"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**Tribeca67** · 08-30-23 11:21

Any info on this one?

**TopGun9** · 08-30-23 08:58

Anyone else having issue upgrading membership with SDM?

I tried Vanilla Prepaid card, Visa credit card, and Discover card. Nothing goes through.

This is the error message I got.

"We were unable to process your subscription. Please make sure your bank authorizes this transaction. ".

**WialdThang** · 08-29-23 22:50

Originally Posted by DiscreetMeet [View Original Post]

So, my very long term SB decided to move so I'm on the hunt for a new one. Does anyone have info on this one?

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...8-e30faa2b0ab3

Or if you have a recommendation of one about like this one I'd be greatful for some info.

She's definitely my type but one does wonder.

Thanks in advance.

Stay Safe,

DM.

I had brief chat with her threw text, she ask for $$$ no specifics mentioned except for she could not host. I passed!

**DiscreetMeet** · 08-29-23 17:23

So, my very long term SB decided to move so I'm on the hunt for a new one. Does anyone have info on this one?

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...8-e30faa2b0ab3

Or if you have a recommendation of one about like this one I'd be greatful for some info.

She's definitely my type but one does wonder.

Thanks in advance.

Stay Safe,

DM.

**DrSummer** · 08-29-23 16:15

VWO33 RBELT1.

Just used it today. 33% off. Remove the space (this site adds it for some reason).

Dr. S.

**Doctor Sugar** · 08-29-23 14:59

Just started messaging Southerndoll. Anyone have the scoop on her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...3-d0ff0c12ffbe

**FarFarAway** · 08-29-23 13:40

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

Click my name and scroll past the first page of my post history and scan through the next 2-3 pages. I've posted a lot of my tips / tricks / negotation tactics. I've been balls deep in a TON of hot 20-30 year olds for between 200 plus hotel or 300 if they host. I've had a lot of success in the Atlanta area with those rates. Do I nail every potential I message? Of course not, more than a few never go anywhere. I've also noticed that girls with the "alt girl" or "hippie girl" look tend to be more reasonable allowance than the wannabe Insta-models. Which is lucky for me because I absolutely have a thing for the alt girl look.

I have another success story, but it isn't technique, it can be luck. But YK the saying about luck = preparation + opportunity.

I M&G a 25 YO, blond, slim, had a nice chat by phone. She has had two arrangements in the past, 'arranged' by a female friend who had experience. She was a little concerned about my being married, but reflected and decided my situation justified my behavior. We got comfortable w / coffee and took it to my car for the A / C. Conversation was frank and wide-ranging. We agreed about the sexual parameters, and when I asked her about finances, she was very non-committal, and basically said whatever I wanted to give her was fine. Her past SDs, one was all about just buying her what she needed, the other was all allowance all the time. I got a brainstorm, asked if she saw herself as a hippie, she agreed strongly. I plan on catering to her biases, w / some gifts, some flattery, and some cash. I asked what she enjoyed most sexually, she could not come up w / anything. This poor girl, she hasn't been treated well by her past SBs. For sure if you aren't getting the girl to wilt in bed by your wiles, you'll have trouble in the sugar bowl. I gave her a Sephora gift card, she swooned. I just offered to buy her a plan at a nail salon (hers looked ragged, and I really like to see a nice manicure on my girl), and she swooned again.

I had met another hippie girl at this exact same coffee place about a year ago, she also said whatever I gave her was fine. I think I went w / 250. She was just OK, body not up to my usual preference, so it was a 1-timer. She still texts me.

**NewAnonymousName** · 08-29-23 05:36

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

She's legit but if you ask her to host before the first date it's a huge turn off for her. She's a little high considering age and has the beginnings of a muffin top. I think I got her to agree to 350 if she hosted or 300 if I got a hotel, but I could tell she wasn't real happy that I was preferring that she host. Since she was higher than I thought reasonable for someone who couldn't host I never really followed up.

Thanks for the info. Did you learn her menu of dos and don'ts before your discussion ended?

**GoneForGood97** · 08-29-23 00:52

Originally Posted by Verdit [View Original Post]

Sometimes I'll chat with a girl on SA who checks all the boxes, but her ask amount for PPM is too high for what I'm willing to pay.

Normally, I'll just politely decline without a counter. However, a couple of times that I have countered the girl gets offended that I'm not willing to pay the amount she wants.

So what have been SUCCESSFUL negotiation tactics you've used to get a girl down from a high dollar amount to something you're comfortable with paying?

Click my name and scroll past the first page of my post history and scan through the next 2-3 pages. I've posted a lot of my tips / tricks / negotation tactics. I've been balls deep in a TON of hot 20-30 year olds for between 200 plus hotel or 300 if they host. I've had a lot of success in the Atlanta area with those rates. Do I nail every potential I message? Of course not, more than a few never go anywhere. I've also noticed that girls with the "alt girl" or "hippie girl" look tend to be more reasonable allowance than the wannabe Insta-models. Which is lucky for me because I absolutely have a thing for the alt girl look.

As other guys have said, a big part of it is not moving staight to allowance talk, but spend an evening or 2 texting getting to know them, find out what they like and what their interests are. Eventually steer the conversation sexual, then find out what they enjoy sexually. Ask about things they like such as their favorite position (doggie) and don't like (anal). Once you have a few things they don't like, keep those in the back of your mind when you bring up the allowance. Ask what she's looking for, if she gives a sky high number, tell her that you'd only pay that much for someone who would do <insert things she doesn't like here> . Doesn't matter if anal isn't your thing, or if you don't like rough sex and neither does she, or if you were going to use a condom anyways: when negotiating, the things she dislikes are now things you like, but you want to respect her wishes, so you'll happily keep to her "things she enjoys" but for <insert reasonable allowance here>, or you'll use protection but that would be a different amount than for someone who is ok without it.

There's also the old "jedi mind trick". They ask for something too high, like 500 PPM. Tell them you can do that, but you can only see them once or twice a month for that PPM. If she could do 300 PPM then you could see her 4 times a month, and 4 x300 is more than 2 x500. Would she rather have $1200 a month or $1000 a month? Adjust the math to make the amount make sense within your budget. Of course if she's too skyhigh, then just move on.

**GoneForGood97** · 08-29-23 00:37

Originally Posted by NewAnonymousName [View Original Post]

BadGirlNextDoor has been on the site for a year. But I couldn't find a review by searching her name. Have any of you seen her? Is she legit? Will you give us a review?

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...f-b3b221fc7a35

She's legit but if you ask her to host before the first date it's a huge turn off for her. She's a little high considering age and has the beginnings of a muffin top. I think I got her to agree to 350 if she hosted or 300 if I got a hotel, but I could tell she wasn't real happy that I was preferring that she host. Since she was higher than I thought reasonable for someone who couldn't host I never really followed up.

**FarFarAway** · 08-28-23 16:29

Originally Posted by Hal1957 [View Original Post]

I'm in the bowl for reliable companionship, so I engage in extended text conversation for several days before suggesting the (unpaid) m / g. No discussion of PPM or allowance until after the m / g. If she pushes for the PPM or allowance before the m / g then it's going to be all about the money so I block and move on. If the PPM ask is outrageous, block and move on. If the PPM ask is high, I explain "that's a bit much for this area, but I would be willing to go (about two-thirds of her ask). I've found the extended text conversation establishes a bond that makes my offer more acceptable. After that, I'm most interested in the vibe. Was the first intimate rushed and full of rules or was it an extended evening or even overnight? Now we're ready to entertain long-term conditions.

This sounds similar to my tactic. I am also looking for ongoing. A girl ought to be willing to take less per if she knows she is getting on the gravy train. So, I never negotiate before the M&G. Nothing. That's for escorts. My approach has its advantages. People are more sensitive to rejection to their face. They get brave behind a keyboard. Hence, all of the flame wars online. A girl will ask less to avoid rejection if she is sitting in your car (and you have your hand on her twat). I also get girls committed to meeting at the M&G by asking them to book the room (through one of the daytime room apps). If she is willing to do that, to ensure that she isn't going to get stiffed (even though those apps permit you to cancel without penalty), I often will give her a benjie. I have lost those on occasion, when we didn't end up going to the FC, but mostly the ones I have selected through my judicious vetting process come through. That is great for me, no risk of a paper trail, and the girl even sometimes does not realize her name may end up on the TV in the room, so I get her IRL identity.

My exact situation is a plus in negotiating, also. I am hiding the sugar from the warden. Even though I (correctly) look quite rich on my profile, I explain why that isn't all available to give an allowance. The typical I have given (in the high cost environment of the west coast) is 400. I had a long-term girl I was giving 1 K / mo for usually 3 private meets, but we really were sympatico. On her shark weeks, we would just get together for coffee instead of going to the FC. I have gone to 500 for an initial FC (w / the understanding that the monthly would be prorated downward), and once for an incredibly hot woman did 600. I had a power business woman for a while earlier this year at 500 per, she was smoking hot and loved to get dolled up for our dates.

Don't doubt that my approach can get you incredibly hot and engaged women to bang, even for a guy in his 60's. I have posted some photos from time to time of my conquests.

**KingHorama2** · 08-28-23 15:22

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...6-b6ec0c85bfb1

Got a date with this MILF tomorrow and wanted to see if anyone has any experience.

We were supposed to have a m&g but she had something come up and now moving straight to fun.

**NewAnonymousName** · 08-28-23 12:57

BadGirlNextDoor has been on the site for a year. But I couldn't find a review by searching her name. Have any of you seen her? Is she legit? Will you give us a review?

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...f-b3b221fc7a35

**Hal1957** · 08-28-23 07:59

I'm in the bowl for reliable companionship, so I engage in extended text conversation for several days before suggesting the (unpaid) m / g. No discussion of PPM or allowance until after the m / g. If she pushes for the PPM or allowance before the m / g then it's going to be all about the money so I block and move on. If the PPM ask is outrageous, block and move on. If the PPM ask is high, I explain "that's a bit much for this area, but I would be willing to go (about two-thirds of her ask). I've found the extended text conversation establishes a bond that makes my offer more acceptable. After that, I'm most interested in the vibe. Was the first intimate rushed and full of rules or was it an extended evening or even overnight? Now we're ready to entertain long-term conditions.

Originally Posted by Verdit [View Original Post]

Sometimes I'll chat with a girl on SA who checks all the boxes, but her ask amount for PPM is too high for what I'm willing to pay.

Normally, I'll just politely decline without a counter. However, a couple of times that I have countered the girl gets offended that I'm not willing to pay the amount she wants.

So what have been SUCCESSFUL negotiation tactics you've used to get a girl down from a high dollar amount to something you're comfortable with paying?

**SalvatoreIttup** · 08-28-23 02:48

Originally Posted by ElSexoChino7 [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/f...e-cef1af11430c

She was down to meet but I don't really trust any profile if it's not verified. I don't care how hot your photos are if it's going to be catfish. Thought I'd share it here to see if anyone had experience with her before.

Mara isn't a catfish. Definitely very real, with nice face and body. However, she has been a high-volume listcrawler escort for awhile, and likes to do as little as possible for as quick as possible for the most $$ some sucker will offer up. She got me for her mechanical bs service once a few years ago, but never wanted to see her again afterwards, as I prefer SBs over straight escorts.