"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**Peter Johnson** · 06-11-22 22:42

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...e-f2dd02b17820

I talked to this one a good bit, and she seems like could be aa winner, but I just don't like fake tits. They are usually a dealkiller for me. She seems cool though and is in the swinger lifestyle. Just not worth it for me to pursue, with other more natural options out there.

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Jlthebestest

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...e-f2dd02b17820

I texted with this one too. Again, she seems nice and friendly, but wants platonic to start off with, and then ease into something more physical.. Of course I'm not paying her to non sexually hang out with me, so go for it if you want.

**Peter Johnson** · 06-11-22 21:43

https://members.seeking.com/member/0...a-46c0ca9d9b26

Sarah is almost certainly a scammer. She did better than most of them, and wasted about an hour of my time. But she demands electronic payment (Zelle, Cashapp) "before leaving the house or sending my address".

I told her I would give her cash up front when we met in person and she said "You clearly have trust issues".

Also on her profile under "Recent", it says "Canada". I don't even know what that means. Maybe she is logging in from there.

Anyway, beware..... Or send her $300 in advance, and I'm sure she will show up.

**SoonerFan72** · 06-11-22 19:01

Originally Posted by HhDancer09 [View Original Post]

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I just started looking at this part of the forum. I have a SA account and I'm logged in but every time I click on one of the links in here, I get a profile not available message for recent posts. I doubt that the profile is deleted that fast but just wondering what the issue is?

In a few recents posts, the OP linked to messages in his inbox, not the profile of the girl. That message sounds like what you get when you click on a link to someone elses messages.

**ElPerron** · 06-11-22 12:49

Originally Posted by ElPerron [View Original Post]

This chick has some gang realted crime history.

Why some of you guys doing believe what I said, I had been in the game for more than ten years, if I do report a bad apple is because I know what I am thinking about, I hate when I get this PMs asking about my post.

**HhDancer09** · 06-10-22 23:05

Originally Posted by TooHotForYou [View Original Post]

They either blocked you, you blocked them, or they deleted their profile.

I haven't really interacted with anyone on there so the first two would not be the case. Guess they deleted their profile pretty soon after people post on here.

They delete their profile when they have enough johns, it has nothing to do with this forum.

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**TooHotForYou** · 06-10-22 21:36

Originally Posted by HhDancer09 [View Original Post]

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I just started looking at this part of the forum. I have a SA account and I'm logged in but every time I click on one of the links in here, I get a profile not available message for recent posts. I doubt that the profile is deleted that fast but just wondering what the issue is?

They either blocked you, you blocked them, or they deleted their profile.

**HhDancer09** · 06-10-22 20:10

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I just started looking at this part of the forum. I have a SA account and I'm logged in but every time I click on one of the links in here, I get a profile not available message for recent posts. I doubt that the profile is deleted that fast but just wondering what the issue is?

**Peter Johnson** · 06-10-22 18:59

Originally Posted by AquaMela12 [View Original Post]

She is a nympho and would totally jump in first meet. What are you all doing wining and dining her? LOL. Totally dtf and she is a swinger chick.

And how would you expect any of us to know this? If you have some information about it, then please share it. How much ppm, etc.

**Peter Johnson** · 06-10-22 18:28

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

You would best be advised to do any of this by text, because if you do it on SA, you're going to get banned. And they make it really hard to get another account even if you want to after you've lost your membership $. They fingerprint your IP address, photos, credit cards, MAC address, etc. And all that will have to be changed if you want another account.

I have used the same IP address, and MAC address with new SA accts, after getting banned with past ones. But yes of course use new email, photo, and credit card, and probably good to use a new IP when you register and make the payment.

**Peter Johnson** · 06-10-22 18:25

Originally Posted by Gatka [View Original Post]

Typically. I don't care to fuck them more than one unless the pussy so good they have me cumming really quick like 5-6 minutes. Those I will repeat on.

Same here. When I am banging a hot girl, and immediately after, I think I will repeat, but after a day or two, I just want something new. Not that repeat pussy isn't worthwhile, or even sometimes great. But there is nothing like... *** New Pussy ***. The first time you slide in so deep. Just glorious.

With BJs though, I will repeat if the woman is really excellent at it. But doesn't mean I want to stick my dick in her and have those risks (and likely extra cost), without the big reward, as with someone new.

**Gatka** · 06-10-22 17:56

Originally Posted by QuartJess [View Original Post]

One and done? I at least try to sample the goods twice before I move on to the next.

Typically. I don't care to fuck them more than one unless the pussy so good they have me cumming really quick like 5-6 minutes. Those I will repeat on.

**FarFarAway** · 06-10-22 17:47

Originally Posted by GoneForGood97 [View Original Post]

I'm not saying you can always sucessfully negotiate an 800 PPM GPS to something reasonable, but my go to strat if they move that fast is to slow them down. Tell them it can depend on chemistry, and I'd need to know some details about what they enjoy before we talk arrangement details. Then ask what she enjoys sexually, get as specific as you can, and lean into whatever she tells you (remember, there's a reason women watch less porn than men but READ way more porn than men.) Get them turned on and liking you, then move into some common questions that can also be used as negotiation points: can you host? Covered or uncovered? Finish inside or somewhere else? Is she comfortable sending nudes?

At this point it's ok to hear no a few times (though clearly too many and you should just move on). Then ask her what her $ expectation is. When they reply back 800 PPM, use their previous "no" to move them to reasonable number. The bold way to do it (though this can backfire) is something like "Well 800 is steep, but especially if we have to use protection and you can't host. I want to ensure your comfortable, but since you can't host and we're using protection, what would be a more fair rate?

See if you can get her to "bid against herself" by providing an initial counteroffer (without you needing to "show your cards" regarding budget). I've had girls drop from 800 to 400 real quick. If they do, just reply "That's much more reasonable; Let's do 300 and we'll have an arrangement. When can we meet?" If they don't come down drastically or at all, throw your offer out and move on. Let some dumb sap who doesn't know how to negotiate keep her fed, while you find the next young hot thing who actually wants to see you, and isn't just looking to just max their payout.

You would best be advised to do any of this by text, because if you do it on SA, you're going to get banned. And they make it really hard to get another account even if you want to after you've lost your membership $. They fingerprint your IP address, photos, credit cards, MAC address, etc. And all that will have to be changed if you want another account.

**QuartJess** · 06-10-22 17:26

Originally Posted by Gatka [View Original Post]

Got 2 BBFS's appointments lined up for tomorrow, Saturday. Will post up reviews with links after as I'm 1 and done with 99% of these women.

One and done? I at least try to sample the goods twice before I move on to the next.

**GoneForGood97** · 06-10-22 17:25

Originally Posted by SanjuSams [View Original Post]

Here is another one: https://members.seeking.com/member/4...3-e403608b2936.

Straight to the point; she asked in the first 2 messages what's my PPM. Not happy with my 300 offer. She responded saying this. 'I'm so sorry but I'm seeking 800 ppm and 3-4 k a month. I'm sorry'.

I'm not saying you can always sucessfully negotiate an 800 PPM GPS to something reasonable, but my go to strat if they move that fast is to slow them down. Tell them it can depend on chemistry, and I'd need to know some details about what they enjoy before we talk arrangement details. Then ask what she enjoys sexually, get as specific as you can, and lean into whatever she tells you (remember, there's a reason women watch less porn than men but READ way more porn than men.) Get them turned on and liking you, then move into some common questions that can also be used as negotiation points: can you host? Covered or uncovered? Finish inside or somewhere else? Is she comfortable sending nudes?

At this point it's ok to hear no a few times (though clearly too many and you should just move on). Then ask her what her $ expectation is. When they reply back 800 PPM, use their previous "no" to move them to reasonable number. The bold way to do it (though this can backfire) is something like "Well 800 is steep, but especially if we have to use protection and you can't host. I want to ensure your comfortable, but since you can't host and we're using protection, what would be a more fair rate?

See if you can get her to "bid against herself" by providing an initial counteroffer (without you needing to "show your cards" regarding budget). I've had girls drop from 800 to 400 real quick. If they do, just reply "That's much more reasonable; Let's do 300 and we'll have an arrangement. When can we meet?" If they don't come down drastically or at all, throw your offer out and move on. Let some dumb sap who doesn't know how to negotiate keep her fed, while you find the next young hot thing who actually wants to see you, and isn't just looking to just max their payout.