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  1. #27441

    You got my writing right!

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike85  [View Original Post]
    When he wrote that statement you quoted, I read it as him referring to his view of buttress lane. If it was a generalization, I agree about the lack of perfume (I don't want their perfume on me), their breath is often bad and their clothes may smell if they cooked a meal. They have plenty of mouthwash, often times in a disgustingly dirty bottle.
    I wrote about the providers of Butress Lane. He's talking about generalizing.

    If he replies to my comment, he reply with more about Butress Lane. You understood what I wrote!

  2. #27440

    It's up to the girls

    Quote Originally Posted by FearlessFlash  [View Original Post]
    Have you noticed this phrase popping up with AMPs and them extending their hours? I've had it happen twice now. Once in Maryland (R&S) and 5 star massage.

    I'm used to the usual 10-10 but now its 9 a-midnight. I'm not complaining, I just find it odd.
    It is all up to the girls. I know of a couple places where they are officially open 10 am to 10 pm but I've seen the phone, the text messages, and I've asked before about it. The girl (s) have said they will take customers early if they are up and the will continue to take customers till they go to sleep. Most of the girls live and sleep in these places, almost like slaves, can't go anywhere, and if they are bored and awake will take customers till 2 or 3 in the morning.

  3. #27439

    FHOH Sandra

    Had a good session with her earlier in the week. She asked how I found her and let her know I RTFF and she's aware of what's said LOL. Promised I wouldn't expose too much of the detail since she didn't particularly enjoy the reads supposedly. For intel purposes, most things I've read on her is true. Found her to be a little more pretty than some have professed. A little less open as some made it seem. Overall, she was sweet but a talker. Most likely not a repeat on my end but it's just cause I didn't feel it click. Nothing about her service was terrible. Just not the fireworks I was looking for.

    Also it is noteworthy to say I usually just go to Korean establishments. This was a one off to see what it was like. I'm sure others mileage may be better due to preference.

  4. #27438
    Quote Originally Posted by FearlessFlash  [View Original Post]
    Have you noticed this phrase popping up with AMPs and them extending their hours? I've had it happen twice now. Once in Maryland (R&S) and 5 star massage.

    I'm used to the usual 10-10 but now its 9 a-midnight. I'm not complaining, I just find it odd.
    This is great! Paid punani should be open 24 hrs LOL.

    Especially in big cities where it's still hustle bustle, it would make sense to open 24 hrs.

    I don't find it odd, I think it's good business idea as well as for customers.

  5. #27437
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1934

    The fact that ACS & LCS rotate providers doesn't necessarily = trafficking

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPoppa2308  [View Original Post]
    This place has been talked about before on here but they have several locations and the girls tend to rotate what seems like weekly. Makes me think it's a trafficking operation. I've given them a few tries but after the last time I swore to never go back. I don't have names and the ads are gone but my experiences were:

    Fairfax. Been twice. It's an office space with a ton of other offices on the same floor. The first time was the actual girl in the photos, a very hot Dominican with long black hair and fat ass. Paid 200 for hh with a light "massage" if you can call it that and then FS in a couple positions. The second time was a complete bait and switch from the posted photos so I just made an excuse to go to the my car again and left.

    Mclean. Been twice. A run down office building with the door entrance right next to some stairs in the emergency exit stairwell. Very weird. First time I got ghosted. Showed up and they kept saying the girl is almost there but never showed up so after half hour I left. Second time, they tried to bait and switch me again but since this one has a bigger office space, there were two rooms. I was told sorry but the girl I wanted was busy so they thought I would like the other one. I did not so I said I would wait. I waited in the little reception area that was dark until the other dude left. The girl I wanted to see was the actual one in the pics, a thick Colombian. She looked so bored and most likely overworked so I didn't even bother with asking for absolutely any extras. I paid 70 for a hh body rub, put on my pants and left. She made little to no effort to talk or engage so I just let her rub me for 30 minutes and I was out of there.

    All in all it's def hit or miss but with more misses than hits, I'm not bothering again with this outfit.
    For any crapshoot operation, rotation is a feature, not a bug. As is the use of multiple locations. If the women are willing participants, without coercion or intimidation, then the trafficking definition isn't applicable. LE and their media accomplices are quick to slap that label on almost any operation that features foreign-born women, which is total BS.

    That being said, ACS outfits have a reputation of, at the very least, providing basic services and not hugely trying to upsell the client. LCS places have had many more complaints (IME) and a monger is really rolling the dice when visiting without the benefit of prior positive reviews.

    There's a natural tendency to think that LCS places are like ACS places, just with a different nationality. I would argue that there are not only differences in the business model but also in their mentality when it comes to serving clients. Personally, I'm willing to visit an ACS without prior reviews, because the downsides are limited. If an unattractive woman opens the door, I walk away if a more attractive option isn't available. I only book a hh session, because I know I can usually extend easily if the girl turns out to be a gem. And there hasn't been single visit in which a nut failed to be achieved. With LCS places, the fact that an attractive woman opens the door guarantees nothing. Crap service or huge upsells happen more often than not. And getting a nut may or may not happen, even after the client shells out a lot of clams! FWIW, I won't see a Latina provider (independent or other) without a number of positive reports. There are just too many potential downsides.

  6. #27436

    Beware

    This place has been talked about before on here but they have several locations and the girls tend to rotate what seems like weekly. Makes me think it's a trafficking operation. I've given them a few tries but after the last time I swore to never go back. I don't have names and the ads are gone but my experiences were:

    Fairfax. Been twice. It's an office space with a ton of other offices on the same floor. The first time was the actual girl in the photos, a very hot Dominican with long black hair and fat ass. Paid 200 for hh with a light "massage" if you can call it that and then FS in a couple positions. The second time was a complete bait and switch from the posted photos so I just made an excuse to go to the my car again and left.

    Mclean. Been twice. A run down office building with the door entrance right next to some stairs in the emergency exit stairwell. Very weird. First time I got ghosted. Showed up and they kept saying the girl is almost there but never showed up so after half hour I left. Second time, they tried to bait and switch me again but since this one has a bigger office space, there were two rooms. I was told sorry but the girl I wanted was busy so they thought I would like the other one. I did not so I said I would wait. I waited in the little reception area that was dark until the other dude left. The girl I wanted to see was the actual one in the pics, a thick Colombian. She looked so bored and most likely overworked so I didn't even bother with asking for absolutely any extras. I paid 70 for a hh body rub, put on my pants and left. She made little to no effort to talk or engage so I just let her rub me for 30 minutes and I was out of there.

    All in all it's def hit or miss but with more misses than hits, I'm not bothering again with this outfit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bossanova86  [View Original Post]
    https://www.rubrankings.com/united-s...ulb-56093.html

    I seen so many of these ads and they all run similar ones with different girls. Simple text setup, nothing too strange or out of the ordinary. This is in an apartment area, in a not so savory place. The girl had to manually come down and unlock the door to let me in, since they can't buzz people in from the outside, so I got to see the girl I was intending on booking. She was way prettier in person than in the pictures in the ad. The apartment is completely empty apart from two raggedy bunk beds. The massage was non-existent, just light touching with very little roaming, probably a half assed sensual massage at best. The damage is more expensive than what they quote in the ad and in text messages with the pimp/mamasan and there is no service after on the flip. The upsell for services after is also horrendously expensive, so I left with nothing and I was much better for it to be honest. On the way out I saw 3 other girls and one of them looked familiar from the ads, but for the life of me I can't find that ad. This is one of those places that I believe to me a bit seedy, after the session was done, on the way out the bunk beds were fully occupied with 3 other latina ladies who were just on their phones. I wouldn't go to this one again and I doubt I'll explore the latinas any further.

  7. #27435

    Under new management

    Have you noticed this phrase popping up with AMPs and them extending their hours? I've had it happen twice now. Once in Maryland (R&S) and 5 star massage.

    I'm used to the usual 10-10 but now its 9 a-midnight. I'm not complaining, I just find it odd.

  8. #27434

    Nova latinas

    https://www.rubrankings.com/united-s...ulb-56093.html

    I seen so many of these ads and they all run similar ones with different girls. Simple text setup, nothing too strange or out of the ordinary. This is in an apartment area, in a not so savory place. The girl had to manually come down and unlock the door to let me in, since they can't buzz people in from the outside, so I got to see the girl I was intending on booking. She was way prettier in person than in the pictures in the ad. The apartment is completely empty apart from two raggedy bunk beds. The massage was non-existent, just light touching with very little roaming, probably a half assed sensual massage at best. The damage is more expensive than what they quote in the ad and in text messages with the pimp/mamasan and there is no service after on the flip. The upsell for services after is also horrendously expensive, so I left with nothing and I was much better for it to be honest. On the way out I saw 3 other girls and one of them looked familiar from the ads, but for the life of me I can't find that ad. This is one of those places that I believe to me a bit seedy, after the session was done, on the way out the bunk beds were fully occupied with 3 other latina ladies who were just on their phones. I wouldn't go to this one again and I doubt I'll explore the latinas any further.

  9. #27433

    Cecelia

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcsylv  [View Original Post]
    A while back someone had mentioned Cecilia was back at FHOH. I DMed them but they didn't respond. Can anyone confirm or deny?
    That is correct. Call them and I believe she works most days.

  10. #27432

    Cecilia FHOH

    A while back someone had mentioned Cecilia was back at FHOH. I DMed them but they didn't respond. Can anyone confirm or deny?

  11. #27431

    Jamie is gone for now

    Quote Originally Posted by FriendlyTravel  [View Original Post]
    Can you tell me which Asian spa you went to in Tysons? I would like to visit Jaime.
    It's Asian gem, an agency. But Jamie is gone for now. She has toured here early in the year. She might come back later.

  12. #27430

    Mia

    It's been a while since I posted, I have not been very active in a while. But today, I found myself out in the Sterling area and had a bit of in itch. I browsed some of the sites for ads in the Sterling / Herndon / Reston area and found this Latina ad.

    https://www.rubrankings.com/united-s...ulb-45184.html (some of you may have already posted about this, but like I said I have not been active lately).

    The ladies in the ad looked pretty nice and I thought there was a decent chance they were real since it kind of looks like a spa entrance. I did not call ahead for an appt, I figured I would just take my chances.

    When I pulled into the parking lot, I saw the sign above the door that said, "Haydee's Massge". I said to myself "damn", I remember a bunch of reviews about this place when they were in Herndon, and none of them were good. I kind of remember hearing that they had moved to Sterling, but I had no idea that this was the place. But I figured I am here, let's check it out.

    I go in the entrance (it's not locked most AMPs), there is a small lobby, kind of like For Him Or Her. There is a Latina girl at the reception desk (but not either of the girls in the photo). She asks if I had an appointment, I said "I did not". She said she was available. She was not horrible looking but not really my type, but I was also really curious about the girls in the Photo. I show her the ad on my phone and ask if either of them is available. To somewhat of a surprise she says, "they both are". She points to the ad and says, "that's Mia", "that one is Paula". I said, "I'll try Mia". She takes my house fee of $100 for the hour and leads me to the room.

    I get undressed and lay face down, and A minute or 2 later Mia enters the room. It's dark, and or course I am face down so I can't really get a good look too see if it is really the girl in the pic. She starts the massage, and it's not the best, but it certainly is not the worst either, and I really did not expect much better. After about 20 minutes of the so-so massage, she has me flip. She starts to massage my front side, and now that I have a better look it actually is the girl in the photo. I realize that I know this girl, I say, "you look very familiar". It takes me about 10 seconds to realize that this is the Mia that used to be at For Him or Her. I ask her if she used to work there. She says, "yes, for about a week". By the way, her English is not great, but it's not bad either. It's good enough to communicate with each other. I said, "I remember you". She stares at me for a few seconds, and says, "I remember you too". I thought she was just saying that, but she says, you were my first massage ever when I started there". Which is the exact same thing she told me back then too. So maybe she really did remember. She told me back then that it was the first time she ever worked at a massage place. I asked her, "Why she left there?' She said that she hated it, and that Sandra was not a nice lady to work for. I've actually heard that before from 2 others. One that still works there and one that left, and I ran into her at another place. He session I had with Mia at FHOH was absolutely incredible and one of the best I ever had. This one today may have been even better, and I've been doing this a long time (back when you found ads in the sports section of the Post).

    I'm not going to go into details, because I told her I wouldn't, but this girl is incredible, a bit of a freak, but in a good way. I remember several post about her after she left FHOH if anyone had known where she went to. If any of you saw her, I'm sure you will remember her. I surely will go see her again. It's probably a good thing I am not in sterling more often because I'd go all the time.

  13. #27429
    Quote Originally Posted by FrigginBeast  [View Original Post]
    Maybe a new ATF for me. Jamie is unlike most other Asians I've seen. She's curvy in a proportional way, with a thick booty and natural DDs on top, and reasonably tall at 5'6" or 5'7". Extremely easy to get along with, there was a mutual attraction and sense of fun when we met. Jamie is a good kisser and we started by making out in the bedroom before hopping in the shower. Lots of standing body rubs and teasing of junior with a preview BBBJ. Her boobs are amazing and she enjoys having them played with, though her nipples are sensitive so need to be a bit softer when playing there.

    After the shower we went to the bed and she started a much more thorough and sloppy BBBJ, including some rimming while she jerked me off. Lots of spit and ball licking. Eventually Jamie got on top and started p2 p while making out again. She slipped on a cover and started riding me while I continued playing with her boobs and nipples. Switched to mish and I got in some DATY until she pulled me back up and inside her. We switched over to doggy and then into prone bone where she really excelled, fucking back and moving her hips in a really interesting way. Finally she moved back to BBBJ until I finished in her mouth.

    Took a shower to clean up and get dressed. Amazing energy through out the session and we got along really well. Strongly recommend. $350 for the hour.
    Can you tell me which Asian spa you went to in Tysons? I would like to visit Jaime.

  14. #27428

    What a gentleman!

    Quote Originally Posted by PilotAviator  [View Original Post]
    Nice to very nice facility in excellent condition. The treatment rooms are surprisingly spacious (albeit the TS room is a bit small).

    Very nice staff (at least to me) -- two very fit, very attractive ladies (IMO).

    My MT provided a very good TS, massage and massage experience.

    Received my entire hour (not rushed / not shorted time).

    This is a place that wants you to be a repeat client. And I intend to repeat.

    Always be nice to the ladies.

    PA.
    PA, the reason you had such a good experience is because Nicole is a JOY to be with. She is also a lady that prefers Gentleman.

    Gentleman always do better with the ladies.

    PJ.

  15. #27427

    Let's give the Chinese gals a break!

    Quote Originally Posted by TMvoice8989  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for taking the time to comment on my review.

    I didn't write my reviews based on a few experiences, I wrote them based on more than 20 years of experience, and of course I respect your opinion, but the reason I post less reviews is because I don't write them regularly like other review ad agencies, sometimes I get busy and forget to write reviews or blah blah blah. Etc,.

    There are a lot of reviews, especially from ad agencies, that are almost fake. Also, in my opinion, if a user is supposed to write a review of a providers that works on their store, but an ad agency hired by a competitor posts a bad review of AMP, that's just wrong and mean. Providers don't stay in one place for long, and they use different names when they move to another place (especially the providers who don't do a good job, or who were fired by the owner because they complained a lot.). I don't understand it, but to respect their humanity, I won't comment further.

    I have a lot of experience and data (owners, providers, mms) in Virginia, Maryland, Washington DC and other states.

    In fact, Chinese-owned spas and massage parlors don't have table showers because of strict building codes, so Chinese owners replace them with standing showers or body shampoos.





    If you want a really good massage, go to a masseuse with an MBL or national license. Go to a place that only offers massages and no other services.

    Most guys prefer services other than massage, so I used to go to a place that offered services other than massage.

    I'll talk more about this in the next review. Stay safe!
    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    If your generalizations were simply about the lack of table showers, I wouldn't have posted a response. Here is an example of a generalization you made about Chinese MP women that I found unwarranted and objectionable:

    "They don't use mouse (SIC) wash or clean, and they don't use perfume. Their heads and clothes smell like food. It's disgusting, especially the bad breath".

    I've also had decades of mongering experience, including many delightful visits to Chinese MPs with excellent massage and table showers. If I have a bad experience at one, I put the blame on that specific place, I don't generalize about all Chinese MPs, or all Chinese masseuses.

    What seems rather odd is that, if you really think they're so bad, why would you ever visit them at all? Here's an analogy: If you've visited restaurants for 20+ years and found that you really dislike seafood restaurants, after a few visits you'd almost certainly avoid them entirely. Therefore, other than for those initial visits, one would expect that all your restaurant reviews would be for non-seafood places, right? So it's hard to understand why you're still visiting and reviewing the Chinese AMPs you say you don't like.
    Two years ago, I posted a review regarding my elusive search for a Chinese Princes. In that review I stated many of the same concerns that "TM" mentioned. I visited a dozen C-AMPs that year on a quest for this mythical creature. In the end I commented that the Chinese massage parlors were dirty; that the spas had excessive deferred maintenance; that the providers had poor hygiene and bad breath; that the gals were old, fat and ugly and could not speak any English. They were nothing like their Korean counterpart, greeting you at the door in summer dress all dolled up and fancy free. They're refreshing table showers were just what you needed to get you in the mood unlike the bare bones of what you received from the Chinese. I think many of us can agree with this generalization but that's exactly what it is, a generalization, and I too was guilty.

    Now based on all your complaining, (remember that the owners of these fine establishments read our reviews) and given the immigration explosion around the USA, "including and especially from China "we know have an incredible influx of young Chinese gals all congregating in Flushing and slowly filtering down south.

    Gentleman, I have met several very pretty and sexy Chinese gals, sensual as you can get. Things are changing, and I predict that soon the Chinese will take over, (I'm referring to the gals not their govt). These young women, mostly, well under the age of 40 are all around us. Many of the spas advertise for help and there is a big response from the young ladies waiting in New York.

    Now the Koreans on the other hand, as I see it immigrated to the states 10 -30 years ago, they are all getting older. Correct me if I am wrong but I haven't seen a 35-year-old Korean lately; they are all 55 and counting. Nothing wrong with 55, don't get me wrong!!

    Let's discuss hygiene for a moment: At a Korean spa you get a nice scrubbing. The gal is at easy rolling around with you because she just hosed out your orifice. But-how clean is the provider? Unless you get her on her first appointment the chances of her showering between clients are rare (My observation). Even when I was keeping company with Linda, that jewel of a lady would simple wipe herself down with a hot hand towel and go on to the next monger. So how clean are they? I just had a great romantic session with a new young Chinese gal, after we finished, we showered together. They have showers. Ask to shower together before your session for goodness' sake!! (More on this gal in a coming review).

    Let's keep an open mind. I love and prefer Chinese woman especial the ones with the long black hair, slender bodies and the soft and juicy, tender.. Well-let's say personal parts. (I'm into Daty as some may know).

    FYI I just met two gorgeous gals at two different C-AMPs this week. Soon to be reviewed.

    To conclude: Stop complaining, open your eyes, explore and RTFF. It's all out there.

    Regards.

    PJ.

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