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  1. #17670

    CIP money

    Just remember that 80% of the Japanese girls you see will blow the money they make on their male host back home. Literally tens of thousands for a couple of hours.

    10% will blow money on their surgeries first and then make more money for there hosts but at least it's not all of the money. ok maybe some expensive bags or shoes. material shit.

    10% maybe do use it for their family or themselves - good use.

    Before you hate on those male hosts, we actually need them, Without the hosts most girls won't even think to start doing this line of work and won't even come here trying to make more money.

    Some of the most popular girls work 2 months away from home and blow all of the money in a weekend just drinking with the their favorite host.

    The craziness of it all. I love it.

  2. #17669

    I use this for JP trips

    https://yoasobi-heaven.com/en

    It's the most foreigner friendly info I've found.

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteFalconZ  [View Original Post]
    FS is not stated nor can it be spoken of as it's "illegal" in JPN. What you are looking into that offers FS is typically called a soapland, aka brothel and at the shop itself. The other one is health delivery services aka outcall and can vary (some have additional charge for FS or something).

    Another thing is, JPN is not gaijin friendly. A lot of shops turn away foreigners and unless you can speak it, you'll be turned away. The foreigner friendly places are typically in Yoshiwara Tokyo, Tobita Shinichi Osaka. You may or may not get marked up prices as a foreigner as well.

    Or alternatively, turn on your dating app and fuck the local civvies while exploring the place. Get one to even tour you around for the day.

  3. #17668

    Mashiro and CIP negotiation

    Mashiro. Sorry to hear JAVluvr Maybe the true big cock she had an issue. Us mortals with regular cock or pretending we have big cocks are A-ok.

    DoagM.

    1. Be ready to slap on the condom, be ready to take it slow and disrupt her game to get you to commit.

    2. Ask her to suck more, or eat her pussy.

    3. Calm your Cock.

    4. Once she actually thinks about it, good chance she will realize $100 CIP is better than nothing. The other 50% is controlled / brainwashed by the girls or some dude to never lower it.

    5. Be ready to commit to the condom and reset your brain to finish it. Don't negotiate to the point where you are both annoyed because then it's a boner killer.

    I know we joke about charming the girl, that's possible too if you can just have some real banter, sometimes this method works.

    As always, this can be very different girls to girl. Also, as the girl gets more popular, the usual is that they get more firm.
    But we've seen new girls who starts at $200/$300 and we give them the "wtf" look when they mention it. The only thing close to $200 is Japanese condom code names backwards as 002 or 001 for the 2mm or 1mm condoms we're ready to use on them.
    We've also seen girls who starts high but once they realize they are not busy they would lower.

    My experience is usually the earlier you see them the better. Before they wise up or pussy starts to hurts that they starts to ask for more to recoup future less earnings when pussy hurts. Generally speaking. There are girls that also ask for less and less the more time you see them but can be an expensive investment... if she doesn't do it the 2nd time, cut your fucking losses cuz you already sunk another $360 pre-bb cost already.

    more and more girls have $300 in their head and more and more are $200/$200 regardless of inside or outside. I think money is slowing down so jacking up per customer cost is their game even if the girl isn't as hot as before. Teso is getting more business from us for sure than 2 years ago.


    Ask Drunkenkid, he seems to have the "condom is fine but you can get $100 but it's up to you" method down.

    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    I also have a Japan trip coming up. Been doing lots of research. You should check out Tokyo Adult Guide if you haven't already.

    It's illegal to sell vaginal sex there. But everything else, and I do mean everything (selling anal or a blow job for example), is legal. While they can't openly advertise vaginal sex, it of course happens behind closed doors. At Soaplands FS is standard. For delivery health (basically outcall service) FS costs extra.

    As another poster said, the main problem with mongering in Japan is that they are not foreigner friendly. It is my expectation that NYC will be way better for banging Japanese hookers than Japan is, strange as that may seem. Different stores have varying degrees of tolerance for foreigners. In general, you will always pay more if gaijin. Speaking Japanese helps but some places will still deny and price gouge you. I have seen chatter about stores that had gaijin tax as high as 20-30 k yen or about $150, which is paid on top of the normal price to fuck the girl. I've also heard it's extremely hard to BBFS at stores in Japan as a foreigner. Obviously, no barriers or BS like this exist with J-girls in NYC.

    Regarding the girls you mentioned:

    1010 Hikari: No idea. I didn't bang her.

    RS Izumi: Very fun spinner. Youthful and tiny. Slim waist and nice little small lip pussy. She has real good service / attitude and took my dick balls deep with no issues. Super fun time. Wish I fucked her sooner, but I wasted my time and money on Yuffie at DDY (who probably belongs at the CDP and is worth half her DDY rate) at the end of last week and wasn't able to get back into the city for Izumi until a few days ago.

    SE Mashiro: Very similar to Izumi, another youthful spinner. Unfortunately this one was a dud for me since she couldn't take my dick. Weird how one tiny girl (Izumi) had no issues and yet another one quit before we ever really got started. Attitude and service were good but I never got more than half way inside her and had to finish with 69, so it was an L. She must be good for most other mongers though because I've seen lots of positive feedback and apparently she extended her tour in NYC.
    Quote Originally Posted by DoagMeister  [View Original Post]
    As an aside, has anyone here gone to Tokyo and can comment on the service there vs NYC? Planning on going in the fall, but I heard they technically can't offer FS and you have to go kn multiple dates to do so? If that's the case I'd rather fuck J-girls in NYC.

    Hikari 10 Ten. Big flirt as soon as you enter the room and great service as mentioned in other reviews. Only had time for 30 minutes but got MSOG since I first came in like 10 minutes from that tight pussy. A bit on the older side facial-wise, maybe late 20's, still has a sexy spinner body though.

    Izumi RS8 - probably my ATF. So small, young and cute, awesome service. Really makes you feel like she's in love with you.

    Mashiro NYCSE. Love her smooth white skin and small tits. Can see why she's popular. Tons of LFK but no DFK for me. She caught me with the $200 CIP upcharge fuck LOL. Asked me at the wrong time and I didn't want to make things awkward. Ya'll need to share your haggling tips.

  4. #17667
    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteFalconZ  [View Original Post]
    The gaijin tax is definitely there. It happened to me back in 2017 and I didn't know better till I left Japan and did a bit more research. And for BBFS, it's almost impossible and if you are able to get it, its sky high an additional like 20 k-50 k on top. So that's an additional 40 k at minimum (with gaijin tax included) if you're lucky just for 1 girl and BBFS. Imo, not worth it. That's an extra session right there.
    I've had luck at Shibuya where BBFS and bb anal was done. The girl wasn't a looker since they don't put hot girls out for gaijin use. Took long time and a lot of shop hopping to find it many years ago. The girl didn't charge anything extra. Maybe she expected money. ? But she didn't say shit when I prodded and porked both holes so I just thank her and she thanked me and we left the love hotel after I came and showered. Any kind of gaijin you listed above would be nonp-starter for me. Osaka would be better bet these days but I don't think about Tokyo when we have plenty of pussies between Manhattan and Flushing we can fuck already at a lower price overall. (factoring in plane ticket and hotel, and the system fees). I'd only go to a cheap European country now for pussy. Asia too far and not interested in Thailand or other places at this time.


    Was denied countless shops in Tokyo. Only found 2 places that allowed Gaijin, one was shibuya on that lucky anal and bb. One was kabukicho but it was a school girl BJ and I managed to get her to allow me to do some P2P but in the end it was sumata or BJ for the finish. She was on the chubster side but still cute.

    BBBJ clubs in Tokyo was super easy to get in and if that's all you need, that was a cheap thrill but girls are not lookers.

    Osaka is better with the entire street where you can look at every chick in each store. I never actually went cuz it's a hassle to fly to Osaka. no direct flights.

    Yoshiwara just seems expensive from what I read and I have no interest even if they have opened up now, at that price with all the cost added up it's significantly higher than NYC I'd just go Korean for the super hot Korean girls in the $700-1000 range.

  5. #17666
    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteFalconZ  [View Original Post]
    How's Nana in terms of looks in comparison to the photos on the site? The site photos, if even edited, doesn't look enticing / appetizing. How about body wise?
    Fairly certain it's actually her pics but I am not into it regardless. Not my type but service queen apparently.

    Chinese girls usually have highly filtered or completely fake pics. I think the only exception may be Salacia who happens to be back tomorrow. Her pics while filtered it's unmistakably her.

    A few hot ones do have fake pics. Well another girl with fairly accurate pics is Lori PPC. Her insta pics she used for the spa is pretty on-point.

    I rarely see Chinese girls, when I do, it's Dos-1+2+Equis-max (21-23 max) unless you are truly special treat like a real college girl or something like that.

    The other girls, pics are a lot more accurate. I know you didn't ask but Japanese are just awesome at real pics most of the time.

    Izumi R8 is small as fuck. Some pussy hair, not fully all pink but tasty. A few reviews out, all positive on her too. No one really talked much about CIP, says she's 19 but we know she's not really 19 but she is very young so not much off from that. Video friendly too.

    Sachi Kyoto was Layla PPC and another name at R8. Body, did not expect it but she's volleyball player tall (a term we call girls who are around 5'5-5'6+ and not a spinner type with athletic legs). She has clean shaven pussy, very meaty pussy, with some soft pussy lips. More pink but room was very dark so I can't tell the true color. Even the bathroom is hard to tell because lighting is not operating room white. $100 CIP. No video at all though.

  6. #17665
    Quote Originally Posted by PokerBrah  [View Original Post]
    Izumi r8.

    Sachi Kyoto.

    Nana Kyoto.

    Should not take a lot of skills to get there.

    There are others that are more YMMV. Probably NG to mention.

    Holly example is def possible the not sure if she will do it first visit since she's busy often.
    How's Nana in terms of looks in comparison to the photos on the site? The site photos, if even edited, doesn't look enticing / appetizing. How about body wise?

  7. #17664
    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    Speaking Japanese helps but some places will still deny and price gouge you. I have seen chatter about stores that had gaijin tax as high as 20-30 k yen or about $150, which is paid on top of the normal price to fuck the girl. I've also heard it's extremely hard to BBFS at stores in Japan as a foreigner. Obviously, no barriers or BS like this exist with J-girls in NYC.
    The gaijin tax is definitely there. It happened to me back in 2017 and I didn't know better till I left Japan and did a bit more research. And for BBFS, it's almost impossible and if you are able to get it, its sky high an additional like 20 k-50 k on top. So that's an additional 40 k at minimum (with gaijin tax included) if you're lucky just for 1 girl and BBFS. Imo, not worth it. That's an extra session right there.

  8. #17663

    $100 CIPs

    Izumi r8.

    Sachi Kyoto.

    Nana Kyoto.

    Should not take a lot of skills to get there.

    There are others that are more YMMV. Probably NG to mention.

    Holly example is def possible the not sure if she will do it first visit since she's busy often.

  9. #17662
    Quote Originally Posted by DoagMeister  [View Original Post]
    As an aside, has anyone here gone to Tokyo and can comment on the service there vs NYC? Planning on going in the fall, but I heard they technically can't offer FS and you have to go kn multiple dates to do so? If that's the case I'd rather fuck J-girls in NYC.

    Hikari 10 Ten. Big flirt as soon as you enter the room and great service as mentioned in other reviews. Only had time for 30 minutes but got MSOG since I first came in like 10 minutes from that tight pussy. A bit on the older side facial-wise, maybe late 20's, still has a sexy spinner body though.

    Izumi RS8 - probably my ATF. So small, young and cute, awesome service. Really makes you feel like she's in love with you.

    Mashiro NYCSE. Love her smooth white skin and small tits. Can see why she's popular. Tons of LFK but no DFK for me. She caught me with the $200 CIP upcharge fuck LOL. Asked me at the wrong time and I didn't want to make things awkward. Ya'll need to share your haggling tips.
    I also have a Japan trip coming up. Been doing lots of research. You should check out Tokyo Adult Guide if you haven't already.

    It's illegal to sell vaginal sex there. But everything else, and I do mean everything (selling anal or a blow job for example), is legal. While they can't openly advertise vaginal sex, it of course happens behind closed doors. At Soaplands FS is standard. For delivery health (basically outcall service) FS costs extra.

    As another poster said, the main problem with mongering in Japan is that they are not foreigner friendly. It is my expectation that NYC will be way better for banging Japanese hookers than Japan is, strange as that may seem. Different stores have varying degrees of tolerance for foreigners. In general, you will always pay more if gaijin. Speaking Japanese helps but some places will still deny and price gouge you. I have seen chatter about stores that had gaijin tax as high as 20-30 k yen or about $150, which is paid on top of the normal price to fuck the girl. I've also heard it's extremely hard to BBFS at stores in Japan as a foreigner. Obviously, no barriers or BS like this exist with J-girls in NYC.

    Regarding the girls you mentioned:

    1010 Hikari: No idea. I didn't bang her.

    RS Izumi: Very fun spinner. Youthful and tiny. Slim waist and nice little small lip pussy. She has real good service / attitude and took my dick balls deep with no issues. Super fun time. Wish I fucked her sooner, but I wasted my time and money on Yuffie at DDY (who probably belongs at the CDP and is worth half her DDY rate) at the end of last week and wasn't able to get back into the city for Izumi until a few days ago.

    SE Mashiro: Very similar to Izumi, another youthful spinner. Unfortunately this one was a dud for me since she couldn't take my dick. Weird how one tiny girl (Izumi) had no issues and yet another one quit before we ever really got started. Attitude and service were good but I never got more than half way inside her and had to finish with 69, so it was an L. She must be good for most other mongers though because I've seen lots of positive feedback and apparently she extended her tour in NYC.

  10. #17661
    Quote Originally Posted by Ghao13  [View Original Post]
    I'll be in NYC in a couple weeks and found out I'm staying at Long Island City. In prior trips, I've been to several locations around midtown, mostly kgirl and cgirl table shower spas. Might have a car and could drive out to Flushing but seems like there is far more going on in Manhattan vs trying something new. Looking for bb, possibly bb greek, maybe duos, etc.

    Any advice is appreciated.
    So there is a spot in LIC which was linked in the thread previously. They are affiliated with Shisanyi and just opened recently. I haven't been yet. In terms of Manhattan vs. Flushing, I think it really just depends on what you want. For Japanese girls, Manhattan wins. Real pics, reviews, better service and better rates. Plus half the J-girls working in Flushing these days were in Manhattan first. If you are more interested in Chinese girls, than steer the fuck clear of Manhattan and go Flushing. I wouldn't say there's more going on in Manhattan. Flushing might actually have more shops. They are just harder to find and the info isn't out in the open like with Manhattan. Also fewer girls per shop in Flushing. Most of the popular Manhattan stores will have 5-8 girls available, and the stores are walking distance from eachother, so it's more convenient IMO.

    Which Midtown spots did you visit during prior trips?

  11. #17660

    Ditto

    Quote Originally Posted by DoagMeister  [View Original Post]
    Mashiro NYCSE. Love her smooth white skin and small tits. Can see why she's popular. Tons of LFK but no DFK for me. She caught me with the $200 CIP upcharge fuck LOL. Asked me at the wrong time and I didn't want to make things awkward. Ya'll need to share your haggling tips.
    Same. I think I saw someone say they got $100 from her, but she seemed pretty firm when I was there. In the end I paid the $200 so I guess she knew she had all the leverage. Probably saw the lust in my eyes thinking about creaming her pussy. Was so good.

  12. #17659
    Quote Originally Posted by DoagMeister  [View Original Post]
    As an aside, has anyone here gone to Tokyo and can comment on the service there vs NYC? Planning on going in the fall, but I heard they technically can't offer FS and you have to go kn multiple dates to do so? If that's the case I'd rather fuck J-girls in NYC.
    FS is not stated nor can it be spoken of as it's "illegal" in JPN. What you are looking into that offers FS is typically called a soapland, aka brothel and at the shop itself. The other one is health delivery services aka outcall and can vary (some have additional charge for FS or something).

    Another thing is, JPN is not gaijin friendly. A lot of shops turn away foreigners and unless you can speak it, you'll be turned away. The foreigner friendly places are typically in Yoshiwara Tokyo, Tobita Shinichi Osaka. You may or may not get marked up prices as a foreigner as well.

    Or alternatively, turn on your dating app and fuck the local civvies while exploring the place. Get one to even tour you around for the day.

  13. #17658
    Quote Originally Posted by RyanLar  [View Original Post]
    She told me she's from Sapporo but then I just looked it up, it's the capital of Hakkaido Prefecture (state? Re-learning Geography, one J-hooker at a time.

    She can use a new shave to really smooth out that overall pussy would be + to counter her CIP ask.
    Hokkaido is known for its nature, snow, and seafood. I'm trying to find an excuse to go visit. Hokkaido girls are also pretty awesome. My 2024 ATF is from there.

    BTW: Yes, Shana could use a new shave down there. She's here for 2 months, so she better start learning the market price.

  14. #17657

    Movement

    Sachi Kyoto https://misskyoto.com/ - was at ppc. Good looking body.

  15. #17656
    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenKid  [View Original Post]
    She has her price list written out on an envelope. BBFS ($200) and Video ($200) are on offer. YMMV on negotiations.
    $100 level is confirmed possible. YMMV of course and don't be an asshole if she doesn't let you have it for cheap.

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