"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[MikeoDamerika]

Hey guys,

I'll be in Atlanta this week and would love to meet with some girls.

I normally play in Raleigh and Charlotte and would be happy to exchange fun contacts if anyone is interested! Let me know. .

Mike.

[GoneForGood97]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...4-a395ceb324b3

Talking to this one a couple of days and she seemed cool. Quickly moved over to messaging on Signal, and send me some additional nude pics. We were talking about getting together and I asked her what she usually gets, and she said 4. 5 to 7. 5. That is out of my price range and I said I usually do 2. 5 to 3. She was polite, but pretty much crickets after that. She lost all her enthusiasm. That's fine, and she's not really my type anyway....3. 0 would have already been more than was it was worth, but just passing along the info.

God I hope no one is dumb enough to pay her those rates, and she's just throwing out numbers because that what tiktok or twitter told her she could get. Like maybe, and it's a big maybe, if you're a 18-25 year old super hottie, MAYBE you can ask those rates. But a 30+ built like an NFL linebacker? No, nu-uh, no way, no how.

[GoneForGood97]

The main thing he's doing "wrong" is using a VPN and anonymous email addresses. Don't get me wrong, that's not a criticism, but from their perspective that's 2 strikes right off the bat. SA has a huge problem with foreign scammers convincing girls to send them bank account info (ostensibly so they can make a deposit in their accounts, but of course they drain the accounts instead). Those scammers are using the same VPN services and anonymous email addresses, so you can be sure that SA flags anyone using an IP address associated with a VPN service, just the same as they do someone who uses a protonmail address.

As for the gmail approach, I've been using the same Gmail account for years and have signed up for SA multiple times using different variations of that address using the plus sign. Never had a problem.

If it were me and I was having problems creating an account, I would take a laptop to a business with free wifi. Use that connection to create my account using a gmail address and purchase my subscription. I wouldn't attempt to use the VPN until after the premium subscription was successfully purchased. I would use the same location to renew my subscription as well. Good luck!

FWIW I use both a protonmail and a VPN, and I haven't had any issues with the site. But I also never talk $ or details other than standard pleasantries on the site. As soon as someone wants to talk about that stuff, or if I'm ready to talk about that, I immediately ask them if we can talk on text or snap, and any conversation regarding $, requests for pics / nudes or details on what they like sexually are done over text, never the site.

[Peter Johnson]

If it were me and I was having problems creating an account, I would take a laptop to a business with free wifi. Use that connection to create my account using a gmail address and purchase my subscription. I wouldn't attempt to use the VPN until after the premium subscription was successfully purchased. I would use the same location to renew my subscription as well. Good luck!

Good advice and that's basically what I finally had to do. I didn't think about making sure I renew the same way, but that is smart. I will go back over to McDonalds and do that in a few weeks.

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...4-a395ceb324b3

Talking to this one a couple of days and she seemed cool. Quickly moved over to messaging on Signal, and send me some additional nude pics. We were talking about getting together and I asked her what she usually gets, and she said 4. 5 to 7. 5. That is out of my price range and I said I usually do 2. 5 to 3. She was polite, but pretty much crickets after that. She lost all her enthusiasm. That's fine, and she's not really my type anyway....3. 0 would have already been more than was it was worth, but just passing along the info.

[Peter Johnson]

I have to ask bro, what are you doing to get kicked? I've had one profile for several years with no issues. Are you talking money and activities on the site? Or being rude? I'm always nice, even if the chic is a *****, I just block and move on. And I never discuss details on the site. I do general chat for a while, find out if they are looking for in person romantic meets, then move to text. Its worked fine for me.

That's a good question, but I only got kicked off there one time. The problem is that I was just never able to get back on. But not sure why I got kicked off. Someone could have reported me for something, or maybe I wasn't quite careful enough and said "PPM" or who knows. It was 3 years ago that I got kicked off, so I just don't know exactly what it was.

[JoyDrop]

I have to ask bro, what are you doing to get kicked?

The main thing he's doing "wrong" is using a VPN and anonymous email addresses. Don't get me wrong, that's not a criticism, but from their perspective that's 2 strikes right off the bat. SA has a huge problem with foreign scammers convincing girls to send them bank account info (ostensibly so they can make a deposit in their accounts, but of course they drain the accounts instead). Those scammers are using the same VPN services and anonymous email addresses, so you can be sure that SA flags anyone using an IP address associated with a VPN service, just the same as they do someone who uses a protonmail address.

As for the gmail approach, I've been using the same Gmail account for years and have signed up for SA multiple times using different variations of that address using the plus sign. Never had a problem.

If it were me and I was having problems creating an account, I would take a laptop to a business with free wifi. Use that connection to create my account using a gmail address and purchase my subscription. I wouldn't attempt to use the VPN until after the premium subscription was successfully purchased. I would use the same location to renew my subscription as well. Good luck!

[2me4Looking2]

I tried some more and 5 out of 6 of the emails I tried to use led to the account being insta-suspended. Again, before I even set up a password or anything. Or maybe it was the VPN, but who knows. That is absurd.

It used to be difficult to make new gmails, because they always asked for a phone number to verify the acct before they would even set it up. It didn't do that the last couple of times though, so perhaps should try to make a few of those. But never use gmail for anything important, because they will randomly lock you out of the account, and even if you have correct password and recovery email, they won't let you back in. They ask you Secret Question that you never even set the answers to. I hate those fuckers and I probably have 30 old gmail accounts that I can't get back into.

Plus Google just bends over backwards to share customer data with the US gov't. At least it's a little more complicated to get it from protonmail. And I don't expect to have anything incriminating in there, but it doesn't matter. Everything can be used against you, if they want.

Ok end of rant, and again my apologies for posting so much in this thread lately. If I don't get banned again from SA, I will have some good intel to share at some point sooon. I have my war chest full and ready to at least go with 250 or 300 for anyone who is decent, until I get my SD groove back.

I'm betting the VPN is part of the problem. It's very trivial for them to tell if you are on a VPN and if you do some reading on VPN's, you may realize they aren't really giving you the security you think they are. A VPN is only going to come into play if LE is looking for you and most VPN's are just going to be an inconvenience for the feds. Your activity is still being tracked, but rather than your ISP, it's your VPN provider.

[2me4Looking2]

I have to ask bro, what are you doing to get kicked? I've had one profile for several years with no issues. Are you talking money and activities on the site? Or being rude? I'm always nice, even if the chic is a *****, I just block and move on. And I never discuss details on the site. I do general chat for a while, find out if they are looking for in person romantic meets, then move to text. Its worked fine for me.

I would also add that you should avoid reporting girls. The one time I got my account suspended was after reporting several and I did some reading on their FAQ and they state that when you report someone they will also read your messages when investigating. Reporting will just bring more scrutiny on you so I stopped doing it even when they are blatantly breaking the TOS. I won't discuss money and never even hint at PPM on there. I keep things very general when communicating on the site and if someone won't move off the site to talk then cut your losses and move on.

[SoonerFan72]

I tried some more and 5 out of 6 of the emails I tried to use led to the account being insta-suspended. Again, before I even set up a password or anything. Or maybe it was the VPN, but who knows. That is absurd.

It used to be difficult to make new gmails, because they always asked for a phone number to verify the acct before they would even set it up. It didn't do that the last couple of times though, so perhaps should try to make a few of those. But never use gmail for anything important, because they will randomly lock you out of the account, and even if you have correct password and recovery email, they won't let you back in. They ask you Secret Question that you never even set the answers to. I hate those fuckers and I probably have 30 old gmail accounts that I can't get back into.

Plus Google just bends over backwards to share customer data with the US gov't. At least it's a little more complicated to get it from protonmail. And I don't expect to have anything incriminating in there, but it doesn't matter. Everything can be used against you, if they want.

Ok end of rant, and again my apologies for posting so much in this thread lately. If I don't get banned again from SA, I will have some good intel to share at some point sooon. I have my war chest full and ready to at least go with 250 or 300 for anyone who is decent, until I get my SD groove back.

I have to ask bro, what are you doing to get kicked? I've had one profile for several years with no issues. Are you talking money and activities on the site? Or being rude? I'm always nice, even if the chic is a *****, I just block and move on. And I never discuss details on the site. I do general chat for a while, find out if they are looking for in person romantic meets, then move to text. Its worked fine for me.

[Peter Johnson]

One tip for gmail is that you don't have to create new accounts for it. You can simply add periods in the e-mail address and it will still go to you.

Example: johnsmith@gmail.com might be what you use. John.smith@gmail.com will go to the same mailbox. j.o.h.n.s.m.i.t.h@gmail.com will go to it as well. Johnsmith+label@gmail.com will also go to it, and you could setup a rule for the label if you wanted. Just got to have the + sign and a word after it.

That is a good tip, although I would worry that SA would have a workaround to catch that though. But if it did, big deal and you just use a different one. It is worth a shot, without having ot make so many new email acct, which can be difficult and time consuming.

[MariettaJoe]

I tried some more and 5 out of 6 of the emails I tried to use led to the account being insta-suspended. Again, before I even set up a password or anything. Or maybe it was the VPN, but who knows. That is absurd.

It used to be difficult to make new gmails, because they always asked for a phone number to verify the acct before they would even set it up. It didn't do that the last couple of times though, so perhaps should try to make a few of those. But never use gmail for anything important, because they will randomly lock you out of the account, and even if you have correct password and recovery email, they won't let you back in. They ask you Secret Question that you never even set the answers to. I hate those fuckers and I probably have 30 old gmail accounts that I can't get back into.

Plus Google just bends over backwards to share customer data with the US gov't. At least it's a little more complicated to get it from protonmail. And I don't expect to have anything incriminating in there, but it doesn't matter. Everything can be used against you, if they want.

Ok end of rant, and again my apologies for posting so much in this thread lately. If I don't get banned again from SA, I will have some good intel to share at some point sooon. I have my war chest full and ready to at least go with 250 or 300 for anyone who is decent, until I get my SD groove back.

One tip for gmail is that you don't have to create new accounts for it. You can simply add periods in the e-mail address and it will still go to you.

Example: johnsmith@gmail.com might be what you use. John.smith@gmail.com will go to the same mailbox. j.o.h.n.s.m.i.t.h@gmail.com will go to it as well. Johnsmith+label@gmail.com will also go to it, and you could setup a rule for the label if you wanted. Just got to have the + sign and a word after it.

[Peter Johnson]

I tried some more and 5 out of 6 of the emails I tried to use led to the account being insta-suspended. Again, before I even set up a password or anything. Or maybe it was the VPN, but who knows. That is absurd.

It used to be difficult to make new gmails, because they always asked for a phone number to verify the acct before they would even set it up. It didn't do that the last couple of times though, so perhaps should try to make a few of those. But never use gmail for anything important, because they will randomly lock you out of the account, and even if you have correct password and recovery email, they won't let you back in. They ask you Secret Question that you never even set the answers to. I hate those fuckers and I probably have 30 old gmail accounts that I can't get back into.

Plus Google just bends over backwards to share customer data with the US gov't. At least it's a little more complicated to get it from protonmail. And I don't expect to have anything incriminating in there, but it doesn't matter. Everything can be used against you, if they want.

Ok end of rant, and again my apologies for posting so much in this thread lately. If I don't get banned again from SA, I will have some good intel to share at some point sooon. I have my war chest full and ready to at least go with 250 or 300 for anyone who is decent, until I get my SD groove back.

[Peter Johnson]

I just tried to create a backup SA account or two, so if mine gets suspended, I have one ready to go, and possibly with a discount offer in it.

However, the first three emails I tried to register with....no payment, just signing up on the site.....the first three caused my account to be instantly suspended. I didn't even get to the step to set a password or anything. That is just insane. And I know these emails were never used on the site before. Absolutely not.

I changed the IP and cleared my cookies again and again, and finally got the fourth one to go through. I'm going to try to do a couple more, but what a hassle. I don't really like using the same email for more than one or two things, but I have about 200 protonmail ones I've made over the years, so will try a few more of those I guess.

[Peter Johnson]

Someone in the forums recommended the MySudo app, which is like Google Voice or Text Now. I tried it, but it seems limited and only lets you do a limited number of texts until you subscribe. And then I subscribed, and it still only let me have a limited number. I don't mind paying for it, but I want unlimited messaging. It does allow you do set up different profiles with different numbers. Has anyone else used it much? I still don't know if it it's the best solution for me.

Ideally I prefer to use the Session app, but a lot of the women are freaked out by actually having a private conversation. I don't like SMS though. But with Session you don't have to use your phone #. I'm fine with insisting they use it, but will lose a few that way, and I also don't want to get reported on SA for "suspicious behavior", which is really just "non retard behavior", imo.

If anyone wants to test out Session and share any extra intel, hit me up at: 05c3eff3676395aed6399485f4b3c7776293a996aea3d552e26613e20357a1db38

That's all you need. It doesn't work as smoothly as Signal, but I think it's based on that code, so very similar. You can do disappearing messages. I usually use one week, but again, it could freak some women out who would rather have a paper trail of all your communications.