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  1. #4544
    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    The bigger question, for me, is to what extent mongers are going to resist agency demands for their PII. It's my guess that, unfortunately, too many will continue to think with the small head. Which means that it's only a matter of time before we see a similar situation unfold.
    It's always the same complaint about PII, but it's just not realistic to keep complaining about this. The only way to get rid of the requirement for PII is to legalize the industry. Nothing less will suffice because every agency has to protect itself, as well.

    I agree that people need to be smart about what PII to give and where you can fake information, but telling people that we can change the industry (or even stop busts) by not giving PII is not realistic or helpful. The busts will happen regardless of PII given or not. This is not a question of thinking with the small head, rather it is about coming to terms with the risk you are willing to live with. If you don't have the skills to buy / photoshop a fake license, spoof an email, or create a fake Linkedin (or pay someone on Fiverr to these things), maybe consider spending some time to learn that first. If you're afraid of the police knocking on your door to out you, then just do what a million other horny guys do and hit up tinder or the bar to find some legal release.

  2. #4543

    Bust info

    I be look for any new info about east Va busts. Lo behold, I sees a newscaster gal stand front of that place in Mossaic that APC work out that had fob elevator shit.

    Was APC and BEG at same place?

  3. #4542
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1947

    Depends on the definition of failure

    Quote Originally Posted by SaintPolycarp  [View Original Post]
    BTT bull shit will fail, indeed they are failing. What they did was nothing but a political circus show. Unless they close all the largest, most proficient and heavily trafficked websites as OnlyFan that peddle independents and "enterprise" based escorts and other adult entertainers equally, just like what Trump did in the early stage of his administration, it's just "fuck them!" A simple enlightening question would be, why only BTT? Why not Taiwanese or Columbian or Brazilian or Russian or the Appalachian Hillbilly or Black agencies?? Yet still, just fuck BTT, who cares?
    IMHO, the three defendants in the VA-MA "trafficking" case are royally screwed, no ifs, ands, or buts. The amount of evidence unveiled to this point is overwhelming, and the feds almost certainly have more in reserve. In fact, I doubt it will come to trial because a competent defense lawyer will likely try to reach a plea deal. From that point of view LE will surely count this as a win.

    But the world's oldest profession is nothing if not resilient. This isn't the first bust of this kind, and it won't be the last. Providers and mongers will adapt and move forward, as they always have. In that sense, LE has failed and will continue to fail because consensual adults are not going to stop participating in the hobby. For every agency, individual provider, or monger, who drops out of the game, others will take their place. Sex and money are powerful incentives and LE has never been able to do more than scratch the surface.

    As for why this particular agency was targeted, who knows? Maybe some info fell into LE's lap and they just ran with it? But, just like getting a traffic ticket when there are others who were going as fast or faster than you, it doesn't work to say "What about the other guy?" as a protest.

    The bigger question, for me, is to what extent mongers are going to resist agency demands for their PII. It's my guess that, unfortunately, too many will continue to think with the small head. Which means that it's only a matter of time before we see a similar situation unfold.

  4. #4541
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    Posts: 147
    Quote Originally Posted by KillAk  [View Original Post]
    Saw Cleo in NOVA and Vegas. Great IOP. Speaks English very well. I see her doing well if she were to go indie.

    Never could get through with Josephine's booker. Her reviews are killer. Looks like she's on hiatus now. Saw Lixa before she went indie and changed her name to Camille. Pretty enough for a k-girl but not worth the insane prices she charges now.
    More power to them, but I try to avoid the so-called indies that use agency networks. The main difference between them and the usual "contractors" is the upcharge. Sure, they might repackage the goods to look a little classier, but mongers should stand firm (no pun intended) and think with their other head to keep the cash grabs in check.

  5. #4540

    Confidential source TBC

    Quote Originally Posted by SaintPolycarp  [View Original Post]
    Perhaps Zelle transfers are safer, do you think? LOL. No fucking chance. All of them in this mundane field have been using their personal bank accounts, buying large money orders, investing into liquid assets and real estates, some even own the interstate real estate investment businesses. As I've been saying, fuck them all.
    I wonder if the 3 idiots will flip to bring down MORE? I also wonder if anyone is still sending in their DL. Ect to be cleared?

  6. #4539
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    Posts: 1168
    Quote Originally Posted by Xonms  [View Original Post]
    Edit okay k10pro their not in dc area. Please ignore my post.
    Looks like they're based in northern NJ. Decent reviews on the big review site.

    https://www.k10pro.net

  7. #4538
    Quote Originally Posted by Xonms  [View Original Post]
    How was the shop there? I'm thinking of maybe using it or happytogether if they accept new customers.
    Edit okay k10pro their not in dc area. Please ignore my post.

  8. #4537
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    Posts: 2071
    Quote Originally Posted by LoveDemAzn  [View Original Post]
    I highly doubt AG, DS, and CP will take any new clients in right now till every thing settle down or don't really need new clients. If you not verify with them best to find independent or go to amp.
    Agree 4 agencies disappeared in the same week. Combine it with the holidays and fewer touring girls. I don't see them taking new clients until they need to fill schedules.

  9. #4536

    Forgot about Ara

    Agreed, beside from service Ara is very hot.

    Quote Originally Posted by LocalCustomer  [View Original Post]
    And Ara.

    Seems the hotter the girl the more limited the services.

  10. #4535

    Any tired k10 pro?

    How was the shop there? I'm thinking of maybe using it or happytogether if they accept new customers.

  11. #4534
    Perhaps Zelle transfers are safer, do you think? LOL. No fucking chance. All of them in this mundane field have been using their personal bank accounts, buying large money orders, investing into liquid assets and real estates, some even own the interstate real estate investment businesses. As I've been saying, fuck them all.

    Quote Originally Posted by JacobsPatrick  [View Original Post]
    Plus the 3 idiots were depositing large amounts of cash into their personal bank accounts and buying large money orders. Pretty easy targets. And yes, still staying low.

  12. #4533

    Cash deposits and money orders

    Quote Originally Posted by SaintPolycarp  [View Original Post]
    BTT bull shit will fail, indeed they are failing. What they did was nothing but a political circus show. Unless they close all the largest, most proficient and heavily trafficked websites as OnlyFan that peddle independents and "enterprise" based escorts and other adult entertainers equally, just like what Trump did in the early stage of his administration, it's just "fuck them!" A simple enlightening question would be, why only BTT? Why not Taiwanese or Columbian or Brazilian or Russian or the Appalachian Hillbilly or Black agencies?? Yet still, just fuck BTT, who cares?
    Plus the 3 idiots were depositing large amounts of cash into their personal bank accounts and buying large money orders. Pretty easy targets. And yes, still staying low.

  13. #4532
    Senior Member


    Posts: 147
    Quote Originally Posted by SaintPolycarp  [View Original Post]
    BTT bull shit will fail, indeed they are failing. What they did was nothing but a political circus show. Unless they close all the largest, most proficient and heavily trafficked websites as OnlyFan that peddle independents and "enterprise" based escorts and other adult entertainers equally, just like what Trump did in the early stage of his administration, it's just "fuck them!" A simple enlightening question would be, why only BTT? Why not Taiwanese or Columbian or Brazilian or Russian or the Appalachian Hillbilly or Black agencies?? Yet still, just fuck BTT, who cares?
    The simple answer would be because they had a Korean informant (the CS mentioned in the affidavit).

  14. #4531

    Ds cim.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo85  [View Original Post]
    Yes indeed she does. The only girl at DS that does not provide CIM was Lynn.
    And Ara.

    Seems the hotter the girl the more limited the services.

  15. #4530
    Quote Originally Posted by Rakra  [View Original Post]
    Does anyone know if Daphne from DS provide CIM? Been wanting to see her in her past visits, but did not have the opportunity.
    Yes - 100%.

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