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  1. #10459
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    Posts: 473
    Quote Originally Posted by JediNY  [View Original Post]
    Yuri is back in New York with XOXO beginning tomorrow.
    Good! That place needs quality new girls desperately, xoxo is obviously the redheaded step child of the SE / RisingSun group. Those 2 other places have began a weird tactic lately girls at RisingSun are on NYSE's site I figured they will book the girl for then tell you to go to the other address but nope. I tried booking the 'Latina' Japanese girl Aria today at NYCSE they told me to call RisingSun and book with them directly.

  2. #10458

    Oh wow, you're really coming after me today

    Quote Originally Posted by Ewe52  [View Original Post]
    I don't think you have any idea what you're even talking about. A 20 yr old Japanese girls is fresher than a 20 yr old Korean or Chinese?
    Where did I say that in my post? But more importantly, where are you finding a 20 year old Chinese or Korean pro in NYC? Doesn't exist in Manhattan, but Japanese does. I am just sharing my observations based on my relatively short experience with this hobby in Manhattan, Flushing and NNJ. Sorry if I triggered you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ewe52  [View Original Post]
    LOL Japanese are probably the most promiscuous of the 3 cultures most likely the reason spas can find 18-24 yrs Jgirls who are willing to come here and bang complete strangers to finance a new lap dog, and not young Koreans or Chinese. A lot more mileage on these jgirls than you think. Probably not as much as a working latina though.
    There are plenty of young Chinese and Korean girls willing to bang complete strangers to finance a new lap dog too LOL. They just don't work in NYC. Having said that, I don't disagree that Japanese are the most promiscuous. They're probably the most open to fucking foreign men as well. This doesn't necessarily mean they're the most trained on though.

    There are always more miles on these girls we think. I have no illusions about that, don't get the wrong idea. When I use the word fresh, I am talking "fresh". It's all relative, and I haven't seen any Chinese or Korean pros in NYC who felt quite as "fresh" as Manhattan Japanese. Maybe that upsets you, but it is what it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ewe52  [View Original Post]
    Can see money is tight for you in your recent posts you probably should spend more time making it and banging out the 'fresh' ones instead of writing up misguided social observations.
    Not sure where you would get that idea or why you feel the need to personally attack me. But maybe take it down a notch before I hit the ignore button on you, just as other notable thread members already have.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ewe52  [View Original Post]
    I think it's a big mistake to do that. Offering 20 min alternatives to be more affordable to budget minded customers will bring in lower quality of service, higher upgrades prices, and who knows what sorts of clowns will start popping up both on the provider and consumer side. IMHO they shouldn't even have a 30 min option, the cost of high quality service should be reflective in the price. PPC must be in its death throws.
    You are starting to sound like a bit of an elitist. How nice. I don't like the new 20 minute option either, but for different reasons from you. I just don't think it's practical. Definitely wouldn't be enough time for me to finish. You barely get 10 minutes of fucking. For me 30 minutes is the limit, 45 the perfect medium but an hour is a waste since I don't two pop.

    Having a 30 minute option is good for mongers, gives us more flexibility and more pussies. I can bang two different girls in one day for about $480 rather than doing an hour with one girl for $400. Plus if I break the sessions up like that, I can get two pops. I used to do hour only then eventually realized it's sorta wasteful and favors the girl. Not all of these ladies are worthy of the full hour. And with so many different girls to fuck, plus all the duds out there, do you really want to be forced to buy the full hour every time?

  3. #10457
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    Posts: 473
    Quote Originally Posted by JediNY  [View Original Post]
    I recall reading some girls refuse to do 30-minute sessions. That's understandable if the girl wants to do full GFE hour instead of a quick 30-minute fuck session. For the popular girls, getting fucked every 30-minutes is bad enough. I don't think they want to be fucked every 20-minutes. If they implement the 20-minutes, I think the popular less money hungry girls will opt out. Then what you have left are the money hungry types.
    100 percent spot on!

  4. #10456

    Yuri is back

    Yuri is back in New York with XOXO beginning tomorrow.

  5. #10455
    Quote Originally Posted by RogRank2755  [View Original Post]
    First visited NYAF in last year and was hooked, visited once a month,*sometimes more depending on cash. Then I was gone from the city for a while. In FL and GA, humidasfuck, no good AMPs, less said the better. Got back a month ago and spent several times at NYAF over a bunch of visits. More dollars than I've spent anywhere else in my life, but NYAF never disappoints, prices are upfront with no upsell, and I got so much stress and juice after sweating my balls off down south. Its pricier but I always leave getting exactly what I wanted and usually more.

    Here's my Top 4. I've seen each multiple times. All do BBFS for extra and they tend to go above-and-beyond when they see the customer more than once.

    1. Azu. New Japanese girl. Boss says she started last month (can you guys confirm? Incredibly young (maybe mid20's), petite but with a good butt and big smile. After first time gloved I went BBFS and it was totally worth the extra. Actually drooled down her chin and neck while I powered her from behind. When I unloaded once, she spent ten minutes rubbing the cum in her pussy and licking her fingers. Jeezuz! Genuine GFE*+ PSE*+ maybe an actual*nympho. Best fuck of my old life, maybe my ATF.

    2. Lucy. But Lucy is the close second and most of you know why. Thin and petite that you can lift and toss*around, which is good for me because I'm short. Treat her right and generous and you can do anything. Her grind and BJs (DT) are amazing, I've gone pussy-to-mouth-to-pussy, rinse and repeat. Might need to put Azu and Lucy in same room and do side-by-side comparison.

    3. Zoe. The session I did with Lucy and Zoe was highlight of my life. Again some of you know what I mean. Unlike some other pairs, they genuinely like each other and seem to get into it, licking kissing and fingering each other. That just makes the whole experience amazing as fuck. When I blew into Zoe, Lucy cleaned up with her tongue. I've done 1 on1 with Zoe a couple times: she's taller than I usually do (I'm barely 5. 5), but sweet, soft, bigger boobs and ass, always affectionate and reliable.
    Oh Carry and Cherry. I believe YMMV COP.

  6. #10454
    Quote Originally Posted by RogRank2755  [View Original Post]
    First visited NYAF in last year and was hooked, visited once a month,*sometimes more depending on cash. Then I was gone from the city for a while. In FL and GA, humidasfuck, no good AMPs, less said the better. Got back a month ago and spent several times at NYAF over a bunch of visits. More dollars than I've spent anywhere else in my life, but NYAF never disappoints, prices are upfront with no upsell, and I got so much stress and juice after sweating my balls off down south. Its pricier but I always leave getting exactly what I wanted and usually more.

    Here's my Top 4. I've seen each multiple times. All do BBFS for extra and they tend to go above-and-beyond when they see the customer more than once.

    1. Azu. New Japanese girl. Boss says she started last month (can you guys confirm? Incredibly young (maybe mid20's), petite but with a good butt and big smile. After first time gloved I went BBFS and it was totally worth the extra. Actually drooled down her chin and neck while I powered her from behind. When I unloaded once, she spent ten minutes rubbing the cum in her pussy and licking her fingers. Jeezuz! Genuine GFE*+ PSE*+ maybe an actual*nympho. Best fuck of my old life, maybe my ATF.
    Helen has always advertised CIP to everyone. Greek is YMMV. I think the Chinese girls you mentioned have a certain degree of YMMV, COP and CIP.

  7. #10453
    Quote Originally Posted by Ewe52  [View Original Post]
    I think it's a big mistake to do that. Offering 20 min alternatives to be more affordable to budget minded customers will bring in lower quality of service, higher upgrades prices, and who knows what sorts of clowns will start popping up both on the provider and consumer side. IMHO they shouldn't even have a 30 min option, the cost of high quality service should be reflective in the price. PPC must be in its death throws.
    I recall reading some girls refuse to do 30-minute sessions. That's understandable if the girl wants to do full GFE hour instead of a quick 30-minute fuck session. For the popular girls, getting fucked every 30-minutes is bad enough. I don't think they want to be fucked every 20-minutes. If they implement the 20-minutes, I think the popular less money hungry girls will opt out. Then what you have left are the money hungry types.

  8. #10452
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    Posts: 473
    Quote Originally Posted by IronClad999  [View Original Post]
    Pretty sure sooner or later, it'll be funny if the major top brands will follow suit with 15-20 min options like xoxo / nycse /1010/ RS (risingsun) LOL. Basically can jump the whole house menu of chicks for 20 minutes if they all bored while the rain pours outside and they're only staring at TV's with no men cushions LOL.
    I think it's a big mistake to do that. Offering 20 min alternatives to be more affordable to budget minded customers will bring in lower quality of service, higher upgrades prices, and who knows what sorts of clowns will start popping up both on the provider and consumer side. IMHO they shouldn't even have a 30 min option, the cost of high quality service should be reflective in the price. PPC must be in its death throws.

  9. #10451

    Quality vs Age vs Beauty Vs Service

    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    LOL I am not into little girls WTF man. But it is a fact that younger women are objectively better. Pussies are tighter and the girls are prettier.

    You always mention this point about aging. I think Japanese women age just fine, plenty of JAVs look fucking great into their mid 30's. Saying "Korean and Chinese women age better" is a shitty way to rationalize paying $380 H for one of the milfs at KGs when you could have Japanese college girl for less. But hey, to each his own.

    I think age and quality are one in the same. Quality is basically age, beauty and service taken together. But Japanese pros have another big advantage IMO, one which never seems to get mentioned: some of them actually feel fresh and new to the business, with a bit of a civie feel. Whereas Chinese and Korean girls are often living in the US, doing this work full time for years, and it shows.
    I personally don't think age and quality are the same so as beauty and service. I would categorize age / beauty together and quality / service together. To each person to their own, but beauty falls in the eye of the beholder. For example you think the younger are hot, but I prefer the slightly older more mature looking girls where as quality can mean physical traits or GFE service. A good GFE service can easily be categorized as a quality experience, but you cannot put beauty and service together as we all know there is many hot looking girls where the service just sucks ass. You're statement of civie feel could fall under quality as their life style isn't about this industry or service that they feel natural. I specifically didn't mention the race of girls but more so the common factors of all girls because this is what it boils down to.

    IMO the 3 categories needed to determine your girl are: Age / Beauty, Quality / Service and PRICE. Needs to hit 2/3 to make a good session, and hitting 3/3 is where you find the unicorn, of course this is to each their own. My personal 3/3 examples would be Hana V2 XoXo, Apple SL, Mimi / Carry SL / NYAF and Sayuri DDY. They all hit the age + beauty, quality + service, and price point for me.

  10. #10450
    Senior Member


    Posts: 473
    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    LOL I am not into little girls WTF man. But it is a fact that younger women are objectively better. Pussies are tighter and the girls are prettier.

    You always mention this point about aging. I think Japanese women age just fine, plenty of JAVs look fucking great into their mid 30's. Saying "Korean and Chinese women age better" is a shitty way to rationalize paying $380 H for one of the milfs at KGs when you could have Japanese college girl for less. But hey, to each his own.

    I think age and quality are one in the same. Quality is basically age, beauty and service taken together. But Japanese pros have another big advantage IMO, one which never seems to get mentioned: some of them actually feel fresh and new to the business, with a bit of a civie feel. Whereas Chinese and Korean girls are often living in the US, doing this work full time for years, and it shows.
    I don't think you have any idea what you're even talking about. A 20 yr old Japanese girls is fresher than a 20 yr old Korean or Chinese? LOL Japanese are probably the most promiscuous of the 3 cultures most likely the reason spas can find 18-24 yrs Jgirls who are willing to come here and bang complete strangers to finance a new lap dog, and not young Koreans or Chinese. A lot more mileage on these jgirls than you think. Probably not as much as a working latina though.

    Can see money is tight for you in your recent posts you probably should spend more time making it and banging out the 'fresh' ones instead of writing up misguided social observations.

  11. #10449

    Hungry begets hungry

    Quote Originally Posted by PokerBrah  [View Original Post]

    PPC experimenting Fast Food pricing. 20 minutes for $170 for Torra https://www.pleasure-palace.club/torra. Unit cost is higher per 10 minutes than 30. Could work for some.
    Pretty sure sooner or later, it'll be funny if the major top brands will follow suit with 15-20 min options like xoxo / nycse /1010/ RS (risingsun) LOL. Basically can jump the whole house menu of chicks for 20 minutes if they all bored while the rain pours outside and they're only staring at TV's with no men cushions LOL.

  12. #10448

    Pussy ages like bread, not like wine

    Quote Originally Posted by GenghisDong  [View Original Post]
    I am into women not little girls. I like the 22 year old j girls more than the 19 year old ones. Now, j girls age terribly next to Korean and Chinese women. Korean women are hotter than Japanese women. Korean women have the best pussies. Korean and Chinese women peak in their 30's. Japanese women. I don't want a 30+ year old one except some JAV stars maybe.

    As far as sex, I'd put c and k girls over j girls easily.

    I was watching a video called the hottest Korean race car models. All over 30.

    You can get early 20's j girls here for 340. You sure as fuck are not getting early 20's k girls here for 340 and there is a reason.

    Age << quality.
    LOL I am not into little girls WTF man. But it is a fact that younger women are objectively better. Pussies are tighter and the girls are prettier.

    You always mention this point about aging. I think Japanese women age just fine, plenty of JAVs look fucking great into their mid 30's. Saying "Korean and Chinese women age better" is a shitty way to rationalize paying $380 H for one of the milfs at KGs when you could have Japanese college girl for less. But hey, to each his own.

    I think age and quality are one in the same. Quality is basically age, beauty and service taken together. But Japanese pros have another big advantage IMO, one which never seems to get mentioned: some of them actually feel fresh and new to the business, with a bit of a civie feel. Whereas Chinese and Korean girls are often living in the US, doing this work full time for years, and it shows.

  13. #10447

    NYAF BBFS Recent Visits and Top 4 ATF

    First visited NYAF in last year and was hooked, visited once a month,*sometimes more depending on cash. Then I was gone from the city for a while. In FL and GA, humidasfuck, no good AMPs, less said the better. Got back a month ago and spent several times at NYAF over a bunch of visits. More dollars than I've spent anywhere else in my life, but NYAF never disappoints, prices are upfront with no upsell, and I got so much stress and juice after sweating my balls off down south. Its pricier but I always leave getting exactly what I wanted and usually more.

    Here's my Top 4. I've seen each multiple times. All do BBFS for extra and they tend to go above-and-beyond when they see the customer more than once.

    1. Azu. New Japanese girl. Boss says she started last month (can you guys confirm? Incredibly young (maybe mid20's), petite but with a good butt and big smile. After first time gloved I went BBFS and it was totally worth the extra. Actually drooled down her chin and neck while I powered her from behind. When I unloaded once, she spent ten minutes rubbing the cum in her pussy and licking her fingers. Jeezuz! Genuine GFE*+ PSE*+ maybe an actual*nympho. Best fuck of my old life, maybe my ATF.

    2. Lucy. But Lucy is the close second and most of you know why. Thin and petite that you can lift and toss*around, which is good for me because I'm short. Treat her right and generous and you can do anything. Her grind and BJs (DT) are amazing, I've gone pussy-to-mouth-to-pussy, rinse and repeat. Might need to put Azu and Lucy in same room and do side-by-side comparison.

    3. Zoe. The session I did with Lucy and Zoe was highlight of my life. Again some of you know what I mean. Unlike some other pairs, they genuinely like each other and seem to get into it, licking kissing and fingering each other. That just makes the whole experience amazing as fuck. When I blew into Zoe, Lucy cleaned up with her tongue. I've done 1 on1 with Zoe a couple times: she's taller than I usually do (I'm barely 5. 5), but sweet, soft, bigger boobs and ass, always affectionate and reliable.

    4. Yaya. The BJ queen of NYC. If anyone disagrees, share your contenders. I once facefucked her for 15 minutes nonstop, she didn't blink, when I gave*her a breath, she said in her gravelly voice "Why you stop? And went back to work. Good girl. Good grind too, but her voice is low and dirty for a reason. Her tonsils and esophagus must get pummeled.

    Will try to head back at least couple more times. My company is threatening to move everything from NJ to SC and FL at end of summer. Fuck them, but I need the money to do stuff like NYAF so wtfyougonnado.

    Might try another new Japanese girl, Miu, and there's always a non Asian working but I never tried. If anyone has reviews of the other girls if they do BBFS, would love to read them.

  14. #10446
    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    If it's youth you're after, than you are wasting your time with Koreans in NYC. Go to LA.

    It is crazy to my mind that some NYC mongers are willing to pay the same price for a Korean auntie as they would for a hot 19 year old Japanese girl. Jesus Christ you guys must really like Koreans LOL.
    I've definitely been keep my eye on Koreans from the west which is why I specifically was curious about Leah since she's from the west. She was offering BBFSCIP for $100, but those rates have hit NYC rates now. It's not youth that I'm after, I mentioned I don't mind if the girl doesn't look over 35 I'm just looking for hot kgirls. Doesn't mean she can't be in her 40's but she looks 30's, it's a cockblock for me if I can visually tell they are 35 or older (wrinkles, saggage, the way they dress etc). I can almost immediately tell a girls age by how they dress, because regardless of ethnicity or where they are from all girls look at the same fashion designers, you can really tell by the shoes that they wear.

    But yes my preference is Korean over Japanese, it's just always been like that for me. In my opinion majority of the jgirls look underaged to me which is a cockblock, I like my girls between 25-35. The jgirls that I have seen you can visually tell are early-mid 20's.

  15. #10445
    Quote Originally Posted by JavLuvr  [View Original Post]
    If it's youth you're after, than you are wasting your time with Koreans in NYC. Go to LA.

    It is crazy to my mind that some NYC mongers are willing to pay the same price for a Korean auntie as they would for a hot 19 year old Japanese girl. Jesus Christ you guys must really like Koreans LOL.
    I am into women not little girls. I like the 22 year old j girls more than the 19 year old ones. Now, j girls age terribly next to Korean and Chinese women. Korean women are hotter than Japanese women. Korean women have the best pussies. Korean and Chinese women peak in their 30's. Japanese women. I don't want a 30+ year old one except some JAV stars maybe.

    As far as sex, I'd put c and k girls over j girls easily.

    I was watching a video called the hottest Korean race car models. All over 30.

    You can get early 20's j girls here for 340. You sure as fuck are not getting early 20's k girls here for 340 and there is a reason.

    Age << quality.

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