"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Peter Johnson]

I have been finding it difficult myself on the site. However I have had much success going to restaurants like a Hooters and getting girls. So far I have had 5 beautiful girls 1 ugly one. LOL.

What is your strategy there to broach the subject and get them in your rotation? Do you just casually ask them if they ever thought about having a sugar daddy I almost did this with a hotel clerk last week, but I just don't have the game to follow through. I should have at least tried though.

I'm not at all surprised that it works, as most young girls are open to selling pussy. Most of them are aspiring wh*res for the right price. (And of course I use "wh*re" in the most favorable way possible. Not throwing any shade there._ Anyway good job for converting some civilians like that. That sounds like even more exciting than getting girls from the site.

[Peter Johnson]

I could never get pass their requirement of an I'd to prove your identity.

If you're a married guy, this is way to risky.

If you are single, it is way too risky, imo. But everyone has to decide acceptable levels of risk for themselves. I am still actually taking too much risk using a texting app and sending my pics. Ideally, I would have every girl on Signal or Session apps, but they wore me down with this, and too many were slipping away. I hope I don't pay for it, in the future.

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...7-977e21a6ac4d

Anyways, hope you guys have a good time (I did for the most part) but she'll likely not take less than 350 now unless you are just super charming.

Nice score there for 250. I talked to her a bit and really loved her look. I love fair skin, and of course natural redheads almost always have that.

But somehow she lost interest or drifted away, I can't remember which. She might be worth 350 to me, with BBFS, but sounds like a bit of a bad attitude, so I will probably pass. Still tempting though. Anyway nice review, and again, props on the score. I'm sure she looked so sweet in mish.

[GoneForGood97]

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...7-977e21a6ac4d

Jules88, but she also had a 2nd profile that recently was banned under "Katie". Saw her this week, so can confirm real. Standard chat on SA then moved to snap. On snap we chatted off and on, but when I pushed a little about arrangement details she was a bit coy and wouldn't get into specifics, which I understand some girls are a little paranoid about doing it, and I'm not one to ever type "how much to fuck?" but I thought I was pretty obvious what I was asking. However, she gave very general answers and never brought up a specific $ figure. Depending on the vibe I'm getting with a girl I let them throw out the first number then I try to get them to bid themselves down, or if I get a different vibe I'll throw out the first number, but I couldn't really figure her out. Knowing she had an account recently banned I suspect she was just gun shy to talk arrangement details even over snap. This will be important later. Agreed to meet for drinks, she has no car so she had to take an Uber, but she was on time. Very good conversationalist, and the date went well. I eventually ask her if she wants to go somewhere for fun, and she eagerly agrees. I book us a room nearby online and drive us over there.

Pros: 21 year old natural red head with shaved kitty, porcelain skin, very girl next door pretty. Nice firm B cups, cute white girl booty. She originally asked if I had a cover, but when I told her I'd need to go grab one out of the car she said she was fine without it as long as there was no CIP (even though she claims she's on the pill). Works for me. Made out for a bit, closed mouth kissing, no DFK. She's almost-but-not-quite GFE. Has some kinky tendencies but also some odd restrictions I'll mention later. Eventually we undress, I get her turned on, and she gives me a pretty decent BBJ followed by BBFS. I pull out when I'm close and finish on her ass. She asks me if I go 1 or 2 or 3 rounds, and she's happy to go again; after I bit I recover, and we do another fun round of BBFS and I get close, pull out, and finish. Solid fun time, and between drinks and fun we were together a couple of hours.

Cons: She's a bit of a germaphobe, but it manifests in odd ways. Like she was fine with BBJ but once I had been inside her she didn't want to put it back in her mouth, and once my hand had played between her legs she didn't want it anywhere near her face. She's ok with rough play except no hair pulling and no choking. She's not very vocal, will give the occasional very soft moan, and when I got her to cum she moaned a few times in a row very softly and I confirmed with her she had orgasmed. Also did not want any DATY. None of these were deal breakers, but just an unusual combination of kinky but restrictive. However, after we finish and she's getting ready to get her Uber to leave she asks about the donation. I give her my standard 200 (since she can't host) and she pouts a little, mentions she always gets 350. I tell her I only do 300 if she can host, but will go up another 50 and give her that. She takes it and doesn't push the issue. Later I text her to check in and talk about setting something up for the future, but she reiterates she always does 350 and we're done. Fine with me, as our bedroom chemistry was just a bit off, but she really needs to get more assertive / clear in her donation talk prior to meeting up. I don't feel I stiffed her, but I'm sure she feels otherwise (250 plus drinks / lunch / hotel).

Anyways, hope you guys have a good time (I did for the most part) but she'll likely not take less than 350 now unless you are just super charming.

[GoneForGood97]

I have been finding it difficult myself on the site. However I have had much success going to restaurants like a Hooters and getting girls. So far I have had 5 beautiful girls 1 ugly one. LOL.

Success as in just picking them up and fucking for free? Or turning your waitress into an SB? Like I've occasionally managed to get a waitress's ph# and hook up later, but I was way younger and it was just a fun hookup, no pay for play. I'd imagine girls that work at Hooters or Tilted Kilt or Twin Peaks would be more open to pay for play, but that's just a guess. All my pay for play has either been from strip clubs, escorts met through online ads, or now sugar babies on seeking.

[TopGun9]

So have been communicating with this little beauty, scheduled to meet for lunch this Sunday to see if there is chemistry. If all goes well with the first meet then next week the fireworks will happen. Will keep you mongers posted.

Gentlemen I must say, Sugar Daddy requires more work than Seeking, but to me the pay off is better. There is little to no scammers on Sugar Daddy and the selection of women is better in my opinion.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...serId=71355961

I could never get pass their requirement of an I'd to prove your identity.

If you're a married guy, this is way to risky.

[HollowGuy]

What I like is knowing you don't have to send 10 messages a day as 8 out of 10 girls never reply. I send out maybe 1 or 2 a day & only to girls which I am very attracted to. I've found the site is more active with latinas as I've had really good success with them, especially 22-30 year old latina milfs.

I have been finding it difficult myself on the site. However I have had much success going to restaurants like a Hooters and getting girls. So far I have had 5 beautiful girls 1 ugly one. LOL.

[Zephyr69]

Thanks for the tips. Reflecting on what I am missing is that my message game needs to be more friendly and seductive. Also need to work on the relaxing the girls when they enter the room.

I am so young that some girls just don't want to deal with me due to lack of experience (which is true). Got to read some guides on the points you two made above.

May be the pussy be with all of us.

[Peter Johnson]

After a few orgasms she got on all fours and turned her pussy to me and turned her head back to look at me and said "fuck me daddy". OMG I was in heaven.

Ha I love it, that's why we are all here. For moments like that. And memories that you can enjoy for the rest of your life.

[SugarDaddio]

I travel for work about 70%. I have not kept stats but I feel as though I have had some very good results with SA when I travel. And I am definitely no prize LOL. I'm early 60's, overweight and bald. I do chat and message well but more importantly I'm very respectful and always complimentary. I simply tell them how excited they make me feel and how fortunate I am to have the opportunity to be with them. I start a week out messaging as many as I can before finally getting bored with it and then just work the ones who reply. I prefer shorter women and I'm good with very thin up to small BBWish. Age is not much of a consideration for me and have had amazing results with 20 to 50+ year olds. I have found two unicorns, my first in west suburbs of Chicago and the other in South Bend Indiana. The one in Chicago was a young 30 year old mom of a single daughter. She came to me in my hotel room. I had gotten a bottle of her favorite wine. After a little wine and getting to know each other while sitting on my bed we began caressing and kissing. She was nervous at first but started to relax (I do believe the wine helped for sure) and then I went down on her. She loved it. After a few orgasms she got on all fours and turned her pussy to me and turned her head back to look at me and said "fuck me daddy". OMG I was in heaven.

One trip to Birmingham I was able to hook up with 5 women in four nights. That has been my best week so far.

I start out offering 200 since I am hosting but will go to 300 (depending on how desperate I am LOL). I typically do not M&G as it is too much time required while traveling. And yes there have been some weeks that I went 0 fer%.

Yes I do love SA when I travel.

As always may the pussy be with you.

SD.

Hi all, just got into this game and trying things out on SA. I read through quite a bit of posts here and on reddit, but certainly not enough.

I would like to share my experience so far when I am using SA on short trip to a mid-size / large city far away. Since I have no time to M&G while traveling, the message I sent is straight to the point and use hosting in a luxury hotel as a bonus. Then I asked for details in in the texting phase and my budget is $$$ (would like to be lower to $$.

Stats:

50 replied to SA message.

20 moved to text.

15 are scams, non-responsive, or out of budget (1 k ppm).

5 accepted $$$ and set to meet in hotel (1 became a prepaid scam after a length text, 2 agree to M&G).

Only 1 showed up and it is way out of the scheduled time. She is new and expected a quickie. I should have said no but I was too horny at that point. It ended in a mixed experience.

Lesson learned for using SA on business travel:

The 1-2% success rate is real.

Better to start messaging a week prior to the meeting day. Not everyone is always online and responsive on the same day.

I am not sure how many message need to be sent, but I would lock down at least 4-5 girls per date. Only 1-2 will show up.

Ask for what their expectation of the date is for clarification before date.

Any suggestion is appreciated. I don't fit in the SB's ideal target profile (age 30-50, top 1% earner, skilled in this hobby) so others may have a lot higher rate of success.

[Peter Johnson]

Hi all, just got into this game and trying things out on SA. I read through quite a bit of posts here and on reddit, but certainly not enough.

I would like to share my experience so far when I am using SA on short trip to a mid-size / large city far away. Since I have no time to M&G while traveling, the message I sent is straight to the point and use hosting in a luxury hotel as a bonus. Then I asked for details in in the texting phase and my budget is $$$ (would like to be lower to $$.

The 1-2% success rate is real.

Better to start messaging a week prior to the meeting day. Not everyone is always online and responsive on the same day.

I am not sure how many message need to be sent, but I would lock down at least 4-5 girls per date. Only 1-2 will show up.

Ask for what their expectation of the date is for clarification before date.

Any suggestion is appreciated. I don't fit in the SB's ideal target profile (age 30-50, top 1% earner, skilled in this hobby) so others may have a lot higher rate of success.

I just took a trip out West for 10 days and got 4 girls, and gave 150,200, 200, and 350 (hot 19 y/o college girl, BBFS and pics). My success rate was much, much higher than 1-2%.

And I am older, and not a good looking dude, and certainly not top 1% earner. I suppose I am somewhat skilled in my texting seduction abilities though. I just try to talk to them like a new friend, and that seems to help. Also you can ask them tips about the area, and that is good for conversation. I do need to take more sex vacations, because banging girls in different cities just feels more exotic and exciting, somehow.

I almost never do a M&G, even here in the Atlanta area. It is largely a waste of time. I text with the girls to build trust, and then we usually meet at a hotel (outside in the parking lot) to make sure they feel comfortable. Then I book the room and we go up there for some fun. When traveling, I already have the room, so that's even better.

I have met one or two for coffee, before going back to the hotel, but that is rare. As you suggest, I will start messaging girls, in advance. Usually 2 weeks in advance, if possible. As you point out, a lot of them don't log into the site every day, so you want to increase the chance they will even see your message. Then I just start to move things forward with them. Most will still flake out or disappear, but in a decent sized town / city, I can get something going.

Anyway, it sounds like you are doing most everything right and have a solid approach. I'm sure you could refine your technique, as most all of us could. But your strategy seems sound.

Once the temps cool down, I hope to take some trips to Bham, Asheville, Greenville, etc. Those are good towns for sb's, and will try to do some hiking in the area. But never travel somewhere just for the sb action, or then they will all flake on you, and it ends up being a waste of time and money. But having them spice up your trip is the way to go. Nashville is also a great town for girls, and some FL places like Jacksonville, or Tampa, but no mountains there, so I don't visit often.

You bring up a good topic, and I think many mongers miss out on out of town girls like this. They can add a lot to a vacation / travel adventure.

[Zephyr69]

Hi all, just got into this game and trying things out on SA. I read through quite a bit of posts here and on reddit, but certainly not enough.

I would like to share my experience so far when I am using SA on short trip to a mid-size / large city far away. Since I have no time to M&G while traveling, the message I sent is straight to the point and use hosting in a luxury hotel as a bonus. Then I asked for details in in the texting phase and my budget is $$$ (would like to be lower to $$.

Stats:

50 replied to SA message.

20 moved to text.

15 are scams, non-responsive, or out of budget (1 k ppm).

5 accepted $$$ and set to meet in hotel (1 became a prepaid scam after a length text, 2 agree to M&G).

Only 1 showed up and it is way out of the scheduled time. She is new and expected a quickie. I should have said no but I was too horny at that point. It ended in a mixed experience.

Lesson learned for using SA on business travel:

The 1-2% success rate is real.

Better to start messaging a week prior to the meeting day. Not everyone is always online and responsive on the same day.

I am not sure how many message need to be sent, but I would lock down at least 4-5 girls per date. Only 1-2 will show up.

Ask for what their expectation of the date is for clarification before date.

Any suggestion is appreciated. I don't fit in the SB's ideal target profile (age 30-50, top 1% earner, skilled in this hobby) so others may have a lot higher rate of success.

[LovePunnany]

Do you really think that the girls on Sugardaddymeet are really that different from Seeking? It sounds like you are correct that you are having good luck on SDMeet, but the girls are not likely to be that different. Of course many girls are on both sites.

And doing more work, for the same reward, doesn't sound that attractive to me. I would get on SDmeet, just to see if I could find some undiscovered gems, but a naked. smiling 22 y/o who takes a load in her twat is going to be about the same, on either site.

Anyway it's a fun game to try to score girls from multiple sites and glad you are having so much success on there. That's what it's all about. Maybe I will try it, once I go through all my Seeking prospects, but that is going to take some time. I wish I was still in my 20's and could knock out three a week, but those days are long past....

Mr. Johnson point well taken. I am just having better luck on SDM and have to filter through less scamming.

[LovePunnany]

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...d-25c1f1c90383

LOL, interesting. All I am saying is that I was on Seeking for over one year and I had some good scores. With Sugar Daddy I have had more victories in a shorter time.

[Roddee]

https://members.seeking.com/member/2...d-25c1f1c90383

So have been communicating with this little beauty, scheduled to meet for lunch this Sunday to see if there is chemistry. If all goes well with the first meet then next week the fireworks will happen. Will keep you mongers posted.

Gentlemen I must say, Sugar Daddy requires more work than Seeking, but to me the pay off is better. There is little to no scammers on Sugar Daddy and the selection of women is better in my opinion.

https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/userP...serId=71355961