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  1. #4609
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    Posts: 15

    Another reason why negotiating in the VIP is a bad idea

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperFreakOMG3  [View Original Post]
    Looks like when we get bamboozled / robbed / jacked of our hard-earned money, general trend is because we don't negotiate out on the floor. Floor meaning, the general viewing area facing the stage.

    Once you're in the back you have lost ALL LEVERAGE. You're already in 'Sunk-Cost Fallacy' meaning you've already paid for the VIP and now at the mercy of the dancer and what she wants to charge. The little head speaks for the big head. Sure you've enjoyed yourself, but on that long drive back home you're just counting all the money that could've been saved towards your mortgage / rent / car payment / junior's new baseball glove.

    I can't emphasize this enough, boys.

    DO YOUR NEGOTIATING ON THE FLOOR! Particularly with girls you have no rapport with / girls you've never danced with prior. Know exactly what you're receiving as the customer, what the dancer is doing as a provider, and the exact amount of money / cash / green / paper / duckets / lettuce / bread / skrill / moolah involved between both parties. Do this before even standing up to go pay for the VIP. Trust me, it hurts a lot more thinking about the money you lost than it is when you see her walk away dissatisfied with the price you want.

    I'm at a point where I have a rotation of enjoyable dancers where we both know what's up and don't need to negotiate. If I'm bored or a newbie catches my eye, I'll revert to the above tip. If you got the looks and / or skills to negotiate in the VIP, roll the dice.

    I'm of the opinion any dancer could charge whatever she wants (Freedom of Choice). I'm also of the opinion that any customer can say yes / no / negotiate (Freedom of Choice.).
    I've had the dancer use majority of VIP time before negotiating for extras. I made this mistake once and never again. Beware out there fellas. They are ruthless.

  2. #4608

    Safari at Synn

    She's delusional. Walks up to me and asked me if I want a dance, I've heard stories about her so I figured I would test the water. I said I only do VIP, she's like oh perfect me too. Then she asked well how much you think I'm worth to go back to VIP. My reply was, oh you're one of those then I'm good I am not in the mood for aVIP after all. She gets up all pissed and tells me not to waste her time. I replied, hun you came to me, so get it straight, you're the one wasting people's time and *k blocking. Very delusional gal for sure.

  3. #4607

    Same experience with Kaylani

    Quote Originally Posted by Carx16  [View Original Post]
    Yes, I been in the VIP with her awhile back and she talks a big game but I was disappointed overall with the experience. I first had a dance with her to get the vibe and she was very flirty and friendly. So I question about the VIP and she said $$ for us to have "a lot of fun". This was my fault for not asking what exactly "fun" was because I was enjoying what I thought was a good vibe. So we got the $120 VIP option and started to get friendly. She grab my guy and went for a HJ and started teasing for a BJ but then told me its $ more and $$ total for FS. I guess I got too comfortable with the club and ignored clarifying the terms beforehand because previous girls who mention their standard price usually includes BJ + FS. I was complete turn off by the up sell that I only tipped her the $ for the HJ and ended my VIP relatively early. I later got a VIP with VIKKI which I knew would be a guarantee good time.

    Hopefully your experience fairs better than mine with her. Best of luck to ya.
    I had a similar experience with Kaylani. So I negotiate when I'm getting a dance and she tells me it's $$ for fun in the VIP. Then once we're in the VIP she tells me it's only for a HJ. I was so pissed. Every other girls it means FS. This girl had the audacity to ask me to come back. I could've stayed at home and saved myself money.

  4. #4606
    Quote Originally Posted by IntoNOut  [View Original Post]
    I wonder how others have experienced sessions with Nikki. For me, it's intense. Lots of DFK, full on pounding and just straight passionate. The only downside with her is all the make-up (especially lipstick). I went to the bathroom after and I looked like darth maul in the process of removing his make up. Ridiculous. Still pretty worth it considering the experience.

    As my title referenced, though, I saw Victoria for the first time dancing on stage. That little one is pretty hot. Anyone have any experiences with her worth noting. She doesn't come off as high mileage, but I've never even talked with her.
    How is Nikki in comparison to all the other girls, I saw she's part of the early shift and got curious about her, what's her body like, does she have more ass than vikki and sky?

  5. #4605
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperFreakOMG3  [View Original Post]
    Looks like when we get bamboozled / robbed / jacked of our hard-earned money, general trend is because we don't negotiate out on the floor….snip…I'm of the opinion any dancer could charge whatever she wants (Freedom of Choice). I'm also of the opinion that any customer can say yes / no / negotiate (Freedom of Choice.).
    True, all that. ROBs you can't really do anything about: they just lie to you on the floor, and don't honor the express deal. It happens. The best you can do is eat them out, name names, on this forum. Hurt their business by warning the next sucker-to-be.

    I've walked away from sooo many dancers. And sometimes it hurts, they're so hot & ready. But it's about living with myself. And most of the time they see in the club often, you get dances from other girls, they know you spend, so the next time the offer is lower or more negotiable.

    But that plan never worked on The Crew: they had pricing discipline LOL. And a bevy of sucker simps who'd pay their GPS rates. And not just rookies or newbies. Getting the best price takes practice, but some guys just never catch on. More money than sense, as me Pappy used to say.

  6. #4604
    Quote Originally Posted by SuperFreakOMG3  [View Original Post]
    Looks like when we get bamboozled / robbed / jacked of our hard-earned money, general trend is because we don't negotiate out on the floor. Floor meaning, the general viewing area facing the stage.

    Once you're in the back you have lost ALL LEVERAGE. You're already in 'Sunk-Cost Fallacy' meaning you've already paid for the VIP and now at the mercy of the dancer and what she wants to charge. The little head speaks for the big head. Sure you've enjoyed yourself, but on that long drive back home you're just counting all the money that could've been saved towards your mortgage / rent / car payment / junior's new baseball glove.

    I can't emphasize this enough, boys.

    DO YOUR NEGOTIATING ON THE FLOOR! Particularly with girls you have no rapport with / girls you've never danced with prior. Know exactly what you're receiving as the customer, what the dancer is doing as a provider, and the exact amount of money / cash / green / paper / duckets / lettuce / bread / skrill / moolah involved between both parties. Do this before even standing up to go pay for the VIP. Trust me, it hurts a lot more thinking about the money you lost than it is when you see her walk away dissatisfied with the price you want.

    I'm at a point where I have a rotation of enjoyable dancers where we both know what's up and don't need to negotiate. If I'm bored or a newbie catches my eye, I'll revert to the above tip. If you got the looks and / or skills to negotiate in the VIP, roll the dice.

    I'm of the opinion any dancer could charge whatever she wants (Freedom of Choice). I'm also of the opinion that any customer can say yes / no / negotiate (Freedom of Choice.).
    Fact! But these mistakes that are happening are clearly rookie mistakes being done by newbie please to the game. The vets here are not making the same rookie mistakes.

  7. #4603

    Something I've noticed with recent posts.

    Looks like when we get bamboozled / robbed / jacked of our hard-earned money, general trend is because we don't negotiate out on the floor. Floor meaning, the general viewing area facing the stage.

    Once you're in the back you have lost ALL LEVERAGE. You're already in 'Sunk-Cost Fallacy' meaning you've already paid for the VIP and now at the mercy of the dancer and what she wants to charge. The little head speaks for the big head. Sure you've enjoyed yourself, but on that long drive back home you're just counting all the money that could've been saved towards your mortgage / rent / car payment / junior's new baseball glove.

    I can't emphasize this enough, boys.

    DO YOUR NEGOTIATING ON THE FLOOR! Particularly with girls you have no rapport with / girls you've never danced with prior. Know exactly what you're receiving as the customer, what the dancer is doing as a provider, and the exact amount of money / cash / green / paper / duckets / lettuce / bread / skrill / moolah involved between both parties. Do this before even standing up to go pay for the VIP. Trust me, it hurts a lot more thinking about the money you lost than it is when you see her walk away dissatisfied with the price you want.

    I'm at a point where I have a rotation of enjoyable dancers where we both know what's up and don't need to negotiate. If I'm bored or a newbie catches my eye, I'll revert to the above tip. If you got the looks and / or skills to negotiate in the VIP, roll the dice.

    I'm of the opinion any dancer could charge whatever she wants (Freedom of Choice). I'm also of the opinion that any customer can say yes / no / negotiate (Freedom of Choice.).

  8. #4602

    Info on Tenderoni

    Quote Originally Posted by SeanKonnery  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone had anyone had a chance to get the low down on Tenderoni? This chicken is stacked! In the process of manscaping my balls right now to see if the smash is right LOL.
    Yes, I been in the VIP with her awhile back and she talks a big game but I was disappointed overall with the experience. I first had a dance with her to get the vibe and she was very flirty and friendly. So I question about the VIP and she said $$ for us to have "a lot of fun". This was my fault for not asking what exactly "fun" was because I was enjoying what I thought was a good vibe. So we got the $120 VIP option and started to get friendly. She grab my guy and went for a HJ and started teasing for a BJ but then told me its $ more and $$ total for FS. I guess I got too comfortable with the club and ignored clarifying the terms beforehand because previous girls who mention their standard price usually includes BJ + FS. I was complete turn off by the up sell that I only tipped her the $ for the HJ and ended my VIP relatively early. I later got a VIP with VIKKI which I knew would be a guarantee good time.

    Hopefully your experience fairs better than mine with her. Best of luck to ya.

  9. #4601
    Quote Originally Posted by CaseyX  [View Original Post]
    There are girls who mean that sincerely and who will actually follow through with bringing the other dancer to you. I have had a couple of really good VIPs come out of this kind of encounter. But it's all in the delivery. Most of the time she's trying to call bullshit and is getting pissy. I don't usually use that line unless I really am waiting or trying to find a particular dancer. Easier to just say, no thanks.
    I can feel her anger at the time, but thanks for the tip. I normally say "no thanks" but SYNNCOI girls seems to say" you waiting for someone?" as starters, so I just go with it.

  10. #4600

    Synn Night Shift

    Anyone has any intel on the new arrivals at Synn they care to share. Any of them down for Out Of The Club or FS? Thanks. I'll share also if I have any personal experience with them once I do my next round there.

    And for those who care to know. Bailey is great in VIP and in my own personal experience regardless of what she has quoted me outside the club, which I have politely declined, she is great in VIP ma very fun experience at a very reasonable amount.

  11. #4599
    Quote Originally Posted by BlueNose723  [View Original Post]
    I wish I knew about this forum prior to my visit a couple of weeks ago, as I think I was overly charged for extras. I'm new to the scene here as it's different in the UK, and I think the girl figured out.

    ...

    I enjoyed my first experience but I was over charged reading the other experiences below. I know that I have so please no hate. I've learnt my lesson!

    However, thought I would share my first experience in a US club.
    Andrea really is good at finding marks, as it were. Here's my Andrea story. A number of years ago when I was pretty new to this scene I ran into her at Tropical Lei. She looked great, was very personable when she approached and then gave a great lap dance so naturally I said yes to a VIP. But I neglected to discuss the details before going back there. We go into the VIP, she closes the curtain, gets naked and then encourages me to take my pants off. Only then, did she ask what I wanted to do while lightly touching my dick. It's TL so naturally I suggested FS. She says something or other about that being really expensive and then suggests a blowjob for $400. I was stunned. This is a club and time where I usually paid $250 for FS. But she had me in a bad situation to negotiate, with my dick out and a naked, buxom blonde next to me. Somehow I managed to keep the little head in check enough to get her down to $250. It was good but I still left frustrated that I'd paid as much as did.

    Chalk it up as a lesson learned and try not to make the same mistake again. And hey, there are worse mistakes to make in life than overpaying for a blowjob.

  12. #4598
    Quote Originally Posted by TomMajor  [View Original Post]
    One time she came to me, and I politely rejected her by saying "I'm waiting for someone", unlike other girls who just leaving, she looked me dead in the eye and saying " who? What's her name, I can tell her to come" which does not sound friendly at all.
    There are girls who mean that sincerely and who will actually follow through with bringing the other dancer to you. I have had a couple of really good VIPs come out of this kind of encounter. But it's all in the delivery. Most of the time she's trying to call bullshit and is getting pissy. I don't usually use that line unless I really am waiting or trying to find a particular dancer. Easier to just say, no thanks.

  13. #4597
    Quote Originally Posted by IntoNOut  [View Original Post]
    I wonder how others have experienced sessions with Nikki. For me, it's intense. Lots of DFK, full on pounding and just straight passionate. The only downside with her is all the make-up (especially lipstick). I went to the bathroom after and I looked like darth maul in the process of removing his make up. Ridiculous. Still pretty worth it considering the experience.

    As my title referenced, though, I saw Victoria for the first time dancing on stage. That little one is pretty hot. Anyone have any experiences with her worth noting. She doesn't come off as high mileage, but I've never even talked with her.
    I had a dance with her that was uneventful but she was pleasant. I'm curious to hear if she offered extras during a VIP visit. Anyone? A trip down memory lane at Paradise with the Victoria pre pandemic was always exciting. I do miss some of those girls.

  14. #4596

    Victoria Paradise

    I wonder how others have experienced sessions with Nikki. For me, it's intense. Lots of DFK, full on pounding and just straight passionate. The only downside with her is all the make-up (especially lipstick). I went to the bathroom after and I looked like darth maul in the process of removing his make up. Ridiculous. Still pretty worth it considering the experience.

    As my title referenced, though, I saw Victoria for the first time dancing on stage. That little one is pretty hot. Anyone have any experiences with her worth noting. She doesn't come off as high mileage, but I've never even talked with her.

  15. #4595
    Quote Originally Posted by Roland2418  [View Original Post]
    I think this kind of thing is become more common with Asian dancers these days. They know they are a rare commodity in the clubs so push the limits of what they can get away with. You have June, Safari, Malaysia, Fiji, Catherine, Cora all asking ridiculous rates. There's a report of Fiji on tuscl trying to force a tip out of a guy and threatening to tell the mgmt he mistreated her if he didn't pay up. Hopefully guys start to wise up and freeze them out until the market corrects them. There are a couple still in the reasonable range - Jhene, Pia, Emme - others?
    Its the first time I heard such thing about Fiji, but I'm not surprised.

    One time she came to me, and I politely rejected her by saying "I'm waiting for someone", unlike other girls who just leaving, she looked me dead in the eye and saying " who? What's her name, I can tell her to come" which does not sound friendly at all.

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