"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**GoneForGood97** · 05-07-23 19:41

Originally Posted by Ripvan12 [View Original Post]

What's good G4G? I think our ranges are basically the same. My offers range from 150-300 per meet. I have went a little higher for a couple Asians at 350 but overall max is 300 and min is 150. What I meant by bargain bin is if I had to chart out my headaches in this game it usually comes from the 150-200 crowd. Agree it's market rate but also we are very susceptible to lose a 200 girl for someone coming in and offering 250 the same day. 50 bucks doesn't move the needle for me but it really shifts the scales for a 20 something needing money. So the occasional ghost does happen on day of meet. The usual my aunt found out she has cancer. Or the tried and true, dang I just got my period 5 minutes ago. Blah blah.

Judging from your post history, we have spilled the same blood in the same mud more than a few times over the past couple years. Respect to you. Ripper.

All good man, and I'm not going to lie, I've had my fair share of no shows / flakes, and I'm sure some of them were due to some other guys throwing more $ at them. It's also my experience that once you've smashed a girl, the risk for them (i.e. Running into a scammer / flake / fuck'and'run) makes it less likely for that to happen. A few them will always jump into the next bed making a better offer, but most prefer the sure thing with a guy they know than risk an unknown for a little bit more $, especially if you make sure they have a great time when they're with you (both in and out of the bed).

**Peter Johnson** · 05-07-23 19:29

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...c-48157a5ecf60

Went to text. Offered 250-300 and she said "I do 1000 meet ups. I didn't realize you were trying to pay for sex : / "

I think that says it all.

**Peter Johnson** · 05-07-23 19:22

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a-b8a482134ef6

LusciousBrat.

Thought this one was good to go. Great and flirty to talk to, moved from the site to text, sent verification pic. Wasn't very long til I had nudes and a couple of sex tapes and we had a meet and greet scheduled. Arrangement details had not come up, figured it would come up at the meet and greet but also thought she might be one of those who just had a thing for older guys and didn't really care about the $. After being fun and flirty for awhile she stops responding. Happen to go check SA and see I'm now blocked.

She's real and I bet she'd take a reasonable rate. No idea what or why she ghosted me, but it's the nature of the game I suppose.

I hit her up and certainly fun to text with. She sent me a video of her getting fisted, which is a bit too much for me, but also some hot pics. I like her face and body, but she may be too hardcore into D / s play to be a perfect fit for me. I am dominant in bed, but not Dom. Anyway I just looked on the site and she also blocked me, so not sure if she lost interest or maybe she does that to everyone once she moves to text?

And she wants me to get clean STD test before BBFS, which of course is reasonable, but not sure if I'll get around to doing that sometime soon. I just looked and I thought we discussed ppm amount, but I guess not. She seems very horny though, so doesn't seem like the GPS type. But then again, you never know.

**Ripvan12** · 05-07-23 16:38

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

I'm going to slightly disagree with you about 200 being the "bargain bin". It's this kind of thinking that has guys expecting to settle for GPS. 200-300 is simply the standard price in this area, especially if you're ok with playing with the majority of the market (remember, slim white girls aren't the majority of the market in Atlanta). Less than 200 I'll concede is bargain bin (in Metro Atlanta, though I've had plenty of success with 150 out in smaller areas).

I found 2 girls in less than a week after reactivating my sub that, if they are reliable and consistent (always hard to tell on the initial visit; some girls put their best foot forward on that first visit then go way unreliable after that) will keep me satisfied. One is 200 plus hotel, early 20's blond spinner all bare, and the other is a late 20's spinner but with natural Cs, a body built for sex, and one of the sweetest girls I've ever met on the site, with the added bonus of some of the best sex I've ever had, she's 300 but hosts. No I won't share either since I'm actively seeing them.

What's good G4 G? I think our ranges are basically the same. My offers range from 150-300 per meet. I have went a little higher for a couple Asians at 350 but overall max is 300 and min is 150. What I meant by bargain bin is if I had to chart out my headaches in this game it usually comes from the 150-200 crowd. Agree it's market rate but also we are very susceptible to lose a 200 girl for someone coming in and offering 250 the same day. 50 bucks doesn't move the needle for me but it really shifts the scales for a 20 something needing money. So the occasional ghost does happen on day of meet. The usual my aunt found out she has cancer. Or the tried and true, dang I just got my period 5 minutes ago. Blah blah.

Judging from your post history, we have spilled the same blood in the same mud more than a few times over the past couple years. Respect to you. Ripper.

**TooHotForYou** · 05-07-23 14:59

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

Thanks for the info and pics. I like that thick curvy look and talked to her, and she wants 500. I'm not going that high, and 350-400 is usually my max, and that would have to include green light for CIP and also being able to take pics and video of the action.

Having hot pics to enjoy for years, is often worth an extra 100 to me, if the girl has a pretty face, so can get some good BJ footage. Or I like to do oral cumshot vid, which is classic. Anyway, she seems polite enough, but definitely pricing herself on the high end of the market for her body type.

I agreed to her 500 price and now she seems to be ghosting me as we get close to our meeting. Seems to be a habit she has.

**Peter Johnson** · 05-07-23 13:12

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

Eva in Lawrenceville.

Sorry no link. We had a good convo on the site the moved her to text, where she was happy to go into detail and shared her nudes. Finally got to the arrangement details, made my standard 300 offer, and she ghosted. Checked the site a few minutes later and I'm blocked. She's a little too thicc to be asking more than that, but ya know how it is. No idea what her ask is since she didn't even respond with a number.

Thanks for the info and pics. I like that thick curvy look and talked to her, and she wants 500. I'm not going that high, and 350-400 is usually my max, and that would have to include green light for CIP and also being able to take pics and video of the action.

Having hot pics to enjoy for years, is often worth an extra 100 to me, if the girl has a pretty face, so can get some good BJ footage. Or I like to do oral cumshot vid, which is classic. Anyway, she seems polite enough, but definitely pricing herself on the high end of the market for her body type.

**GoneForGood97** · 05-07-23 12:50

Originally Posted by Ripvan12 [View Original Post]

Man, this one knows how to work the angles and take extremely flattering pictures. I met her back in 2021 over lunch. She hopped in my car and we chatted. Back then she was willing to accept $200. But I agree with Peter, in person she doesn't present as good as the pictures she sends. Anyway I never got to the FC as she proved to be pretty flaky at the time. I know we all love a good $150-200 price point but some of the headaches in the bargain bin isn't worth it LOL. Ripper.

I'm going to slightly disagree with you about 200 being the "bargain bin". It's this kind of thinking that has guys expecting to settle for GPS. 200-300 is simply the standard price in this area, especially if you're ok with playing with the majority of the market (remember, slim white girls aren't the majority of the market in Atlanta). Less than 200 I'll concede is bargain bin (in Metro Atlanta, though I've had plenty of success with 150 out in smaller areas).

I found 2 girls in less than a week after reactivating my sub that, if they are reliable and consistent (always hard to tell on the initial visit; some girls put their best foot forward on that first visit then go way unreliable after that) will keep me satisfied. One is 200 plus hotel, early 20's blond spinner all bare, and the other is a late 20's spinner but with natural Cs, a body built for sex, and one of the sweetest girls I've ever met on the site, with the added bonus of some of the best sex I've ever had, she's 300 but hosts. No I won't share either since I'm actively seeing them.

**LouisHernandez** · 05-07-23 12:05

Originally Posted by Ripvan12 [View Original Post]

Good point here on patience. I was talking to a late 20's Latina single mom back in April. Talked for a few days and threw out a $300 offer. She went radio silent. Not a word in response to it. Low and behold, she responds two weeks later and says no she can only do 500-600. I just deleted her message and kept it moving without responding. Yesterday, about a month after initial communication, she hits me up and says she can do 250-300 for an overnighter tonight. This doesn't work all the time but man it feels good when patience wins the day. As one of my monger buddy says, their bills always comes due just be ready to pounce. Ripper.

That was a good story. Another rule: always be ready. Have your powder dry at all times. It takes some discipline, but it's well worth it.

**LouisHernandez** · 05-07-23 11:56

Originally Posted by CarmelFight [View Original Post]

So yeah I ended up picking her up, she is the person in the pics however they are totally dolled up, she didn't look that good in person. She smoked a joint before we met so she was kinda chillaxed so the talking was min. I ended up just taking her to lunch papadaux for some nice Cajun food. She is tiny if she didn't have the face tats you would think she was like 14 in person. She does have a cute smile, and makes that fish face which is cute on her. Judging by her pics, her voice doesn't really match up, I was thinking like cute demeanor kinda high pitch and it's straight hood hahaha. It just doesn't match to me. She told me she's new at SB only really had 1, oh booyyy. Nothing bare, she's not on BC she doesn't like taking them. She doesn't do bare because she did bare with her baby daddy and ofcourse baby popped out * 6 month old* so everything covered. I did not partake something felt off? Idk the house I dropped her off at is way to big for 2 people which she says only her and her friend. No way, that's a 3 bed house and it looked pretty decent. I saw a purple dodge charger parked down the street on the bottom of the hill lights and engine were off but saw 2 people sitting in it it just gave off bad vibes but didn't feel in danger. She's been asking to send her some money for her time, which I probably will idk yet kinda sour from the whole thing. Waste of gas and if the lunch was decent atleast the food was, she was constantly on her phone which just says fuck this ya know like you are a potential SB your attention should be toward me. Why'all can give it a go, I think ima try that one Hispanic SB that tried to say she was pregnant haha she looks drop dead gorgeous.

That song 'you ain't nothing but a hoochie mama, hood rat hood rat hoochie mama' is now stuck in my head.

**Ripvan12** · 05-07-23 10:23

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

I reviewed her in the past, and I wish I would have listened to my Spidey senses. She was acting odd, arriving at the hotel, and didn't want to even meet me in the parking lot, because she was worried she would be seen with me somehow. She just wanted me to get a room and give her the room #, without even saying hello first.

So I bailed and drove to a nearby spot and she came over there and sat in the car with me for a couple of min...and I still didn't have a great feeling about it, but I proceeded. We had agreed on 300. So it was BBFS and she said I could take pics, but after I took several, she started telling me that was enough. And then after about 40 min, she just jumped up and said she was on call for work and had to leave. She wouldn't even spend 5 more min to get me off. I didn't want any trouble, so I gave her the 300, but was so not worth it. Total ripoff.

She definitely doesn't look nearly as good as in her profile, and I have the pics (and video) to prove it. Big flabby belly, etc. Pussy was kind of dark and nasty looking too, but you can be the judge. Maybe YMMV, but message me if you want to see, before you (probably) waste your time and money.

Man, this one knows how to work the angles and take extremely flattering pictures. I met her back in 2021 over lunch. She hopped in my car and we chatted. Back then she was willing to accept $200. But I agree with Peter, in person she doesn't present as good as the pictures she sends. Anyway I never got to the FC as she proved to be pretty flaky at the time. I know we all love a good $150-200 price point but some of the headaches in the bargain bin isn't worth it LOL. Ripper.

**Ripvan12** · 05-07-23 10:13

Originally Posted by LouisHernandez [View Original Post]

Finding women is a game of arbitrage and patience. Find value where others don't desire it or see it. Good negotiators don't get in a hurry either so play it slow at first and don't seem needy. Get a whole bunch in your queue and hopefully close 1 or 2.

Good point here on patience. I was talking to a late 20's Latina single mom back in April. Talked for a few days and threw out a $300 offer. She went radio silent. Not a word in response to it. Low and behold, she responds two weeks later and says no she can only do 500-600. I just deleted her message and kept it moving without responding. Yesterday, about a month after initial communication, she hits me up and says she can do 250-300 for an overnighter tonight. This doesn't work all the time but man it feels good when patience wins the day. As one of my monger buddy says, their bills always comes due just be ready to pounce. Ripper.

**OliverNP** · 05-07-23 07:53

Originally Posted by AmpFanatl [View Original Post]

This is why I avoid hoodrats. Dollar to Donuts those dudes in the Charger would have come in 30 min after you entered her place and robbed your ass.

I think the important thing is to be in control of the circumstances. Don't meet at her place for the first date at least, take her to your choice of location. That alone will eliminate most of this type of risk.

**Peter Johnson** · 05-06-23 23:57

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

Remember the first rule of the sugar bowl: only sugar for sugar. Don't pay a goddamn penny if you didn't get laid.

Very wise words.

And BTW, you made another good point about messaging 10-20 girls a day (or something like that) and a reminder that it's a numbers game and no reason not to hit up a lot of them while your membership is active. That's what I used to do, and I had a lot more success back then. So that was a good reminder and I'm going back to spreading my feelers far and wide.

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**Peter Johnson** · 05-06-23 23:45

Originally Posted by TooHotForYou [View Original Post]

Meeting her next Wednesday. Seems legit but spidey senses for some reason. Seems maybe TGTBT. https://members.seeking.com/member/1...a-ddfa127c44e1.

I reviewed her in the past, and I wish I would have listened to my Spidey senses. She was acting odd, arriving at the hotel, and didn't want to even meet me in the parking lot, because she was worried she would be seen with me somehow. She just wanted me to get a room and give her the room #, without even saying hello first.

So I bailed and drove to a nearby spot and she came over there and sat in the car with me for a couple of min...and I still didn't have a great feeling about it, but I proceeded. We had agreed on 300. So it was BBFS and she said I could take pics, but after I took several, she started telling me that was enough. And then after about 40 min, she just jumped up and said she was on call for work and had to leave. She wouldn't even spend 5 more min to get me off. I didn't want any trouble, so I gave her the 300, but was so not worth it. Total ripoff.

She definitely doesn't look nearly as good as in her profile, and I have the pics (and video) to prove it. Big flabby belly, etc. Pussy was kind of dark and nasty looking too, but you can be the judge. Maybe YMMV, but message me if you want to see, before you (probably) waste your time and money.

**GoneForGood97** · 05-06-23 23:19

Originally Posted by CarmelFight [View Original Post]

She's been asking to send her some money for her time, which I probably will idk yet kinda sour from the whole thing. Waste of gas and if the lunch was decent atleast the food was, she was constantly on her phone which just says fuck this ya know like you are a potential SB your attention should be toward me.

Remember the first rule of the sugar bowl: only sugar for sugar. Don't pay a goddamn penny if you didn't get laid.