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06-20-23 18:36 #4341Senior Member

Posts: 157In 2003, there was a hottie (possibly mixed Asian) named Ashton. Not to be confused with the Tropical Lei Ashton. I was there one night for Shawnee, but noticed Ashton going in and out of the VIP with so many guys. My guess was she was just hot and not doing extras. When she came to ask me for a dance, I didn't get any vibes that extras were available. She was just very quiet about asking.
I got my Shawnee time because I had a thing for Jessica Simpson and she was very close in profile. I also got HJ from Dana (tall amason) and later Frankie / Ryan. Frankie was so upfront: No hello or hi, just came up to me. "you want a handjob for $40?
Anyone know if Ashton at HT did extras, or was I wrong.
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06-20-23 15:41 #4340Senior Member

Posts: 159Dear sir-.
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You have a gift. I'd hire you if our subject areas were not so *vastly* different. I'm still laughing.
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06-20-23 15:23 #4339Senior Member

Posts: 130Somehow I never heard of that version of 'Honey,' and I'm sad that I didn't, especially if she was any good. Paradise was always a downer, except when I could convince a girl to raw-dog on the couches, which happened not a few times. I'm trying to remember which girl invented the infamous 'Paradise Handshake. ' I think it was that smoking hot, addicted blonde chick. Hmm. Paradise was the first of the clubs I gave up, because after the reno, it just wasn't the same. It was like lumber supply. All the girls had thighs like tree trunks, and the truly dirty girls were all gone. That poor blonde waitress, she saw sooo many Ds being handled as she'd walk up to drop the first drink order. She wasn't bad looking actually.
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06-20-23 15:02 #4338Senior Member

Posts: 130Alyssa 2
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I think I was there on Alyssa's first day. The door swung upen and out she came like she was fired from a cannon. When I say she came in hot, I mean that she knew everything, all the game, all the ins and outs, how to play defense if she needed, how to look at a guy with his dick in her hand in a way that broke a man's will, or got her written into his will. She came off as entirely self-reliant, which is odd considering Nadia's position as 'cousin' ahem I mean business manager. She didn't seen to need or want the companionship of other girls. She had the kind of emotional stability that almost no dancer possesses, but which ensures some serious nightly rakes--she didn't need to talk to anyone, share anything, complain, get a laugh, nothing. She was trench friendship without the trench (insert gag about the size of Dayleen's p*ssy).
She favored a white bikini back then (and I think later as well, if memory serves). The total package was a showstopper--the contrast of that white bikini on her dark skin, the boner-on-sight body, and that oddly joyful face, that bushy hair, the mestiza Lolita vibe. Ouch, my dick hurts just writing this.
I mean she knew everything, right down to the methods for the oily handjob that needed to suffice when you learned her BJ / FS prices and said aw hell naw. I don't know Alyssa's arrangement with Nadia, and of course I asked her directly, getting only a shrug in reply. So I can only surmise that Nadia was schoolmarm, but I feel like Alyssa knew innately how to convince a patron that she's worth literally three times what a day shift girl got for the same thing. I also wondered if maybe she'd worked at Imperial in Santa Fe or Flamingo in Anaheim, both super HM places where several COI club girls started out.
I got a lapdance with her on one of her first days on the job, and wow, shorty could grind. She was very good. Leaving all better sense next to the cumstains on the lap dance couches, I swept the skinny ***** into the VIP area. And three songs later came out chastened for my hubris, the wind sucked from my sails, but nothing else sucked. At that point her prices weren't widely known, so when we settled into the booth, I had no idea of the bill about to be laid on my table. So I asked. I think at the time it was 3 for BJ / 6 for cfs, was it not? I considered those numbers as she kneeled between my legs looking at me with mature self-assurance. 'I'll get the handjob,' I said. I think most will agree, those are the hardest words to utter in all bro-hood next to telling the valet, 'I'm the 2005 Dodge Neon. ' Alyssa was accustomed even then to guys downsizing, so it left her unaffected entirely. Luckily the humiliation didn't downsize me entirely, so before song 3 was halfway complete, she was wiping the goo from between her fingers. If anyone wonders why I didn't ask in advance, I never asked in advance. There are reasons, but they're beyond the scope.
Pretty soon everyone else learned what I learned, and Alyssa's prices got out. That was when th Alyssa stigmatization began. She was the Sin Eater for all girls who hoped to increase their prices, the one who took the heat so that later Charlie, Rossi and others could ask for widly high amounts and get away with it. At the time it was madness. The Zbone board lit up like the mothaf*ckin Luxor skybeam with one topic and one topic alone--who the f*ck does this little sl*t Alyssa think she is charging so much? Meanwhile, Alyssa frolicked, and I mean frolicked, around the club, wearing long white tube socks that contrasted with her Filipina / Mex skin tones and oh how she made my dick hurt, so I'd try not to look at her. It was a waste of time. I'd spend about 30 k per year at least on the hobby, but I wasn't paying that much for covered s*x with a girl I could never thereafter maintain a friendship with (there's that word again, 'friendship,' LOL). That's going to piss off some of you he-men women-hatin secret handshake guys.
But that's nothing like how Alyssa pissed off guys. And from what I've been reading, she was on blast from 2007 until the day she retired in 2022 or 2023.
Next up, part 3, who was hot then and why did the heat come?
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06-20-23 14:36 #4337Senior Member

Posts: 130Oh no, different Honey. The Honey I'm talking about was Chinese, and according to a mutual friend she was pretty highly educated. I got that impression as well from our one email exchange. Getting laps with her was like dropping molly for the first time. When I asked her for a VIP, I had no idea what she'd do or not do. But really, almost no girls didn't do, just Eve and a few chicks who eventually went to the dark side after all. That was the difference between HT and the other HM clubs--you couldn't be sure anywhere else, not even at DVCOI with the 'for privacy just move the fake tree in front of the cubicle entrance' VIP area. At Hawaii, if a girl showed up, she showed up to f*ck. There's one funny exception to that, but that one's too obscure even for me.
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06-20-23 14:15 #4336Senior Member

Posts: 315If I recall correctly, she used to go by Paris at Synn. She had a reputation for being a ROB and it was suspected she changed her name to try to outrun her bad reputation. That was a long time ago so hopefully she has changed by now. She's good looking but not hot in person and a bit older. I might investigate further if she offers a sensible rate.
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06-20-23 13:05 #4335Senior Member

Posts: 248I actually enjoy these long-form comments so keep 'them comin'. I enjoy Jeep's posts, as well. I figure if you don't like something just read something else LOL. Kind of like how some people think certain sequels or prequels "ruin" a franchise or the original movie, I figure why don't you just not watch it? Plenty of others find it interesting and entertaining.
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06-20-23 11:01 #4334Senior Member

Posts: 224Honey from HT is young blonde girl with big natural tits who walks around openly saying "I'll suck your cock for 90 bucks" right? I started this hobby at Paradise back in 2003. Things haven't change much. I'm still using the same approach.
Originally Posted by Velcrolio
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06-20-23 05:46 #4333Senior Member

Posts: 130Moving from one p*mp to another is fraught with peril. Alyssa would've needed to do a buyout, or someone would've had to muscle Nadia to the side. The guy who played a part in the downfall of HT managed Rossi, Charlie, Angel, Pamela and many others at HT. I knew those names from the DVCOI board, but then all of a sudden they all moved over to HT. It was like a wave of superhot that raised temps through the roof. Girls who'd been working before this wave either moved on or accepted their pay being cut, with the exception of Eve, Synn, Jayla, Franke and the real lookers / earners / hustlers. My friends knew who this guy was because he came in to check on her 'employees' all the time. HT management surely knew who he was. As another scandal at strip clubs, well-connected bad actors like this dude are protected by management. I've had a few friends violently raped in the VIP with no repercussions for the guy. He simply showed up later and mauled a different girl, paying nothing, getting what he could've gotten anyway for the usual tip, and really just doing it for the sociopathic thrill, best I can explain.
Digression aside, that p*mp who managed the DVCOI emigres came in one day looking to hurt a *****. It was Pamela, the 6'3" girl who, in heels, was like 6'7. " She was a college volleyball star, I seem to recall her telling me. Pamela had enough, grabbed her daughter, and bailed to Vegas. P*mp daddy rolled in hot, asking any girl he could grab, until I think John or whatever clown was managing that day urged him out the door. A lot of customers up and left, fearing the guy had a gun, I seem to recall. Eventually this guy found Pamela and beat her nearly to death. Pamela was out of commission for three months. I never patronized her, but when I saw her return, I said hey, let's do a VIP. Once inside I handed her a hundy and said, so tell me what happened. I knew she wouldn't tell me, but I'd have an idea of the veracity of the tale at least. She burst out crying and looked away. I asked if she'd been in the hospital, and she nodded. Then she gathered herself, opened her legs, and guided my hand toward her v. 'At least get something for your money,' she said, and that was the last I heard of what went down.
The story was that this guy provided condos and cars on prepay, but the girls (as with all p*mps) were on quota of some kind, earn this much per month, or it's your ass. I'd love to know the implied APR he charged.
I've since known a 'managed' girl who was on HX in the Corona area and was booked on 10 jobs per day with no day off for 5 months until she quit, whereupon the 75 k she'd earned vanished from her bank account. So there is worse in a sense. Nonetheless, of that crew, Charlie and Angel were absolute joys, fun, spunky, mischievous and incredibly hot. Angel's tits are legendary, and she was one of the few BBBJ swallowers you'll ever find in a club. Charlie qualifies as 'dream girl,' tall and thin, long brown hair, like a Playboy model from 1974. Rossi of course was charging 8 for FS, can't remember the rest of the names at the moment.
That incident with Pamela got out to the wider world in some way or other. The COI city manager office heard something, cops heard it, and I believe it factored in what was to befall a few years later.
Originally Posted by Roland2418
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06-20-23 05:23 #4332Senior Member

Posts: 130PelicanT99 doesn't have to fret. He won't be seeing any more posts by me. I'm fine being put on 'ignore' by anyone. I always write longer stuff than others. I'm not interested in the meat and potatoes of pricing out a dance, I'm interested in the entirety of the game, and if anyone thinks the game has changed very much, or that information can be encapsulated in roll calls or current news, they're deluding themselves. The things I write about 2008 inform dudes who are starting out in 2023, for example, 'what goes on in a full service VIP?" I can answer that with specifics and implicate nobody if I'm talking about someone who's retired. Like for example the dancer 'Honey' from 2007 at HT, whose lapdances were up there with Leilani as the most hypnotic experiences outside a Mark Rothko art exhibit. Honey said to me as we entered the VIP 'Kitty isn't working today, do you mind doing anal?' See how that works? Honey is fine, HT is fine, because both are long gone. So I'm free to write as an educational post, guys, if you're in that situation where you're assf*cking a hot-as-f*ck Chinese girl in the VIP, don't accidentally use too much lube. The poor girl missed her next shift onstage for leakage. 'I couldn't dance! I would've killed myself falling on the leaking lube!' she told me later. Now you've learned something without even having to ask.
Okay next post is Alyssa's early days, bursting on the scene, blue-balling all who could see the prize but not pay for the prize (me included).
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06-19-23 19:13 #4331Senior Member

Posts: 248I think she used to work at the SR COI years ago then moved to Synn. From what I remember she used to work at a McDonald's? I'm a sarcastic mofo and she did not take kindly to my humor (she got very defensive) so just be polite LOL. Didn't talk anything else but she did seem to hustle (always darting from customer to customer) so you got some potential there.
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06-19-23 18:40 #4330Senior Member

Posts: 688Synn industry
Noticed a dancer named Tatum, she looks cute on roll call, anyone got Intel on her??
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06-19-23 16:57 #4329Senior Member

Posts: 315There was a later rumor floating around that the eventual "GPS crew" of Alyssa, Suki and Andrea worked with or for some guy who helped them out on business. That might have been b. S. Though when the NBA all star game was in LA in 2018, those 3 took the week off from the clubs which was rare for them at the time.
Originally Posted by Velcrolio
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06-19-23 14:41 #4328Senior Member

Posts: 317Uhhhh, multi-part reflections on retired dancers really deserve a separate user sub-thread. It's hard enough to find current intel on this Strip Clubs thread. May I suggest you entitle it "Alyssa Simps" like they did on the Inglewood boards for fans of Apple? LOL.
Originally Posted by Velcrolio
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There also needs to be a standing rule that anyone writing about Alyssa or the Crew disclose the most and least they ever paid for that fine but road-worn pussy. No one ever does. I'll start: I think I paid $120 (my high end HT price) back in her first days, on a dead Tuesday with no other customers and Nadia not in the house. Never offered me that price again, and I never repeated. Never patronized Nadia, although I liked talking to her (on days she had no takers, she knew I wasn't paying her price but I was a regular at HT and we got along). I had & have no problem with their business plan; it works on many guys, and more power to the girl who can pull it off. Just not my thing.
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06-19-23 09:34 #4327Senior Member

Posts: 130On the occasion of Alyssa's retirement, or is it six months past the occasion? Whaever, here's a six or seven-part recollection of those old days when Alyssa was the muffin of the moment and Nadia's 'protege. '.
"I was Velcro on Zbone, one of the highest-volume writers on that board if not the entire site between 2006-2009 or so. Let's trace Alyssa back to the first clack of her heels, shall we?
I think it was 2007 when she began, but I'm not going to look it up; I'll stand pre-corrected. What girls knew, but guys didn't was tht there was always some level of p*mping going on in the high mileage clubs at least. I have no knowledge of any other clubs than high mileage clubs because seriously why? The biggest story of p*mping impacted the entirety of the friendly filthy pastures of COI / La Puente, and that's a story in two stages involving a couple dozen girls and one girl who was nearly killed. On the lighter side, there was Nadia.
Nadia had 'University of Phoenix' extension certificate holder written all over her. I used to visualize her with the dyed blonde hair sitting in a suburban private university classroom, her pen studiously poised near her chin, a fluffy toy poised at the other end of the pen, wearing a skirt, fake bake plust Filipina eyes. Those thunderous golden thighs drawing stares. I did maybe one dance with her at HT, then we really so much as acknowledged each other again. I thought she was playing the 'businesswoman' thing with sledgehammer touch, and she (like all the girls) thought I was always getting too close to inside dope via my friendships with several of the girls (which continues to this day, and a big f*ck you to all the losers on ZBone who used to try gently to save me from being played, and also to my fellow z-boners who used to mock me for deluding myself that I could be friends with the girls. I think ya missed my point, eh?) Preamble over, I was wrong about Nadia. She actually was something of a sex-trafficking thunder-thighed business person. She'd found a girl, supposedly her little cousin, and bam, little cousin was thrown into the miliue, and like all the hotter girls worked over ten or so members per night in the VIP from day 1. And little cousin took the name Alyssa.
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