Drama 101 in Cleveland

[OldBrausa]

Amber is real delivers as promised.

I am skeptical of this first time post. I had something set up with Amber last night, then cross checked against the Forum to make sure no bad reports, but unfortunately found several, and told Amber I was canceling because of Forum posts saying she grab and dashes or has dudes interrupting. Today, a first time poster vouches for her. Food for thought.

[CarGuyF599]

Silly me--I thought the whole purpose of this forum was to provide actual information, based upon actual experience, so that we can all make informed decisions. You can just spout out an opinion based on nothing? I'm actually very happy that there are some of you who think from just looking at her that this provider isn't worth her rate because that means it's much more likely that I will be able to schedule the next time that I go see her. Your loss, my gain. I've seen her almost every month for the past several years and I will keep on going back again and again. Without question, one of the best--if not the best--provider I have ever seen, and always worth every penny.

Right? You get what you pay for IMO.

The Ohio, Michigan, Indiana forums are nothing but ripoffs, robs, dr*gs, dead fish, and poor hygiene. Yet a post about a sweetheart SP that is none of those things but costs more gets ripped to shreds.

My guess is if you did the math you'd find that after all the money wasted on cheap bad experiences before you find a cheap good one it would have been cheaper to just pay extra for the next level up and save the hassle and potential dangerous situation. YMMV.

[Cheech1]

I would recommend Rick Perez in Lake county, if he hasn't retired, or Paris and Paris in Cleveland, they have offices downtown. I know John Paris used to rep for a Madam.

Cheech.

[Nobody3141]

I have a few great attorneys to recommend to you guys if ever needed as well

C92.

I'd like to get the names of these attorneys, but I tried to PM you and your account isn't accepting incoming messages. This world of paranoia sucks for everybody.

[Nobody3141]

I have a few great attorneys to recommend to you guys if ever needed as well

C92.

I'd like to get the names of these attorneys, but I tried to PM you and your account isn't accepting incoming messages. This world of paranoia sucks for everybody.

[LongPiping]

Silly me--I thought the whole purpose of this forum was to provide actual information, based upon actual experience, so that we can all make informed decisions. You can just spout out an opinion based on nothing? I'm actually very happy that there are some of you who think from just looking at her that this provider isn't worth her rate because that means it's much more likely that I will be able to schedule the next time that I go see her. Your loss, my gain. I've seen her almost every month for the past several years and I will keep on going back again and again. Without question, one of the best--if not the best--provider I have ever seen, and always worth every penny.

Go marry her and quit the game then.

[JohnnyMe]

Silly me--I thought the whole purpose of this forum was to provide actual information, based upon actual experience, so that we can all make informed decisions. You can just spout out an opinion based on nothing? I'm actually very happy that there are some of you who think from just looking at her that this provider isn't worth her rate because that means it's much more likely that I will be able to schedule the next time that I go see her. Your loss, my gain. I've seen her almost every month for the past several years and I will keep on going back again and again. Without question, one of the best--if not the best--provider I have ever seen, and always worth every penny.

[BuckeyeGuy2]

Chunks:

Tried to PM you but your account is blocked. Care to share your attorneys names? Not looking for trouble but would like to have a good attorney name in my contacts list just in case trouble ever finds me.

BG2.

I have a few great attorneys to recommend to you guys if ever needed as well. Great attorney I know in Cleveland. Of course, if I ever was unfortunate enough I would be asking for him right away, but its like I can only imagine how these guys who talk their interrogations go. How many situations do you guys know where you've gotten there, and left because you werent into the woman? Like, you can't control my brain and tell me that I intended to bang a woman. Only I know that. Lets say I got there and she wasnt my type, clearly I can legally leave without any offense being committed, because nothing illegal about adults meeting adults and theres nothing illegal about me being in a hotel room. Its pretty logical and straightforward to me. The fact that someone hasnt sued especially with the summit county stories I hear is unbelievable. Their stings last year had a 0 percent conviction rate on original charges, and less then 50 percent they were able to get reduced charges out of. 65 percent had their case dismissed. So while I believe the cases will be tried, there is no way they are holding up and the court dockets show this. So I'm not sure if you can still sue for wrongful arrest in that scenario.

More advice, get a checking account and leave very small amounts of money in it. I do checking with a certain bank, and savings with another bank that I refuse to do online banking with, so I have to physically go to the bank to get money out and it cannot be accessed through the internet. I bet you they are invading these dudes phones and checking account balances and using the debit card tied to it evidence as well, that they "could have gone to the atm" or something. "could" have, again, attempted brain control by LEO. Couple that with a burner wallet and disable the loan function on all credit cards, or just leave your credit cards at home with my whole burner wallet idea. I'm sure they could manufacture something out of debit/credit cards as well. Total invasion of privacy, but as you can see, they are doing it. I bet you in the future they can withdraw that money and seize it too, or max out your credit card by taking out a loan and say that you intended to exchange it, again, totally illegal for the cops to do that, but Yost gonna Yost.

C92.

[Tykhasosna]

Be really effing careful what you communicate

You'll never be careful enough.

You're not as smart as you think, nor will you always recognize stings.

Your coming doom is the hoosegow, sooner than later.

[Tykhasosna]

Another thing for LEO to take into consideration

LEO's looking for a good deal on a chicken sandwich.

That's where you come in.

[Chunks92]

I was not positive but now I'm almost 100 percent positive that a very large operation is in effect. I drove down 77 to bang my ex yesterday evening and saw a low flying aircraft which I believe to be an unmanned drone or possible surveillance unit circling the general sting area in Ak on Arlington, AKA how they track the perps so once they enter the court jurisdiction they potentially are dead meat even if they turn back depending on the offense they are accused of and if their log is incriminating. Thats how they got the guy 23 miles north of Akron in the 4/24/21 "multi county" good guy sting, tracking and drone footage. I'm convinced of it after what I just saw. I suspect stingrays. Soon as the chat log is enough to get you, they have enough to do what they are doing and use the stingray or other similar tool. He was arrested in the middle of brecksville road with a phantom address not even tied to any business, not at the Delia house like every other guy in that sting. My speculation is he was cagey, so soon as he entered the Akron court jurisdiction they had him tracked and swarmed him when he tried to turn back/entered jurisdiction. the phantom address is literally right on the summit side of the summit/cuyahoga line. Probable that he used his real phone, so only way out at that point would have been to destroy his cell phone or throw it down a sewer drain or something like that before the swarming occurred, which he probably never saw coming. Again all speculation, but what i do know is despite that sting having only a 20 percent success rate for them, his was a case that stuck, he took a plea bargain to a 3rd degree misdemeanor. All signs point to that Yosts 2022 statewide sting is live.

C92.

https://www.cleveland19.com/2022/08/...-general-says/

56 arrested, 35 good guys, 21 bad guys.

[Chunks92]

The foregoing points are all correct. And I would like to add 1 thing. If you do find yourself arrested with no evidence that could stand up in court, you have to sue for violations of your constitutional right of association. I'm serious. If one of us can win a lawsuit, as hard as it may be, it would be a big step forward to stop this bullshit.

Cheech.

I have a few great attorneys to recommend to you guys if ever needed as well. Great attorney I know in Cleveland. Of course, if I ever was unfortunate enough I would be asking for him right away, but its like I can only imagine how these guys who talk their interrogations go. How many situations do you guys know where you've gotten there, and left because you werent into the woman? Like, you can't control my brain and tell me that I intended to bang a woman. Only I know that. Lets say I got there and she wasnt my type, clearly I can legally leave without any offense being committed, because nothing illegal about adults meeting adults and theres nothing illegal about me being in a hotel room. Its pretty logical and straightforward to me. The fact that someone hasnt sued especially with the summit county stories I hear is unbelievable. Their stings last year had a 0 percent conviction rate on original charges, and less then 50 percent they were able to get reduced charges out of. 65 percent had their case dismissed. So while I believe the cases will be tried, there is no way they are holding up and the court dockets show this. So I'm not sure if you can still sue for wrongful arrest in that scenario.

More advice, get a checking account and leave very small amounts of money in it. I do checking with a certain bank, and savings with another bank that I refuse to do online banking with, so I have to physically go to the bank to get money out and it cannot be accessed through the internet. I bet you they are invading these dudes phones and checking account balances and using the debit card tied to it evidence as well, that they "could have gone to the atm" or something. "could" have, again, attempted brain control by LEO. Couple that with a burner wallet and disable the loan function on all credit cards, or just leave your credit cards at home with my whole burner wallet idea. I'm sure they could manufacture something out of debit/credit cards as well. Total invasion of privacy, but as you can see, they are doing it. I bet you in the future they can withdraw that money and seize it too, or max out your credit card by taking out a loan and say that you intended to exchange it, again, totally illegal for the cops to do that, but Yost gonna Yost.

C92.

[Cheech1]

The foregoing points are all correct. And I would like to add 1 thing. If you do find yourself arrested with no evidence that could stand up in court, you have to sue for violations of your constitutional right of association. I'm serious. If one of us can win a lawsuit, as hard as it may be, it would be a big step forward to stop this bullshit.

Cheech.

[PissedOffLaxD]

OK, so the important things here are to remember to leave no evidence. Read the legal strategies thread here. Learn what the law is and what exactly is evidence. Learn to be cryptic in your conversations with available women, especially in text. Especially in text. Remember that every move you make with a cellphone in your hand is tracked. Every electronic transaction you make is tracked.

Make it a habit to never make incriminating statements, you're just going out for drinks or dinner.

And the top thing to remember is to not cave to the pigs. The primary evidence is the exchange of money or the promise of money. Even implying something of value in exchange for sex can get a conviction. So, watch your 6.

Cheech.

A former member gave me a lot of shit for stating this; I knew I was right then, I know I'm right now. Be really effing careful what you communicate, how you communicate it and from what device and phone number, burner or not.

[Chunks92]

Let me give you the real truth first hand.

It doesn't matter what you say or do. You could even just be an innocent bystander on the wrong floor of a random hotel. LEO can and WILL charge you and let the court system sort it out.

PLUS, regardless of the facts or the evidence, the prosecutor WILL try the case, at least in Summit county I can say that without a doubt.

So unless you're willing to cough up $10,000 or more in attorney fees to prove your innocence, it doesn't really matter what you say.

That is why I really am disgusted at the self-righteous idiotic sheep that blast the guys in the good guy stings on social media comments. You will see that this week, get ready for it. Do I make fun of some of them? Yes, because I know the ads they are falling for and its like good Christ what a dumbass the ad was obviously fake, or good Christ what idiot brings meth to a person they dont know. But them? They don't know our hobby from Adam and they dont realize that THEY have a higher chance of ending up in a sting then guys who have been balls deep in pussy like us for a decade or longer. We know the signs of what fake ads to look for and places to avoid. Honestly this hobby has changed where I go, the way I live my life in general for the better, you have to be careful everywhere you go or risk being wrongfully accused of anything. Just like Stanley in the movie Holes when the shoes fell from the bridge, he kept them, and he was wrongfully accused of theft.

Another thing for LEO to take into consideration: If you guys are charging innocent people who you know are innocent, you are INCENTIVIZING more solicitation crime. If i know you can just make something up and it might stick, and that i could go through huge headaches because you feel like making things up on the innocent, why wouldnt i live my life to the fullest and go out and bang more broads? if you can charge at any time for a woman we didnt intend to bang, guess what? we should go out and bang women. Learn some integrity, stop the false charges. Make us proud to have you as our police again.

C92.