News and Media Reports

**JmSuttr** · 11-09-23 20:02

Originally Posted by Yeele [View Original Post]

Local news said they have surveillance videos of dozens of clients. This is hard to avoid and all by luck.

Well-reviewed = safe (r).

Independent = hard to spin their activity as "trafficking," little $ at play.

Incall = activity takes place at a location that's not linked to you.

Burner + cash = self-explanatory.

If you show up on surveillance video, so what? At most it's a misdemeanor, which means it's not worth anyone's time to investigate. Plus all someone has to do is deny criminal behavior by saying it was a photo session, or something like that. Of course, best to never say anything. But, if backed into a corner, deny, deny, deny!

Once you venture beyond the above you increase your level of risk. As current events demonstrate, agencies are great, until they're not. And handing over your PII so you can be with a real hottie is no problem, until it is.

P.S. Always important to be sure you're seeing a true independent. Reviews should help make that clear.

**Serpico99** · 11-09-23 19:16

Originally Posted by Kijimuna [View Original Post]

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/fairfax-...xury-apartment

I recall these apartment "brothels" getting raided every few years. Nothing to see here, move along. You would expect these places to get raided because of all the foot traffic going in and out of one apartment at all hours of the day / night. Some nosey neighbor (s) is / are going to say something and report it.

**JmSuttr** · 11-09-23 18:57

Originally Posted by Eerock [View Original Post]

A few things stand out in the supporting affidavit. First, for a putative trafficking investigation and a long indictment, there is very little detail on where the women are coming from. But it goes into minute detail of a business run by the three suspects operated, gathered over the course of some time. The feds don't have the manpower to do this everywhere, so I read it as a warning to customers elsewhere of what they could be getting themselves into. The DC area connection guaranteed widespread media interest in the customer base.

Considering that, when "trafficking" is alleged, they can leverage state / local agencies and multi-agency task forces set up to deal with the dreaded "T" scourge! In many ways, it's all about the Benjamins as they're more likely to target defendants from whom they can reap the most asset forfeiture and / or the most publicity. The local depts usually share in the forfeiture haul, as well as ensuring that the spigot of anti-trafficking grant money keeps flowing.

The other thing to consider is that cases don't necessarily start at the federal level. A local dept can start an investigation and if / when they find enough money and indicators of (loosely defined) trafficking, they'll often pitch it to the feds. They'll have to share the credit, but federal forfeiture authority is usually broader and more wide-ranging, so there will be a larger pot of money to spit.

Edit: The word "split" autocorrected to "spit," which is rather appropriate!

**Yeele** · 11-09-23 18:32

Originally Posted by TomMcAn [View Original Post]

This is why I keep telling my fellow mongers never to give out real names, photos, identification, employment info, etc. Nor should mongers pay with a credit card or any form of electronic payment, only cash at the time of service. You see what happens when our least favorite uncle busts an agency or individual provider? A lot of mongers are now at risk of being exposed and being embarrassed at the very least. Some might even lose their jobs, careers, and marriages as a result, even if they don't face criminal charges.

Edited to add: the article's author needs a geography lesson. Fairfax and Tysons Corner are located in Northern Virginia, not eastern Virginia.

Local news said they have surveillance videos of dozens of clients. This is hard to avoid and all by luck.

**Kijimuna** · 11-09-23 18:05

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/fairfax-...xury-apartment

**Max #01** · 11-09-23 17:31

Originally Posted by JackRyan1 [View Original Post]

Targeting Cambridge and Tyson's.

On twitterverse today.

I commented on this in the agency forum. Highly unlikely, IMHO.

**Vamassage Fan** · 11-09-23 17:10

Originally Posted by Mannerism30 [View Original Post]

There's a reason I was never a fan of being verified.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/08/high...more-feds.html

What are the odds that foreignintelligence hasn't breached and accesses databases such as P411 and TER anyway? Just never detected.

**JackRyan1** · 11-09-23 16:50

LOL.

The daily wire is covering this story.

Linking it to Chinese bla bla bla.

**ChrisCarr** · 11-09-23 15:13

Originally Posted by JackRyan1 [View Original Post]

Targeting Cambridge and Tyson's.

On twitterverse today.

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/stat...51038409277454

**JackRyan1** · 11-09-23 14:38

Targeting Cambridge and Tyson's.

On twitterverse today.

**Eerock** · 11-09-23 11:19

Originally Posted by Randalthor [View Original Post]

The reference to "eastern Virginia" comes from the federal court district where the charges were filed. Check out the indictment which details the verification process and how the business was set up.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...thel-ring-case

A few things stand out in the supporting affidavit. First, for a putative trafficking investigation and a long indictment, there is very little detail on where the women are coming from. But it goes into minute detail of a business run by the three suspects operated, gathered over the course of some time. The feds don't have the manpower to do this everywhere, so I read it as a warning to customers elsewhere of what they could be getting themselves into. The DC area connection guaranteed widespread media interest in the customer base.

**Max #01** · 11-09-23 09:14

Originally Posted by Mannerism30 [View Original Post]

There's a reason I was never a fan of being verified.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/08/high...more-feds.html

Me, too. I've come close a couple of times, but have never taken the plunge. Did anyone else notice that this story broke the day after election day? This whole thing was done by the DHS feds, taking full advantage of human trafficking laws enacted after 9-11. Either the cop who wrote the affidavit did PhD-level research or perhaps had a lot of experience himself in the hobby. One other observation: It appears as if this investigation started in Boston and spread to NOVA when the "PhD" started connecting the dots.

**Randalthor** · 11-09-23 06:12

Originally Posted by TomMcAn [View Original Post]

the article's author needs a geography lesson. Fairfax and Tysons Corner are located in Northern Virginia, not eastern Virginia.

The reference to "eastern Virginia" comes from the federal court district where the charges were filed. Check out the indictment which details the verification process and how the business was set up.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...thel-ring-case

**Tom McAn** · 11-09-23 00:47

Originally Posted by Mannerism30 [View Original Post]

There's a reason I was never a fan of being verified.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/08/high...more-feds.html

This is why I keep telling my fellow mongers never to give out real names, photos, identification, employment info, etc. Nor should mongers pay with a credit card or any form of electronic payment, only cash at the time of service. You see what happens when our least favorite uncle busts an agency or individual provider? A lot of mongers are now at risk of being exposed and being embarrassed at the very least. Some might even lose their jobs, careers, and marriages as a result, even if they don't face criminal charges.

Edited to add: the article's author needs a geography lesson. Fairfax and Tysons Corner are located in Northern Virginia, not eastern Virginia.