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  1. #29975

    This, exactly

    Quote Originally Posted by HeartlessJay  [View Original Post]
    Can we just take a step back on this whole topic of did they or did they not change the sheets at BW? How many times have you all been to a hotel or apartment for a "massage". Dudes come in and out all day and all night, and there's no way the sheets are changed. Same pillows, same sheets, probably 25 loads a day are shot on those beds, and we're laying in the filth too. And we're not bringing our own sheets either. So although in a perfect world we'd like everything to be squeaky clean for us, that's just not a realistic expectation. And from my experience, BW is as clean as your average jack shack, if not cleaner. The girl brings in a new sheet every time. I have no proof that it's been freshly laundered, but so far they haven't smelled like ass.
    BW is very clean by AMP / jack shack standards. They do wash the sheets and change them after every massage. When you walk in there's no sheet on the table. They put one on after you arrive. It is very likely that the sheet they put in has already had a couple mongers laying on it that day. As I've pointed out, washing as many sheets as they would go through in a day is a physical and logistical impossibility with their setup. That's why legit spas use linen service. You just can't do that much laundry even if you tried. I'd share pictures to demonstrate but that's a violation of the photo gallery policy here so I won't do that. But compare that to SH downstairs and many other jack shacks that go days without washing sheets, and as Jay pointed out, people who monger in hotel rooms where all the mongers for the day shoot their loads all over the same bed with the same sheets, and the sheets at BW are the least of your concerns. They always look and smell clean. I'm sure if someone popped all over a sheet they wouldn't re-use it. They might spray them with Febreze or something else to keep them smelling fresh. That's not a bad thing as I've also pointed out and is also done in the legit spa industry.

    So bottom line is don't worry about sanitation at BW. They keep the place clean. I've said it wouldn't pass a health department inspection and that's very true, but the reality is most of our kitchens wouldn't pass a health department inspection either. I wouldn't go there, or anywhere else, if you've had a recent surgery and your incision hasn't fully closed up yet. That's going to be me in a month or so. I'm going to be staying away until I'm fully healed, but other than that there is nothing to worry about.

    If you are concerned, take a beach towel or a single bed sheet in and just tell them you have sensitive skin allergies and prefer laying on your own. Shouldn't be a big deal.

  2. #29974
    Troll, just add me to your ignore list.


    Posts: 101

    No gloves

    Quote Originally Posted by NiceGuy99  [View Original Post]
    Spicy, respectfully, I have heard Andie and others putting on a glove prior to anal stimulation. They are very thin disposable gloves and the feeling is probably highly similar to a bare finger. How have you determined that Andie does not wear a glove?

    I've been to BW 40+ times and, in my experience they all wear a glove when providing deep anal penetration. If anyone is concerned they should just ask their MT.

    I can also assure you there are no transsexuals at BW, all MTs at BW are Chinese cis women.

    I'm not trying to argue with you, just share my experience..
    You "heard", but you actually didn't see the gloves and couldn't feel the gloves; and surely didn't see them thrown away. Believe what you want, we can never prove it one way or another. And no hating on trans, OK? Some of us enjoy the company.

  3. #29973
    Quote Originally Posted by PeterGuzinya  [View Original Post]
    A comment was made earlier about the floors being damp at BW and it possibly is related to this as well. A couple of the girls at BW bring plastic pails into the room that contain a soapy liquid. They use it to wash down your genitalia and ass. I'm guessing no matter the quality of your work on the crapper I'm sure some mongers might have some issues. They are pretty thorough and their hands are also cleaned to a certain extent beyond their normal hand washing. Probably not to Grimmy's standards (kidding Grimmy LOL) but at very least as good as you'll find in this biz. I've never found their hygiene suspect there. I wonder why all the discussion about BW when everyone's lining up at F and C hahaha.
    Actually some of the girls at BW almost seem to be neurotic about germs. I had a provider who sprays my hands with sanitizer and her own on the flip, then she repeats, she makes sure to see that I have wiped the sanitizer into every corner of my hands, and then a toilette. After the heavy breathing session, I get all 11 fingers cleaned again too. So I would say those girls are more germ conscious than I myself I am. Not to reveal too many personal details, but if I have eaten a lot of spicy curry or have sloppy joes at my friend Kevin's home, and take a dump, its sufficient for me, to just use some soap and hot water for 10 seconds.

    Regarding sheets. SH never changes them. And its not even possible to get legit there anymore. If you go to SH you're dick will be pulled whether you want it or not. But at BW, I get a new sheet at the start of the session, and it smells fresh. Like morning dew or sunshine on a summer day.

    I for one am not going to respond to any further nonsense reports by some guys who seem to have a vendetta against BW.

  4. #29972

    Hold The Line for One and All

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBoDonk  [View Original Post]
    So after I got traumatized by Sunnywell pooping lady. I decided I needed some relaxation and headed to Bamboo, where normal tip would be 40 for HJ, back in the day there was a girl that did FS, but looks like she is no longer there for a long time. After the massage she asked for a tip of 80. I explained that HJ is 40 everywhere, to which she said that there are people paying 80. So I obviously disagreed and left with nothing. After reading reports here from some fellow mongers where they say that they tip over asking price now I understand why this is happening.

    1. Dear friends, if you are part of this community try to contribute not only with reports but also with cooperation. Personally, I consider myself a sex addict (otherwise why I would be here 5 am first thing in the morning) and can not afford to pay 80 for every HJ I get. Don't be selfish and have a sense of camaraderie when tipping. I don't know dude, if you like her ask her to be your girlfriend or smthng. But don't inflate prices for all of us.

    2. If you really like providers don't overpay, as you are causing inflation in the market. Just buy her some chocolate or some other shit.

    Thanks to some guys here Bamboo will now charge x2 what they charge for on their nasty and dirty sheets. By the way, yes the sheets are dirty, I once got some weird infection from their sheets, they don't change them for months.
    First of all of the girls at all of the shops have decided amonst themselves that 60 is the new 40. Apparnetly they have pole polishers OPEC where they decide such things. I have been dick-mailed for 60 at BW, and half a dozen other OC places. The only one who has yet to do this is SH. That being said, I have never heard of a girl asking 80 although one of the girls at BW did 60 was not a very good tip. This whole thing is outrageous, because even 2020, not a single girl ever demanded 40, and in fact with shitty service you could get 35 with no complaints.

    Regarding your plea for Monger Cartel. Yeah I have said that myself a few times. When they won't take 50, then you have to be ready to walk. Or least say "I was expecting to pay 40, but if you 60, just give me some more foot massage and I'll give you 15". I did that once, and the girl got very noticably agitated and decided 50 was not so bad afterall. So be ready to burn the session.

    The other thing is to tell the girls and the MMS's that your salary only went up 1-4% but they are raising the house fee 30-40% and the girls are raising tips 50-100% ($60-80), and that blows throiugh your monger budget for the month, so instead of coming twice a week, now is one a week or whatever. I think this should hit home if people actually open their mouths and say it because almost all the shops seem to be suffering from slow downs. They need to be educated in essential economic principles. If you raise prices greedily above an equilibrium point, you make more per sessions, but your total number of sessions drops, and your overall income drops.

    They may assume that business is dropping becuase its summer or guys are not horny anymore. So you got to spell it out for them in neon lights. "With these higher prices, I won't come back very often. If the prices were in line with actual inflation ($43 tip would be consistent with 8% LA inflation), then I would come more often. Then when they are sitting around in an empty shop and the door opens and a monger comes in, gradually their demands will soften.

  5. #29971

    Very bad experience in Bamboo

    So after I got traumatized by Sunnywell pooping lady. I decided I needed some relaxation and headed to Bamboo, where normal tip would be 40 for HJ, back in the day there was a girl that did FS, but looks like she is no longer there for a long time. After the massage she asked for a tip of 80. I explained that HJ is 40 everywhere, to which she said that there are people paying 80. So I obviously disagreed and left with nothing. After reading reports here from some fellow mongers where they say that they tip over asking price now I understand why this is happening.

    1. Dear friends, if you are part of this community try to contribute not only with reports but also with cooperation. Personally, I consider myself a sex addict (otherwise why I would be here 5 am first thing in the morning) and can not afford to pay 80 for every HJ I get. Don't be selfish and have a sense of camaraderie when tipping. I don't know dude, if you like her ask her to be your girlfriend or smthng. But don't inflate prices for all of us.

    2. If you really like providers don't overpay, as you are causing inflation in the market. Just buy her some chocolate or some other shit.

    Thanks to some guys here Bamboo will now charge x2 what they charge for on their nasty and dirty sheets. By the way, yes the sheets are dirty, I once got some weird infection from their sheets, they don't change them for months.

  6. #29970
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmy23  [View Original Post]
    Ozonated water meets healthcare standards. Hospitals have been using it instead of detergent for years. The medical linen supply company I use for sheets washes with ozonated water. Most hotels wash with ozonated water. So it has been extensively tested for sanitizing, and it also does a very good job of getting massage oils and gels out of linens. We use all kinds of facial products and our towels end up with womens makeup in them. The ozonated water takes it all right off. You have to wash in cold water because the ozone won't fully dissolve in hot. Again, the problem isn't the odor of the ozonated water because it has literally no scent. The problem is that people get lazy with the drying cycle and put stuff away while it's still slightly damp, and it mildews. You usually need something to put just the tiniest bit of scent in there to keep everything smelling fresh. Not all spas do this but most do. AMPs, probably not.
    If you say you can get the massage oil out, I'm sold. The reviews are pretty good but they don't seal the deal like massage oil or makeup. One newspaper mention the clean smell but I guess that's the ozone smell without rinising.

    I mean you are not limited to use the machine all the time. If there are difficult stuff I can use hot water and percarbonate.

  7. #29969

    207 location?

    Quote Originally Posted by KammyMike  [View Original Post]
    Found this AMP by accident on Bristol while getting some lunch. Small head said check it out. Went upstairs through a metal gate. This complex have to AMP next to each other. Walk inside 207 and saw Asian hottie in a short tight skirt man Kiki in a med doc over coat. She said 40 hhr, ok. 5 minutes decent back rub and flip. Ask what I want, HJ 60 and everything 120. Didn't have enough and opt for HJ with top down. Not bad, would I repeat maybe.
    Name of the place is Star 207? City?

  8. #29968

    Reality Check

    Can we just take a step back on this whole topic of did they or did they not change the sheets at BW? How many times have you all been to a hotel or apartment for a "massage". Dudes come in and out all day and all night, and there's no way the sheets are changed. Same pillows, same sheets, probably 25 loads a day are shot on those beds, and we're laying in the filth too. And we're not bringing our own sheets either. So although in a perfect world we'd like everything to be squeaky clean for us, that's just not a realistic expectation. And from my experience, BW is as clean as your average jack shack, if not cleaner. The girl brings in a new sheet every time. I have no proof that it's been freshly laundered, but so far they haven't smelled like ass.

  9. #29967

    Star 207 is old BFF

    Must be BFF under new ownership trying to reinvent itself? Was very poorly run previously, to bad, because it had potential. There was some good pussy to be had with a few hotties for some no BS FS, but some suffered from GPS (seems to be more common lately), that among other things like bad management shut them down.

    May be with a visit to see if things have changed.

    Quote Originally Posted by KammyMike  [View Original Post]
    Found this AMP by accident on Bristol while getting some lunch. Small head said check it out. Went upstairs through a metal gate. This complex have to AMP next to each other. Walk inside 207 and saw Asian hottie in a short tight skirt man Kiki in a med doc over coat. She said 40 hhr, ok. 5 minutes decent back rub and flip. Ask what I want, HJ 60 and everything 120. Didn't have enough and opt for HJ with top down. Not bad, would I repeat maybe.

  10. #29966
    Quote Originally Posted by JamesD2004  [View Original Post]
    Can you keep a new white towel white for long? I'm sure it sanitizes well. And that's very important in an MP, LOL. Odor isn't a big problem. They come from fluid and given enough water they will be gone after repeated wash. For stains, you have to use stain remover anyway. I doubt about the grease. The oxidizing power of ozonated water is a lot weaker than oxiclean, which is percarbonate, which is washing soda plus hydrogen peroxide. You can't dissolve too much ozone gas into water. I calculated that the concentration it's just about enough to disinfect surfaces and fruits and salads. I ended up with a few. One takes forever to arrive from China. Others aren't allowed to ship to CA. I snatched up the ones that are allowed.

    On the other hand, the hydrogen peroxide in the percarbonate is quite concentrated. You can see your skin being dissolved in first-aid bottles. The percarbonate is just about enough to handle a dishwasher load. So I don't think a much weaker oxidizer can handle a load of clothes. Though I know there is a lot less grease in the laundry and you can use hot water.

    The other thing is that I run the machines outdoors and bubble the ozone into the water. The excess gas is fatal. So I wonder if you may add too much ozone into the water, which can come back out if only a small amount. I also doubt if one pass of the water is sufficient. Ideally, the ozonated water keep going back up to receive more ozone.
    Ozonated water meets healthcare standards. Hospitals have been using it instead of detergent for years. The medical linen supply company I use for sheets washes with ozonated water. Most hotels wash with ozonated water. So it has been extensively tested for sanitizing, and it also does a very good job of getting massage oils and gels out of linens. We use all kinds of facial products and our towels end up with womens makeup in them. The ozonated water takes it all right off. You have to wash in cold water because the ozone won't fully dissolve in hot. Again, the problem isn't the odor of the ozonated water because it has literally no scent. The problem is that people get lazy with the drying cycle and put stuff away while it's still slightly damp, and it mildews. You usually need something to put just the tiniest bit of scent in there to keep everything smelling fresh. Not all spas do this but most do. AMPs, probably not.

  11. #29965

    Bamboo Wood wet floor from foot massages

    I like foot massages, and they do a decent job at Bamboo Wood. I always go for the 90 minute massage with a foot massage. However, a bit of water may get on the floors. I been there enough times to know that the masseuses are all real women. Have you noticed that Bamoo Wood is advertising on Facebook? The more they are successful, the more enemies they will have.

  12. #29964

    Star 207

    Found this AMP by accident on Bristol while getting some lunch. Small head said check it out. Went upstairs through a metal gate. This complex have to AMP next to each other. Walk inside 207 and saw Asian hottie in a short tight skirt man Kiki in a med doc over coat. She said 40 hhr, ok. 5 minutes decent back rub and flip. Ask what I want, HJ 60 and everything 120. Didn't have enough and opt for HJ with top down. Not bad, would I repeat maybe.

  13. #29963
    I am a troll, ignore me


    Posts: 239

    Gloves and Transexuals at BW

    Quote Originally Posted by SpicyCurry  [View Original Post]
    Bamboo is relatively clean compared to similar shops in the area. Just delusional though how these old guys think they're clean after getting finger fucked. Niceguy99 says Andie wears gloves and throws them away, Not!

    Besides the trans, there are a few good providers at BW. Just understand that those fingers have been in and out of assholes all day.
    Spicy, respectfully, I have heard Andie and others putting on a glove prior to anal stimulation. They are very thin disposable gloves and the feeling is probably highly similar to a bare finger. How have you determined that Andie does not wear a glove?

    I've been to BW 40+ times and, in my experience they all wear a glove when providing deep anal penetration. If anyone is concerned they should just ask their MT.

    I can also assure you there are no transsexuals at BW, all MTs at BW are Chinese cis women.

    I'm not trying to argue with you, just share my experience.

    Best,
    NG99.

  14. #29962
    Quote Originally Posted by Grimmy23  [View Original Post]
    Febreze is ok. Let me tell you what happens even at fully legit spas. Most of us don't use detergent. That's for a couple reasons. First of all is it's a pretty big expense. A spa can easily go through a couple hundred bucks worth of detergent in a week. The other thing is that no matter what detergent you use, someone is going to be allergic to it. Even so-called non-allergenic detergents, someone is going to be allergic, or not like the scent and then you get nasty Yelp reviews about your detergent, or whatever. So what a lot of us do is instead of detergent, we use ozonated water. For a few hundred bucks (closer to 1000 for a commercial grade one) you can buy a little machine that generates ozone into the water going into your washing machine. Ozone is actually more effective at cleaning than detergent. Hospitals and hotels have been doing that for years, for the same reasons I mentioned. It gets everything nice and clean and sanitized.

    The problem with ozonated water is it has no scent. That's a good thing. EXCEPT what happens is some dumbass employee folds some of the towels and puts them away when they're still slightly damp, and they take on a musty smell that they pass on to everything else in the cabinet. It happens all the freaking time. The linens are clean but they just don't smell pleasant. If you have a scented detergent it covers that up, but then you have the allergy issues. So spas look for some other way to put the tiniest bit of scent back in, just enough to cover up the funky smell. At my spa we put a TINY amount of Pine Sol in the washing machine. Not so much that the linens smell like Pine Sol, but just enough to keep them from getting funky. Some spas spray with an essential oil solution. Some use Febreze. And there are a wide variety of other solutions to the problem.

    So the Febreze in itself is fine, but it is of course very possible that they're just Febrezing sheets between clients and re-using them, at least for some of the clients.
    Can you keep a new white towel white for long? I'm sure it sanitizes well. And that's very important in an MP, LOL. Odor isn't a big problem. They come from fluid and given enough water they will be gone after repeated wash. For stains, you have to use stain remover anyway. I doubt about the grease. The oxidizing power of ozonated water is a lot weaker than oxiclean, which is percarbonate, which is washing soda plus hydrogen peroxide. You can't dissolve too much ozone gas into water. I calculated that the concentration it's just about enough to disinfect surfaces and fruits and salads. I ended up with a few. One takes forever to arrive from China. Others aren't allowed to ship to CA. I snatched up the ones that are allowed.

    On the other hand, the hydrogen peroxide in the percarbonate is quite concentrated. You can see your skin being dissolved in first-aid bottles. The percarbonate is just about enough to handle a dishwasher load. So I don't think a much weaker oxidizer can handle a load of clothes. Though I know there is a lot less grease in the laundry and you can use hot water.

    The other thing is that I run the machines outdoors and bubble the ozone into the water. The excess gas is fatal. So I wonder if you may add too much ozone into the water, which can come back out if only a small amount. I also doubt if one pass of the water is sufficient. Ideally, the ozonated water keep going back up to receive more ozone.

  15. #29961
    I am a troll, ignore me


    Posts: 239

    Beach Towel at BW

    Quote Originally Posted by SCJohn  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone tried bringing their own sheets or a big beach towel? Would they care / mind?
    John, I doubt very much that they would care. I recommend being polite and not accusing them of using soiled linen. IF asked, just tell them you prefer whatever it is that you are bringing.

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