"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Ripvan12]

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...serId=71697141

Figured I would share this one with you guys so you wouldn't waste your time. Said she had a previous arrangement in which she was paid allowance weekly and taken on shopping sprees and given gifts on top of that. Agreed to PPM but wanted $800 to $1,000 per meet. Talk about GPS. She's way too old, way too overweight, and way too delusional to think she's going to get that. But of course that's the state of the world when it comes to most girls today. Even in the real world they think they're going to get some man that makes $500,000 a year to wife them and give them everything including nannies and maids to do everything for them. And all of this after having their backs blown out by Chad's and Tyrone's until they are 28 years old and think there are more valuable and desirable at that age after all of that. Haha.

Wow. I used to smash this one 5-6 years (and 60 pounds) ago when she was in college. Always pulled overnight sessions, multi-pop. No more than $200 per meet. She was a fun bang but no way would I pay $800 for the experience. Crazy.

[SugarDaddio]

Just wondering if anybody has gotten anywhere with this one. All we do is chat. I can't get her to commit to a meet. Just wondering if it the way she is or is it just me. Any input would be appreciated.

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...f-0ce6e74cb7c8

As always may the pussy be with you.

SD.

[VladVonK]

I've had good luck treating it as a step up from regular dating. I don't mention money until they do. Same with sex, leave it alone except to ask if they're comfortable being intimate with an older man. I live well outside the city, so I always get a room and mention that. Some of these girls just want to be spoiled a bit. Over coffee, if the conversation is good and she's making lots of eye contact, suggest dinner at an upscale restaurant. Then start working it like a vanilla date.

Thanks for the advice, I'm actually only 3 years older than her. Just obese with a lot of cash and I'd rather do sbsd instead of dating while I'm losing weight.

[BumbaCloth]

Any info on her?

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...2-d0c19ac85994

[DArrow404]

I don't think this is the same girl. I also saw Sugarbabyyyy20, and I kept her snap around for a bit, and her neck tattoo is different I think.

If I'm wrong and this is the same girl, the tl; dr is she's boring, mechanical, felt like what I imagine fucking a mannequin would be like, but a cute spinner. She really likes BBC, so if you're black you might get more fun. Here's the nudes I got from her way back when, you can decide for yourself if it's the same girl.

I fucked her for 200 and she hosted, and I feel I spent too much. CFS, BBJ no CIM.

It is, I have a pic of her with the exact same neck tattoo that matches the one on her new profile.

[Hal1957]

Anyone else getting this before logging in to SA? I've seen it for about a week now, the site pauses then moves to the login screen. WTF are they looking for now? BTW I use a separate browser for SA, never save logins and never use it to browse anything but SA. I know for a while last year I was getting blocked when logging onto SA using a browser in Incognito mode.

[Hal1957]

I've had good luck treating it as a step up from regular dating. I don't mention money until they do. Same with sex, leave it alone except to ask if they're comfortable being intimate with an older man. I live well outside the city, so I always get a room and mention that. Some of these girls just want to be spoiled a bit. Over coffee, if the conversation is good and she's making lots of eye contact, suggest dinner at an upscale restaurant. Then start working it like a vanilla date.

Hey guys one more bit of advice if you don't mind.

I have this second prospect, 28 F, used to be thin and cute but now a little chunky and self conscious about it she uploaded and showed me some more recent private cute pics on the site then immediately deleted them. She says she's been on and off the site a while but never met anyone from there yet. At first I thought BS but her profile seems she wants a more organic relationship. I found her fb because I'm good like that and she's definitely not a pro, looks like a lonely dorky cat lady. We've been texting here and there a couple days but she is busy working two jobs and works weekends so we have yet to meet. I think she is legit cause a lot of her fb posts are memes about being broke lonely or working too much haha.

She has yet to bring up anything regarding sexual stuff or arrangements which I think is a positive and is eager to meet for starbucks. I've read stickies here and on eccie for bedding the utr newbs but thought I'd ask for more advice here..

[VladVonK]

Tell her you're fine with 1200/ month, but you'll need her to start with a weekly allowance to build trust with her before you can start paying a month at a time. Pay her 300 a week (300 x4 week=1200 month) and chances are she'll never bring up the monthly again. If she insists on being paid the full 1200 on the first visit then will see you every week avoid like the plague. She'll take your 1200, fuck you once, then you'll never see her again. Old scam. Stick to PPM or weekly (but only cash in person). Even if you feel comfortable enough with them to commit to a month in advance, just think of it this way: would she give you a months work of fucking and not expect an allownce till the end of the month? Of course not, why would she trust someone she's never met? This goes both ways.

Yeah my gut has warned me a few times with this one but she's so hot and the rate seems too good to walk away just now. For one she's tried a few times to get me to send her sugar over cashapp for tease pics, I have ignored yet she sent me a few videos already. She was wanting weekly or bi weekly allowance so I think I can get away with in person cash like you were saying.

I should also add, I have yet to even meet her in person. We were supposed to meet this Monday for coffee but she couldn't wait that long before I got the "what do you want out of this" question. This for me is the biggest red flag after the cash for vids tease.

[VladVonK]

Meet and greet is perfectly fine way to start. Just remember the golden rule: only sugar for sugar, and no sugar means no sugar. In other words, don't pay her any allowance just for dinner or just to go get a coffee (you can pay for the actual dinner or coffee, that's fine, just don't pay her $ until you're both in a bed).

Regarding when to bring up allowance and sex, I usually ask "What are you looking for in an arrangement?" The question is vague enough that the way they answer will tell you a little about who they are and what they are looking for. If they answer immediately with a dollar figure, then you know she's experienced. If she says something about no strings attached or casual and fun, or some other description of the type of relationship, then she's either a little experienced or new but done some research. If they answer in that way ask them what they are looking for from their sugar daddy. Some girls really do just want nice dinners. I had one SB that really just wanted someone to pay for her to get a mani / pedi and a massage once a month, but was willing to meet and fuck every week (didn't last long she moved away after only a few weeks. Still, we fucked every week for a month and I spent maybe $150 total plus took her to dinner a few times. She was also a little older, like early 30's).

Once she answers the "what are you looking for in an arrangement" question, I normally will then tell her I want to make sure we'll have chemistry, and ask her if she's comfortable talking about sex. If she is, then I just go into a few questions about what she enjoys, what her favorite positions are, whether she likes sweet and romantic or rough and dominant, etc etc. If you're pretty good at discussing this it can be really fun, a turn on for both you, and is usually a great time to get some nudes from her.

Thank you gold advice. I'll pm you if things go well haha.

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...f-fdf403f8cb0e

Sweet girl. Open to many things. Rather large though. I won't repeat but may be there are some takers wanted to share.

She has been reviewed many times on here, in the past. I saw her twice myself. I agree definitely a sweet girl and glad to hear she is still out there, and having fun.

[GoneForGood97]

Hey guys one more bit of advice if you don't mind.

I have this second prospect, 28 F, used to be thin and cute but now a little chunky and self conscious about it she uploaded and showed me some more recent private cute pics on the site then immediately deleted them. She says she's been on and off the site a while but never met anyone from there yet. At first I thought BS but her profile seems she wants a more organic relationship. I found her fb because I'm good like that and she's definitely not a pro, looks like a lonely dorky cat lady. We've been texting here and there a couple days but she is busy working two jobs and works weekends so we have yet to meet. I think she is legit cause a lot of her fb posts are memes about being broke lonely or working too much haha.

She has yet to bring up anything regarding sexual stuff or arrangements which I think is a positive and is eager to meet for starbucks. I've read stickies here and on eccie for bedding the utr newbs but thought I'd ask for more advice here.

Do I just keep treating this as if I'm dating a normal woman, don't mention arrangements anything? I know the second date after M&G is usually sex but I was thinking I'd take her to a brunch or dinner instead? I get the feeling she's lonely af wants to be taken out by a normal dude. Then after that try to bring her to my place.

Anyway I'm a moron thanks for any advice here.

Meet and greet is perfectly fine way to start. Just remember the golden rule: only sugar for sugar, and no sugar means no sugar. In other words, don't pay her any allowance just for dinner or just to go get a coffee (you can pay for the actual dinner or coffee, that's fine, just don't pay her $ until you're both in a bed).

Regarding when to bring up allowance and sex, I usually ask "What are you looking for in an arrangement?" The question is vague enough that the way they answer will tell you a little about who they are and what they are looking for. If they answer immediately with a dollar figure, then you know she's experienced. If she says something about no strings attached or casual and fun, or some other description of the type of relationship, then she's either a little experienced or new but done some research. If they answer in that way ask them what they are looking for from their sugar daddy. Some girls really do just want nice dinners. I had one SB that really just wanted someone to pay for her to get a mani / pedi and a massage once a month, but was willing to meet and fuck every week (didn't last long she moved away after only a few weeks. Still, we fucked every week for a month and I spent maybe $150 total plus took her to dinner a few times. She was also a little older, like early 30's).

Once she answers the "what are you looking for in an arrangement" question, I normally will then tell her I want to make sure we'll have chemistry, and ask her if she's comfortable talking about sex. If she is, then I just go into a few questions about what she enjoys, what her favorite positions are, whether she likes sweet and romantic or rough and dominant, etc etc. If you're pretty good at discussing this it can be really fun, a turn on for both you, and is usually a great time to get some nudes from her.

[GoneForGood97]

Hey guys, looking for some advice on my first possible arrangement.

Got my first likely prospect. Non escort non pro but definitely not first time around the block(I found her fb with what looks like a normal chica with a big family but with pics of ugly ex boyfriends I'm thinking past SD haha), 28 F mom of two, reasonably cute reasonably fit Latina. She says she doesn't do ppm LOL but wants just shy of $1200 a month where we meetup for as far as I can tell a multi hour session all bare anything I want once a week but can't do overnights because of kid, although I need to test drive to be sure.

From my math this averages to ~$275 a week for a multiple pop BBFS which I think is a good deal unless she's a dead fish or trying to take advantage. I get the spidey sense I shouldn't agree to any allowances without first fucking her though...

Any words of wisdom?

Tell her you're fine with 1200/ month, but you'll need her to start with a weekly allowance to build trust with her before you can start paying a month at a time. Pay her 300 a week (300 x4 week=1200 month) and chances are she'll never bring up the monthly again. If she insists on being paid the full 1200 on the first visit then will see you every week avoid like the plague. She'll take your 1200, fuck you once, then you'll never see her again. Old scam. Stick to PPM or weekly (but only cash in person). Even if you feel comfortable enough with them to commit to a month in advance, just think of it this way: would she give you a months work of fucking and not expect an allownce till the end of the month? Of course not, why would she trust someone she's never met? This goes both ways.

[BuckHeadBarry]

She's real. Just super transactional and lots of rules.

She is real, however, she's very young and immature. When I finish.

[BuckHeadBarry]

Pretty much the same experience here. She sent a nude after we moved to text and asked for 500 but said she couldn't host. When I said that's too much plus a hotel room she said she may be able to host very occasionally and for a short amount of time as she has family that stops by unannounced from time to time.

I met her for coffee, a couple months back, she has a serious tomboy vibe and wanted 600. I kindly declined.

[VladVonK]

Hey guys one more bit of advice if you don't mind.

I have this second prospect, 28 F, used to be thin and cute but now a little chunky and self conscious about it she uploaded and showed me some more recent private cute pics on the site then immediately deleted them. She says she's been on and off the site a while but never met anyone from there yet. At first I thought BS but her profile seems she wants a more organic relationship. I found her fb because I'm good like that and she's definitely not a pro, looks like a lonely dorky cat lady. We've been texting here and there a couple days but she is busy working two jobs and works weekends so we have yet to meet. I think she is legit cause a lot of her fb posts are memes about being broke lonely or working too much haha.

She has yet to bring up anything regarding sexual stuff or arrangements which I think is a positive and is eager to meet for starbucks. I've read stickies here and on eccie for bedding the utr newbs but thought I'd ask for more advice here.

Do I just keep treating this as if I'm dating a normal woman, don't mention arrangements anything? I know the second date after M&G is usually sex but I was thinking I'd take her to a brunch or dinner instead? I get the feeling she's lonely af wants to be taken out by a normal dude. Then after that try to bring her to my place.

Anyway I'm a moron thanks for any advice here.