"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[BrownSugaTwo]

I clicked the link in your post to view her profile. Only 5 minutes later, she messaged me her number and said to text her if I want videos. That's a red flag for a scammer, IMO.

She did the same with me.

[JokeKing11]

Don't have her link but name's AmberM in atlanta / athens.

Scammer. Beware.

[GoneForGood97]

Supply & Demand, let's talk about this in regards to the Atlanta metro. To pay those prices you need an income of better than $200 k a year, only 5% of all households in Metro Atlanta make that. This gives you a take home pay of about $12 k a month after taxes, & everything else. I am willing to bet that less than 2% of men in those households have ever sugared dated before. Also of those 2%, more than half of them are married. There are not 50 k men in Atlanta making this amount of money, I'd be willing to say it's less than 500 men total in the metro who can afford $1 k meetups. About 1/2 of those guys are very wealthy & there are other options available for them which we non multi-millionaires don't have access to. Is there anybody on this board who can write a $5 k check to the SPCA, a single guy who writes a check like that is going to have instagram models he can date. Also married men need a income of around $350 k or greater, as the wife & kids get a large portion of that money, plus the wife is going to be asking?'s about where $2-4 k a month is going.

This is exactly correct. Guys don't realize just how much the numbers favor them. There are ALOT more SBs than SDs. And not even "a lot" like a 60-40 split. There are literally hundreds of girls for every 1 "real" SD the site (not counting guys who just browse, or who using the site to try and get nudes).

It turns out, pretty girls are a lot more common than 6 figure incomes. And the guys who make that kind of money are dating the top 1% of the top 1%. So even the 8 and 9's on the site are going to get largely ignored by the true big spenders because they are only going for perfect 10's. Why wouldn't they, if they are willing to spend $1 K per date?

Which means the vast, vast majority of the girls will never get propositioned by those guys. So you're not competing with them, your just competing with 1) guys who treat the girls like their hookers, 2) lazy guys who don't bother to try and connect and just want to get laid and 3) guys with absolutely 0 game. All you have to be is semi decent, willing to have a conversation, and treat them like people, and it's amazing just how much you can outkick your coverage with only a little effort and a very affordable allowance.

[GoneForGood97]

I disagree. This is coming from girls that are in there 20's-40's that are a 6 at best, but if you want to share some profiles to prove your point, I'm happy to do the research.

I don't know what you're doing wrong, but this wasn't my experience at all in Jan when my sub was last active. In the past 6 months I haven't paid more than 300, and nothing makes me think going rates have increased much in the past 40 days since last time I was actively seeking. In the past few months I've had a early 20s hottie for 200 plus hotel, a thicc fit early 30s chick for 100-150 plus hotel who I see every few weeks when our schedules align, and my current regular is a late 20s alt e-girl model that I see for 300 and she hosts. And no, I won't provide info on girls I'm currently seeing, learned that lesson when one of you fucked up a good thing I had with someone year before last.

Granted, I'm pretty quick to eject someone who comes off as too materialistic or cash focused since I'm looking for more than just an escort-with-more-steps, and of course I've spoken with girls suffering from GPS wanting 500-600 or higher. But I cut and move on pretty quickly from those.

I think I've posted reviews of at least 2 girls semi-recently, Isabelle (though I may have just confirmed someone eles's review not posted a full one) and FriendlyPunk, who are both in the 300-200 and fun times, and even banged out Mia, a girl others have posted about having GPS but I was balls deep in for 300 per meet a couple times before Christmas. I'm not a good looking guy, and my "game" is ok at best, but if you're paying more than 400 per meet, you need to reevaluate how you go engage with these girls. Just my 2 cents. You can search through my post history for reviews in this forum for those or others like NattyNat, another early-to-mid 30s girl who asks 400 but can be had for 300 if you don't come off as an asshole or creep. Hell, here's one I wouldn't see because she can't host and has no car, but was dtf for 300 https://members.seeking.com/member/719691b4-0fa9-48e9-abfa-e3b2c18cc031.

[NewAnonymousName]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...f-f898d8f47ee6

Started out OK, moved off site to text and she offered to come for an overnight or few hours if I'd per her Uber which I agreed to. Then she hit me with the, "my cashapp is. ". I said I'll pay for the Uber myself on my account. She insisted I cashapp her the money to get her own Uber. After saying no to that she agrees that she'll still see me if I Uber her, great I think. Then she hits me with the I don't do head. And she wants $5. No bare either. Pass on this one guys unless you just want to hit it. She's real and looks like the pics from what she sent me off site, but that's not worth it to me. I'm pretty flexible with the protection part, but saying no head is a deal breaker.

I clicked the link in your post to view her profile. Only 5 minutes later, she messaged me her number and said to text her if I want videos. That's a red flag for a scammer, IMO.

[Roddee]

Said $$.5 to me, nothing bare, no head and no kissing. Seems legit, but I can look a fine women anywhere. . . For less.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...f-f898d8f47ee6

Started out OK, moved off site to text and she offered to come for an overnight or few hours if I'd per her Uber which I agreed to. Then she hit me with the, "my cashapp is. ". I said I'll pay for the Uber myself on my account. She insisted I cashapp her the money to get her own Uber. After saying no to that she agrees that she'll still see me if I Uber her, great I think. Then she hits me with the I don't do head. And she wants $5. No bare either. Pass on this one guys unless you just want to hit it. She's real and looks like the pics from what she sent me off site, but that's not worth it to me. I'm pretty flexible with the protection part, but saying no head is a deal breaker.

[MacLuvin]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...f-f898d8f47ee6

Started out OK, moved off site to text and she offered to come for an overnight or few hours if I'd per her Uber which I agreed to. Then she hit me with the, "my cashapp is. ". I said I'll pay for the Uber myself on my account. She insisted I cashapp her the money to get her own Uber. After saying no to that she agrees that she'll still see me if I Uber her, great I think. Then she hits me with the I don't do head. And she wants $5. No bare either. Pass on this one guys unless you just want to hit it. She's real and looks like the pics from what she sent me off site, but that's not worth it to me. I'm pretty flexible with the protection part, but saying no head is a deal breaker.

[CatchNGo]

Talked to her around Christmas. She seemed to be a cool laid back chick. We had good convos. She sent me some sexy pics. I teased her about being a instagram model. She got offended. Come to find out she is or was an actual professional urban model. She sent me several magazines she was featured in. You can search AmazynBeauty on Facebook to see more about her. I don't believe we ever discussed an allowance. We did set a day to hang out. To my forgetfulness, I set a dentist appointment 3 months ahead for that very day. I was actually getting dressed to go meet her. Then I get a text reminding of my appointment. So I explained the mishap and apologized. Told we can reschedule and I would make it up to her. At this point I felt like she probably was irritated, understandably so. So I just didn't bother to reach back out. Surprisingly she reaches back out to me a month later and sends some risque pics. I try to get her to meet again but she wasn't having it. I was like well why did you contact me again if you don't want to hook up. She says she doesn't want to be made a fool of again. Anyway If you guys want to give her a try go ahead. She is legit, just make sure you can stick to your meet up date.

[CatchNGo]

Messaged back and forth with her at the end of last year. Says she works for an insurance company. Seem to be a nice girl. Says she would take 250. But for some reason I just kept thinking I saw her on listcrawler before. So I never pulled the trigger. I am not looking for pro's on Seeking if I can help it. For all I know she may not be. I didn't feeel like doing the research.

[CatchNGo]

I talked to this one a few months ago. She says she is a dancer. Seem to be a cool chick. We had good convo. Says she will take 250. But then she hits me with, she needs a deposit. I don't play that. So I stop communications with her. A couple weeks later she hits me out the blue. Once again good conversation. She likes sports and says she use to play basketball. We never talked about hooking up when she reached back out. Not sure if she is a scam or not. But if you want to try your luck go ahead.

[Peter Johnson]

I read the poor review of SmartAngel, and MyPleasure1215's profile disappeared while we were in the middle of a promising chat. So I'm back to square one.

Can anyone recommend any MILFs in their 30's or 40's who are easy going and don't have unreasonable money expectations?

Missy in Alpharetta qualified, but I don't know if her profile is still active: https://members.seeking.com/member/5...9-87bc3b0e650d.

[MrVmp]

Thanks. I got the same vibe from her that you did, so I was on the fence about seeing her when her last profile disappeared. I usually assume that women whose profiles disappear and then reappear with a slightly altered name are getting booted from the site for talking PPM or trying to sell pictures. That assumption makes me a little more skeptical of her.

Still looking for decent MILFs if anyone has any recommendations.

I was in contact with her for awhile. She claimed to be out of state and hit me up when she came back to GA with a sob story and wanted me to buy some pic to help her out. Not my thing, so I ended contact after that.

[SeekingHead]

It's supply and demand, and there are a lot of attractive women out there, but there are 3.9 billion horny men on the planet. (Or ok, take out the gay guys and little kids, and you still have over 3 billion dudes). And men generally work hard and earn $, and they spend some of it on porn and adult entertainment. I'm glad only fans wasn't around when I was younger, because would have been tempting, I'm sure.

But yes, the hottest girls can do only fans and not even have to meet anyone in person. So we just are left with ones who are less than smoking hot, or hot ones who really enjoy sex. I paid a girl $500 per meet a couple of times last year, and it was worth it, because she was so my type and an incredible piece of ass. But I can't afford to do that regularly and $1k is just not reasonable for me, under any circumstances. Most of the time, I go for $250 to $300 max. I suppose $1 k is really just equivalent to two meets with the $500 girl, but I just am not going to do it. It's not even up for serious consideration, given my finances.

It depends on how much disposable income you have, and I'm not even wealthy. So there are plenty of guys where $1 k means little to nothing, and they compete with us, for the limited number of extra hot girls.

I know I'm mostly stating the obvious here, but just good to occasionally give myself a reality check, as well.

Supply & Demand, let's talk about this in regards to the Atlanta metro. To pay those prices you need an income of better than $200 k a year, only 5% of all households in Metro Atlanta make that. This gives you a take home pay of about $12 k a month after taxes, & everything else. I am willing to bet that less than 2% of men in those households have ever sugared dated before. Also of those 2%, more than half of them are married. There are not 50 k men in Atlanta making this amount of money, I'd be willing to say it's less than 500 men total in the metro who can afford $1 k meetups. About 1/2 of those guys are very wealthy & there are other options available for them which we non multi-millionaires don't have access to. Is there anybody on this board who can write a $5 k check to the SPCA, a single guy who writes a check like that is going to have instagram models he can date. Also married men need a income of around $350 k or greater, as the wife & kids get a large portion of that money, plus the wife is going to be asking?'s about where $2-4 k a month is going.

[NewAnonymousName]

She is back with a new profile if you are really interested. https://members.seeking.com/member/6...9-a8ff97b6a3d9.

I chatted with her and she seemed fine other than really only willing to talk about doing a massage, but I never pulled the trigger because that seemed more like a UTR than SB.

Thanks. I got the same vibe from her that you did, so I was on the fence about seeing her when her last profile disappeared. I usually assume that women whose profiles disappear and then reappear with a slightly altered name are getting booted from the site for talking PPM or trying to sell pictures. That assumption makes me a little more skeptical of her.

Still looking for decent MILFs if anyone has any recommendations.

[2me4Looking2]

It's not the norm. Stop talking to wannabe instagram models or the younger than 21 girls, and talk to some girls that are 8's instead of 10's, and you'll find plenty of 200-300 girls.

I disagree. This is coming from girls that are in there 20's-40's that are a 6 at best, but if you want to share some profiles to prove your point, I'm happy to do the research.