"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Member #6718]

I'm 47 and maybe look 42. I've given up on the 18-21 group but I had some great times with them when I was 42. They are the very best if you can land them, but I'm just too old now to deal with all the randomness and flakiness from that age group.

I am 50 and only recently decided to dabble in this age range. A lot of flakiness for sure and I don't get as many responses with the bigger age gap, but damn it's worth it when you pull it off. My current one steady SB just turned 21 and is amazing.

[LouisHernandez]

I am not in my 20's or 30's anymore and have the same mindset going into these interactions. Previously it was mostly looks, now it's what I say / do. Ironically I get more 18-22 kitty in my 40's than I ever did in my 20's, and more frequent.

I'm 47 and maybe look 42. I've given up on the 18-21 group but I had some great times with them when I was 42. They are the very best if you can land them, but I'm just too old now to deal with all the randomness and flakiness from that age group.

[WillDuff]

My phone works fine but 3 days ago out of the blue I get this error message. I have reset password and tried a vpn. No answer from their support of course.

[Member #6718]

A couple of guys have reached out about taking trips with girls & meeting girls from other countries off seeking. I've done this I met a girl from Russia & Romania, flew them into Spain when I was on vacation there for 3 & 4 days, both times I've paid right at $1 k. I had vetted both by doing a video chat on what's app before I sent them the plane fare. I'm headed back to Spain for 3 weeks this summer, & have been chatting with a couple of girls on a website called travelgirls kinda of like seeking but girls who are looking for guys to pay for their travel & some spending cash. Very much UTR types mostly who want to get wined & dined on a nice vacation. Also quite a few of them want to visit the US so if your looking for a girl on your arm while vacationing this may be a good site for you.

https://www.travelgirls.com/

Interesting, will give this a try.

Seeking as a sister site called MissTravel.com which is similar premise. I used it for a while and while I met one gorgeous woman my own age where we had some fun weekends together, otherwise it was a complete failure.

[AmpFanatl]

It's a mindset thing. I'm not as attractive as I use to be when I was young. I pulled them in. However my chat game has improved. I pretty much tell all of them I want them but don't want them. Sex only nsa. In s nicer way. They love that and it works for me.

I view them all like a car rental. It's nice exciting but let's not get attached you don't own it. So enjoy the ride while you can.

I am not in my 20's or 30's anymore and have the same mindset going into these interactions. Previously it was mostly looks, now it's what I say / do. Ironically I get more 18-22 kitty in my 40's than I ever did in my 20's, and more frequent.

[SeekingHead]

A couple of guys have reached out about taking trips with girls & meeting girls from other countries off seeking. I've done this I met a girl from Russia & Romania, flew them into Spain when I was on vacation there for 3 & 4 days, both times I've paid right at $1 k. I had vetted both by doing a video chat on what's app before I sent them the plane fare. I'm headed back to Spain for 3 weeks this summer, & have been chatting with a couple of girls on a website called travelgirls kinda of like seeking but girls who are looking for guys to pay for their travel & some spending cash. Very much UTR types mostly who want to get wined & dined on a nice vacation. Also quite a few of them want to visit the US so if your looking for a girl on your arm while vacationing this may be a good site for you.

https://www.travelgirls.com/

[TattoedDaddy1]

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[LouisHernandez]

I started in my mid-30's. I'm no multimillionare but I'm debt free and own my own home, but I don't think net worth is actually as important as seeking thinks it is. For me, Tinder and other online dating apps suck and have incredibly low success since I'm not an attractive guy (the Tinder reddit posts the first 2 rules of Tinder: 1) Be attractive and 2) Don't be unattractive LOL). I've been doing this a little over a year now and have scored a ton, found some really great borderline relationships, and much much prefer this to dealing with escorts.

Regarding not bringing up the arrangement, I've had it happen a few times, but it's very rare. The girl has to either 1) seriously like you over text and / or 2) find talking donation awkward and hopes you'll bring it up. During my last active sub back in Sept I banged out a cute kinky red head co-ed who just hated talking about it and so did not, but after we finished I gave her what I thought was fair (my standard 200 since I picked up a hotel) and she pouted, said she normally gets 400. I gave her an extra 50 and she left without any fuss, but later blocked me. So that's the risk you take. On the other hand I did bang out a 19 year old near the beginning of my sugaring who was just happy to go out on a date that didn't involve fast food, and didn't give a rats ass about $. So if you don't bring up the arrangement, it can go either way.

I never bring up arrangement and you just clearly articulated the reason. You gave her $200, which is my standard fare also. However everyone of these girls likely thinks $200 is on the cheaper side pre-banging. Post banging they've received immediate pleasure and rarely complain. If they request arrangement dollar details pre-banging, I'd tell them $200 and if they go GPS, then I may go $300 or try negotiation tricky like saying $500 a week for 2 times a week knowing this will be a one time thing. Then I get off for $250 or $300 for a one and done situation. New pussy commands some premium even for a cheapass like me, but after that it's value crashes like a dotcom stock.

[HollowGuy]

Thanks for sharing. And I'm the same, not attractive, average looks and a little overweight.

Started working before I was a teenager so never got any female attention and don't have the gift of gab so full on uphill climb for me, but even the last few days since finding this forum, I've noticed my text game improve and rate of responses drastically go up!

Had a Latin / Korean baddie on the hook and invited me out without any mention of money or arrangement but work ducked me and lost her!

Have to give you all props! The info and advice you generously share definitely works.

It's a mindset thing. I'm not as attractive as I use to be when I was young. I pulled them in. However my chat game has improved. I pretty much tell all of them I want them but don't want them. Sex only nsa. In s nicer way. They love that and it works for me.

I view them all like a car rental. It's nice exciting but let's not get attached you don't own it. So enjoy the ride while you can.

[TattoedDaddy1]

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Time for you to go, you're just gonna be one of those asshole drama queens that is always starting shit. I've probably banned you before.

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[TattoedDaddy1]

Yes, I have noticed that the sugar dating thread for other cities, here on USAG, is usually not nearly as good as the one we have here in ATL. Even the one for Vegas is relatively weak. We have a really active community in this thread and I truly appreciate everyone's contributions, as well.

I want to move to Utah, but what I would miss the most are the Southern girls, especially on SA. We really do have it good in the Southeast, at least if you like quality sugar baby opportunities.

For some reason I was browsing the girls in Perth Australia, and we have hotter girls here in ATL area. That is true for most places, although depends on your tastes.

I have a good luck at a great many cities.

-Las Vegas.

-North Carolina.

-Montana.

-Northern Idaho.

-Aspen Colorado.

-Northern Nevada.

-north west both Oregon and Washington.

And each of those areas I have a regular it when I'm in the area that they see me. I tend to keep in contact with people that I have good experiences with!

[KingHorama2]

I started in my mid-30's. I'm no multimillionare but I'm debt free and own my own home, but I don't think net worth is actually as important as seeking thinks it is. For me, Tinder and other online dating apps suck and have incredibly low success since I'm not an attractive guy (the Tinder reddit posts the first 2 rules of Tinder: 1) Be attractive and 2) Don't be unattractive LOL). I've been doing this a little over a year now and have scored a ton, found some really great borderline relationships, and much much prefer this to dealing with escorts.

Regarding not bringing up the arrangement, I've had it happen a few times, but it's very rare. The girl has to either 1) seriously like you over text and / or 2) find talking donation awkward and hopes you'll bring it up. During my last active sub back in Sept I banged out a cute kinky red head co-ed who just hated talking about it and so did not, but after we finished I gave her what I thought was fair (my standard 200 since I picked up a hotel) and she pouted, said she normally gets 400. I gave her an extra 50 and she left without any fuss, but later blocked me. So that's the risk you take. On the other hand I did bang out a 19 year old near the beginning of my sugaring who was just happy to go out on a date that didn't involve fast food, and didn't give a rats ass about $. So if you don't bring up the arrangement, it can go either way.

Thanks for sharing. And I'm the same, not attractive, average looks and a little overweight.

Started working before I was a teenager so never got any female attention and don't have the gift of gab so full on uphill climb for me, but even the last few days since finding this forum, I've noticed my text game improve and rate of responses drastically go up!

Had a Latin / Korean baddie on the hook and invited me out without any mention of money or arrangement but work ducked me and lost her!

Have to give you all props! The info and advice you generously share definitely works.

[GoneForGood97]

The last few days posts have been informative and entertaining, especially for a newbie to the game, such that I am.

I am learning a fair bit from this forum and trying to improve my game, but all I seem to be finding is ppm asking for 500+.

I wanted to try and get a sense of the senior and more experienced members journeys. I just turned 39 and my NW is just over 1 mil. I started sugaring because my schedule is too hectic to meet traditionally and go through the rigamaroll of regular dating.

What age, NW and reason got you into sugaring. How did you navigate early on when you started and what lessons did you learn. And lastly, how is anyone finding SB's that don't bring up money? Every interaction I've had has involved them bringing up arrangement, ppm, or allowance or some form of payment.

I started in my mid-30's. I'm no multimillionare but I'm debt free and own my own home, but I don't think net worth is actually as important as seeking thinks it is. For me, Tinder and other online dating apps suck and have incredibly low success since I'm not an attractive guy (the Tinder reddit posts the first 2 rules of Tinder: 1) Be attractive and 2) Don't be unattractive LOL). I've been doing this a little over a year now and have scored a ton, found some really great borderline relationships, and much much prefer this to dealing with escorts.

Regarding not bringing up the arrangement, I've had it happen a few times, but it's very rare. The girl has to either 1) seriously like you over text and / or 2) find talking donation awkward and hopes you'll bring it up. During my last active sub back in Sept I banged out a cute kinky red head co-ed who just hated talking about it and so did not, but after we finished I gave her what I thought was fair (my standard 200 since I picked up a hotel) and she pouted, said she normally gets 400. I gave her an extra 50 and she left without any fuss, but later blocked me. So that's the risk you take. On the other hand I did bang out a 19 year old near the beginning of my sugaring who was just happy to go out on a date that didn't involve fast food, and didn't give a rats ass about $. So if you don't bring up the arrangement, it can go either way.

[Hal1957]

Something is off here. Look at the door in the picture. I measured my door with the same design features and she appears to be standing about 5' 4", probably in heels, no way she's 6' 2". The person who took the picture was standing at least six inches taller or holding the camera above his head. Unlikely. If I was in the market, I'd TOFTT and give her a grope. Since no one here admits to actually having seen her, it's more likely she's HAF and no one wants to share. But that's ok, some of the best sex I've ever had was with SBs that others dismissed without actually sampling. And then you ***** ***** ***** about the scammers and flakes. SMH.

Lordy, that ain't a lady.

[TattoedDaddy1]

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