"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[TallGuy3000]

Sofia.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a-e4e1102c86b3

I chatted with her briefly via text, and I offered up a PPM of $350. She basically told me that she's not sure that we will ever come to an arrangement and the comms have dropped way off. Has anyone else seen her?

Southern Gal.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...f-7ffe21428a2f

I've exchanged a few messages with her, and it's gone basically nowhere. Perhaps I'm not her type. Again curious if anyone has any info about her. She seems to have been on the site for a while, but her activity is sporadic..

She looks like a lady I was seeing pre Covid, and came to an end with the pandemic. We Lost contact and I know she had some family impacted by Covid. She was a great time and just loved sex. Loved oral. BBBJCIM, BBFSCIP, slightly bedroom submissive. I'd be curious to hear if you meet up.

[NewAnonymousName]

Yes, I'm glad you get it. And some would argue that a Snickers bar is a commodity and all are the same, so it's not an accurate analogy. However, these girls are also commodities, for the most part. If one 40ish MILF is asking $400, then most likely you can find another 40 ish MILF, of near identical quality.

Pussy is pussy, after all, to a large extent, especially in different age ranges. Sure there are outliers, but for most part, if a woman is charging too much, the market will give that business to a similar woman who is charging an amount that is more reasonable (meaning what the market has priced her at).

For the record, I don't disagree with you, nor do I fault you for accurately describing the current market prices. I'm simply saying there are reasons some men overpay either occasionally or often (several are listed in my post below), and it's sad that a few here (only a few, and not you as I recall) get bent out of shape that the wealthy value their time more than their money.

[QuartJess]

Saw her a year ago at hotel in Alpharetta. Seemed to go pretty good, talked a bit, did the deed and she said she had a headache. I said I'd go to desk and see if any aspirin or shit. Took all my stuff of course but when got back she was gone. Took the stairs I assume. Really funny that there was no need to. I don't remember the sex so that must say it wasn't stellar. $200 I'm pretty sure.

I met with Southern Gal (Sarah) a hand full of times over the last few years. Thick white girl with a few tattoos. She would drive to my hotel in Norcross from the Woodstock area. Lots of deepthroating with gagging, rimming, and BBFSCIP. The damage was 150 $.5 when she visited.

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/8...9-f01748f106ca

This one is a scammer. I usually don't buy them anything before meeting, but she is full of sob stories, and I let my guard down and got her a $40 phone refill card. Then she said she needed gas to come meet up, so I sent her $7 with Cashapp. Then of course she ghosted me, after that.

I don't care much about $47.... but I do care, out of principle. I was just backed up and not thinking clearly, and let my guard down. The red flags were already there, with this one too.

[Peter Johnson]

Thank you!!

Finally a poster on here who has some damn sense!

Why pay $50 for a snicker bar, when they really cost $2?

Hurry durr durr I'm rich so it's not my problem you don't want to buy the $50 Snickers bar.

Yes, I'm glad you get it. And some would argue that a Snickers bar is a commodity and all are the same, so it's not an accurate analogy. However, these girls are also commodities, for the most part. If one 40ish MILF is asking $400, then most likely you can find another 40 ish MILF, of near identical quality.

Pussy is pussy, after all, to a large extent, especially in different age ranges. Sure there are outliers, but for most part, if a woman is charging too much, the market will give that business to a similar woman who is charging an amount that is more reasonable (meaning what the market has priced her at).

[Peter Johnson]

The market decides how much these girls are worth. And individually, we are one small part of the market <-- Again. BS. No one on this board has the right to say what a woman is worth to another man. Period. If you do that, it's just out of spite. Market economics surely don't apply to the sugar world

Well of course you are absolutely wrong about all of that. Supply and demand determines prices, and those are normal market forces.

And again the market says how much these women are worth, and I do have the right to quote market prices.... and say that to a man, woman, or child (ok maybe not to a little kid).

[WoodstockShane]

We got off on a tangent about markets and prices. (Sorry. My fault, although I think a few of us found the exchange of differing opinions on the subject to be interesting).

Now to resurrect a discussion that got pushed down that was on topic:

Has anyone seen MistressforMoney or SouthernHockeyGirl lately? I can't find my contact information for them, and I can't find their profiles on SA either. I'm hoping one or both is still in the SB game. I've been in a mood for a MILF lately.

I could have sworn I saw her profile pop back up a few weeks ago. She must've taken it back down, because a search brought up nothing. I'm pretty sure she's still out there though.

[WillDuff]

Saw her a year ago at hotel in Alpharetta. Seemed to go pretty good, talked a bit, did the deed and she said she had a headache. I said I'd go to desk and see if any aspirin or shit. Took all my stuff of course but when got back she was gone. Took the stairs I assume. Really funny that there was no need to. I don't remember the sex so that must say it wasn't stellar. $200 I'm pretty sure.

Sofia.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...a-e4e1102c86b3

I chatted with her briefly via text, and I offered up a PPM of $350. She basically told me that she's not sure that we will ever come to an arrangement and the comms have dropped way off. Has anyone else seen her?

Southern Gal.

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...f-7ffe21428a2f

I've exchanged a few messages with her, and it's gone basically nowhere. Perhaps I'm not her type. Again curious if anyone has any info about her. She seems to have been on the site for a while, but her activity is sporadic.

BronzeBeauty.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...d-dc9977cd959b

Exchanged a few messages with her. Seems real. Wants to meet up for lunch this week, I suppose to discuss arrangements. She's not the youngest woman out there, but I like her look.

[Ripvan12]

A lot of good points being made by a few different posters. My 2 cents:

2) Bezos will outbid you every time, but Bezos isn't bidding Ferrari prices for a Ford either. My original post I wasn't scolding the guy for paying too much necessarily, just pointing out that he's paying new sports car prices for a used sedan so to speak. Someone can pay $300 for a haircut or get a $30 cut, that's up to them and their preference. But walking into a "Great Clips" or other budget salon and paying 300 for a 30 haircut isn't a great decision, and if I see a guy doing it, I feel like I should give them a heads up they are way overpaying.

G4 G this is a great summary. I see both sides of the argument, and there's great nuance here. Ripper.

[NewAnonymousName]

Quoting myself, but seeing Mistyefire post a couple years after I used to see her got me thinking about other experiences with MILFs from Seeking.

Whatever happened to MistressforMoney? I searched for her on SA and came up empty. Maybe she blocked me. Has anyone seen her recently? She was a great time.

What about Southern Hockey Girl? Same thing -- I can't find her profile anymore, but she was a blast.

We got off on a tangent about markets and prices. (Sorry. My fault, although I think a few of us found the exchange of differing opinions on the subject to be interesting).

Now to resurrect a discussion that got pushed down that was on topic:

Has anyone seen MistressforMoney or SouthernHockeyGirl lately? I can't find my contact information for them, and I can't find their profiles on SA either. I'm hoping one or both is still in the SB game. I've been in a mood for a MILF lately.

[SeekingHead]

Sounds like a fun friend to have. My stratospherically rich friends are on the straight and narrow in their marriages, so no such luck for me and my (comparatively) measly seven figure net worth.

Wait until they get divorced & go fucking crazy like he did. Dude was a nerd in school, married a homely ass fat girl who pumped him out 3 kids & just got fatter. Once she shut the pussy down he started to step out until a white knight ratted him out to the church congregation prompting her to file for divorce. After he wrote her a $7 million check, 1/2 of his net worth at the time he went fucking bonkers, I was married during this time & missed out per another buddy on some crazy ass vegas vacations.

[NewAnonymousName]

I've seen the upper market for sugar babies as I have a friend who I've been a wingman for in Naples where he did have a 2nd home "Irma took out the entire structure" Now we are both single & in our early 50's, I'm pretty well off with an annual income of over $200 k a year, & can afford to drop about $2 k a month on sugar related activities. He has a net worth just past $25 million & earns over $1 million a year just off of his dental practice to give you an idea of his spending power.

The higher end sugar babies are not on SA but you find them at $1 k a night dinners for political fund raisers or at a $500 a ticket white tie party for the SPCA. About 50% of them are late 20's to mid 30's models who have been in magazines or other photo shoots, failed actresses who have gotten some screen time, etc. Ie the trophy wife circuit.

It's much more of a mistress type of arrangement where you are dropping $5 to 10 k a month to keep them in their lifestyle, and the majority of them are looking to marry a whale like him not sugar date for more than 12 months. I went out with them & one of her friends who was a solid 9, after a few more dates with her which I couldn't really afford, & once she found out I didn't have a $10 million net worth she pretty much ghosted me. I've seen some solid 10's with Harvey Weinstein types who you know are paying thru the nose to be with them at these functions.

Sounds like a fun friend to have. My stratospherically rich friends are on the straight and narrow in their marriages, so no such luck for me and my (comparatively) measly seven figure net worth.

[SeekingHead]

A lot of good points being made by a few different posters. My 2 cents:


3) The market supports what the market supports. Fortunately, there's a much larger supply of SBs than Bezos SDs, and most SDs in the higher earner market aren't playing in the same market as I am. They can pay top dollar for the wannabe instagram models, I'm very content with my 200-300 alt / hippy girls and late 20's single moms.

I've seen the upper market for sugar babies as I have a friend who I've been a wingman for in Naples where he did have a 2nd home "Irma took out the entire structure" Now we are both single & in our early 50's, I'm pretty well off with an annual income of over $200 k a year, & can afford to drop about $2 k a month on sugar related activities. He has a net worth just past $25 million & earns over $1 million a year just off of his dental practice to give you an idea of his spending power.

The higher end sugar babies are not on SA but you find them at $1 k a night dinners for political fund raisers or at a $500 a ticket white tie party for the SPCA. About 50% of them are late 20's to mid 30's models who have been in magazines or other photo shoots, failed actresses who have gotten some screen time, etc. Ie the trophy wife circuit.

It's much more of a mistress type of arrangement where you are dropping $5 to 10 k a month to keep them in their lifestyle, and the majority of them are looking to marry a whale like him not sugar date for more than 12 months. I went out with them & one of her friends who was a solid 9, after a few more dates with her which I couldn't really afford, & once she found out I didn't have a $10 million net worth she pretty much ghosted me. I've seen some solid 10's with Harvey Weinstein types who you know are paying thru the nose to be with them at these functions.

[MrVmp]

https://members.seeking.com/member/c...4-3dcf2a2099c9

Chic messaged me on Secret Benefits and the Seeking site. I subscribed to Secret Benefits a month and a half ago and she messaged back wanting $250 ppm. She would cum to me but when I googled her number, I came back with this:

https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/a...cials/48298743

Smdh. She promised 2 pops but I don't trust the word of any chic that posted on Listcrawler. Smh. She was only posted on Listcrawler for 2 days though. Anyone seen her?

She hit me up on SA. I was willing to give her a try whenever I would be near her area. She regularly text me asking to see me, and I would tell her I was busy, and didn't know when I'd be down in her area. Last message she sent to me was asking if I could be "generous" and she'll do something for me virtually, so I blocked her after that.

[GoneForGood97]

You've hit on a point I've made consistently -- why should wealthy men hold back to keep the market low for others. If I really want someone, I do what it takes within my means, whether in sugar babying or real dating. The guys complaining about keeping prices down will get outbid by me. Jeff Bezos will outbid me every time. So will you, it would seem from your post. But that's just fine. If you've got a giant bankroll as a weapon in your arsenal, none of us should be telling you not to fight off your competition without using it.

I find your comment about turning the would be escorts into long-term babies to be an interesting one too. Many here deride that approach as "captain save a ho." But I understand it. I've done it a few times. It was fruitless more often. The couple times it worked out, it was great. Don't get me wrong. I'm not out there trying to rescue drug abusers and the equivalent of backpage girls (or whatever sites replaced it).

A lot of good points being made by a few different posters. My 2 cents:

1) The SA sub price chases away most of the truly "cheap" guys who waste their time and gas running after the LC / STG girls and wasting way more of their time and energy than they might otherwise spend if they went a little higher quality or even the SB route. It's my read that MOST of the guys that regularly post here are NOT the "cheap" guys.

2) Bezos will outbid you every time, but Bezos isn't bidding Ferrari prices for a Ford either. My original post I wasn't scolding the guy for paying too much necessarily, just pointing out that he's paying new sports car prices for a used sedan so to speak. Someone can pay $300 for a haircut or get a $30 cut, that's up to them and their preference. But walking into a "Great Clips" or other budget salon and paying 300 for a 30 haircut isn't a great decision, and if I see a guy doing it, I feel like I should give them a heads up they are way overpaying.

3) The market supports what the market supports. Fortunately, there's a much larger supply of SBs than Bezos SDs, and most SDs in the higher earner market aren't playing in the same market as I am. They can pay top dollar for the wannabe instagram models, I'm very content with my 200-300 alt / hippy girls and late 20's single moms.