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  1. #30792
    Quote Originally Posted by RocketManP  [View Original Post]
    Very well said. And also TheABC brought very good points as well.

    Separating critique of quality of services / value of services / price of services from people as person, is critical here. Most people have no issue doing this in other industries, it's quite natural. If you think your food is undercooked you complain to the chef that this food sucks, you aren't treating him as an object or any other nonsense. Same with a janitor if he / she fails at their job or isn't good at it. Or cmt. Or doctor.

    So why is it even brought up in this industry? If a girl is fat, she's fat. If she can't fuck, she can't fuck.

    It has nothing to do with dehumanizing the girl. She may be an absolutely wonderful human being, but being a nice girl or guy isn't a profession.

    Not to mention, there are shills and org guys who noticed this rhetoric and have been using it to discredit other people's opinion to the point its often a part of their playbook.
    I just traced this chain back to the original thread. Who even is that guy? We're on this website to share information about each provider's quality of service and quality of looks. I think I can honestly fairly say that most mongers on here treat workers well and with respect. And even if it is transactional, it doesn't mean we are dehumanizing sex workers.

    But if a provider's looks and / or service is subpar, we are recognizing that the quality of the product (the package offered and NOT the worker themselves) is not to an acceptable standard. This is my money, and I am not going to pay for low quality product if I can help it. And that's what we are all here for.

    You CAN perceive services as transactional AND respect sex workers. They are not mutually dependent on one another.

  2. #30791
    Reading all these things about Erica, I'm a little hesitant.

    Are any of you like me? I can lose a boner with a pretty face if the service is too meh.

    So some questions. .

    Would you even characterize erica as erotic? Or is her default behavior and routine vanilla? I mean is she kinda reserved? Or can she feign some enthusiasm? There is a range between ice queen and voracious (1 to 10), and I wonder what you would rate her on this scale.

    Does her pussy get pretty wet naturally? Usually I do gentle FIV to get juices flowing, but erica is no FIV. (I remember my visit with Saki last year, and she was so dry I had to pump a lot of lube into her.).

    Does it look like erica is daydreaming when you're pounding her? Because that's what it sounds like. Sounds passive. I like more horny interaction and some initiative, even if not PSE. Otherwise, my boner dies quickly.

    You guys remember pretty face Chloe from Booker J years ago. I went soft because she went through this routine that didn't feel genuine (fakely genuine of course). She was just not enthusiastically erotic enough for me despite her pretty face.

    I need some connection; something more than just polite and comfortable.

  3. #30790
    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    If anyone wants (Erica) to stay longer, write more review for people on the fence.
    And while you guys are at it, it's not's a bad idea to include TER. Particularly for those unfamiliar to this thread.

  4. #30789

    Erica is sugar

    Younger, hotter, and better than that Bella. Erica is not too sensitive that you would have to be way gentle to have a good session. She is not extremely sensitive in DATY either and can enjoy it. Erica is not an ice queen. She made me feel very comfortable. I will see if repeats get better.

    For anyone who understands my standard, I highly recommend Erica. If anyone wants her to stay longer, write more review for people on the fence. This is a chance for LA to train her to become a superstar. I don't care about services or I would help improve her service.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the review. It 's now a mixed bag about her which puts her in some real perspective than the initial hype. This one gives me "Bella" vibes who came around a few years back being too sensitive and you had to be way too gentle to have a good session. The cynical part of me thinks that she'll be this way for the foreseeable future until she ends up like a magician and poof, no more Erica. As of today, she's still too hard to book and requires prebooking to be able to see her. So the take here is to see her for looks, but service is a distant second? I saw a girl like this in my earlier days who was very good looking but was a complete ice queen. I don't think it's the same comparison but it did remind me of that experience.

  5. #30788
    Quote Originally Posted by BonerAppetitty  [View Original Post]
    Whether she can grow out of her shell depends on repeated mongers with the tolerant and patience to teach her new tricks.
    Sounds like you found a good match. Indeed, Erica will definitely have her repeats. And to that extent, her learning curve has the potential to be steeper, and perhaps with a higher ceiling. If she sticks it out -no pun intended- maybe it'll have a positive impact incoming talent.

  6. #30787

    KTE booker

    HYA club keeps watch for the Baby brand. I still go there for young girls. Someone just mentioned their girl yesterday. I don't think he got the correct cup size but everything else I can agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    I remember people going here back in 19? Or 2020 and no one seems to bring them up anymore. I don't remember hearing good things about them then but they seem to have fell off a cliff in terms of popularity as late. I can't remember the last time anyone posted about this agency.
    Quote Originally Posted by Poopsandgiggle  [View Original Post]
    Wow just saw her and she's perfect. Petite and slender with natural a or b cup tits. Total civvie vibes. I don't know where she came from but I just became a regular.

    Highly recommend!

  7. #30786

    Cola will be a rebrand

    Your backup for Erica should be Remi or Bitna.

    Quote Originally Posted by TrustProcess  [View Original Post]
    Great review. Anyone seen Cola from SFK or Kbliss? I like to have my backups lined up in case the first choice is not available at my preferred time slot.

  8. #30785

    Sexy Very Fun KGirl Erica

    Real and accurate photoshop pics. Prettier than 95% of Kgirls in SoCal. Probably as pretty as any prettiest current Kgirl you know. I prefer looks and inexperienced young girls over service so she's perfect for me. Only con is magnums should avoid her cause you and her won't have a good time.

    She smiled every time we made eye contact. BBBJ and mish with eye contact but she closed her eyes sometimes. The way she initiated kissing is the way I kiss cute girls. Made the whole experience felt very GFE. Did everything I asked with a smile. Great attitude and a submissive pleaser.

    Orgasm easily as CaptCaveman99 said. She did tell me to be soft on DATY and no FIV. I easily adjusted and made it enjoyable for her. She seemed nice and friendly. Pretty good English. Someone else can train her with repeat visits. Already good enough for me and may get better with repeats.

    Whether she can grow out of her shell depends on repeated mongers with the tolerant and patience to teach her new tricks. She's not so GPS that she won't try.

    Quote Originally Posted by SsStuntCock  [View Original Post]
    Like I've said before, no one will say she's service over looks. Look, I'm all for girls that are new-ish, and I can dial it back plenty while they adjust. But you can tell from a girl's whole vibe and energy whether she wants to grow and improve to provide a more pleasurable experience. That is, for you or the next guy that you might've referred her way. I didn't get that sense from Erica one bit. So unfortunately I hate to agree with your cynicism. She will likely leave before she grows out of her shell.

    To the folks that still haven't seen her, do yourself a favor and don't get caught up with her looks. You'd be better off getting inside her head, making her think that she's going to have to win you over some other way. Worth a shot at least.

  9. #30784

    Bonnie's Height

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    I think I found her. She left LSC earlier this month to work down here as recent reviews have mentioned. Reviews says she's tall, I wonder if she was like Sunlight? I never got a chance to go see her though I was tempted to before she ghosted out of LA. The guys seem to rate her pretty positive. She was an unknown to me yesterday and with upcharge. Another downside for me was she's in the OC.

    https://www.theeroticreview.com/revi...2158268-349715

    https://naughtynsexy.com/talent/bonnie/
    Sunlight was legit between 5'10" to 6,' and they even advertised her shorter as 5'7". It looks like Bonnie has never been listed as taller than 5'4".

  10. #30783
    Quote Originally Posted by EasyPeasyDong  [View Original Post]
    That's LSC Bonnie. Great service. Photos spot-on.
    I think I found her. She left LSC earlier this month to work down here as recent reviews have mentioned. Reviews says she's tall, I wonder if she was like Sunlight? I never got a chance to go see her though I was tempted to before she ghosted out of LA. The guys seem to rate her pretty positive. She was an unknown to me yesterday and with upcharge. Another downside for me was she's in the OC.

    https://www.theeroticreview.com/revi...2158268-349715

    https://naughtynsexy.com/talent/bonnie/

  11. #30782
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    Posts: 17
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptCaveman99  [View Original Post]
    Won't repeat what accurately has already been stated on her. Definitely less experienced and was extremely sensitive in daty. On the one hand that was kind of nice as veteran k-girls typically don't orgasm as easily in my experience due to their mileage. She orgasmed multiple times. So, don't act like a bulldog on a pork chop while down there or you'll get the "not so hard, honey". I will likely repeat as she is the prettiest & great body non-upcharge k-girl I have seen in a long time and service was good enough. Hopefully, she sticks around and levels up on her service game.
    Its amazing you got to meet or book her, I tried kbliss and SFG so far and no luck. New to the kscene, always been around MP and had friends, I know no one in the kscene but I really wanted Erica due to so many great reviews here!

    Its my 1st post and I am completely new here and to the Kscene. Anyone who can help me and guide me! Thanks in Advance!

  12. #30781
    Quote Originally Posted by BastardChorum  [View Original Post]
    It's important to isolate treating kgirls well and critiquing their service as two wholly separate things. One may have an affect on the other or vice versa but at the end of the day, they are two distinct aspects of mongering.

    I very much doubt that the vast majority of mongers treat kgirls poorly or sees them only as sex dolls or less than human beings. If the bookers are doing their job correctly, these types of individuals are usually weeded out during vetting or BL shortly after a session or two with kgirls. Small infractions are rarely heard about and / or disseminated in the community. More often than not, only the extreme cases bubble up to the top and reach the forums (broken ribs, fake currency, theft, nonconsensual filming, etc.). While each incident is tragic, the small amount of similarly severe cases is often taken at face value and mischaracterized as rampant in the scene. Which it is not, this is just selection bias. Taking a step back, given the amount of agencies and kgirls across the LA / OC area and however many hundreds of sessions that occur everyday over however many years these incidents occur, the percentage of this happening to kgirls is miniscule. I'm not discounting how horrible it is, but we all need to take into consideration the likelihood also. For instance, in our lifetime we have close to a 1% chance of dying in a car crash but most of us still choose to commute and drive cars.

    As for the later aspect, every monger possesses an idealized concept of what they perceive as good service. This becomes a grading rubric each kgirl will be tested against. How well they mesh and score will determine what kind of reviews will posted after the fact. Given the circumstance and dynamics involved, critiquing a kgirl's performance is integral, if not mandatory, to the whole process. You are paying for a service and not with chump change either. If, for example, I'm shelling out $300 at two restaurants: one has great ambiance, knowledgeable wait staff, and great food while another has wailing kids running amok, servers that clearly hate their job, and food not much better than the Sizzler's around the corner, I sure am going to be complaining to management and posting a review reflective of what I experience on Yelp, Google reviews, Tripadvisor, or similar platforms.

    Ultimately, I don't think we mongers as a whole are treating kgirls unfairly. With how donations are pretty similar regardless of where you go (not including upcharges), kgirls demonstrating exceptional characteristics / service and those that fall short should equally be called out to benefit the community and give bookers notice on what we want and like. Moreover, upcharges were a consequence and byproduct of kgirls themselves and the bookers ran with it. The delineation between upcharge and not upcharge girls and all issues arising because of it is their damn own fault. In your words "Eric (and I would add all kgirls) are solely here for the money, not sex". I agree with that statement but I would also add that we mongers are here solely (most of us anyways) for the sex, not the inadequacies originating from said kgirl that affects it. We're all consenting adults here. The ability of certain kgirls to be able to cope with fucking strangers day in and day out, to have the mental fortitude to deliver consistent service to the majority of her clients, and to not drag drama into the session is the linchpin in separating the superstars and the duds. I don't think, even for a second, that evaluating a service I paid for dehumanizes the people involve. We all (should) know and be aware that it boils down to a transaction and a service, bought and paid for. I can be polite, cordial, and courteous while objectively evaluating how well you please me. I have faith that most of us here can too. And it should no way indicate that we are callous or otherwise for doing so. If this still sounds dehumanizing or offensive to you, then we just have to agree to disagree. I can't speak for others but, personally, I pursue the good fucks and don't treat the dud fucks any less than the good ones.
    Very well said. And also TheABC brought very good points as well.

    Separating critique of quality of services / value of services / price of services from people as person, is critical here. Most people have no issue doing this in other industries, it's quite natural. If you think your food is undercooked you complain to the chef that this food sucks, you aren't treating him as an object or any other nonsense. Same with a janitor if he / she fails at their job or isn't good at it. Or cmt. Or doctor.

    So why is it even brought up in this industry? If a girl is fat, she's fat. If she can't fuck, she can't fuck.

    It has nothing to do with dehumanizing the girl. She may be an absolutely wonderful human being, but being a nice girl or guy isn't a profession.

    Not to mention, there are shills and org guys who noticed this rhetoric and have been using it to discredit other people's opinion to the point its often a part of their playbook.

  13. #30780
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAbc  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the review. It 's now a mixed bag about her which puts her in some real perspective than the initial hype. This one gives me "Bella" vibes who came around a few years back being too sensitive and you had to be way too gentle to have a good session. The cynical part of me thinks that she'll be this way for the foreseeable future until she ends up like a magician and poof, no more Erica. As of today, she's still too hard to book and requires prebooking to be able to see her. So the take here is to see her for looks, but service is a distant second?
    Like I've said before, no one will say she's service over looks. Look, I'm all for girls that are new-ish, and I can dial it back plenty while they adjust. But you can tell from a girl's whole vibe and energy whether she wants to grow and improve to provide a more pleasurable experience. That is, for you or the next guy that you might've referred her way. I didn't get that sense from Erica one bit. So unfortunately I hate to agree with your cynicism. She will likely leave before she grows out of her shell.

    To the folks that still haven't seen her, do yourself a favor and don't get caught up with her looks. You'd be better off getting inside her head, making her think that she's going to have to win you over some other way. Worth a shot at least.

  14. #30779
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptCaveman99  [View Original Post]
    Won't repeat what accurately has already been stated on her. Definitely less experienced and was extremely sensitive in daty. On the one hand that was kind of nice as veteran k-girls typically don't orgasm as easily in my experience due to their mileage. She orgasmed multiple times. So, don't act like a bulldog on a pork chop while down there or you'll get the "not so hard, honey". I will likely repeat as she is the prettiest & great body non-upcharge k-girl I have seen in a long time and service was good enough. Hopefully, she sticks around and levels up on her service game.
    Thanks for the review. It 's now a mixed bag about her which puts her in some real perspective than the initial hype. This one gives me "Bella" vibes who came around a few years back being too sensitive and you had to be way too gentle to have a good session. The cynical part of me thinks that she'll be this way for the foreseeable future until she ends up like a magician and poof, no more Erica. As of today, she's still too hard to book and requires prebooking to be able to see her. So the take here is to see her for looks, but service is a distant second? I saw a girl like this in my earlier days who was very good looking but was a complete ice queen. I don't think it's the same comparison but it did remind me of that experience.

  15. #30778

    Erica: My $0. 02

    Won't repeat what accurately has already been stated on her. Definitely less experienced and was extremely sensitive in daty. On the one hand that was kind of nice as veteran k-girls typically don't orgasm as easily in my experience due to their mileage. She orgasmed multiple times. So, don't act like a bulldog on a pork chop while down there or you'll get the "not so hard, honey". I will likely repeat as she is the prettiest & great body non-upcharge k-girl I have seen in a long time and service was good enough. Hopefully, she sticks around and levels up on her service game.

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