"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[LouisHernandez]

I definitely feel the winds of change on SA lately, the changes made to eliminate escort behavior have had a definite impact.

Opinions vary here of course, but I'm of the belief that sugar-dating *is* a "legit" form of dating where there are clear distinctions between that and escorting, therefore SA can now be considered more of a legit dating site than what it used to be.

This good in some ways, bad in others.

The good is that there are less escorts, so there is less concern that a girl I meet has had six other dicks in her that day. In truth that wasn't ever a real risk, because all of us know how to spot an escort once the conversation gets rolling, but because they are fewer and farther between (at least in the cities I play in), there is a lot less time wasted in the process of figuring this out. I have to assume this is because escorts are getting kicked or banned for shop talk and eventually get frustrated and go elsewhere.

The bad is that it seems to have drawn far more girls that want a real relationship, in many cases sugar-optional, with an older guy. Sugar-dating was always very time consuming, but so many of these girls want to spend a lot of time texting or getting to know you before deciding to meet or not. More of the 23+ year olds looking for an older boyfriend with a nice job than the 18-22 year olds that want some money to party with their friends over the weekend.

I can't say the net amount of time spent in the process of conversion to fuck chamber is any different than before, what's changed is the way in which the time is spent. Personally I hate constant texting, so for the most part I miss the old SA, but at the end of the day the ROI (amount of pussy versus time spent) is roughly same. It feels like a return to the old days before SA, where sugar opportunities were there, but spotting them and generating leads was less convenient.

I basically never run into a girl that is "sugar optional" at least not recently (last few years). Maybe I should tweak my profile text and add more vanilla dating terms. Good post.

[FarFarAway]

Ha good times. While we are at it comparing numbers this year has been my best by some margin with 40 (was at 46 starting the year). It has been a mix of paid sb's from seeking (mostly), some freebie sb's from seeking, smaller number of paid sb's from bumble, and then some regular dates from the regular apps. Just between Christmas and tonight NYE I will have banged 5 different chicks, 3 sb's all in there early 20's, a hot 35 yo asian from bumble last night and tonight a 50 yo I've known through some social groups. It's been a good here. Next year I plan to slow down with the sugar, I have my one super solid smoking hot 20 yo asian gal, and another that is very into the swinger scene so hoping to get some numbers up in that world. We shall see.

I presume that most of you, like me, keep a list and even a gallery of the girls you have banged. I have all the contact info on my SBs on a master list that has everyone I have ever been in contact with from SA, all of the other pertinent facts, etc. This is protection for me, and presumably will give me fodder for strolling down memory lane when I am too old to get it up anymore. Thankfully I appear to be years (or decades) away from that. LOL!

[LouisHernandez]

Yep. I am 50. Got one 20 yo, just swiped right, we matched, bantered a bit, asked if she was into sugar dating. In my area we have the "compliment" function where you can comment on one of their pics. I have used this too and just said something like "Hey great pic you look fabulous. Are you open to sugar dating at all"? Same approach on hinge. Landed two from bumble and one from hinge this way, age 20,20 and 23.

I replied last night to an 18 year old that "liked" me on hinge and asked her if she was "interested in sugar dating", response "Yes actually I am". So far so good haha.

Question regarding bumble and others: do you pay so you can see your matches? It's very time consuming to find your matches otherwise.

[TattoedDaddy1]

That was the best story I've ever read on here. It had everything! It may or may not be true, but as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter. Most on here thought Babyria was beyond redemption, but you did it. I think there's something admirable about coaching a troublesome SB into doing her best. I love it. Keep up the good work.

I'm glad you see it that way, I do not regret nor take back any time that I spent with her. But I am very in touch with things and when I feel like something has run its course, I have no problem with walking away. I absolutely wish her the best.

P.S. If you don't believe the story, I said about her, just read the other reviews and that should tell you.

[OliverNP]

Fucking grifters. I'll tell ya seeking in Denver where I live has gotten tough. I notice SA no longer advertises they have a "4 female to 1 male" ratio anymore. Regular online dating is completely broken and has been forever. I think most guys have given up on it and all have moved to SA. Glad I was ahead of the crowd and experienced what a rock star life is like for a few years. That's over with. Lots of work now with often little to show for it.

I definitely feel the winds of change on SA lately, the changes made to eliminate escort behavior have had a definite impact.

Opinions vary here of course, but I'm of the belief that sugar-dating *is* a "legit" form of dating where there are clear distinctions between that and escorting, therefore SA can now be considered more of a legit dating site than what it used to be.

This good in some ways, bad in others.

The good is that there are less escorts, so there is less concern that a girl I meet has had six other dicks in her that day. In truth that wasn't ever a real risk, because all of us know how to spot an escort once the conversation gets rolling, but because they are fewer and farther between (at least in the cities I play in), there is a lot less time wasted in the process of figuring this out. I have to assume this is because escorts are getting kicked or banned for shop talk and eventually get frustrated and go elsewhere.

The bad is that it seems to have drawn far more girls that want a real relationship, in many cases sugar-optional, with an older guy. Sugar-dating was always very time consuming, but so many of these girls want to spend a lot of time texting or getting to know you before deciding to meet or not. More of the 23+ year olds looking for an older boyfriend with a nice job than the 18-22 year olds that want some money to party with their friends over the weekend.

I can't say the net amount of time spent in the process of conversion to fuck chamber is any different than before, what's changed is the way in which the time is spent. Personally I hate constant texting, so for the most part I miss the old SA, but at the end of the day the ROI (amount of pussy versus time spent) is roughly same. It feels like a return to the old days before SA, where sugar opportunities were there, but spotting them and generating leads was less convenient.

[Peter Johnson]

Ok, I got an email in my extra SA account for -25% offer. I don't see any for -33% yet.

But I'm going to try to renew tomorrow, and if it works, I will post the URL to the offer and anyone else can try to use it too.

[LouisHernandez]

Yep. I am 50. Got one 20 yo, just swiped right, we matched, bantered a bit, asked if she was into sugar dating. In my area we have the "compliment" function where you can comment on one of their pics. I have used this too and just said something like "Hey great pic you look fabulous. Are you open to sugar dating at all"? Same approach on hinge. Landed two from bumble and one from hinge this way, age 20,20 and 23.

Good info. I'm going to give this game approach and see what happens on hinge and bumble. Gracias.

[TattoedDaddy1]

SB on bumble? What's your game / approach there? How old are you?

I like to overflow from SA in the big three. However they are nothing more than time filled when I'm not cruising SA. I'm working a 22 year old rn! We will see but I never put stock in anyone. The best deal is the one your willing to walk away from haha.

[Peter Johnson]

Good post here. If they bring up cash amounts before FS especially before meeting face to face, more often than not they are grifters / flakes / scammers. All of my 50+ SBs I never talked about money until face to face. A good rule of thumb is to walk no matter "hot" she appears if she starts asking about dollar amounts before IRL meeting.

I kind of have the opposite attitude here, and I often don't want to waste their time, or mine, meeting in person if we aren't on the same page with ppm. But perhaps I should meet up with a few more first and then decide how much it is worth to me, after judging the chemistry and vibe.

[Peter Johnson]

Yep. I am 50. Got one 20 yo, just swiped right, we matched, bantered a bit, asked if she was into sugar dating. In my area we have the "compliment" function where you can comment on one of their pics. I have used this too and just said something like "Hey great pic you look fabulous. Are you open to sugar dating at all"? Same approach on hinge. Landed two from bumble and one from hinge this way, age 20,20 and 23.

I have tried a similar approach and have some prospects, but haven't closed the deal with one of them yet. It takes a slightly different strategy, because sometimes you have to educate them about sugar dating, and be careful not to make them feel like a wh*re, but also explain how they can benefit.

One 18 y/o says she had been thinking about sugar dating for awhile, so she seems good to go. Another 23 y/o says "I don't really need money", so that could be considerably more difficult. She likes dating older guys though, so maybe some hope there. Also I could see some of these civilians being more strict about CFS, so that could be a dealbreaker for me.

I definitely look a lot better with $300 in my hand, so I can't see getting these young girls without it being financially beneficial to them. But working on it, and we'll see.

[Member #6718]

SB on bumble? What's your game / approach there? How old are you?

Yep. I am 50. Got one 20 yo, just swiped right, we matched, bantered a bit, asked if she was into sugar dating. In my area we have the "compliment" function where you can comment on one of their pics. I have used this too and just said something like "Hey great pic you look fabulous. Are you open to sugar dating at all"? Same approach on hinge. Landed two from bumble and one from hinge this way, age 20,20 and 23.

[LouisHernandez]

Ha good times. While we are at it comparing numbers this year has been my best by some margin with 40 (was at 46 starting the year). It has been a mix of paid sb's from seeking (mostly), some freebie sb's from seeking, smaller number of paid sb's from bumble, and then some regular dates from the regular apps. Just between Christmas and tonight NYE I will have banged 5 different chicks, 3 sb's all in there early 20's, a hot 35 yo asian from bumble last night and tonight a 50 yo I've known through some social groups. It's been a good here. Next year I plan to slow down with the sugar, I have my one super solid smoking hot 20 yo asian gal, and another that is very into the swinger scene so hoping to get some numbers up in that world. We shall see.

SB on bumble? What's your game / approach there? How old are you?

[SgtHappyEnding]

Well here goes.

Of course I read the reviews and got more interested. Sex is best with the crazy ones!

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Don't take this as anything other than I knew what I was getting into. She acts up because she wants to be choked and fucked, sometimes by a gangbang of men. Have fun fellas and hold onto you hat LOL.

That was the best story I've ever read on here. It had everything! It may or may not be true, but as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't matter. Most on here thought Babyria was beyond redemption, but you did it. I think there's something admirable about coaching a troublesome SB into doing her best. I love it. Keep up the good work.

[Member #6718]

Good post here. If they bring up cash amounts before FS especially before meeting face to face, more often than not they are grifters / flakes / scammers. All of my 50+ SBs I never talked about money until face to face. A good rule of thumb is to walk no matter "hot" she appears if she starts asking about dollar amounts before IRL meeting.

Honestly I have not had this experience over the last year. Pretty much every single chick I have banged from seeking where I paid the amount was agreed up front. Some were clearly "amateur pros" but others were pretty regular chicks. There were a few where money wasn't discussed and dates went well and got some freebies LOL.

[Member #6718]

Nice number there, and of course that represents a lot of fun and adventure. I nailed 37 in 2002 and all but 2 of those were sbs. My best ever was 83 in 2012 and that was when Craigslist Casual Encounters was an amazing resource for free action, but of course the quality was nowhere as high as sugar dating....a lot of chunky housewives back then, but was still glorious.

37 was my best year since 2015...had some LTRs that slowed me down, and only 5 in 2020, when covid hit. Only 12 last year, again mainly because of covid risk.

I am going to try to average maybe 2 a month in 2023, for both budgetary reasons and because I'm slowing down a bit as I get older with my recharge time. I could get it up and do a new one every day, but I wouldn't enjoy enough. I need to be really backed up to be crazy horny, and then it can be a mind blowing peak experience. That is what I'm going for at this point.

Ha good times. While we are at it comparing numbers this year has been my best by some margin with 40 (was at 46 starting the year). It has been a mix of paid sb's from seeking (mostly), some freebie sb's from seeking, smaller number of paid sb's from bumble, and then some regular dates from the regular apps. Just between Christmas and tonight NYE I will have banged 5 different chicks, 3 sb's all in there early 20's, a hot 35 yo asian from bumble last night and tonight a 50 yo I've known through some social groups. It's been a good here. Next year I plan to slow down with the sugar, I have my one super solid smoking hot 20 yo asian gal, and another that is very into the swinger scene so hoping to get some numbers up in that world. We shall see.