"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Peter Johnson]

Isn't this the one that wants 1000 ppm?

I didn't even get to ppm discussion, because was just turned off, from all those piercings.

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...2-604070342b61

Says she usually gets 400-500, but would go down to 350, but nothing below that. She said she has met three guys and got 400 from each of those. But 34 yo and a Mom bod (although not a bad one) and I just can't see going over 250 or maybe 300 max, but even that would be a stretch.

Also just get a pro vibe from her profile and the conversation. She sent me topless and pussy pics right off. Could be a fun girl, but looks like I will miss out.

[SuperFlee]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...3-476a81c5f53e

Seems for real, and new to the site. She said she had an arrangement before, but he moved away. Fairly pretty face, but too metallic for me, but might work for someone else.

Isn't this the one that wants 1000 ppm?

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...3-476a81c5f53e

Seems for real, and new to the site. She said she had an arrangement before, but he moved away. Fairly pretty face, but too metallic for me, but might work for someone else.

[LouisHernandez]

I use a variation of this very thing, and the minute I get any pushing back I am gone and they are blocked. Actually had it happen last night with Vic. Tor. Ia (or something like that). We'd been messaging back and forth about meeting up for lunch (she's better than a coffee date, WHAT THE FUK EVER). I bend over backwards to get her to tell me where she'd like to have lunch that was convenient to her. Turns out she's outside 285 on PIB, so I suggest Jimmy's Tacos & Tequilla (cause everybody likes Mexican food) and it's better than Applebee's. Her response was obviously typed straight faced, she said " I'm classier than that". My reply was no holds barred at this point (30 messages in and I'm getting bored) I said "It's LUNCH. In DORAVILLE", I'm not trying to impress you with a $150 lunch at McKendricks just to meet you face to face. This Gold Plated Pussy little girl said "I wouldn't be impressed by that either" Instant block from me. She'd be boring as hell in the bedroom.

Don't take any of this shit these dumb twats say personally. And no chick is better than a coffee date. In fact, I don't do anything but coffee dates now. The best SBs say yes to that without batting an eye. You can easily get rinsed going on dinner dates.

[BumbaCloth]

Anyone talked to her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...f-506b79375256

She's a pro $$$ for hour.

[GoneForGood97]

So do you get much pushback when you decide not to see them again, when you set the PPM on the premise of "four times per month". Do you bother to make an excuse why you don't want to move forward with that, or do you just say you are busy, repeatedly, or even ghost them?

No, I don't get any pushback. Usually during the first date I'll bring up at some point how busy work is. They'll ask what I do, I tell them something that's in the ball park but not exactly what I do and mention I do have to travel a lot for work.

Generally if I've seen them 2-3 times when I tell them "Hey I can't come by this week work is sending me to XYZ" they're fine with it. Now, I don't usually do that until I've seen them at least a few times, as at that point they like me enough that it won't matter.

[GoneForGood97]

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...6-e0ee19b1e14c

I did a M&G with this one. Nice enough, but not great chemistry, and she says she wants 500 ppm, which is definitely too high for me. I'm just passing along the info, if anyone is interested.

*looks at profile* *laughs uncontrollably at 500 PPM*.

[BrownSugaTwo]

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...6-e0ee19b1e14c

I did a M&G with this one. Nice enough, but not great chemistry, and she says she wants 500 ppm, which is definitely too high for me. I'm just passing along the info, if anyone is interested.

Thanks for posting that. I spoke with her a while ago but never sealed the deal. Glad to know I'm not missing out on much.

[Peter Johnson]

As I mentioned earlier I've let my sub lapse after having some success and finding someone that will become my regular. I thought it might be useful to post a
few screenshots from one of my "negotiations" with an SB that had "GPS" according to a different post here. No, I won't link to the girl as her profile is now inactive. A few things to know:.

So do you get much pushback when you decide not to see them again, when you set the PPM on the premise of "four times per month". Do you bother to make an excuse why you don't want to move forward with that, or do you just say you are busy, repeatedly, or even ghost them?

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...6-e0ee19b1e14c

I did a M&G with this one. Nice enough, but not great chemistry, and she says she wants 500 ppm, which is definitely too high for me. I'm just passing along the info, if anyone is interested.

[Member #6704]

I had a meet and greet a year or so back with a girl, not as cute as this one, who also wanted $1K per meet. Explained that wasn't realistic, told her not to believe anyone who offered that much as it was likely TGTBT and she'd get scammed (for SBs, their version of a deposit scammer is the fuck and run), paid for our drinks, and left. She disappeared from the site a couple of weeks later.

Are there girls who make $1K per meet? Sure, the top 1% of the 1%. The honest-to-god super models. But this girl isn't in their league, so the guys willing to pay $1K per meet are never going to bother to message her when they can get way hotter. As someone else said, she's heard on Tiktok from some influencer who is way way prettier than her that the influencer gets $1k a pop and all you have to do is "know your worth", "not settle" and "find the right guy" to get that too, but that's no different than saying "Anyone can get rich, just buy lotto tickets til you win". Yeah, 1 person might win, but it's almost certainly never going to be you.

Now, you can maybe get her on a meet and greet and explain that to her and if you're persuasive enough and she's open minded enough you get her somewhere reasonable. Or just move on and check with her again in a month or so after she's had a bunch of failed dates and been scammed into smashing a guy who overpromised then dashed out before paying.

Here's some advanced level strategy that you can try, but just know it takes a lot of experience and the ability to read people over text to navigate and guide a conversation into these beats, but I've successfully done it before.

If I were to approach a GPS SB I'd start off asking what she does for fun, then talk about that stuff for a bit. In this case her profile is bit barebones, so if she doesn't really engage in good conversation and can't setup a back and forth cadence I would bail since without a connection there's little to no chance to move her to a reasonable PPM. Once I'd talked to her for a day or 2 about the things she enjoys, I'd ask her what she's looking for in an arrangement. I'll agree that I'm looking for the same, BUT it's extremely important to me that it doesn't feel transactional, and that I don't vibe with girls who are overly materialistic, and if she is to materialistic then I don't want to waste each others time. She'll either defend herself and insist she's not materialistic or she'll dodge the issue. If she dodges then I probably wouldn't waste anymore time. If she states she's not materialistic then I'll talk about how great that is, about how it's nice to talk to an SB that gets being an SB is more than just $, and I'm very excited to hear that she's "the real deal". If done right, I've now made it HER idea that she doesn't "care" about the $ as much, and hope she'll feel the need to prove it to me. Then I'll start being a little flirty and see if she'd flirt back. Once she seemed comfortable doing that, I'd say I'd like to talk about arrangement details but want to confirm we'll have sexual chemistry and would like to talk about what she enjoys sexually. Talk a good bit about what she likes, and if it seems to be going well and she seems into it I normally can get nudes at this point before finally discussing PPM details.

I've used this more than once to book a couple of self described models. It's not 100%, and the key is knowing when and how to introduce the "materialistic is a turn off" without being too blunt or direct about it.

Thank you for sharing this. Your approach makes sense.

[AdmirerSecret]

Monthly 4 visit $600 is good. I don't understand why girls think of them. I am getting kbp latinas, safe clean no tension of bf and others. Until $200 ppm I m not going to entertain any girls. Kbp if you are seeing messages bring more white girls and Mexicans women.

As I mentioned earlier I've let my sub lapse after having some success and finding someone that will become my regular. I thought it might be useful to post a few screenshots from one of my "negotiations" with an SB that had "GPS" according to a different post here. No, I won't link to the girl as her profile is now inactive. A few things to know:

We had talked some on the site then switched to text. Texted off and on that day and the next. We talked about her and what she liked and eventually the discussion turned sexual and she sent a few nudes. I didn't let the PPM discussion happen til we reached a point where I thought she liked me and wanted to see me. If you go straight from messaging on SA to just immediately asking about PPM as soon as you move to text you're almost certainly going to overpay. Spend a little time getting to know them first, ask them questions about things they mention liking on their profile (you did read their profile right?)

Green texts are me, black texts are from her. You'll notice at one point she happens to bring up that her previous SD who paid too much enjoyed public play. No, whether I do or not isn't relevant, but I immediately used that info to 1) assert that I don't want to be rushed, and 2) isn't something that I'm interested in (subtly implying there's no value to be added by "doing things in public" which means I don't need to pay extra for it. I don't say that outloud or obviously, but the implication is I don't need to pay as much since I don't care about it).

Wants 600 ppm. Seems real, but I did not verify, and passed altogether.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...e-b030eb6f1f03

[SoonerFan72]

Wants 600 ppm. Seems real, but I did not verify, and passed altogether.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...e-b030eb6f1f03

[Airmantroy]

I had a meet and greet a year or so back with a girl, not as cute as this one, who also wanted $1K per meet. Explained that wasn't realistic, told her not to believe anyone who offered that much as it was likely TGTBT and she'd get scammed (for SBs, their version of a deposit scammer is the fuck and run), paid for our drinks, and left. She disappeared from the site a couple of weeks later.

Are there girls who make $1K per meet? Sure, the top 1% of the 1%. The honest-to-god super models. But this girl isn't in their league, so the guys willing to pay $1K per meet are never going to bother to message her when they can get way hotter. As someone else said, she's heard on Tiktok from some influencer who is way way prettier than her that the influencer gets $1k a pop and all you have to do is "know your worth", "not settle" and "find the right guy" to get that too, but that's no different than saying "Anyone can get rich, just buy lotto tickets til you win". Yeah, 1 person might win, but it's almost certainly never going to be you.

Now, you can maybe get her on a meet and greet and explain that to her and if you're persuasive enough and she's open minded enough you get her somewhere reasonable. Or just move on and check with her again in a month or so after she's had a bunch of failed dates and been scammed into smashing a guy who overpromised then dashed out before paying..

I use a variation of this very thing, and the minute I get any pushing back I am gone and they are blocked. Actually had it happen last night with Vic. Tor. Ia (or something like that). We'd been messaging back and forth about meeting up for lunch (she's better than a coffee date, WHAT THE FUK EVER). I bend over backwards to get her to tell me where she'd like to have lunch that was convenient to her. Turns out she's outside 285 on PIB, so I suggest Jimmy's Tacos & Tequilla (cause everybody likes Mexican food) and it's better than Applebee's. Her response was obviously typed straight faced, she said " I'm classier than that". My reply was no holds barred at this point (30 messages in and I'm getting bored) I said "It's LUNCH. In DORAVILLE", I'm not trying to impress you with a $150 lunch at McKendricks just to meet you face to face. This Gold Plated Pussy little girl said "I wouldn't be impressed by that either" Instant block from me. She'd be boring as hell in the bedroom.