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  1. #35296
    Quote Originally Posted by Pineapples1  [View Original Post]
    Just don't try to get a BJ from any of the new girls. They scammed me last time I went and I think MMS / PPS is in on it. Wanted 100 for a BJ, made me pay first, and she licked it twice and that was it.
    The way it used to be, late 90's / early 2000's, mostly korean massage parlors. I had been to a number of them. I don't recall any of them asking for money up front. Often, no mention of anything more than HJ / BJ / FS. Most didn't DFK, but some did for sure.

    1st started out, later 90's, 2nd girl I had at Tokyo Accupressure, Korean girl, stunning looking, young and I was young, LOL. Got done, handed her 5 twenties, she put 4 in her bra and handed one back. Told me, 80 was the rate.

    I mostly paid 100 after that time. It went to $120. Still, mostly no DFK, although there were some gems that would.

    Almost always, no talk of money, never had one ask for more, although I always paid what I thought was going rate.

    Today, seems like, most shops are Chinese run with Chinese ladies. Chinese seem to always ask for the amount and cash upfront. Nature / Believe and others are exactly that way. Take the money, put it away, come back with the kit.

    So far, that has worked out well with no disappointments.

    I think, Chinese probably have been burned by shoplifters and or short changers. Rotten customers have ruined it for us. That is how it goes, sometimes.

  2. #35295
    Quote Originally Posted by QuikTurtle69  [View Original Post]
    Tried setting up an appointment at Green Sign, only to be told that they're closed due to trying to renew their license. Is this the case with everybody else? Does anyone have any worthwhile alternatives?
    According to City of Orange business license records, their license runs from 2/1/2023 - 1/31/2024. * Actually just expired, yesterday. So, yeah, they probably are legimately trying to renew.

  3. #35294
    Quote Originally Posted by RBFSyndrome  [View Original Post]
    Is there any place like below?

    -reasonable cost / tip.

    -non-greedy ladies.

    -Asian 20-40's.

    -natural Ds (could swing Cs).

    -good technique, tease and finish (HE only).

    -not filthy.

    Have a couple places that fit 90% of these needs but ladies just get greedy eventually and it's not the same anymore.

    And please no bamboo or sh. Pretty crazy how much some of you guys tip tbh.
    Check out Massage 2018 on 921X Bolsa #215. Much younger the BW, and you can get a nekkid lady massage. Always ask to see the lineup. 20's thru 40's ladies.

    Good luck and happy!

  4. #35293

    Always Congenial and Polite but.

    Quote Originally Posted by QuikTurtle69  [View Original Post]
    In my experience, the standard procedure is negotiate, they wait while you grab the money and hand it over, then proceed to whatever was agreed. Do you just insist with them on paying after until they acquiesce instead of "No honey, money now" etc? Obviously that favors the client but has not been an option from what I've gathered.
    If they are insistent on upfront donation, I just say, "OK just do a massage only. " If they remain insistent, I get up, get dressed and walk out. Again, always polite and nice about it. Then I don't return there as there are WAY too many other good options. I’ll ask for my house fee back and if they give it great. If they don’t, my loss. Moving on.

  5. #35292

    Unnatural

    Tried setting up an appointment at Green Sign, only to be told that they're closed due to trying to renew their license. Is this the case with everybody else? Does anyone have any worthwhile alternatives?

  6. #35291

    No Nature

    Did nature get shutdown again? Closed.

  7. #35290

    How would this play out?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrPlumber  [View Original Post]
    It's a tough lesson to learn
    But I encourage you all. Never tip for services first. It's a one-way ticket to Disappointment Ville.
    In my experience, the standard procedure is negotiate, they wait while you grab the money and hand it over, then proceed to whatever was agreed. Do you just insist with them on paying after until they acquiesce instead of "No honey, money now" etc? Obviously that favors the client but has not been an option from what I've gathered.

  8. #35289

    Never Pay First

    Quote Originally Posted by Pineapples1  [View Original Post]
    Just don't try to get a BJ from any of the new girls. They scammed me last time I went and I think MMS / PPS is in on it. Wanted 100 for a BJ, made me pay first, and she licked it twice and that was it.
    It's a tough lesson to learn and I've made this mistake plenty of times early in my P4P experiences. Now just the thought gives me the dry heeves and I spontaneously cringe. That said, I've had a few of BW's new girls offer a slurp on the fully-engorged male meat stick. When the hand signals start spelling out digits higher than ciento I just giggle, smile and say, "No thank you. For that much we boom boom." If I'm really interested, and few of BWs girls get me THAT interested in their oral skills, I'll entertain the notion and suggest a different number of roses. I don't waste time with too much back and forth though. Not worth it. But I encourage you all. Never tip for services first. It's a one-way ticket to Disappointment Ville.

  9. #35288

    Beej

    Quote Originally Posted by Pineapples1  [View Original Post]
    Just don't try to get a BJ from any of the new girls. They scammed me last time I went and I think MMS / PPS is in on it. Wanted 100 for a BJ, made me pay first, and she licked it twice and that was it.
    That's a bit outlandish, I haven't been offered a beej, I'd definitely take it for 80 but 100 is quite steep when you can get cfs CBJ for 130 at most places.

  10. #35287
    Quote Originally Posted by MassageTourist  [View Original Post]
    I'm also curious. Is Anna back?
    Yes, Anna is back. Same routine, with the same limits as before.

  11. #35286
    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco  [View Original Post]
    Ya I know you he place Charlie and Andie are my regulars.

    Haven't been in a few months. Too busy. Just checking any new intel.
    Just don't try to get a BJ from any of the new girls. They scammed me last time I went and I think MMS / PPS is in on it. Wanted 100 for a BJ, made me pay first, and she licked it twice and that was it.

  12. #35285
    Quote Originally Posted by Bronco  [View Original Post]
    Ya I know you he place Charlie and Andie are my regulars.

    Haven't been in a few months. Too busy. Just checking any new intel.
    I'm also curious. Is Anna back?

  13. #35284

    Good tease and he?

    Is there any place like below?

    -reasonable cost / tip.

    -non-greedy ladies.

    -Asian 20-40's.

    -natural Ds (could swing Cs).

    -good technique, tease and finish (HE only).

    -not filthy.

    Have a couple places that fit 90% of these needs but ladies just get greedy eventually and it's not the same anymore.

    And please no bamboo or sh. Pretty crazy how much some of you guys tip tbh.

  14. #35283
    Quote Originally Posted by HoDownMan2  [View Original Post]
    Still your normal jack shack but with better than average massage and awesome tease. Try Charlie or CC.
    Ya I know you he place Charlie and Andie are my regulars.

    Haven't been in a few months. Too busy. Just checking any new intel.

  15. #35282

    Elsa encounter. Nature-ally

    Just had a more-than-special reunion with Elsa at Nature. I had been sidetracked there with Tiffany, even after Elsa was back in the mix, but after play-scolding me for not seeing her sooner, Elsa gave me multiple reasons to smile. She's such a cute little fuck doll, and her upbeat playful personality adds to her charms.

    After kissing a bunch, she did her best to DT me, but despite her gagging, she can't get the Sticker past her tonsils. No worries though, she got an "A" for effort, and her BLS and taint-licking was big fun. Then we 69 dined for a bit before I laid her down to slurp her up. Her clit seemed to pop out even more than previously before she came, and she loves helping herself along by working her nips. Started out the mish with her perpendicular on the table with her feet over my shoulder and then pressing her tiny toes against my cheeks as I hammered away. As fun as that was, I needed to see her little round booty in action, so we switched to doggy for the home run. Got to say, if she didn't have that big tattoo across her upper back, in doggy view she could be mistaken for being less than legal. But my conscious is clear.

    I popped with less than 10 minutes left, after which time Elsa gave me a pretty decent massage on my thighs, arms and scalp. Icing on the cake, I must say. She mentioned that she was winding up her rotation there, so Elsa fans should probably make an appointment soon to get their fix soon.

    As I was dressing, I was greeted by Kelly (very pretty), Tina (big boobs, but she's not really my type) and Mia, who I hadn't seen previously. Mia is very cute, too, and about as tiny as Elsa, so I might need to see how she compares in the future.

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