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  1. #21749
    I'm assuming across from a Q building and a charging station?

    Quote Originally Posted by RChangDatyKing  [View Original Post]
    Once a month I will go window shopping and try a new AMP especially when I'm in a new area. I stumbled upon one on Pacific Heights Road in Mira Mesa, in a strip mall where there is also a SDCCU bank. The sign say Holistic Acupuncture but they have a flashing massage sign. I go in and was greeted by Jessica, a 30 something cutie with long black hair. I like her look and she was friendly and welcoming so I stayed. It's $70/ hour, slightly higher than other nonFS spas but I like younger beauty over GILFs and will gladly pay the extra $10. I also like that they have a 45 minute option for $60; great when I'm on a lunch break. Jessica took me to the furthest room in the back with a bed for Thai style massage. Jessica gave an amazing medium to deep tissue massage and got out all the kinks. There was no teasing during the 30 minutes massage. After a warm towel wipe down the tease started with her rubbing my inner thighs and as soon as I spread eagle she was not shy with grabbing junior and the boys. When she saw I was doing push ups with junior (LOL) she asked me to flip over. Junior was at full attention and Jessica had a huge smile on her face. Her English was decent and she asked if junior wanted to play. Of course I said yes. Jessica has a banging body, one you would find at a FS spa. She grabs my hands and placed it on her body. I won't go into all the details of activities because these girls do want activities discussed, but she eventually got in her birthday suit. Great eye contact, nice and sensual release. YMMY, but don't think $40 tip will be enough for what I received. It was totally worth it! Jessica told me she's the oldest one at the shop with usually 3 girls working. They rotate girls often so call if you want to see a particular girl.

    Because she said she was the oldest and the other girl working with her is more beautiful, I went back and saw Jenny. Jenny is one you can see in any of the ads on RubMD. She is beautiful with red highlights. I've been going to AMPs for 10 plus years and will say that Jenny is probably in my top 5 most beautiful at a nonFS AMP. She is probably number 3 in my current rotation in terms of beauty. Sorry I can't share the other 2 because they are UTRs. Again Jenny does not work there every day so call ahead.

  2. #21748

    108 Rita on Christmas Eve

    I had fully intended to not go to full-service place, and just get a good long massage and a slow, sensual hand job. But unfortunately, I went to two different places that were booked up for quite a while. You horny bastard clearly have no decency, cock blocking me on Christmas Eve. Shame on you.

    So, with two strikes against me, I wandered over to 108 to see what kind of joy the holiday spirit would bring me.

    When I walked in and I was greeted by Rita and Monica (the manager), Rita was enthusiastic about wanting to drag me into the room after a few minutes of giving me a warm close Hug. I asked Monica to come join us, but she declined because she was the manager now I promise next time when she's working, she would join in on the fun.

    In the room I was just finished getting undressed when Rita came back in with supplies and proceeded to give me a hug and a kiss and stare deeply into my eyes. I'm sure personal chemistry had a lot to do with it (it just felt like we click together) and your mileage will vary, but she was really aggressive (in a good way) about wanting to fuck me.

    While still standing in the room while she was kissing me, she pulled her top down, exposing your beautiful boobs, perfectly natural in a lovely shake. I wouldn't say she had the largest nipples, but they were definitely perfectly proportion to her perfectly shaped boobs. She's a little sensitive about her nipples being played with, but she enjoys a good firm grabbing so from time to time I really enjoyed giving them a firm squeeze. I ran my hands down her body, which is toned and firm, gave her a few gentle kisses on her ass when she had me life face down on the table and started running her hands over my body. I was enjoying the feeling of her hands gliding over my muscles. And then she moved lower down my back she was gently kissing my inner thighs, and I arch my back up and she started slowly and gently licking my balls. She was alternating between sucking and licking, it all felt good. At this moment she had me turn over and proceeded to slowly lick my shower before finally taking my whole cock in her mouth then the rhythm and the sucking motion that she was putting up was just fucking great. She gives an excellent BJ definitely knows how to suck a cock. I had her climb up on the table so that I could lick her beautiful pussy while I was still getting my cock licked. So smooth and clean. She has one of the more beautiful little pussies I've seen in a while. A couple of times, I was worried I was going to shoot my load while she was sucking on me, so I stood up and laid her down on the table while I got on my knees, and proceeded to lick her pussy some more. She was very sensitive and just needed the lightest of licking and sucking to make her squirm. She had to tell me a few times to go more gentle but once I got the hang of it, I felt like I wanted to just left on that beautiful pussy forever. Very like licking really seems to be what kids are going.

    But now I really wanted to be inside of her, so she quickly suited me up, and while she was laying across the table, I slowly went and standing missionary. She is so firm and tight It took so slow, gentle strokes as I was working its way in but once we got the rhythm, she really started working with me and driving each other into a frenzy. We change positions a few times, but we were getting so hot. She was running her face over my sweaty chest and then grinding her crotch hard into my thrusts, it was wild.

    Finished missionary style laying on the table and she's slowly kept pushing into my cock even after I came, I was still hard enough for her to grind be a little longer. Dripping in sweat, we just kind of lingered, and each others arms holding her close kissing, and just feeling each other's presence.

    Definitely a good session and I look forward to repeating it with her again.

  3. #21747
    Quote Originally Posted by RChangDatyKing  [View Original Post]
    I've only been to Hans twice and had 2 great experiences. I definitely will be going back because the girls are young and give great massage.

    Others I like are MBC, Harmony, Ocean Gold, Golden A, Paradise, Z Massage, Massage Oasis (forgot new name).
    Who do you guys recommend at Harmony and Z's, and why?

  4. #21746
    Quote Originally Posted by Uboatct  [View Original Post]
    What's the best nonfs option these days, Hans? Or the others mentioned below? It's nice to see a decent number of options for a good massage plus shake!
    I've only been to Hans twice and had 2 great experiences. I definitely will be going back because the girls are young and give great massage.

    Others I like are MBC, Harmony, Ocean Gold, Golden A, Paradise, Z Massage, Massage Oasis (forgot new name).

  5. #21745

    Nonfs

    What's the best nonfs option these days, Hans? Or the others mentioned below? It's nice to see a decent number of options for a good massage plus shake!

    Quote Originally Posted by RChangDatyKing  [View Original Post]
    I also recommend Z Massage and Harmony. I have not been to Kiss or Crystal; will definitely add them to my window shopping list. Thanks Rolf!

  6. #21744

    Christmas Eve 108 with Miki

    Went to 108 today. Despite the empty-ish parking lot, I was surprised that it was busy on this Christmas eve morning. A lot of in and out traffic. You fiends are unholy.

    Had Miki / Micky / Micki. She is petite with a great body and has a very cute face, which I like. Probably late 20's, very youthful, to the untrained eye she looks early 20's. Her natural C cup knockers are incredible. Literally quite the handful. Haven't had so much fun with big naturals like that in a while.

    Instead of the bubbly persona like most, she has a cool demeanor which is a nice change in my opinion.

    Quick wipe down on the table, then DFK, and probably one of the best sloppy BBBJ I had at 108. Covered FS and finished CIM.

    Overall I highly recommend Miki. Pretty face, great rack, good service.

    On my way out I saw Monica the MMS / manager for the first time. She's hot. Also saw Gia. Wow she is gorgeous! I've had her and posted a review here, but the make up she had today was 10/10, she was a glowing beauty.

  7. #21743
    Quote Originally Posted by RolfTorren  [View Original Post]
    First up, welcome to the club. It's addictive and fun to swim in these waters. And also at times frustrating and even a little risky, depending on the type of activity you want to indulge in. I appreciate the fact that you offered some details of your visit, rather than just ask for help without any real contribution. I'd suggest doing a search for nonfs here on the board and see the names and places that come up. And RChang's recent post contains a pretty good guide how to act and what to tip. My current nonfs favorite places include Z's, Kiss, Harmony and Crystal.
    I also recommend Z Massage and Harmony. I have not been to Kiss or Crystal; will definitely add them to my window shopping list. Thanks Rolf!

  8. #21742
    Quote Originally Posted by Kodak619  [View Original Post]
    Yep, I did see your post and it helped guide me to Sakura. Didn't want to request anyone specifically in case I didn't handle the tipping right, which I don't think I did. I ultimately left there happy with getting a good massage, and albeit no HE, I left happy because I went for a massage first. Now to explore where to get just a little bit more, but still maintaining a good massage! Thanks!
    Okay, well it sounds like you got a good massage out of it. I usually just tip about $25 for a good legit massage, and I've never had any complaints. (I do give more to the one girl I see regularly). It is doubtful you'll even get asked about the tip if getting a totally legit massage, although the girl's attitude and effort may decline if you repeat with her after giving a poor tip.

    I am somewhat curious who you had. In my experience the gals at Sakura that do HE do a so-so massage at best.

  9. #21741

    La Jolla Marriot is the much better choice

    Quote Originally Posted by HKPunter99  [View Original Post]
    Looks like I'll be in San Diego for work, I've been able to decipher Level 2 and Erma from the threads. Is 108 the same as V (4550 Kearny)? My preference is Asian parlors, but open to Latin, given the location. Mostly looking for HJ and BBBJ, will do FS but only if the woman is short & thin (I like them petite).

    Also, I have some flexibility as to where I stay. I am thinking either the Marriott La Jolla or Marriott Gaslamp. Any suggestions for either of those locations?

    Please feel free to PM me.

    Thank you in advance! And if anyone needs an intel in the Washington DC metro area I'm happy to return the favor.
    You will find so many choices and flavors in Kearny Mesa which is about a mile from the Marriot, do your research and make appointments.

  10. #21740

    Well said sir

    Quote Originally Posted by RChangDatyKing  [View Original Post]
    Oh and probably the most important thing. Do not be jerks and make demands for shit. Be a gentleman, have good hygiene and respect the girls' boundaries. If she likes you the extras will happen. If you don't get extras, just move on. Good tips are great and the ladies will appreciate it but they prefer gentlemen more than an extra $20.
    Just reiterating that's a good point to make, some guys get so desperate over time and money that they lose track that this is meant to be something that you enjoy.

    Just try to be in the moment and enjoy it while it's happening.

  11. #21739
    Quote Originally Posted by HKPunter99  [View Original Post]
    Looks like I'll be in San Diego for work, I've been able to decipher Level 2 and Erma from the threads. Is 108 the same as V (4550 Kearny)? My preference is Asian parlors, but open to Latin, given the location. Mostly looking for HJ and BBBJ, will do FS but only if the woman is short & thin (I like them petite).

    Also, I have some flexibility as to where I stay. I am thinking either the Marriott La Jolla or Marriott Gaslamp. Any suggestions for either of those locations?

    Please feel free to PM me.

    Thank you in advance! And if anyone needs an intel in the Washington DC metro area I'm happy to return the favor.
    La jolla can be a ***** to get out way more than downtown.

    Downtown has hella homeless camping on the streets.

    If I had to pick from either of the two it'd be gaslamp granted you can park in the garage which I assume they have.

  12. #21738

    Trip to SD

    Looks like I'll be in San Diego for work, I've been able to decipher Level 2 and Erma from the threads. Is 108 the same as V (4550 Kearny)? My preference is Asian parlors, but open to Latin, given the location. Mostly looking for HJ and BBBJ, will do FS but only if the woman is short & thin (I like them petite).

    Also, I have some flexibility as to where I stay. I am thinking either the Marriott La Jolla or Marriott Gaslamp. Any suggestions for either of those locations?

    Please feel free to PM me.

    Thank you in advance! And if anyone needs an intel in the Washington DC metro area I'm happy to return the favor.

  13. #21737
    Quote Originally Posted by RChangDatyKing  [View Original Post]
    This is just my 2 cents and what's worked for me.

    When I hear or think of Legit massage I'm considering one at a chiropractor's office or even at Massage Envy. Legit at an AMP is where the shop is mainly doing therapeutic massages with maybe some glazing and you'll leave with blue balls. I say mainly because there's at least 1 or 2 girls out of the 5 working at that AMP is offering HE to their regulars and the others are mostly giving therapeutic massages with some intentional teasing. Places like Angel Massage in Mira Mesa and Sakura is a good example of mainly legit massages. They are great and a lot cheaper than going to Massage Envy and no membership is needed.

    Tips: back 10 plus years ago when nonFS AMPs charged $40 hour for a massage it was simple. When a girl did HEs, it was $40 to the house and $40 tips and everyone was happy. For me if I liked the girls and know I would see them again I would tip $50 or $60 dollars for a HE massage. This was also pre COVID and the $40/$40 was acceptable almost at any nonFS AMPs for a massage and HE. Post COVID and prices are now at $60/ hour at nonFS spas, I generally tip $40 for an ONLY legit massage. Massage with HE, I will tip the same as the HF so $60/$60. Again if I like the girls or if they are playful, and hint that more maybe available beyond a HE at subsequent visits then I might tip $70 at a first visit. Then usually at a 2nd visit menu might open and more is allowed, lots of mutual touch, clothes come off, then my tip can be $80 on up. If the girls are hot and I truly like them and will see them regularly I'll tip $100 and that has been a standard and I am getting full access without any discussions of tip on all subsequent visits. These are ones I call UTRs. Again with these girls there are trusts, comfort and chemistry that has been developed and may require lots of repeat visits.
    Oh and probably the most important thing. Do not be jerks and make demands for shit. Be a gentleman, have good hygiene and respect the girls' boundaries. If she likes you the extras will happen. If you don't get extras, just move on. Good tips are great and the ladies will appreciate it but they prefer gentlemen more than an extra $20.

  14. #21736
    Quote Originally Posted by DeeeezNutss  [View Original Post]
    Was in the area and had some time to kill before heading home and remembered RDKing mentioning about this massage place. Had a few knots I wanted kinked out and wanted that HE as well of course! Been a while since I've been to a non-FS place and RDKing always has the best recommendations! LOL.

    Called ahead to see if Jenny was available and they said no, but new girl available and to come check her out. Got to the place and this cute 30 year old lady wear a dark blue fitted jean dress welcomes me in. She was the only one working that night as well. Paid the HF for hhr and got in the room towards the back with the bars on the wall so they can walk on your back which I was hoping for since she only looked like she weight about 120 and 5'1.

    Got undressed and laid on the bed. She came in after and she started the massage on my back working on my kinks which she did get out. She even got to walk on my back and cracked my back which felt good. We were conversating during the massage as her English was not bad. We were joking around and had a few laughs but no teasing what so ever which I was ok with since I was only expecting a massage and possible HE. Plus I was having fun just chatting with her and having good chemistry was key..
    LOL. I'm glad you had a great time. Man if your masseuse wasn't Jenny or Jessica (I know she off until next week) and you thought she was cute and only in her 30's I might have to make another trip to try this gem. You have to go see Jenny. She is hot and model like. Her massage wasn't as great as Jessica but I was admiring other things. Wink, wink. Like her beautiful face. LOL.

    This is probably the new hot spot with beautiful ladies. I hope the owner keeps bringing more of them.

  15. #21735

    I concur

    Quote Originally Posted by RChangDatyKing  [View Original Post]
    This is just my 2 cents and what's worked for me.

    When I hear or think of Legit massage I'm considering one at a chiropractor's office or even at Massage Envy. Legit at an AMP is where the shop is mainly doing therapeutic massages with maybe some glazing and you'll leave with blue balls. I say mainly because there's at least 1 or 2 girls out of the 5 working at that AMP is offering HE to their regulars and the others are mostly giving therapeutic massages with some intentional teasing. Places like Angel Massage in Mira Mesa and Sakura is a good example of mainly legit massages. They are great and a lot cheaper than going to Massage Envy and no membership is needed.

    Tips: back 10 plus years ago when nonFS AMPs charged $40 hour for a massage it was simple. When a girl did HEs, it was $40 to the house and $40 tips and everyone was happy. For me if I liked the girls and know I would see them again I would tip $50 or $60 dollars for a HE massage. This was also pre COVID and the $40/$40 was acceptable almost at any nonFS AMPs for a massage and HE. Post COVID and prices are now at $60/ hour at nonFS spas, I generally tip $40 for an ONLY legit massage. Massage with HE, I will tip the same as the HF so $60/$60. Again if I like the girls or if they are playful, and hint that more maybe available beyond a HE at subsequent visits then I might tip $70 at a first visit. Then usually at a 2nd visit menu might open and more is allowed, lots of mutual touch, clothes come off, then my tip can be $80 on up. If the girls are hot and I truly like them and will see them regularly I'll tip $100 and that has been a standard and I am getting full access without any discussions of tip on all subsequent visits. These are ones I call UTRs. Again with these girls there are trusts, comfort and chemistry that has been developed and may require lots of repeat visits.

    Testing the waters to see if more is offered. At a nonFS spa if the masseuse is standing so far that she's out of your arms reach most likely you are only going to get a legit massage. If the girl's body is brushing up on your hands, arms and near your reach then you can brush on her legs, arms, etc to see if deck you once. LOL. If she does not and starts more teasing, etc then you'll get at least a HE at the end. Most girls might ask if you want something special, meaning HE or mutual touch, top off, etc..and she might tell you how much tip she wants or ask how much tip you will give her. If she's hot and the amount is reasonable I might accept it if I want to see her again. If the girl is just average than I might counter her $100 request to $70 etc if I know I'm not seeing her again.

    FS spas is very different. Tips will generally start at $140 -$160 for 30 minutes session. $140 is probably CBJ, limited/rushed service. Tip as at least $160 for a better experience. $180-$200 plus for an hour session.

    Again this is my 2 cents and whats worked for me. Good luck!
    I will second RCDK's comments. Especially " If the girl's body is brushing up on your hands, arms and near your reach then you can brush on her legs, arms, etc to see if deck you once. LOL. ".

    If I do like them and the massage, I will pretend to have a muscle spasm and brush or touch their leg if it's near me to give them a sort of hint I'm looking for more. The other thing that has worked for me, network with others and get referrals. Tell them who sent you and the usually open up the circle of trust.

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