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  1. #30199

    Best Advice EVER

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeyRamone  [View Original Post]
    In light of recent events I'll add this.

    DON'T TALK TO THE POLICE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!

    And NEVER voluntarily go the station for an "interview" without a lawyer.

    Don't answer any questions, ever. Don't try and make excuses. Don't try and minimize (I only got a massage).

    Be polite and respectful but don't answer questions. You can even say something like, "I have a friend that's a lawyer and he'd never let me hear the end of it if I talked to you" Maybe even with a chuckle at the end.

    Keep in mind that the police can lie to you (we have your prints, we have a witness, we have video). They can say anything they want to try and get you to incriminate yourself.

    Nothing you say can help you. Even if you give them information that 100% exonerates you, it can't be brought up in court because of heresy rules.

    This is true for any crime you're being investigated for.

    As a lawyer friend of mind says, All my clients have the right to remain silent, few have the ability.

    There is almost no chance any mongers will be questioned related to the recent raids. Detectives are not going to run down a bunch of John's hoping to get them to incriminate themselves for a misdemeanor.

    However, if you do get arrested (for anything) follow this simple advice:

    Say the words, "I invoke my 5th ammendment right to remain silent" Yes, you have to it say it. The Supreme Court has said that just remaining silent is not enough. You must say it out loud.

    After that, say these 4 words, "I want a lawyer".

    Not, I think I should get a lawyer. Not, do you think I need a lawyer? Not, I want to talk to my mom or dad or anything else.

    Case law is clear. You must clearly declare that you want a lawyer. Nothing else will do.

    Even if you're too nervous to invoke the 5th, continue to say, "I want a lawyer".
    This honestly should be a pinned comment on this board. I have 2 friends who are attorneys and they would tell me the exact same thing. Guys, NEVER TELL COPS ANYTHING! The best script I was ever given from them (and is so simple to memorize) it's this:

    "Why are you talking to me (or if you get stopped in a vehicle) Why did you pull me over?

    When they start asking questions about where you're going, where you're coming from or what you're doing: "I'm not discussing my day with you".

    When they keep asking questions: "Am I being detained or am I free to go?

    If detained: "I invoke my 5th amendment rights at this time" <- the most important statement of them all.

    Anything else they ask or say to you past that point. This is when you SHUT THE FUCK UP! Invoking your 5th is you telling the cops that you are staying silent until you are either released from their custody or you have your lawyer present (even if court appointed).

    BONUS TIP: Unless the cop explicitly tells you that you are being detained, DO NOT GIVE THEM YOUR I'd OR IDENTIFY YOURSELF! I always say, "I need to hear you say on record that you are detaining me otherwise I don't need to identify myself to you. " The only time this doesn't apply is if it is a traffic stop (and you are the driver) when they ask for your I'd and insurance.

    Cops cannot hold you without probable cause, hard evidence or (even worse) a verbal confession from you so do NOT under any circumstances make their jobs easier! Remember: cops are not there to help you. Practice the script above and protect yourself.

    TL; DR: SHUT THE FUCK UP WHEN TALKING TO COPS!

  2. #30198
    In light of recent events I'll add this.

    DON'T TALK TO THE POLICE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!

    And NEVER voluntarily go the station for an "interview" without a lawyer.

    Don't answer any questions, ever. Don't try and make excuses. Don't try and minimize (I only got a massage).

    Be polite and respectful but don't answer questions. You can even say something like, "I have a friend that's a lawyer and he'd never let me hear the end of it if I talked to you" Maybe even with a chuckle at the end.

    Keep in mind that the police can lie to you (we have your prints, we have a witness, we have video). They can say anything they want to try and get you to incriminate yourself.

    Nothing you say can help you. Even if you give them information that 100% exonerates you, it can't be brought up in court because of heresy rules.

    This is true for any crime you're being investigated for.

    As a lawyer friend of mind says, All my clients have the right to remain silent, few have the ability.

    There is almost no chance any mongers will be questioned related to the recent raids. Detectives are not going to run down a bunch of John's hoping to get them to incriminate themselves for a misdemeanor.

    However, if you do get arrested (for anything) follow this simple advice:

    Say the words, "I invoke my 5th ammendment right to remain silent" Yes, you have to it say it. The Supreme Court has said that just remaining silent is not enough. You must say it out loud.

    After that, say these 4 words, "I want a lawyer".

    Not, I think I should get a lawyer. Not, do you think I need a lawyer? Not, I want to talk to my mom or dad or anything else.

    Case law is clear. You must clearly declare that you want a lawyer. Nothing else will do.

    Even if you're too nervous to invoke the 5th, continue to say, "I want a lawyer".

  3. #30197
    Quote Originally Posted by MisterPaul  [View Original Post]
    I returned last night to finally check out Apple. I had a wonderful experience. She is hot and very accommodating. As I was leaving, a Uber driver was dropping off a new girl. I had a brief chat with her in the parking lot. She was very pretty and told me her name was Nana. Nana had shoulder length dark brown hair and gorgeous big brown eyes. She had on a winter coat and a Dallas Cowboy t-shirt. I need to return to see what she looks like without the coat and t-shirt.
    I noticed they changed the phone number and have K-girls now. Do you know why?

  4. #30196
    Quote Originally Posted by GolDark  [View Original Post]
    Most progressives agree that sex work should be legalized and regulated to provide a safe environment for both providers and clients. What they are against, as we all should be, is human trafficking and being forced into sex work. You really are barking up the wrong tree here, trying to make some irrelevant political points.
    This is true. The most liberal area of the state (Ann Arbor / Washtenaw County) is the one area in Michigan that has decriminalized sex work.

  5. #30195

    Sakura Massage 88

    I do not remember seeing this reviewed. Stop by and was greeted by cute thirty-ish YO girl. Like, abnormally cute for massage joint. Seems possibly like a new place. Much to my surprise, she gave really Good massage. English was not great, but ok. She did some back walking without the bars on ceiling, which impressed me.

    When it came time for leg massage, she did some fingers in the ass crack, which I did not hate, then she started basically edging me when I was face down. She stopped right before the bomb went off, wiped back down with hot towel, then flip and edged some more. . 7 house, . 6 tip. No negotiating happened, so I appreciated that. Name was Yuyu. This has to be the 4th Yuyu I've heard of.

    The other girl in there was roughly 30 also. I hate to give up such a spot, but wouldn't be right to hog it. Give them some business guys.

    Warren.

  6. #30194

    No worries

    Quote Originally Posted by HarryDude  [View Original Post]
    That would have made more sense and sorry to call you out AM but better safe than sorry LOL.
    No worries but I am not the original poster.

  7. #30193
    Quote Originally Posted by HungaryMan  [View Original Post]
    Imagine quote marks before the word we and after the word misdemeanors and you'll understand probably more clearly.
    That would have made more sense and sorry to call you out AM but better safe than sorry LOL.

  8. #30192

    Misinterpreted

    Quote Originally Posted by HarryDude  [View Original Post]
    Just curious, your wording is strange what do you mean by we wrote 300 misdemeanors. ? Are you in that profession and monger as well?
    Imagine quote marks before the word we and after the word misdemeanors and you'll understand probably more clearly.

  9. #30191
    Quote Originally Posted by SamPerkins420  [View Original Post]
    Pretty sure that he meant "the cops aren't issuing press releases about writing a bunch of citations for getting a handy".
    Yes, I was being sarcastic. They won't waste their time because it's not news worthy.

  10. #30190

    Damage?

    Quote Originally Posted by TridentD  [View Original Post]
    It took me a month but I finally made it back to see Lisa. This time, I went for the table shower. Great experience. A very thorough scrubbing. Once again, she gave me a very good massage. She performed wonderfully and I was totally happy. On the way out, I saw a hot looking girl and Lisa told me that her name was Annie. She just arrived last night. She suggested that I might want to try her next time. As much as I like Lisa, I will probably give Annie an audition soon. Variety is definitely something I like.
    Just out of curiosity, what was the total damage out the door for Lisa? I might try and make it out there this week as an early Christmas present to myself.

  11. #30189

    Return to Gold Star

    Quote Originally Posted by TridentD  [View Original Post]
    https://us-detroit.bedpage.com/bodyr.../23067979.html

    I saw this ad a few months ago and was unable to find this place. I am in this area frequently so I just kept my eyes opened. It turns out, Gold Star is not in Ferndale; it is in Detroit. The Google map shows it in Ferndale about a half mile west of Woodward on W Eight Mile. It is actually on EAST EIGHT MILE about a quarter mile east of I-75. I stumbled upon it yesterday and stopped in for a visit. A beautiful Korean girl named Lisa answered the door and welcomed me in. She was early-30's with a great body hidden by a very tiny dress that barely covered her ass. I gave her the $80 house fee and started to get undressed. I should mention that the spa was spotless and furnished beautifully. Lisa came into the room and offered me a table shower. I was somewhat pressed for time so I declined. I got on the table face down and she began a very good massage. It was much better than almost any Asian place I have been. She did a very thorough job and her fingers let me know that it was time to turn over. I am a bit older so sometimes I need a little more encouragement to go forward. Lisa was very patient and provided the addition stimulus required. About 15 minutes later, she cleaned me up with an alcohol soaked cloth and gave me another 20 minutes of excellent massage. My visit to Gold Star spa was super and I will most certainly return.
    It took me a month but I finally made it back to see Lisa. This time, I went for the table shower. Great experience. A very thorough scrubbing. Once again, she gave me a very good massage. She performed wonderfully and I was totally happy. On the way out, I saw a hot looking girl and Lisa told me that her name was Annie. She just arrived last night. She suggested that I might want to try her next time. As much as I like Lisa, I will probably give Annie an audition soon. Variety is definitely something I like.

  12. #30188

    I don't think so

    Quote Originally Posted by HarryDude  [View Original Post]
    Just curious, your wording is strange what do you mean by we wrote 300 misdemeanors. ? Are you in that profession and monger as well?
    Pretty sure that he meant "the cops aren't issuing press releases about writing a bunch of citations for getting a handy".

  13. #30187

    We wrote.

    Quote Originally Posted by HarryDude  [View Original Post]
    Just curious, your wording is strange what do you mean by we wrote 300 misdemeanors. ? Are you in that profession and monger as well?
    I was wondering the same thing when I read that.

  14. #30186

    we wrote

    Quote Originally Posted by AnanaMo  [View Original Post]
    It's a misdemeanor for the first two solicitations. We wrote 300 misdemeanors doesn't make the news. Have your fun and don't worry about it. Now if your on number two already, hang it up. The 3rd is a felony.
    Just curious, your wording is strange what do you mean by we wrote 300 misdemeanors. ? Are you in that profession and monger as well?

  15. #30185

    "Some of these girls were prisoners"

    Oh please, I want to puke at this ridiculous statement. I've been doing this for 10 years and I've never met any girl who couldn't leave when ever they wanted to go to another store. How many times have you come across a "new girl" who you thought was going to be your ATF only to find out she left a few day later because they didn't like the shop or the other girls or they weren't that busy? I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but unlikely at these places.

    I wanted to puke at all the ridiculous heart jerking statements they made. "They had no transportation. " That's because most Chinese don't know how to drive! They all use Uber. The political police show is so fucking irritating.

    If all of this was legal, there would be zero trafficking at all of these places. Too many guys would play white knight, Myself included, to protect them from assholes. It would be safer for everyone involved.

    They said some of the girls sought trafficking help. If true I suspect they did this to minimize their own trouble.

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