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  1. #46353
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBobIII  [View Original Post]
    Regarding tipping, lets not forget the elephant in the room. Imho, rather than be concerned about how much a random grateful monger tips, we should be on the lookout for MONOPOLY. With the same outfit taking over multiple spas, they would be in a position to set the price. Imagine tomorrow, if Gardenia, Lets Relax and Tokyo decided to raise prices? Aqua (and the semoran spas) will follow suit and before we know it, a service industry town like Orlando will be stuck with big city prices! To prevent that, just like your portfolio, DIVERSIFY! Share the love with all the spas and utrs - like Michele1L - who has been providing consistent service at pre-covid rates!
    Or we pool our money together, open our own spa, recruit Kiko to manage it, I'll go scout talent in Asia (you're welcome) to stock the shelves of OUR AMP, and WE set the rate. The other shops lower their prices to compete and it's a win / win. Who's in?

  2. #46352

    Tipping

    Regarding tipping, lets not forget the elephant in the room. Imho, rather than be concerned about how much a random grateful monger tips, we should be on the lookout for MONOPOLY. With the same outfit taking over multiple spas, they would be in a position to set the price. Imagine tomorrow, if Gardenia, Lets Relax and Tokyo decided to raise prices? Aqua (and the semoran spas) will follow suit and before we know it, a service industry town like Orlando will be stuck with big city prices! To prevent that, just like your portfolio, DIVERSIFY! Share the love with all the spas and utrs - like Michele1L - who has been providing consistent service at pre-covid rates!

  3. #46351
    Quote Originally Posted by FootyFanatic14  [View Original Post]
    I've made it a point to just be a decent human being to these girls. We don't really know what kind of BS they have to deal with on a daily basis. Last month, I had just left a spa when the girl I just had a great time with texted me that someone came in so dirty and didn't even request a shower. She told me she threw up and kicked the guy out. I've had other girls tell me about guys who try and slip in bare even after the girl said no. An ATF of mine mentioned seeing a guy who was too big and was always rough with all the girls he's seen at the spa. Like non stop hard fucking for 50 minutes straight with a huge dick. Most times she said he wouldn't even finish. It was so bad that girls would only ever see him for HH sessions. Another ATF's even told me that some guys are so rough while FIV that they are in pain for days after a session. Even sometimes bleeding from being FIV too rough. Yes it's their job but sometimes they just need to actually enjoy a session for themselves.

    That's why I do my best to make my time with these girls as enjoyable as can be for the both of us. I'll be happy to get my finish, and fill out my time massaging them. Making them feel as relaxed as possible. My massage is the key to almost everything I've received that you all would consider as extra. Girls would be waiting for their turn to have my hands work on them. I can recall having massaged all three girls at a spa after spending time with one of then. I remember one girl specifically asking for a pussy massage. They literally melt in my hands as I'm working on them.

    It's not always about me. And they are really appreciative about that. Giving them this kind of relaxation and relief makes them very excited and willing to return the favor many many times over.

    If you're not inclined to spend the time doing that, then keep doing what you're doing. I'm just sharing what works for me.
    That's great insight. It's why I always want to be as gentle as possible with the girls, I know there are assholes out there who treat them like shit. Wish I knew how to massage but I'm clumsy at it (my hands are pretty beat up from hard work).

  4. #46350

    Its Not Always About Us Mongers

    I've made it a point to just be a decent human being to these girls. We don't really know what kind of BS they have to deal with on a daily basis. Last month, I had just left a spa when the girl I just had a great time with texted me that someone came in so dirty and didn't even request a shower. She told me she threw up and kicked the guy out. I've had other girls tell me about guys who try and slip in bare even after the girl said no. An ATF of mine mentioned seeing a guy who was too big and was always rough with all the girls he's seen at the spa. Like non stop hard fucking for 50 minutes straight with a huge dick. Most times she said he wouldn't even finish. It was so bad that girls would only ever see him for HH sessions. Another ATF's even told me that some guys are so rough while FIV that they are in pain for days after a session. Even sometimes bleeding from being FIV too rough. Yes it's their job but sometimes they just need to actually enjoy a session for themselves.

    That's why I do my best to make my time with these girls as enjoyable as can be for the both of us. I'll be happy to get my finish, and fill out my time massaging them. Making them feel as relaxed as possible. My massage is the key to almost everything I've received that you all would consider as extra. Girls would be waiting for their turn to have my hands work on them. I can recall having massaged all three girls at a spa after spending time with one of then. I remember one girl specifically asking for a pussy massage. They literally melt in my hands as I'm working on them.

    It's not always about me. And they are really appreciative about that. Giving them this kind of relaxation and relief makes them very excited and willing to return the favor many many times over.

    If you're not inclined to spend the time doing that, then keep doing what you're doing. I'm just sharing what works for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cocoacruiser  [View Original Post]
    Exactly. It's my habit to give more than asked for a few reasons.

    1) I am average looking, middle aged, and not well hung. So some things I can do to make myself a bit more memorable and welcomed when I return are be to be polite, respectful, and personable; and to give a little extra unasked. I also don't stress over getting a second round in. I'd rather kick back and relax with them if we have extra time.

    2) I don't want to talk about money after a session has started. If a girl is the type that keeps asking for more as we progress, it kills the mood for me and I probably won't see her again.

    3) It's really not that extra. It's a 25 percent tip. People also tip me that much in my service business sometimes (no I'm not a waiter LOL).

    If someone is a rockstar or so charming that they will be remembered and greeted as sweetly as I am without having to tip, good for them! But my method works for me.

  5. #46349

    Harold / tg spa

    Went over to tg the other evening after a visit with a girl fell through and I was in that area got a lady I hadn't seen (and I forgot to ask her name) before petite but probably late 50's or even 60's massage was the weakest I had gotten there and I was worried she was going to rush the sesh as it was only 30 minutes into the hour when she started cleaning me up from the massage but lord did her HE go long and wildly teasing.

    She started the tease with me face down ass up and had a finger up my ass crazy fast and slowly squoze and teased the whole package for what felt like forever then she climbed up and either actually rimmed me or did an amazing job faking it but she had asked if she could lick and I wasn't sure what she said and said ok and that happened on the flip she started asking for hella coin to continue and I was like nah not doing 100 so she came down to 60 and I was like whatever I normally tip more when prostate play is envolved anyways at that point she climbs on top with her ass in my face and kinda ruined the mood for a bit as her ass stank lmfao but she kept teasing and going and started to ratchet up speed too much but toned it down after I asked her to but while going slower she started licking my dick and stripped naked which tbh I didn't really care to see cause she's kinda old and flat everything but uh I'll suck a tit I guess after that I busted and tipped a little more since she went so crazy.

    Tbh not really what I'm looking for from there the tease level is but all the extra is expensive and if I want it I'll go see a escort or go to one of the more FS less massage AMPs really wish the first gal I saw there (should really ask people's names but I forget in that sorta setting idk why) was back idk how to describe her other than cute and more likely 40's instead of 50's and always at least for me was sticking her cute well maintained soft feet up by my hands to play with while finishing up the HE sitting between my legs.

  6. #46348
    I should probably clarify.

    The 1 k I gave wasn't a tip. It was a birthday present to someone that I consider as a friend in addition to being one of my regular providers.

    I had seen her more times than I can count and I had never tipped her anything extra before and never anything extra since. She has always given me above and beyond levels of service. Even cancelling other guys appointments and shoving them onto other girls when I walked in. She has bought me gifts and cooked me food on multiple occasions. I gave it to her at the end of the session and it resulted in quite a bit of an argument because she didn't want to accept it. (side note. A lot of Chinese women only celebrate birthdays when they're really young or really old).

    It's not about the money or gifts that you give the girls. Yes, they appreciate it. But at the end of the day. If you're a decent person to them. That goes much further than anything else.

    Quote Originally Posted by FootyFanatic14  [View Original Post]
    It's really interesting having known most of these girls from other cities where they charge a bit of a premium (7 total). My gift for them was always $$.5 flat across the board, even $$.2 sometimes if there wasn't a table shower. Seeing the same girls up there now, they tell me the guys here are cheap. Not that I don't sympathize with you guys but it's not that much of a difference. I handed $$.5 to one of the new girls working with one of the girls I know and she went to get me $10 change and I told her to keep it. She was genuinely surprised and gave me a deep kiss and pushed me back on the table for more fun since it wasn't busy. I've gotten crazy mileage from $$.5 gifts. I'm not dropping 1 k tips but I'm also not getting ripped off either (minus the Black Friday fiasco). I wouldn't say I'm the best looking guy but I treat them well and take care of them. The girls will find ways to keep me in the spa, not kick me out at the end of my hour. A lot of you guys are fixated on rushing to get a 2nd serving in, but I'm focused on taking care of them. The girls have returned the favor many times over to me.

    So here's what I will say: Worry less about how much you have to give and more about how to get the best out of what you give. Because I've never given more than $$. 5 and I've gotten way more than most of you would think of.

  7. #46347

    Miki!

    She followed up my visit last week with another outstanding performance today. Really can't get enough of her. She did mention it was Tuesday and not Thursday is when she is leaving. So only 3 days left. I was very happy to hear that she would be coming back. I believe Connie and Roxy are there with her now. Sounds like they are back to a 3 girl shop, with the new girl coming in on Tuesday for her.

    Quote Originally Posted by ThaJoker123  [View Original Post]
    Saw her last night and wow those tits are amazing. She said she'll actually be here until Thursday next week because the new girl got delayed. Did 2 rounds and at first she asked me to tip extra but when we finished the 2nd she said extra wasn't needed. She also said she would be back after a couple of months.

  8. #46346
    Quote Originally Posted by Cocoacruiser  [View Original Post]
    Exactly. It's my habit to give more than asked for a few reasons.

    1) I am average looking, middle aged, and not well hung. So some things I can do to make myself a bit more memorable and welcomed when I return are be to be polite, respectful, and personable; and to give a little extra unasked. I also don't stress over getting a second round in. I'd rather kick back and relax with them if we have extra time.

    2) I don't want to talk about money after a session has started. If a girl is the type that keeps asking for more as we progress, it kills the mood for me and I probably won't see her again.

    3) It's really not that extra. It's a 25 percent tip. People also tip me that much in my service business sometimes (no I'm not a waiter LOL).

    If someone is a rockstar or so charming that they will be remembered and greeted as sweetly as I am without having to tip, good for them! But my method works for me.
    I agree that negotiating after the session starts is a mood killer. Especially with some attitudes about it. Only once or twice have the girls been so cute and funny about it that I didn't mind. But usually negotiating during the session makes me lose interest.

  9. #46345

    It's supposed to be a dream anyway, right?

    Quote Originally Posted by OlderThanRocks  [View Original Post]

    My experience is that no matter how young the girls look or say they are. They are always older. I'd say that honestly most girls doing this work are in the 30-45 range. I know one girl in her mid-50's that people in this forum all rated in her 20's. In all my years, the youngest that I've ever truly met (and verified) was 27.
    Yes, I agree. I've been corrected on here when I've said a girl "looks about 25" and I feel the same about it. If she looks that way to me, that's how I'm going to review her. I know most of them are actually older, but who cares? They've done a damn good job keeping young looking and we should be impressed with that dedication.

    Plus, they keep those rooms dim for that very reason, to help us with our illusions. I'm good with that.

  10. #46344

    Let's Relax

    Decided to try let's Relax for the first time today, I've been going to Gardenia since things opened back up. I have to stay by saying I love the parking at Let's Relax, it's downstairs and the spa is right at the top of the stairs, almost as discreet as you can get. Monica / blue is my ATF but today I wanted somebody new, I walk inside and guess who greats me? Monica LOL. I told her I wanted to see get but she said she had very pretty new girl, so I gave in. A few min go by and Ada walks in and she was really cute. I don't know if she was new by she seemed really submissive. We've reviewed these spa's a thousand times so everything is on par with the service that's expected, the only difference was that Ada have more of a GF experience than a PSE experience, she seemed so innocent and cute, skin was a bit tanned and she had the sexiest man mades, large b / small c, dark hair past her shoulders, typical AMP backside. I went around 2 pm and they weren't busy at all.

  11. #46343

    I agree with Footy

    Quote Originally Posted by FootyFanatic14  [View Original Post]
    It's really interesting having known most of these girls from other cities where they charge a bit of a premium (7 total). My gift for them was always $$.5 flat across the board, even $$.2 sometimes if there wasn't a table shower. Seeing the same girls up there now, they tell me the guys here are cheap. Not that I don't sympathize with you guys but it's not that much of a difference. I handed $$.5 to one of the new girls working with one of the girls I know and she went to get me $10 change and I told her to keep it. She was genuinely surprised and gave me a deep kiss and pushed me back on the table for more fun since it wasn't busy. I've gotten crazy mileage from $$.5 gifts. I'm not dropping 1 k tips but I'm also not getting ripped off either (minus the Black Friday fiasco). I wouldn't say I'm the best looking guy but I treat them well and take care of them. The girls will find ways to keep me in the spa, not kick me out at the end of my hour. A lot of you guys are fixated on rushing to get a 2nd serving in, but I'm focused on taking care of them. The girls have returned the favor many times over to me.

    So here's what I will say: Worry less about how much you have to give and more about how to get the best out of what you give. Because I've never given more than $$. 5 and I've gotten way more than most of you would think of.
    Exactly. It's my habit to give more than asked for a few reasons.

    1) I am average looking, middle aged, and not well hung. So some things I can do to make myself a bit more memorable and welcomed when I return are be to be polite, respectful, and personable; and to give a little extra unasked. I also don't stress over getting a second round in. I'd rather kick back and relax with them if we have extra time.

    2) I don't want to talk about money after a session has started. If a girl is the type that keeps asking for more as we progress, it kills the mood for me and I probably won't see her again.

    3) It's really not that extra. It's a 25 percent tip. People also tip me that much in my service business sometimes (no I'm not a waiter LOL).

    If someone is a rockstar or so charming that they will be remembered and greeted as sweetly as I am without having to tip, good for them! But my method works for me.

  12. #46342

    Tokyo New Girl

    Knowing that there has been a lot of rotation at Gardenia, Tokyo, etc. I swung by Tokyo this afternoon to see the new talent.

    One of the new girls opened the door in a tight little black dress, took me by the hand and into the room. Once the door was closed she introduced herself and then wrapped her arms around my neck and started making out with me. Her name is Lola and she is very, very pretty. Long dark hair, good curves (probably C cup). She's a little bit on the shorter side for me but we managed just fine.

    I don't want to write a penthouse forum letter. But it was a really, really good session. Total GFE. I held her up in the air while she wrapped her legs around me and was grinding against me while we made out. After a little while I sat her on the edge of the table as we slowly took each other's clothes off. I laid her down and started kissing all over her body and we were doing a modified 69 with her on her side and me half on the table half-off. Suited up and get her on top of me while I was sitting on the edge of the table. Then doggy. And finished in mish.

    I would say that she's right up there with Blue at the other store or Kiki from MM in terms of passion but she's looks a bit younger than either of them.

  13. #46341

    Footy Gets it.

    Quote Originally Posted by FootyFanatic14  [View Original Post]
    So here's what I will say: Worry less about how much you have to give and more about how to get the best out of what you give. Because I've never given more than $$. 5 and I've gotten way more than most of you would think of.
    Even just moderate gestures of appreciation can yield great rewards. It's amazing how bringing few snacks, a Boba tea or cold Ramune to start the session can really extend the level and duration of fun.

    I frequently give the providers a massage at some point in the session, as well. You know how random girls will sometimes poke their heads in the door, in the middle of a visit? Got "busted" by another girl, when giving my primary a massage. She wanted some massage as well, so ended up with an impromptu 4 hands session, that went overtime due to the additional massage for the additional girl. That's a pretty good trade off.

  14. #46340

    Born 150 years too late

    Quote Originally Posted by OrlandoMcKoy  [View Original Post]
    Nothing happen but I saw a couple of yall walk in one right after the other lolol. Yall crazy. Literally door closed and other walked right in so someone bumped into other. Awkward haha.
    Honestly. Wouldn't it be better (without the syphilis and gonorrhea, anyway) if this "sport" were like the old western days. Roll into the saloon with a few buddies after a long day at work. Grab a beer / whiskey, relax and wait for your turn with the ladies? All of this "don't make eye contact" stuff is just silly. It shouldn't be an issue, as long as you don't bump into your pastor, your wife, your brother-in-law, or your dad / son, when visiting these wonderful establishments.

    I walked into MM a few years ago (before the Sp-apocalypse), and there must have been 4-5 dudes hanging out in the front room, waiting their turn. Everyone looking like a spanked puppy, refusing to make eye contact. If I wasn't on a time crunch, I would have ran to the grocery store and picked up a 12 pack of beer, to bring back to the waiting room, for an impromptu tailgate (oddly appropriate word for the scenario) party in the waiting room. Wonder what Keiko would have said, about that?

    Anyway, there is no reason to get worked up about bumping into each other, when visiting these places. It's no BFD. Enjoy the sport and don't worry about what other people think. Nobody (at least here, anyway) should care. Unless I got there first. .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw4xe-hzYUQ

  15. #46339

    Angela. Relax - Very fun and attractive

    I do a lot of travelling for work and have been reading the different city forums for a while and just decided to start adding my 2 cents. Was in MCO recently and, after reading reports, was very interested in visiting Angela at Let's Relax. Right as I was about to visit, someone posted a review stating that Angela wasn't as attractive as people were claiming. Made me start to second guess my choice but I stuck with my gut and made the trip. Really glad I did. She was very attractive and also very bubbly and flirtatious. They tried to get me to with someone else (Angela busy, not free for 1 hr) but I said I would come back. That is when they said "Ok" and shortly after she waltzed in wearing her birthday suit. Very nice! Had all of the same activities as previously reported and it was a really wonderful visit. She was funny, too. Kept on shaking her head and laughing at herself. "Oh, Angela. Too much wet! Too much wet! I heard she may not be around soon, so if you are considering a visit, I highly recommend.

    BTW. Out of all the cities I travel to, MOC is definitely one of the tops for this hobby. San Diego is also a good one.

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