"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Ripvan12]

Finding women is a game of arbitrage and patience. Find value where others don't desire it or see it. Good negotiators don't get in a hurry either so play it slow at first and don't seem needy. Get a whole bunch in your queue and hopefully close 1 or 2.

Good point here on patience. I was talking to a late 20's Latina single mom back in April. Talked for a few days and threw out a $300 offer. She went radio silent. Not a word in response to it. Low and behold, she responds two weeks later and says no she can only do 500-600. I just deleted her message and kept it moving without responding. Yesterday, about a month after initial communication, she hits me up and says she can do 250-300 for an overnighter tonight. This doesn't work all the time but man it feels good when patience wins the day. As one of my monger buddy says, their bills always comes due just be ready to pounce. Ripper.

[OliverNP]

This is why I avoid hoodrats. Dollar to Donuts those dudes in the Charger would have come in 30 min after you entered her place and robbed your ass.

I think the important thing is to be in control of the circumstances. Don't meet at her place for the first date at least, take her to your choice of location. That alone will eliminate most of this type of risk.

[Peter Johnson]

Remember the first rule of the sugar bowl: only sugar for sugar. Don't pay a goddamn penny if you didn't get laid.

Very wise words.

And BTW, you made another good point about messaging 10-20 girls a day (or something like that) and a reminder that it's a numbers game and no reason not to hit up a lot of them while your membership is active. That's what I used to do, and I had a lot more success back then. So that was a good reminder and I'm going back to spreading my feelers far and wide.

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[Peter Johnson]

Meeting her next Wednesday. Seems legit but spidey senses for some reason. Seems maybe TGTBT. https://members.seeking.com/member/1...a-ddfa127c44e1.

I reviewed her in the past, and I wish I would have listened to my Spidey senses. She was acting odd, arriving at the hotel, and didn't want to even meet me in the parking lot, because she was worried she would be seen with me somehow. She just wanted me to get a room and give her the room #, without even saying hello first.

So I bailed and drove to a nearby spot and she came over there and sat in the car with me for a couple of min...and I still didn't have a great feeling about it, but I proceeded. We had agreed on 300. So it was BBFS and she said I could take pics, but after I took several, she started telling me that was enough. And then after about 40 min, she just jumped up and said she was on call for work and had to leave. She wouldn't even spend 5 more min to get me off. I didn't want any trouble, so I gave her the 300, but was so not worth it. Total ripoff.

She definitely doesn't look nearly as good as in her profile, and I have the pics (and video) to prove it. Big flabby belly, etc. Pussy was kind of dark and nasty looking too, but you can be the judge. Maybe YMMV, but message me if you want to see, before you (probably) waste your time and money.

[GoneForGood97]

She's been asking to send her some money for her time, which I probably will idk yet kinda sour from the whole thing. Waste of gas and if the lunch was decent atleast the food was, she was constantly on her phone which just says fuck this ya know like you are a potential SB your attention should be toward me.

Remember the first rule of the sugar bowl: only sugar for sugar. Don't pay a goddamn penny if you didn't get laid.

[HoWhisperer]

She's been asking to send her some money for her time, which I probably will idk yet kinda sour from the whole thing. Waste of gas and if the lunch was decent atleast the food was, she was constantly on her phone which just says fuck this ya know like you are a potential SB your attention should be toward me.

Rest assured, my friend, you are not the first to decide to take a chance only to meet up with someone that turned out to be sketchy as f**k and you had to pay for a dinner and ignore your wasted time just so you could get away. That being said, I hope you know that your only hope of putting all the bad service she will bring and all the risks that come with the purple charger behind you comes from the fact that you did give her any $$ directly. You send her a single dime after what you described and you can rest assured she and the Purple Chargers will laser focus on you as a potential financial domination fetish f*tard and they will definitely be back in touch. Cut your losses, dude.

[CarmelFight]

This is why I avoid hoodrats. Dollar to Donuts those dudes in the Charger would have come in 30 min after you entered her place and robbed your ass.

Yeah I don't doubt it, peel out if your gut gives off that tingling. She doesn't offer bb anyway so I wasn't going to partake if I wanted cfs plenty of hoodrat escorts.

[AmpFanatl]

So yeah I ended up picking her up, she is the person in the pics however they are totally dolled up, she didn't look that good in person. She smoked a joint before we met so she was kinda chillaxed so the talking was min. I ended up just taking her to lunch papadaux for some nice Cajun food. She is tiny if she didn't have the face tats you would think she was like 14 in person. She does have a cute smile, and makes that fish face which is cute on her. Judging by her pics, her voice doesn't really match up, I was thinking like cute demeanor kinda high pitch and it's straight hood hahaha. It just doesn't match to me. She told me she's new at SB only really had 1, oh booyyy. Nothing bare, she's not on BC she doesn't like taking them. She doesn't do bare because she did bare with her baby daddy and ofcourse baby popped out * 6 month old* so everything covered. I did not partake something felt off? Idk the house I dropped her off at is way to big for 2 people which she says only her and her friend. No way, that's a 3 bed house and it looked pretty decent. I saw a purple dodge charger parked down the street on the bottom of the hill lights and engine were off but saw 2 people sitting in it it just gave off bad vibes but didn't feel in danger. She's been asking to send her some money for her time, which I probably will idk yet kinda sour from the whole thing. Waste of gas and if the lunch was decent atleast the food was, she was constantly on her phone which just says fuck this ya know like you are a potential SB your attention should be toward me. Why'all can give it a go, I think ima try that one Hispanic SB that tried to say she was pregnant haha she looks drop dead gorgeous.

This is why I avoid hoodrats. Dollar to Donuts those dudes in the Charger would have come in 30 min after you entered her place and robbed your ass.

[CarmelFight]

I hope the other head doesn't get you in trouble. I can see the desire to take the risk.

So yeah I ended up picking her up, she is the person in the pics however they are totally dolled up, she didn't look that good in person. She smoked a joint before we met so she was kinda chillaxed so the talking was min. I ended up just taking her to lunch papadaux for some nice Cajun food. She is tiny if she didn't have the face tats you would think she was like 14 in person. She does have a cute smile, and makes that fish face which is cute on her. Judging by her pics, her voice doesn't really match up, I was thinking like cute demeanor kinda high pitch and it's straight hood hahaha. It just doesn't match to me. She told me she's new at SB only really had 1, oh booyyy. Nothing bare, she's not on BC she doesn't like taking them. She doesn't do bare because she did bare with her baby daddy and ofcourse baby popped out * 6 month old* so everything covered. I did not partake something felt off? Idk the house I dropped her off at is way to big for 2 people which she says only her and her friend. No way, that's a 3 bed house and it looked pretty decent. I saw a purple dodge charger parked down the street on the bottom of the hill lights and engine were off but saw 2 people sitting in it it just gave off bad vibes but didn't feel in danger. She's been asking to send her some money for her time, which I probably will idk yet kinda sour from the whole thing. Waste of gas and if the lunch was decent atleast the food was, she was constantly on her phone which just says fuck this ya know like you are a potential SB your attention should be toward me. Why'all can give it a go, I think ima try that one Hispanic SB that tried to say she was pregnant haha she looks drop dead gorgeous.

[TooHotForYou]

Meeting her next Wednesday. Seems legit but spidey senses for some reason. Seems maybe TGTBT. https://members.seeking.com/member/1...a-ddfa127c44e1.

[LouisHernandez]

I'm heading to pick her up now I'll let why'all know how it goes haha.

I hope the other head doesn't get you in trouble. I can see the desire to take the risk.

[CarmelFight]

That's a hot hoodrat. Somebody posted her before. It all depends on the vibe she present thru texting. Meet her in public at a coffee shop during the day somewhere. If she won't do that, I wouldn't mess with her. Too much risk getting jumped by some thugs or worse.

I'm heading to pick her up now I'll let why'all know how it goes haha.

[People Pleasur]

I chatted with her a while back. She is into the swinging lifestyle, but she quoted me 500 ppm when I chatted with her.

She quoted me $100 for the privilege of taking her out for dinner and drinks to see if we connect. Then $500 per hour to host if she thinks it went well. Ummmm. No thanks.

[LouisHernandez]

Hehe you got that hoodrat itch, idk some members talked about it few posts ago. Be careful if she is legit, banging a hoodrat especially a cute one is like top on the list for me too but the dangers of banging a hoodrat and things go wrong with arrangement might get jumped or ambushed randomly.

That's a hot hoodrat. Somebody posted her before. It all depends on the vibe she present thru texting. Meet her in public at a coffee shop during the day somewhere. If she won't do that, I wouldn't mess with her. Too much risk getting jumped by some thugs or worse.

[LouisHernandez]

It's not bragging (ok it's not ALL bragging), it's educational. Guys need to understand they don't have to accept GPS. And based on some of the reactions from guys on this thread and the number of guys I've got PMing me asking for contact info I think you're the outlier if you think these hotties are "gross" but what we each like is subjective. I find blonde pretty stereotypical college girls to both look boring and be boring in bed (though I wouldn't say no if the amount was right. I suspect I have more broad taste than you, meaning I likely like what you like but also like stuff you don't, but having more targeted tastes is ok!). I think you and I both have smashed NattyNat; she was nice enough and I found her cute, but I think most the girls I've linked here are hotter than her. I have a thing for tattoo'd alt / goth girls. If the market I'm targeting just so happens to not be as inflated because higher spenders target a different market (non tattood spinners or what not) and I leverage that to get good PPM rates, that's just smart business.

Some guys post links to girls 40+ who look rode hard and put up wet, and I wouldn't bother messaging them, but if that's what they like then good for them. I just hope they understand they don't have to pay Lamborghini prices for Kia cars LOL.

Like any other market, the more options you're open to the better pricing you can find. If you ONLY target Lamborghini's, then you're going to pay more than someone who is looking at ALL sports cars. And just because I like a Corvette more than a Lambo, and it happens to be that Corvettes cost less, doesn't make either of us wrong. But it's good for everyone to know that you can shop for both; the lot doesn't JUST have Lambos on it LOL. And for guys who like both Lambos AND Corvettes, well then can decide what's more important to them: paying Lambo prices, or getting more value out of the Corvette purchase.

And finally, for those with a more business minded thought process, we all know that market alternatives do drive the overall market prices down. Lambos cost a ton, but they would cost even more if Corvette's didn't exist.

Also, your pics didn't attach FYI.

Finding women is a game of arbitrage and patience. Find value where others don't desire it or see it. Good negotiators don't get in a hurry either so play it slow at first and don't seem needy. Get a whole bunch in your queue and hopefully close 1 or 2.