BBFS Providers Manhattan

**PokerBrah** · 11-02-23 17:33

Originally Posted by DrunkenKid [View Original Post]

I don't have enough data on this, but it has come up in conversations after multiple sessions with some JGirls. In general, the new ones are getting less than 50% of the hourly fee. Girls that come back for another tour are smarter and on the other side of the 50%.

The best deal that I have heard about? One popular girl that was here for 2 months was getting 60% and her agent fees were being paid by the house.

Good enough data.

**DrunkenKid** · 11-02-23 17:26

Originally Posted by Azf06 [View Original Post]

Does anyone know the general split a girl takes from an hour rate?

I don't have enough data on this, but it has come up in conversations after multiple sessions with some JGirls. In general, the new ones are getting less than 50% of the hourly fee. Girls that come back for another tour are smarter and on the other side of the 50%.

The best deal that I have heard about? One popular girl that was here for 2 months was getting 60% and her agent fees were being paid by the house.

**ShyNerdX** · 11-02-23 16:08

Originally Posted by PokerBrah [View Original Post]

I do think CIP MSRP is still around because girls getting a bit lower cut on the regular session price so they hope to get it back on the CIP MSRP. They're just fucking retarded because why would anyone want to pay $200 for CIP if half is $230. CIP $200 for full hour $360 is also expersive but why the fuck would anyone pay $200 for half hour CIP? Like. It's 1 shot vs 2 shots.

Some girl know the value of repeat and getting $100 CIP and repeats is better for the overall bottom line. Some would do it even lower since multiple visits would yield more $ in the end.

Exactly, that's why I was saying it's the shills and simps that are brainwashing the girls. They're probably feeding them stuff like "I'm VIP and write a lot of reviews, you shouldn't lower prices but if you give me $20-40 discount I'll help you out" or however they work I have no idea. My success rate of seeing a girl on day 1 is 90% vs day 3+ which is a 50/50 coin flip. And it could also be the long standing girls who say "don't budge from 100/200" because they are flexible themselves UTR to get that business from the new girls. If it was up to me, if my sources don't tell me a girl is flexi and it's day 3++ I won't visit the girl. I would rather coin flip day 1-2 than to coin flip days 3+, statistics show most people aren't willing to TOFTT on new girls, the ones that do are either 1. Credible mongers or 2. Shills aka you have your coin flip.

Disclaimer: I have no real intel, but this is me projecting business trends as I am a business owner of 4 businesses. This is just what I'm seeing and it's the same as any business, stay competitive to stay relevant that's all it is.

**PokerBrah** · 11-02-23 15:47

Originally Posted by JediNY [View Original Post]

Go out on top? Not exactly. She is still laughing all the way to the bank LOL.

Not sure if you understood what I meant. Go out on top as is not have to pay MSRP.

I don't care if she makes money. That's her job. Good for her.

**ShyNerdX** · 11-02-23 13:59

Originally Posted by Meiji [View Original Post]

I'm pretty new to the NYC / East coast scene, but am a vet in California and especially in SF Bay. I don't think you are going to get price drops during the current glut of providers. You are much more likely to get either a more open menu from some girls (2 girl shows, Greek) or what you are seeing now, which is girls trying to show the illusion of scarcity by only working in one place for a short time and then moving to a different city or moving to another org under a different name. Most guys like novelty and are far more likely to see the new hotness vs the known quantity, unless it's a stunner that gives good service who can essentially name her own price because her dance card is going to be full regardless.

To use economic terms, I think the $460/560 price is relatively inelastic not (only) because of the simps but because Jgirls that are giving BB service in a soapland in Kyushuu where the yen is in the toilet hear through word of mouth that they could be making the going rate and are on the first plane to JFK, only to have to compete with every other girl that's done the same along with the existing cast of Kgirls and Cgirls.

I doubt prices will drop much because you aren't going to get simps or anyone else to freeze out these girls, or turn down the upcharge.

But you said it yourself "to compete with the other girls", the shills and simps are feeding these thoughts to them hoping that they can match that offer here in NYC. The be competitive they need to be flexible or lower their prices because once mongers hear "blah blah is flexible or giving $100" they will flock to her causing a surge in high demand. It's a supply and demand business, over saturated like some are saying mongers are now looking at reviews and perks on to see. If someone offers better upcharge, than of course they will go see that provider. It's the same for videos and videophiles, I bet if the upcharge price is $100 or less you will see many video mongers. I've heard from multiple provider sources that the girls that are known to be $100 or less are seeing 8-10++ guys a day where as the girls offering $200 firm are only seeing 4-6 a day.

Can't be comparing City to City because much like economics the cost of living is different in each city so the income will be higher or lower. It's really about people feeding the girls false hope and dreams that every monger will pay the same which is 7/10 not the case.

**JediNY** · 11-02-23 13:44

Originally Posted by PokerBrah [View Original Post]

I do think CIP MSRP is still around because girls getting a bit lower cut on the regular session price so they hope to get it back on the CIP MSRP. They're just fucking retarded because why would anyone want to pay $200 for CIP if half is $230. CIP $200 for full hour $360 is also expersive but why the fuck would anyone pay $200 for half hour CIP? Like. It's 1 shot vs 2 shots.

Assuming you want the $200 CIP, it is $430 for the half and $560 for the hour.

Assuming you can pop number 2, that is still an extra $130 you need to pay.

Some folks may not want to pay the $130. No need to throw more money than needed at that pussy.

**JediNY** · 11-02-23 13:16

Originally Posted by PokerBrah [View Original Post]

Yuki was very fucking smart but I had to cut it while it was good before she asks for MSRP. She never did but I'd like to go out on top... or from behind when it's still good.

Go out on top? Not exactly. She is still laughing all the way to the bank LOL.

**JediNY** · 11-02-23 13:15

Originally Posted by PokerBrah [View Original Post]

It's still a business if you're not fucking them for 100% free and 100% $0. Don't forget that brah. No CIP $ is still business. Just more discounts for you.

Absolutely. As long as you visit, they get cash and they win.

**CreaminThePie** · 11-02-23 13:13

https://www.prettyyukinyc.com/view/439

New girl at pretty yuki FH. Chance to fuck her for cheap before she potentially shows up in NYC LOL.

She was in CA for a week or two at 200/400 hr.

https://mimi16888.com/view/224

https://www.miyahouse.com/copy-of-in-house-4

**PokerBrah** · 11-02-23 13:10

Originally Posted by JediNY [View Original Post]

This is a business but I don't like girls that make it a business with me LOL.

I visited a regular yesterday and from start to finish happy to see me and thank me for visiting blah blah blah.

As opposed to another regular the other day who noted I do not pay for CIP. I will be passing her when she is up in the rotation.

There are too many girls available to stay with a girl that does not give you their A game without bs.

It's still a business if you're not fucking them for 100% free and 100% $0. Don't forget that brah. No CIP $ is still business. Just more discounts for you.

**PokerBrah** · 11-02-23 13:08

I think the number of mongers has gone down while the volume of girls has gone up.

Supply and Demand are already out of wack. And I do see some evidence of price changes.

Demi was $260/500 a PPC and is now much cheaper at Smilingeyes.

I do see more $230 price range girls. Not going to change or make them cheap enough if mongers are fucking poorer due to inflation or out of the job though.

There will always be exceptions but I think the norm price seems to be lowering a little bit.

I do think CIP MSRP is still around because girls getting a bit lower cut on the regular session price so they hope to get it back on the CIP MSRP. They're just fucking retarded because why would anyone want to pay $200 for CIP if half is $230. CIP $200 for full hour $360 is also expersive but why the fuck would anyone pay $200 for half hour CIP? Like. It's 1 shot vs 2 shots.

Some girl know the value of repeat and getting $100 CIP and repeats is better for the overall bottom line. Some would do it even lower since multiple visits would yield more $ in the end.

Originally Posted by Meiji [View Original Post]

I'm pretty new to the NYC / East coast scene, but am a vet in California and especially in SF Bay. I don't think you are going to get price drops during the current glut of providers. You are much more likely to get either a more open menu from some girls (2 girl shows, Greek) or what you are seeing now, which is girls trying to show the illusion of scarcity by only working in one place for a short time and then moving to a different city or moving to another org under a different name. Most guys like novelty and are far more likely to see the new hotness vs the known quantity, unless it's a stunner that gives good service who can essentially name her own price because her dance card is going to be full regardless.

To use economic terms, I think the $460/560 price is relatively inelastic not (only) because of the simps but because Jgirls that are giving BB service in a soapland in Kyushuu where the yen is in the toilet hear through word of mouth that they could be making the going rate and are on the first plane to JFK, only to have to compete with every other girl that's done the same along with the existing cast of Kgirls and Cgirls.

I doubt prices will drop much because you aren't going to get simps or anyone else to freeze out these girls, or turn down the upcharge.

**PokerBrah** · 11-02-23 12:52

Originally Posted by ShyNerdX [View Original Post]

Raising her price towards the end of the tour makes sense because she already has a web of customers. She knows she's almost done so she's ok with them not returning if she got them to return previously 5+ times. This is a business and economics game after all, it's the shills and the simps that are ruining for the girls not us mongers. We lose nothing as we still keep our cash, the girls though they lose cash for being firm / paying shills and simps and not getting business.

That's probably how yume ppc stayed in the game, she knew she couldn't compete with the younger girls, so she went freebie route to maintain repeats.

100% on Yume. A lot of returns because it's a simple economics. If I can save $200 on some hot girl, I'd go back because I'm getting a great return.

Yuki was very fucking smart but I had to cut it while it was good before she asks for MSRP. She never did but I'd like to go out on top... or from behind when it's still good.

**PokerBrah** · 11-02-23 12:37

4 New ones?

Rurika 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/442 - looks nice, someone asked if new, I am not certain but don't recall these pics.

Suyen NJ https://myluxeescape.com/content/ - real pics?

Suzu PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/suzuchan - tiny spinner with flat everything is back. Some of you like this, not my type.

Oto PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/otomizuhara - looks good.

Originally Posted by PokerBrah [View Original Post]