"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**FarFarAway** · 01-06-23 11:08

Originally Posted by KingHorama2 [View Original Post]

The last few days posts have been informative and entertaining, especially for a newbie to the game, such that I am.

I am learning a fair bit from this forum and trying to improve my game, but all I seem to be finding is ppm asking for 500+.

I wanted to try and get a sense of the senior and more experienced members journeys. I just turned 39 and my NW is just over 1 mil. I started sugaring because my schedule is too hectic to meet traditionally and go through the rigamaroll of regular dating.

What age, NW and reason got you into sugaring. How did you navigate early on when you started and what lessons did you learn. And lastly, how is anyone finding SB's that don't bring up money? Every interaction I've had has involved them bringing up arrangement, ppm, or allowance or some form of payment.

I am past retirement age. I started in 2016. I had never heard of seeking or arrangements before then. I am not too into the escort idea, it seems fake, and I am all about real. I have a SO, but health issues mean no boom-boom. Sadly, not the sort of person to give me a hall pass, so I have to keep it on the DL. All of my SBs have helped w / this, getting the hotel rooms we FC in.

There are many many girls on SA who are really just under the radar escorts. There are some who are looking for something more. It is just a numbers game. You have to send out a bunch of messages on the site and spend a bunch of time courting them. And I mean that, like you would someone you were dating civi.

**DaRiv** · 01-06-23 10:40

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...b-efadbd984c0c ElenaRP.

This one is closer to Athens, but the SB thread in Athens seems to be focused on UGA SBs (which makes sense) and I know a few of you are closer to Athens than Atlanta.

She's real, sent a verification pic. Negotiated down to 200, said she was open to "everything" though FS is CFS. Did confirm BBJ as well. However, she's too far from me to be a real possibility, and in my 4 days of having a sub back I've got so many potentials much closer I have no desire to chase someone this far out. Still if you're nearish Athens, take a shot. She doesn't have a car, and so you'll need to pick her up and take her whereever you go for your date. Good luck!

Bruh.

I hope you know that's NOT a female. Unless you're just into that sort of thing.

**GoneForGood97** · 01-06-23 09:34

Originally Posted by PeterPan [View Original Post]

What is LC?

Listcrawler. They own a few different sites (but all look like they use the same template) all used for escort classifieds.

**Member #6704** · 01-06-23 08:03

Originally Posted by Rican2323 [View Original Post]

Damn really? You have the link to her ad? Would love to see that!

What is LC?

**Handle15** · 01-06-23 06:45

Originally Posted by Rican2323 [View Original Post]

Been speaking to this one recently and took it to text. Negotiating arrangements, but wanted to see if anyone had any experience with er. Any info is much appreciated!

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...9-8e50c16c26ed

Great lay, very nice / sexy / sensual person, treat her well. $500 firm.

**KingHorama2** · 01-06-23 03:04

Originally Posted by Rican2323 [View Original Post]

Been speaking to this one recently and took it to text. Negotiating arrangements, but wanted to see if anyone had any experience with er. Any info is much appreciated!

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...9-8e50c16c26ed

I talked to her a couple of days ago and moved to text. Gave her my schedule and requirements, her response and I quote "My ppms have thusfar been between 5-8. I'd ask for 7+" After 9 was late night so extra for hosting and I couldn't stay for long.

She was pleasant to talk to, but ghosted her due to ridiculousness.

**KingHorama2** · 01-06-23 02:55

The last few days posts have been informative and entertaining, especially for a newbie to the game, such that I am.

I am learning a fair bit from this forum and trying to improve my game, but all I seem to be finding is ppm asking for 500+.

I wanted to try and get a sense of the senior and more experienced members journeys. I just turned 39 and my NW is just over 1 mil. I started sugaring because my schedule is too hectic to meet traditionally and go through the rigamaroll of regular dating.

What age, NW and reason got you into sugaring. How did you navigate early on when you started and what lessons did you learn. And lastly, how is anyone finding SB's that don't bring up money? Every interaction I've had has involved them bringing up arrangement, ppm, or allowance or some form of payment.

**FarFarAway** · 01-06-23 01:57

Good job, GoneforGood97.

**FarFarAway** · 01-06-23 01:52

Originally Posted by PeterJohnson [View Original Post]

Yes, I have noticed that the sugar dating thread for other cities, here on USAG, is usually not nearly as good as the one we have here in ATL. Even the one for Vegas is relatively weak. We have a really active community in this thread and I truly appreciate everyone's contributions, as well.

I want to move to Utah, but what I would miss the most are the Southern girls, especially on SA. We really do have it good in the Southeast, at least if you like quality sugar baby opportunities.

For some reason I was browsing the girls in Perth Australia, and we have hotter girls here in ATL area. That is true for most places, although depends on your tastes.

Richmond was at one time the most active one, and I am sure the archive is still useful. I am in southern California, the LA thread is pretty active w / how-tos, and the mod, HollywoodGuy, is a master, though with his own peculiarities.

I'd challenge any of you to stack your girls up against those in SoCal. So many hotties, but also a lot of GPS. If I didn't have to worry about the SO catching me about the $, I'd have a hard time restraining myself with many of them. Like that earlier poster.

**GoneForGood97** · 01-05-23 23:51

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...b-efadbd984c0c ElenaRP.

This one is closer to Athens, but the SB thread in Athens seems to be focused on UGA SBs (which makes sense) and I know a few of you are closer to Athens than Atlanta.

She's real, sent a verification pic. Negotiated down to 200, said she was open to "everything" though FS is CFS. Did confirm BBJ as well. However, she's too far from me to be a real possibility, and in my 4 days of having a sub back I've got so many potentials much closer I have no desire to chase someone this far out. Still if you're nearish Athens, take a shot. She doesn't have a car, and so you'll need to pick her up and take her whereever you go for your date. Good luck!

**GoneForGood97** · 01-05-23 23:25

Originally Posted by TattoedDaddy1 [View Original Post]

I have been absorbing some of the conversations on here and I just have tp say, great content. And kudos to the honesty, does not happen often on the internet.

First I would like to address the opinion of GPS vs getting them to hookup for 3-500.I would agree with this providing you are looking to just hookup, there are some of us that get more pout of this than that. I don't need a hookup. I may be 50 but I can still land hot girls for free in their 20's. I am good looking and cool too be with so this is not why I am here. I want the lifestyle, not just hot girls on my dick, but the exchange, connection, dinner, shopping, traveling, great sex and of course the EGO trip. I get a lot out of paying them what they want and getting the whole 9 yards from them. Not talking them into a lower number and arguing with them about multiple pops LOL Each to their own but for me I want the red carpet if its available.

As for social media. I'm on none of it. No Facebook or anything. Its all fake, nobody is ever as cool in person as they are on social media. So I feel like its a waste of time. I have one pic on SA and write nothing about myself or what I want. Fuck 'them they can ask or fuck off!

None of this is meant to attack anyone just a point of view, and all points of view are distortions of the truth, so even mine is not that important LOL.

Stay safe fellas and thank you for being here!

So, I apologize in advance if I'm wrong here. Your user name just looked super familiar, and I finally remembered why. Kids, gather round, I'm about to give you a demonstration on why you should never use the same user name on multiple sites ESPECIALLY on the pay to play site AND the site you post reviews on for those you pay to play.

A few months ago I was messaging this real cute blonde up in Atlanta, and we were chatting about the sugar game. She mentions that for the most part she felt like SDs were higher quality than the random dudes she'd find on Tinder, except sometimes you find guys like this: she then texted me the attached screenshots and said to me "Fuck this guy. What made him think I'd respond well to that?..I'm ripe fodder for doms that think they're too good to 'pay for sex'. I feel sorry for submissives that fall for that shit." Now, maybe it's a complete coincidence that this guys user name is the same as yours, and I apologize if I'm lumping you in with this guy if you're not him. But dude if any girl from SA Google's your user name and spells it out (and people will because that's often how I find these girls social media accounts, and I'm sure some of them are as good or better at this than I am) they will very easily find your posts here.

So lesson 1) Don't use the same screen name across platforms, even if you very cutely replace "too" with "2". This is the only place I use this name, no where else.

Lesson 2) Thanks to the way you (or this dude that is not you but just happens to have the same user name) approached this hottie, she jumped into my bed for cheaper than she otherwise would have because I wasn't a disrespectful douche. And for the record she was a fantastic lay, very submissive in the best way, but she was too far away for me to make her my regular. So selfishly thanks for being so bad at talking to women online they happily jumped into bed with me. However, the reason you're having to pay so much for "red carpet treatment" isn't because you're paying a premium. I promise I get the red carpet from most of these girls with my standard 200-300 arrangements. But you're basically paying an asshole tax. If you didn't approach them as indicated in these texts, you'd find you'd get "red carpet" experiences without the tax, and in fact I bet my next paycheck I actually get better experiences than you do while paying way less because my approach isn't. Whatever the fuck this is LOL. You do you, but don't delude yourself into thinking you're paying more for a better experience. You're paying more because you come off as a dick, and you're very likely not getting the best the girl has to offer. That's not to say you're not having a good time, you probably are, but I promise you've had some experiences that were subpar (even if you didn't realize it) and the girl was only putting up with you because you were willing to overpay and doing just enough to get you off and get done. But hell, if you're getting your rocks off with hot girls, do what you want. But in the spirit of giving guys in this thread advice on sugaring, this is textbook case of what not to do.

**NewAnonymousName** · 01-05-23 23:25

Originally Posted by TattoedDaddy1 [View Original Post]

I have been absorbing some of the conversations on here and I just have tp say, great content. And kudos to the honesty, does not happen often on the internet.

First I would like to address the opinion of GPS vs getting them to hookup for 3-500.I would agree with this providing you are looking to just hookup, there are some of us that get more pout of this than that. I don't need a hookup. I may be 50 but I can still land hot girls for free in their 20's. I am good looking and cool too be with so this is not why I am here. I want the lifestyle, not just hot girls on my dick, but the exchange, connection, dinner, shopping, traveling, great sex and of course the EGO trip. I get a lot out of paying them what they want and getting the whole 9 yards from them. Not talking them into a lower number and arguing with them about multiple pops LOL Each to their own but for me I want the red carpet if its available.

Next I am a 3rd generation OG and Millionaire." I have not needed money since I took jimmy's milk money in the 3rd grade." quote from "Departed" So I don't think your net worth is relevant. Especially since there is a difference between liquidity and someone that just rakes in millions and has nothing to show for it. Its all point of view. Easiest thing I have ever done is make money LOL I have seen people with a net worth of 500 k more liquid than people who claim millions. Just my not so humble opinion.

As for social media. I'm on none of it. No Facebook or anything. Its all fake, nobody is ever as cool in person as they are on social media. So I feel like its a waste of time. I have one pic on SA and write nothing about myself or what I want. Fuck 'them they can ask or fuck off!

None of this is meant to attack anyone just a point of view, and all points of view are distortions of the truth, so even mine is not that important LOL.

Stay safe fellas and thank you for being here!

Several of us (including me) mentioned net worth only because a poster suggested that maybe it would be worth it to pay a thousand dollars PPM to a sugar baby over 30 years old if he was a multimillionaire. We were merely pointing out that we don't think older sugar babies are worth that much coin no matter how wealthy you are. No offense was intended to anyone who is still building their nest egg. I wish I'd spent money on women more often before the last few years when I finally started putting some effort into the game. I'd have less savings but better memories.

**Peter Johnson** · 01-05-23 22:53

Originally Posted by QuartJess [View Original Post]

Just north of 3 mills. LOL. I need to step my game up. The most I've gifted is 300 $, and I usually stay in the 250 $ range. Lately, I've had older 35-plus chicks quote me 400+ to meet. There's just no way I'd provide that to an older chick. I have a young 19 yr old that I gift 200 $ per meeting that I've been enjoying. She's submissive, allows BBFSCIP and allow multiple pops when we meet.

Looks good and yes CIP in a 19 y/o is all you need. Definitely would keep you at least fairly satisfied.

**Peter Johnson** · 01-05-23 22:36

Originally Posted by TattoedDaddy1 [View Original Post]

I have been absorbing some of the conversations on here and I just have tp say, great content. And kudos to the honesty, does not happen often on the internet.

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Stay safe fellas and thank you for being here!

Yes, I have noticed that the sugar dating thread for other cities, here on USAG, is usually not nearly as good as the one we have here in ATL. Even the one for Vegas is relatively weak. We have a really active community in this thread and I truly appreciate everyone's contributions, as well.

I want to move to Utah, but what I would miss the most are the Southern girls, especially on SA. We really do have it good in the Southeast, at least if you like quality sugar baby opportunities.

For some reason I was browsing the girls in Perth Australia, and we have hotter girls here in ATL area. That is true for most places, although depends on your tastes.