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[SuelyBrah]

I don't give a shit if he trash anybody. That's the 1st amendment. Somebody else may have good experiences. But he endorses you, that she deserved not to be paid. This is wrong. That's not standing up for anything. If you find something wrong, you should put on your clothes and leave while still being charged for what you have done and what you have seen. The time you stayed implied your consent to her behavior.

If you are going to make these rules for the girls, the same can be said for the guy.

So if the girl takes the guy's money, it's a rule that she must oblige to fulfil her service, honor her menu and have reasonable attitude.

Imagine if a crime boss, like a cartel, saw a girl. She took his money and did not fulfill her end of the deal. We all know what will happen to her don't we? She be lucky to be walking out of there with a few bruises. Now don't go and say that I'm advocating for violence. I know some of these forum trolls will do that.

My case and point is this:

What's the difference between a regular client vs. An underground boss? The boss makes sure he gets what he paid for or else there's consequences. He holds a standard. He holds the line. He has the balls and muscle to do what's needed.

The rest of you just wimp out and let the girls get away with impunity. Not only that, you guys justify their action, defend it, and white knight for them. That part is what I find most despicable.

You don't have to be a boss to have standards and expectation. But whatever you do, don't go defending injustice against guys.

[GimmeMoreHead]

I don't give a shit if he trash anybody. That's the 1st amendment. Somebody else may have good experiences. But he endorses you, that she deserved not to be paid. This is wrong. That's not standing up for anything. If you find something wrong, you should put on your clothes and leave while still being charged for what you have done and what you have seen. The time you stayed implied your consent to her behavior.

There are no rules in this game. Foh with that simp shit.

[GimmeMoreHead]

I'm asking you that should we force a refund after unsatisfactory service?

Whether you know any fact via the internet is irrelevant; so is the name-calling.

No, you did give a shit that he didn't pay. You are encouraging him.

I'm glad that 304 didn't get paid for providing terrible service. But you do you and keep simping for these 304's. They still won't fuck you for free.

[LC310]

If you have had enough of the troll, I suggest you click on the "Add to Ignore List" feature.

Your feed will clean up big time. .

[James D 2004]

To be fair, GimmeMoreHead is not encouraging or discouraging me here because what's done is already done. It's more like he's expressing how he feels about shitty attitude and service. It takes a man with balls to hold the line, have standards, and stand up to the grain. Based on the reactions we saw from my situation, it's safe to say that there's a decent amount of guys with this white knight complex out there. They always see the girl as the helpless victim and the guy as the perpetrator almost always. It's this bias, this simping, this white knighting complex that we're disgusted by.

You know that in domestic violence, it may be the man who hit the woman, but you know who is the one who started and instigated to that stage? Almost always the woman. I know LEO who have said this repeated. This fact is just something to think about. Something else to think about is how they encourage women to unite, while shaming us men to hang out, calling our behavior toxic masculinity. There's a host of thing against menhood these days. They encourage us to fight each other, see each other as competition and a threat. With that being said, I respect and value guys who live by the saying, "Bros before hoes. ".

I don't give a shit if he trash anybody. That's the 1st amendment. Somebody else may have good experiences. But he endorses you, that she deserved not to be paid. This is wrong. That's not standing up for anything. If you find something wrong, you should put on your clothes and leave while still being charged for what you have done and what you have seen. The time you stayed implied your consent to her behavior.

[SuelyBrah]

I'm asking you that should we force a refund after unsatisfactory service?

Whether you know any fact via the internet is irrelevant; so is the name-calling.

No, you did give a shit that he didn't pay. You are encouraging him.

To be fair, GimmeMoreHead is not encouraging or discouraging me here because what's done is already done. It's more like he's expressing how he feels about shitty attitude and service. It takes a man with balls to hold the line, have standards, and stand up to the grain. Based on the reactions we saw from my situation, it's safe to say that there's a decent amount of guys with this white knight complex out there. They always see the girl as the helpless victim and the guy as the perpetrator almost always. It's this bias, this simping, this white knighting complex that we're disgusted by.

You know that in domestic violence, it may be the man who hit the woman, but you know who is the one who started and instigated to that stage? Almost always the woman. I know LEO who have said this repeated. This fact is just something to think about. Something else to think about is how they encourage women to unite, while shaming us men to hang out, calling our behavior toxic masculinity. There's a host of thing against menhood these days. They encourage us to fight each other, see each other as competition and a threat. With that being said, I respect and value guys who live by the saying, "Bros before hoes. ".

[James D 2004]

Your question is stupid. You're trying to make it an ALL situation when it's a unique, one time thing. You're a simp. That's not name calling. That's fact. He didn't pay. So what? I don't give a shit.

I'm asking you that should we force a refund after unsatisfactory service?

Whether you know any fact via the internet is irrelevant; so is the name-calling.

No, you did give a shit that he didn't pay. You are encouraging him.

[GimmeMoreHead]

I was asking you a question, "Should we force a refund if the service is unsatisfactory? You know the answer, the rule of the Continental Hotel. Whatever names you call don't relate to the issue at hand. He cum, didn't pay.

Your question is stupid. You're trying to make it an ALL situation when it's a unique, one time thing. You're a simp. That's not name calling. That's fact. He didn't pay. So what? I don't give a shit.

[TempletonRat]

Well said again Lex.

At first, I wasn't going to post my whole story. But I figured it be something interesting for the community to read and learn from my mistake. But shit, who knew it stirred up all kinds of emotions. It sure showed me who can think clearly vs. Who jumps to conclusions based on their half asses reading.

It must have been about the 4th time now that I said I did not realize I had the donation on me until she texted me a few hours later, when I was well out of the city she was hosting. I tried to reply but she blocked me.

I also went through great length to explain that this was AN ACCIDENT. I always fulfill my end of the deal. But apparently, the white knights, trolls, simps, and ignorant fools some how got the idea that this is something I practice on a regular base. Idiots will be idiots.

Next good point is about feeling out the vibe of the session asap. If it feels off, call it off. This was my mistake here. I noticed her cold stare but I was wishful thinking that it would get better. Nope. It only got worse. This is the lesson to be learned.

Lastly, I agree that if the girl honors her menu and had reasonable attitude, and even though her skills sucks, the BJ was painful, she smelled like a dead fish, sounded like a dying donkey, didn't look quite like her pics, but the guy did the deed already, he should pay. This has definitely happened to me.

The girl was subpar, an unsatisfactory experience, yet I always paid them in full because that's what's agreed on.

However, I will let the fellas know to dodge a downer. That's just how it should go.

Yeah once I saw a chunky Latina at Momo and forgot to pay her like 15 years ago.

I sure as hell didn't rush back to pay the mamasan. That would've been insane.

Its kinda on them if they forget to ask. This is their occupation and trade after all!

[SuelyBrah]

Guys let's all squash this already and get on to better things.

I've been reading all the back and forth and I try my best to see things from everyone's point of view. From my personal experiences I do believe in quality of service provided as promised by the provider but also believe that if you did get sucked and fucked and nutted the provider should still get paid some money but not all as previously agreed. Since they did not provide all services as promised. I've done this with street pros, UTRs and sometimes non-pros but more with Pros / UTRs. Once the menu is discussed and a price agreed upon I'll let them know if the menu isn't fully provided I'll withhold some cash and let them know how much. It's up to them then to agree to that or not. If they don't then I just leave or just never meet up. I've had what I thought were non-pros try to upsell me on the day of the meet after we already discussed everything. I had a hot as fuck Persian UTR who I thought was a non-pro do that to me in the room. I have a hard max I spend and I wasn't going to spend more. So I told her nope and cancelled the meeting and luckily it wasn't to late to get my money back on the room. I've said it before I don't care how hot a provider is I don't spend more than my hard max. So if you already get a bad vibe from the provider and things don't feel good. Just leave and don't go through with it.

In this case SuelyBrah already has said he realized he accidentally didn't pay her and tried to make it right with the provider. But I believe there were already bad vibes between them right from the start of the meeting. I personally would have just canceled and left. Because I've been in situations like this before and know how it's going to end with crappy service. But I believe him that he tried to make it right but those bad vibes from the beginning really got to her and she's blocked him and washed herself of the situation. And I believe all of us here discussing this should just drop it as well and stop all this back and forth bickering. Move on! So much pussy out there no need to keep discussing this.

Peace!

Well said again Lex.

At first, I wasn't going to post my whole story. But I figured it be something interesting for the community to read and learn from my mistake. But shit, who knew it stirred up all kinds of emotions. It sure showed me who can think clearly vs. Who jumps to conclusions based on their half asses reading.

It must have been about the 4th time now that I said I did not realize I had the donation on me until she texted me a few hours later, when I was well out of the city she was hosting. I tried to reply but she blocked me.

I also went through great length to explain that this was AN ACCIDENT. I always fulfill my end of the deal. But apparently, the white knights, trolls, simps, and ignorant fools some how got the idea that this is something I practice on a regular base. Idiots will be idiots.

Next good point is about feeling out the vibe of the session asap. If it feels off, call it off. This was my mistake here. I noticed her cold stare but I was wishful thinking that it would get better. Nope. It only got worse. This is the lesson to be learned.

Lastly, I agree that if the girl honors her menu and had reasonable attitude, and even though her skills sucks, the BJ was painful, she smelled like a dead fish, sounded like a dying donkey, didn't look quite like her pics, but the guy did the deed already, he should pay. This has definitely happened to me.

The girl was subpar, an unsatisfactory experience, yet I always paid them in full because that's what's agreed on.

However, I will let the fellas know to dodge a downer. That's just how it should go.

[Lexx1]

Guys let's all squash this already and get on to better things.

I've been reading all the back and forth and I try my best to see things from everyone's point of view. From my personal experiences I do believe in quality of service provided as promised by the provider but also believe that if you did get sucked and fucked and nutted the provider should still get paid some money but not all as previously agreed. Since they did not provide all services as promised. I've done this with street pros, UTRs and sometimes non-pros but more with Pros / UTRs. Once the menu is discussed and a price agreed upon I'll let them know if the menu isn't fully provided I'll withhold some cash and let them know how much. It's up to them then to agree to that or not. If they don't then I just leave or just never meet up. I've had what I thought were non-pros try to upsell me on the day of the meet after we already discussed everything. I had a hot as fuck Persian UTR who I thought was a non-pro do that to me in the room. I have a hard max I spend and I wasn't going to spend more. So I told her nope and cancelled the meeting and luckily it wasn't to late to get my money back on the room. I've said it before I don't care how hot a provider is I don't spend more than my hard max. So if you already get a bad vibe from the provider and things don't feel good. Just leave and don't go through with it.

In this case SuelyBrah already has said he realized he accidentally didn't pay her and tried to make it right with the provider. But I believe there were already bad vibes between them right from the start of the meeting. I personally would have just canceled and left. Because I've been in situations like this before and know how it's going to end with crappy service. But I believe him that he tried to make it right but those bad vibes from the beginning really got to her and she's blocked him and washed herself of the situation. And I believe all of us here discussing this should just drop it as well and stop all this back and forth bickering. Move on! So much pussy out there no need to keep discussing this.

Peace!

[James D 2004]

You're a simp. That's all there is to it. She not going to fuck you for free for siding with her LOL.

I was asking you a question, "Should we force a refund if the service is unsatisfactory? You know the answer, the rule of the Continental Hotel. Whatever names you call don't relate to the issue at hand. He cum, didn't pay.

[HoeWhisperer]

"I've seen Sabrina and I doubt that she had an attitude or was rude. ".

Simping aint easy is it? Guys like you are the reason why these 304 can get away with having GSP, attitude, and trash service. Grow a backbone. Stand up to what is yours. If a provider gives you a bad time, speak up. I bet you just shut your mouth and walk out like a puppy. If more guys actually did something, say something about the bad service, we all would benefit and have a great time, as it should be. But nope. Instead of standing up for standards and a brother monger, you choose to simp.
These providers know you won't do anything. So they repeat the same shit to the next guy.

And know the definition of stealing and robbing first. Then we can have a real conversation.

You changed my words in your post. I said "I don't doubt she had an attitude". Don't try slick shit like that. She's not a great provider but you completed the session and didn't pay. You stole. That's what stealing is. It doesn't matter what your "intent" was, and honestly it sounds like you did it on purpose. You forgot you picked up the money after you put it down? Right.

[SuelyBrah]

Whatever makes you feel better is fine. Think what you want to think. Justification and rationalization are powerful things. The people who have posted the same thoughts on you and your actions, (or lack thereof in the this case), incl myself, we are all wrong. You are right.

SMH.

So now you are appealing the number. Just cause the "majority" are saying something, it must be they're right.

Centuries ago, just about everyone thought the sun revolves around the earth. I'm sure they were right. "SMH. ".

Stupid kids these days can't think for themselves so they think as a mob, such bravery.

I have said this before and I'll repeat again, you and other mongers who've been simping need to have standards and expectation. You need to hold these 304 to a standard. Hold the damn line. You don't let them get away with dogshit service and attitude when you are paying them for a good time.

[GimmeMoreHead]

Give it up if you can't answer the question, only calling names.

You're a simp. That's all there is to it. She not going to fuck you for free for siding with her LOL.