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  1. #27124

    Reviews Have Very Little Effect

    Quote Originally Posted by RocketManP  [View Original Post]
    Well, yeah. Nothing you said contradicted what I said. Generating profit is the goal of any business.

    The question is how business is done. Is it done in a way to trick you and then strongarm you, or is the business transparent? Ethics are a thing in business. There are mechanisms in legal biz world to prevent consumer from being taken advantage of.

    And if someone thinks a company is unethical, it is well within their right to not only not give the company the money, but also to try to get others to not give them money. In our world, it is done through giving bad reviews / minis (as long as they're truthful) or shitting on the org in an active thread such as this one.

    My point was that people always say mongers lack control. The reviews are what mongers control fully. The reviews directly affect the biz money. The same orgs become hypocritical and practice double standards with good reviews and bad reviews. They encourage good reviews and then either threaten bl or request that the feedback doesn't go public with bad ones. As a result, many positive reviews might as well be called advertising, because they bring in money. I have no doubt many positive reviews are monetized in some way, shape, or form. Same goes for walking. If the girl looks 40 pounds heavier and 20 years older and you can't get it up for her, you walk and then post publicly on the forum. If your opinion is trusted, that will hit an org where it hurts - $. Good. That's the point. Every monger with just a tiny bit of cred has that power.
    "The reviews have very little effect. The long time providers i.e. 10 years or more may have 300 or 400 reviews. If they have 1,200 customers a year that indicates that reviews reflect less than 3% or less of their business. The superstars and UTRs really have as much business as they want and are quite rich (and also get expensive presents such as Rolex watches and Cartier jewelry from their regulars). The 90 day wonders just work as hard as they can and walk away with much more than they could make in a year in an ordinary job in Korea. There are some providers who are long termers and who are doing well by civilian standards but nothing like the Superstars. They probably would like to have better reviews - e.g. Nuri, Yoona. ".
    Last edited by BuildingGuy; 03-07-22 at 22:38. Reason: typos

  2. #27123
    Quote Originally Posted by LandOfKGirls  [View Original Post]
    Orgs have the freedom to unilaterally set rules with mongers and get the rewards or suffer the consequences of doing so.

    Mongers have the freedom to unilaterally choose whether to see the girls, pay the prices, patronize the orgs, etc. , etc. , etc. And get the rewards or suffer the consequences of doing so.

    If I feel compelled enough to walk from a session or post a bad review or comments then I won't hesitate to do so. I have my big boy pants on and will deal with whatever happens next.

    Reviews and other forums help spread the word both good and bad and do influence other mongers' decisions.

    These orgs, in my opinion, pay attention to reviews and are generally anonymous participants in most private chat rooms as well. They do see what's being said and oftentimes to react in a favorable way. We don't always see what the orgs are doing behind the scenes. They want their businesses to continue and generate profits.
    Well, yeah. Nothing you said contradicted what I said. Generating profit is the goal of any business.

    The question is how business is done. Is it done in a way to trick you and then strongarm you, or is the business transparent? Ethics are a thing in business. There are mechanisms in legal biz world to prevent consumer from being taken advantage of.

    And if someone thinks a company is unethical, it is well within their right to not only not give the company the money, but also to try to get others to not give them money. In our world, it is done through giving bad reviews / minis (as long as they're truthful) or shitting on the org in an active thread such as this one.

    My point was that people always say mongers lack control. The reviews are what mongers control fully. The reviews directly affect the biz money. The same orgs become hypocritical and practice double standards with good reviews and bad reviews. They encourage good reviews and then either threaten bl or request that the feedback doesn't go public with bad ones. As a result, many positive reviews might as well be called advertising, because they bring in money. I have no doubt many positive reviews are monetized in some way, shape, or form. Same goes for walking. If the girl looks 40 pounds heavier and 20 years older and you can't get it up for her, you walk and then post publicly on the forum. If your opinion is trusted, that will hit an org where it hurts - $. Good. That's the point. Every monger with just a tiny bit of cred has that power.

  3. #27122
    Quote Originally Posted by GoldDust58  [View Original Post]
    M Sarah is former gray / CG Aubrey (someone already mentioned this one).

    M Kara / CG Cara is former Victoria with gray / CG.

    CG Jiwoo / gray Jiu is from Norcal as Jun with Viola and Coco with Bunnygirls. Her face and body lower ratings but good service.

    CG Sammy from NorCal Lana at SweetAngels (someone might have already mentioned this).

    If you all recognize any rebrands or NorCal transplants please post. A few rough ones coming from SweetAngels in NorCal are mixed in down her I'm hearing. Do not want to walk into some of them. I want to say rebrand reporting is not always a bad thing and sometimes girls change because new org. I don't want it to be seen as always a negative thing.
    Always appreciate learning of rebrands, many thanks for your shining the light on these.

    Also, I also do not think rebranding is negative, not at all. Have seen girls who changed orgs and were given a new name and had fun with them. I've also followed some favs to new orgs and under new names when they just wanted a better location or situation. K-girl drama extends to roommate conflicts and I've known a couple k-girls who changed orgs just to get away from roommates.

    I also want to learn of rebrands so I can avoid girls I've seen and who I don't want to repeat with.

  4. #27121

    Nova at CG

    Anyone TTOFT on this one yet? I'm a bit weary when they describe 5'4 115 lb. Usually means fake pics and is fat.

    https://www.candygirlla.com/%EB%85%B8%EB%B0%94

  5. #27120

    Sora and Nicole

    I've been quiet because most of my sessions have been spent with Remi lately.

    Sora- new girl at lavixen / pkl crew. I got a text as soon as my monger buddy got out saying she was worth a dive so I made an afternoon time. Agree with him is that she is pretty. Not stunning but def a pretty face. Her build is between Remi and Berry / Cosmo. Not as rail thin as Remi but more fit body than Berry. Perky C MM and with grabable booty not flat. She has pretty good energy, first day excitement, and did all she could to please. I would compare her closest to Remi but more energetic and better BBBJ. Remi still my number one but Sora can def take up some of my time. Solid 8. 5 overall. Nice addition. I'm laughing because there are some characteristics of Hana in some of these girls. Their trainer needs a nice tip whoever she is.

    Nicole. Had not seen Nicole since her last her and before she went up to NorCal. She has def lost weight and is more spinner build now. She denies being skinner but she is def skinner. C tits look great on her figure and reminded me of Hana's body from the front but from the back she is missing Hana's ass. Spinner lovers will like Nicole. Huge energy, this girl can go. Rode CG for a while and then let me pick her up for some heated standing mish. Not my usually body style but her little body with good size tits made for a good time. Still a solid 8 overall. She is the spinner version of Allie in service.

  6. #27119

    Free Trade

    Quote Originally Posted by RocketManP  [View Original Post]
    "Any business" has bbb and yelp reviews and can easily be (and does get) sued for false advertisement.

    My initial response was to the claim that there aren't such mechanisms here. It's true, but it doesn't mean mongers don't get control and can't influence money flowing to pocket of offending orgs.

    I don't think it's fair to pick and choose when it's convenient to call it "any business" and then turn around and say "but it's illegal" to justify any other transgressions. Either its like any business and hence entitled to same consumer protection mechanisms, or it is not and its a wild wild west.

    If any business like a cake business offers me a stale or expired product on the shelf, I'm going to blast both the business and product. In most business I can return this product for a full refund if it was an expired product. And when people find out your cool festival is fyre festival, they going to be mad and will demand refunds. It's natural. Most businesses operate under assumption that customer is always right. Not that the seller is always right and the seller can do whatever it wants to do.

    Any business don't have constant threat of bl and encouraging appeasement, explicit suppression of negative feedback and so forth.
    Orgs have the freedom to unilaterally set rules with mongers and get the rewards or suffer the consequences of doing so.

    Mongers have the freedom to unilaterally choose whether to see the girls, pay the prices, patronize the orgs, etc. , etc. , etc. And get the rewards or suffer the consequences of doing so.

    If I feel compelled enough to walk from a session or post a bad review or comments then I won't hesitate to do so. I have my big boy pants on and will deal with whatever happens next.

    Reviews and other forums help spread the word both good and bad and do influence other mongers' decisions.

    These orgs, in my opinion, pay attention to reviews and are generally anonymous participants in most private chat rooms as well. They do see what's being said and oftentimes to react in a favorable way. We don't always see what the orgs are doing behind the scenes. They want their businesses to continue and generate profits.

  7. #27118
    Quote Originally Posted by MistRum  [View Original Post]
    Anyone who's seen Hannie / Cosmos together or separately. Do they rim? Looking for a great duos session with rimming.
    Cosmo does, Hannie does not.

  8. #27117
    Quote Originally Posted by Member#2210  [View Original Post]
    Miya's house is mainly a C-org house. I've frequented Miya's house and many other C-org houses a lot over the years and still do. Lately it's a lot more miss than hit with the Chinese girls. For the same price, the service is not comparable to the K-girl, but it's good if you are feeling horny and just want a quick fuck for cheap. Sometimes you do get a good one and being a repeat customer will get you GFE service.

    As for the 2 Russian girls there, Ada and Darya, they might be Russian or Ukraine girls. The boss doesn't care to distinguish between the 2 countries (well, there might not be a need to). I've tried several Eastern European girls (Romania, Ukraine, maybe Russian) and so far service is non-existent, just straight fuck and no passion (altho their bodies look great). If u want to try, book for the lowest price/service tier first to see how the girl is like.
    Miya's house is not cheap at 5 bills for GFE. Better off sticking with the K-org. If you do get a girl for under 5 it is usually a Kgirl. Which is ironic considering the number of Chinese individuals we have in LA.

    Of course YMMV.

  9. #27116
    Quote Originally Posted by Cabezon8  [View Original Post]
    Appreciate your knowledge. I'll stick with girls for now as the booker refuse to let me make an appointment.
    The C-orgs have been careful lately and won't accept new customers unless you have a referral. Also, they prefer that you are Asian.

  10. #27115
    Quote Originally Posted by Toungsten  [View Original Post]
    It's like any business. They can choose not to serve you for whatever reason they have and if you don't' want to be banned you have to go by their rules. The choice is yours and so are the repercussions.
    "Any business" has bbb and yelp reviews and can easily be (and does get) sued for false advertisement.

    My initial response was to the claim that there aren't such mechanisms here. It's true, but it doesn't mean mongers don't get control and can't influence money flowing to pocket of offending orgs.

    I don't think it's fair to pick and choose when it's convenient to call it "any business" and then turn around and say "but it's illegal" to justify any other transgressions. Either its like any business and hence entitled to same consumer protection mechanisms, or it is not and its a wild wild west.

    If any business like a cake business offers me a stale or expired product on the shelf, I'm going to blast both the business and product. In most business I can return this product for a full refund if it was an expired product. And when people find out your cool festival is fyre festival, they going to be mad and will demand refunds. It's natural. Most businesses operate under assumption that customer is always right. Not that the seller is always right and the seller can do whatever it wants to do.

    Any business don't have constant threat of bl and encouraging appeasement, explicit suppression of negative feedback and so forth.

  11. #27114
    Quote Originally Posted by GoldDust58  [View Original Post]
    M Sarah is former gray / CG Aubrey (someone already mentioned this one).

    M Kara / CG Cara is former Victoria with gray / CG.

    CG Jiwoo / gray Jiu is from Norcal as Jun with Viola and Coco with Bunnygirls. Her face and body lower ratings but good service.

    CG Sammy from NorCal Lana at SweetAngels (someone might have already mentioned this).

    If you all recognize any rebrands or NorCal transplants please post. A few rough ones coming from SweetAngels in NorCal are mixed in down her I'm hearing. Do not want to walk into some of them. I want to say rebrand reporting is not always a bad thing and sometimes girls change because new org. I dont want it to be seen as always a negative thing.
    Right: CG Trixie is Nixie from BCG (Bunnygirls): she is a good one (not a negative).

  12. #27113

    Rebrand reports

    M Sarah is former gray / CG Aubrey (someone already mentioned this one).

    M Kara / CG Cara is former Victoria with gray / CG.

    CG Jiwoo / gray Jiu is from Norcal as Jun with Viola and Coco with Bunnygirls. Her face and body lower ratings but good service.

    CG Sammy from NorCal Lana at SweetAngels (someone might have already mentioned this).

    If you all recognize any rebrands or NorCal transplants please post. A few rough ones coming from SweetAngels in NorCal are mixed in down her I'm hearing. Do not want to walk into some of them. I want to say rebrand reporting is not always a bad thing and sometimes girls change because new org. I don’t want it to be seen as always a negative thing.

  13. #27112

    New girl with M

    Jiwoo in MW. Starts today.
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  14. #27111
    Senior Member


    Posts: 230

    Sua great value

    Visit on time, she was prompt to let me in at appt time. Door opens, she was older than pictures and looks about average kgirl. Used bathroom to pee, came back, she pulls my jogging pants down and went on her knees to give a satisfying sloppy BBBJ. I picked her up with her arm around my neck as I banged her standing up, legs starting to get tired, I dropped her on the bed and proceeded to mish, pounded her hard, unloaded cip. She wiped herself with tissues and proceeded to give me another BBBJ, then went in for cg, she bounced hard on me, unloaded another cip. She wiped off again, the gave HJ and BBBJ with dt, made me blow my load cim. I spent five minutes over the hour total and it was great, considering Shower was skipped before action started. Will repeat for service wise.

  15. #27110
    Quote Originally Posted by IAmGib1  [View Original Post]
    So Kingsfoil; are you saying she has an ass so "Sweet" you want to eat it, or just any willing kgirl ass will do?

    Not judging just trying to understand.
    Most Asian ass is just boring and flat (not complaining that's just how it is), and the enhanced ones are okay. Hers is as good as it can be that still looks natural for an asian girl. Medium sized, fit, round, and pops (because she never takes off her heels and knows to arch).

    As for their willingness to let you eat it, that's more important. These girls are weird in that they might do anything to you (maybe because they're used to what they consider to be their job), but they don't like it when you do the same to them (in this case referring to rimming). But she was more than willing to accept, and even helped spread it by at one point putting one leg up on the bed while the other was still on the floor.

    I hear a lot of times people saying in this forum, "Like a Latina." This is never true. It's about as true as when they say "22 years old." But I have found that "Latina booty" usually means, "Hey guys, this girl's ass is actually not flat!

    Hope that clarifies.

    (And then learn Portuguese and go to Brazil, open google maps and type in "massagens" then check out which locations have websites with girls in bikinis or less and whatsapp numbers. If you visit SP or Rio, I can be more specific).

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