"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[GoneForGood97]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...4-a395ceb324b3

Talking to this one a couple of days and she seemed cool. Quickly moved over to messaging on Signal, and send me some additional nude pics. We were talking about getting together and I asked her what she usually gets, and she said 4. 5 to 7. 5. That is out of my price range and I said I usually do 2. 5 to 3. She was polite, but pretty much crickets after that. She lost all her enthusiasm. That's fine, and she's not really my type anyway....3. 0 would have already been more than was it was worth, but just passing along the info.

God I hope no one is dumb enough to pay her those rates, and she's just throwing out numbers because that what tiktok or twitter told her she could get. Like maybe, and it's a big maybe, if you're a 18-25 year old super hottie, MAYBE you can ask those rates. But a 30+ built like an NFL linebacker? No, nu-uh, no way, no how.

[GoneForGood97]

The main thing he's doing "wrong" is using a VPN and anonymous email addresses. Don't get me wrong, that's not a criticism, but from their perspective that's 2 strikes right off the bat. SA has a huge problem with foreign scammers convincing girls to send them bank account info (ostensibly so they can make a deposit in their accounts, but of course they drain the accounts instead). Those scammers are using the same VPN services and anonymous email addresses, so you can be sure that SA flags anyone using an IP address associated with a VPN service, just the same as they do someone who uses a protonmail address.

As for the gmail approach, I've been using the same Gmail account for years and have signed up for SA multiple times using different variations of that address using the plus sign. Never had a problem.

If it were me and I was having problems creating an account, I would take a laptop to a business with free wifi. Use that connection to create my account using a gmail address and purchase my subscription. I wouldn't attempt to use the VPN until after the premium subscription was successfully purchased. I would use the same location to renew my subscription as well. Good luck!

FWIW I use both a protonmail and a VPN, and I haven't had any issues with the site. But I also never talk $ or details other than standard pleasantries on the site. As soon as someone wants to talk about that stuff, or if I'm ready to talk about that, I immediately ask them if we can talk on text or snap, and any conversation regarding $, requests for pics / nudes or details on what they like sexually are done over text, never the site.

[Peter Johnson]

If it were me and I was having problems creating an account, I would take a laptop to a business with free wifi. Use that connection to create my account using a gmail address and purchase my subscription. I wouldn't attempt to use the VPN until after the premium subscription was successfully purchased. I would use the same location to renew my subscription as well. Good luck!

Good advice and that's basically what I finally had to do. I didn't think about making sure I renew the same way, but that is smart. I will go back over to McDonalds and do that in a few weeks.

[Peter Johnson]

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...4-a395ceb324b3

Talking to this one a couple of days and she seemed cool. Quickly moved over to messaging on Signal, and send me some additional nude pics. We were talking about getting together and I asked her what she usually gets, and she said 4. 5 to 7. 5. That is out of my price range and I said I usually do 2. 5 to 3. She was polite, but pretty much crickets after that. She lost all her enthusiasm. That's fine, and she's not really my type anyway....3. 0 would have already been more than was it was worth, but just passing along the info.

[Peter Johnson]

I have to ask bro, what are you doing to get kicked? I've had one profile for several years with no issues. Are you talking money and activities on the site? Or being rude? I'm always nice, even if the chic is a *****, I just block and move on. And I never discuss details on the site. I do general chat for a while, find out if they are looking for in person romantic meets, then move to text. Its worked fine for me.

That's a good question, but I only got kicked off there one time. The problem is that I was just never able to get back on. But not sure why I got kicked off. Someone could have reported me for something, or maybe I wasn't quite careful enough and said "PPM" or who knows. It was 3 years ago that I got kicked off, so I just don't know exactly what it was.

[JoyDrop]

I have to ask bro, what are you doing to get kicked?

The main thing he's doing "wrong" is using a VPN and anonymous email addresses. Don't get me wrong, that's not a criticism, but from their perspective that's 2 strikes right off the bat. SA has a huge problem with foreign scammers convincing girls to send them bank account info (ostensibly so they can make a deposit in their accounts, but of course they drain the accounts instead). Those scammers are using the same VPN services and anonymous email addresses, so you can be sure that SA flags anyone using an IP address associated with a VPN service, just the same as they do someone who uses a protonmail address.

As for the gmail approach, I've been using the same Gmail account for years and have signed up for SA multiple times using different variations of that address using the plus sign. Never had a problem.

If it were me and I was having problems creating an account, I would take a laptop to a business with free wifi. Use that connection to create my account using a gmail address and purchase my subscription. I wouldn't attempt to use the VPN until after the premium subscription was successfully purchased. I would use the same location to renew my subscription as well. Good luck!

[2me4Looking2]

I tried some more and 5 out of 6 of the emails I tried to use led to the account being insta-suspended. Again, before I even set up a password or anything. Or maybe it was the VPN, but who knows. That is absurd.

It used to be difficult to make new gmails, because they always asked for a phone number to verify the acct before they would even set it up. It didn't do that the last couple of times though, so perhaps should try to make a few of those. But never use gmail for anything important, because they will randomly lock you out of the account, and even if you have correct password and recovery email, they won't let you back in. They ask you Secret Question that you never even set the answers to. I hate those fuckers and I probably have 30 old gmail accounts that I can't get back into.

Plus Google just bends over backwards to share customer data with the US gov't. At least it's a little more complicated to get it from protonmail. And I don't expect to have anything incriminating in there, but it doesn't matter. Everything can be used against you, if they want.

Ok end of rant, and again my apologies for posting so much in this thread lately. If I don't get banned again from SA, I will have some good intel to share at some point sooon. I have my war chest full and ready to at least go with 250 or 300 for anyone who is decent, until I get my SD groove back.

I'm betting the VPN is part of the problem. It's very trivial for them to tell if you are on a VPN and if you do some reading on VPN's, you may realize they aren't really giving you the security you think they are. A VPN is only going to come into play if LE is looking for you and most VPN's are just going to be an inconvenience for the feds. Your activity is still being tracked, but rather than your ISP, it's your VPN provider.

[2me4Looking2]

I have to ask bro, what are you doing to get kicked? I've had one profile for several years with no issues. Are you talking money and activities on the site? Or being rude? I'm always nice, even if the chic is a *****, I just block and move on. And I never discuss details on the site. I do general chat for a while, find out if they are looking for in person romantic meets, then move to text. Its worked fine for me.

I would also add that you should avoid reporting girls. The one time I got my account suspended was after reporting several and I did some reading on their FAQ and they state that when you report someone they will also read your messages when investigating. Reporting will just bring more scrutiny on you so I stopped doing it even when they are blatantly breaking the TOS. I won't discuss money and never even hint at PPM on there. I keep things very general when communicating on the site and if someone won't move off the site to talk then cut your losses and move on.

[SoonerFan72]

I tried some more and 5 out of 6 of the emails I tried to use led to the account being insta-suspended. Again, before I even set up a password or anything. Or maybe it was the VPN, but who knows. That is absurd.

It used to be difficult to make new gmails, because they always asked for a phone number to verify the acct before they would even set it up. It didn't do that the last couple of times though, so perhaps should try to make a few of those. But never use gmail for anything important, because they will randomly lock you out of the account, and even if you have correct password and recovery email, they won't let you back in. They ask you Secret Question that you never even set the answers to. I hate those fuckers and I probably have 30 old gmail accounts that I can't get back into.

Plus Google just bends over backwards to share customer data with the US gov't. At least it's a little more complicated to get it from protonmail. And I don't expect to have anything incriminating in there, but it doesn't matter. Everything can be used against you, if they want.

Ok end of rant, and again my apologies for posting so much in this thread lately. If I don't get banned again from SA, I will have some good intel to share at some point sooon. I have my war chest full and ready to at least go with 250 or 300 for anyone who is decent, until I get my SD groove back.

I have to ask bro, what are you doing to get kicked? I've had one profile for several years with no issues. Are you talking money and activities on the site? Or being rude? I'm always nice, even if the chic is a *****, I just block and move on. And I never discuss details on the site. I do general chat for a while, find out if they are looking for in person romantic meets, then move to text. Its worked fine for me.

[Peter Johnson]

One tip for gmail is that you don't have to create new accounts for it. You can simply add periods in the e-mail address and it will still go to you.

Example: johnsmith@gmail.com might be what you use. John.smith@gmail.com will go to the same mailbox. j.o.h.n.s.m.i.t.h@gmail.com will go to it as well. Johnsmith+label@gmail.com will also go to it, and you could setup a rule for the label if you wanted. Just got to have the + sign and a word after it.

That is a good tip, although I would worry that SA would have a workaround to catch that though. But if it did, big deal and you just use a different one. It is worth a shot, without having ot make so many new email acct, which can be difficult and time consuming.

[MariettaJoe]

I tried some more and 5 out of 6 of the emails I tried to use led to the account being insta-suspended. Again, before I even set up a password or anything. Or maybe it was the VPN, but who knows. That is absurd.

It used to be difficult to make new gmails, because they always asked for a phone number to verify the acct before they would even set it up. It didn't do that the last couple of times though, so perhaps should try to make a few of those. But never use gmail for anything important, because they will randomly lock you out of the account, and even if you have correct password and recovery email, they won't let you back in. They ask you Secret Question that you never even set the answers to. I hate those fuckers and I probably have 30 old gmail accounts that I can't get back into.

Plus Google just bends over backwards to share customer data with the US gov't. At least it's a little more complicated to get it from protonmail. And I don't expect to have anything incriminating in there, but it doesn't matter. Everything can be used against you, if they want.

Ok end of rant, and again my apologies for posting so much in this thread lately. If I don't get banned again from SA, I will have some good intel to share at some point sooon. I have my war chest full and ready to at least go with 250 or 300 for anyone who is decent, until I get my SD groove back.

One tip for gmail is that you don't have to create new accounts for it. You can simply add periods in the e-mail address and it will still go to you.

Example: johnsmith@gmail.com might be what you use. John.smith@gmail.com will go to the same mailbox. j.o.h.n.s.m.i.t.h@gmail.com will go to it as well. Johnsmith+label@gmail.com will also go to it, and you could setup a rule for the label if you wanted. Just got to have the + sign and a word after it.

[Peter Johnson]

I tried some more and 5 out of 6 of the emails I tried to use led to the account being insta-suspended. Again, before I even set up a password or anything. Or maybe it was the VPN, but who knows. That is absurd.

It used to be difficult to make new gmails, because they always asked for a phone number to verify the acct before they would even set it up. It didn't do that the last couple of times though, so perhaps should try to make a few of those. But never use gmail for anything important, because they will randomly lock you out of the account, and even if you have correct password and recovery email, they won't let you back in. They ask you Secret Question that you never even set the answers to. I hate those fuckers and I probably have 30 old gmail accounts that I can't get back into.

Plus Google just bends over backwards to share customer data with the US gov't. At least it's a little more complicated to get it from protonmail. And I don't expect to have anything incriminating in there, but it doesn't matter. Everything can be used against you, if they want.

Ok end of rant, and again my apologies for posting so much in this thread lately. If I don't get banned again from SA, I will have some good intel to share at some point sooon. I have my war chest full and ready to at least go with 250 or 300 for anyone who is decent, until I get my SD groove back.

[Peter Johnson]

I just tried to create a backup SA account or two, so if mine gets suspended, I have one ready to go, and possibly with a discount offer in it.

However, the first three emails I tried to register with....no payment, just signing up on the site.....the first three caused my account to be instantly suspended. I didn't even get to the step to set a password or anything. That is just insane. And I know these emails were never used on the site before. Absolutely not.

I changed the IP and cleared my cookies again and again, and finally got the fourth one to go through. I'm going to try to do a couple more, but what a hassle. I don't really like using the same email for more than one or two things, but I have about 200 protonmail ones I've made over the years, so will try a few more of those I guess.

[Peter Johnson]

Someone in the forums recommended the MySudo app, which is like Google Voice or Text Now. I tried it, but it seems limited and only lets you do a limited number of texts until you subscribe. And then I subscribed, and it still only let me have a limited number. I don't mind paying for it, but I want unlimited messaging. It does allow you do set up different profiles with different numbers. Has anyone else used it much? I still don't know if it it's the best solution for me.

Ideally I prefer to use the Session app, but a lot of the women are freaked out by actually having a private conversation. I don't like SMS though. But with Session you don't have to use your phone #. I'm fine with insisting they use it, but will lose a few that way, and I also don't want to get reported on SA for "suspicious behavior", which is really just "non retard behavior", imo.

If anyone wants to test out Session and share any extra intel, hit me up at: 05c3eff3676395aed6399485f4b3c7776293a996aea3d552e26613e20357a1db38

That's all you need. It doesn't work as smoothly as Signal, but I think it's based on that code, so very similar. You can do disappearing messages. I usually use one week, but again, it could freak some women out who would rather have a paper trail of all your communications.

[Johnny Mapalo]

https://members.seeking.com/member/5...5-03ea78ecc925

I almost banged the top off this chic a little over a month ago. This "Sugar Baby" messaged me out of the blue 2 months ago. I immediately noticed that she was wearing stripper wear in her pics and knew that she was the typical stripper. Rats! I hate strippers! I don't know why these damn strippers keep messaging me on that site, but whatever.

I replied back to her and ask her what she wanted. She said that she was looking for at least $400 a week (yeah right) and I could get anything that I wanted. Sure. Typical stripper balogney. I asked her which club did she work at (thinking Diamond club as I've been messaged by a shit load of those girls in the past) and she told me "Platinum" on Piedmont. That's a new one for a change.

I've never been messaged by a stripper at that club before. Well, she went on to tell me that she needed mentorship in life and finance, as she's been on her own since 15. You know, I don't usually believe a strippers diary, but whatever. We were supposed to hook up a few times, but things feel through on my end. We were finally able to connect though in the middle of last month, as I got me a room in Buckhead.

She claimed that she lived in Buckhead as well. A full time stripper living in Buckhead. Don't they all. She claimed that her only job was stripping too. Oh boy. Anyways, I booked the room and sent her over the address via text. She text me back asking me if I was going to pick her up too. WTF! Why the hell did you wait until the day of to tell me this shit. Smdh.

I told her I would see about picking her up, then she said that she was going to call for a taxi. A taxi? Who uses those nowadays? I thought it was just Uber and Lyft now? I waited about a good 15 minutes, as she said that she was about to take a shower, before texting her for more info.

She text me back 15 later telling me that they said no taxis were in her area at the moment and it would be another 45 minutes for a taxi to get there. Smfh. I see the taxis are still keeping up with the bullshit. They need to be ran out of business for good!! After a good 30 minutes of back and forth, I agreed to pick her up. Oh boy.

She text me the address to her residence and it was only 7 minutes away from the hotel that I was staying in. Man, this bish could have walked to my hotel as much as we were going back and forth. Smh. Anyways, I went for her and arrived at an older condominium in Buckhead right on Peachtree Road. I text her and she came down in a pink tight cotton shorts and top with obviously nothing underneath.

I noticed that her face looked different though. Hmm. She hopped into my car and we greeted each other as I then drove back to my hotel. We had casual conversation along the way as she was nice and friendly as I stripper should be. As we were driving back to the telly, I asked about her stripper job and she told me she rarely works there and only goes when she needs to. Hmm.

Well, how are your bills getting paid then if stripping is supposedly your only job. Hmm. The lies are starting to unwrap themselves. Smh. I didn't mention anything else about her stripping nonsense after that. These chic's lie all the damn time. I got back to the hotel and we both walked back to the hotel room. I was checking her out the whole time as she is tall and slim.

I'd list her as "thin". She's 5'11 and about 135 lbs soaking wet. Her face was kinda long and slightly Down Syndromes' looking. LOL. Nah, it wasn't that bad, but her face didn't look like what it does in the pics. She seems to be in her mid 20's too. She's very talkative as well. We reached inside of my lush palace where my massage table was staged in the middle of the room.

We negotiated on $200 for a full hour nude massage with happy ending, but since she kept saying that she never gave a massage before, we switched it to nude dancing with happy ending for the hour. We conversed for a bit more once inside the room, before I handed her the donation, which she quickly stuffed into her purse without counting.

I guess she could tell that it was the full $200 by touch? She then started stripping before me as I sat in a chair with t shirt and basketball shorts on. She began to play some music on her phone and started her dance. Her body looked ok, but not good enough for prime time dancing if you ask me. Her breastess'ess were B cups and looked pretty average.

Her stomach was flat with no stretch marks or any signs of childbirth and her ass, it was a thin ass. It had a little bit of meat on it and was pushed out some with light cellulite at the bottom of it. She didin't have a tight body like in the pics as her ass was flatter than in her pics. Hmm. It's still her in the pics though, I think.

Anyways, she started her dance routine as she's got some good rhythm there. She was bending over my massage table and showing me everything she had to eat for the day. LOL. I did a quick sniff test and she was smelling kinda frowsy back there. Err. Kinda smelled like she'd been working all day at the strip club. Hmm.

I thought she said she took a shower before she came to see me. Right! Or maybe that stripper smell stays on her forever? Who knows. She kept dancing for a good 10 minutes before she started getting hot and bothered. I guess. She then told me to stand up and take off my shorts. I did just that and stood before her in my boxers and t shirt.

She then grabbed my boxers and pulled it all the way down. Oh baby! She told me to sit down, as she kneeled down before me and started the BB suckie. That was pretty nice of her. She started BB suckie senior as I just let her do her thing. After 2 minutes of suckie, I asked her if she wanted to bend over on the massage table. She asked, "That's what you want" and I said, "Sure".

She then bends over bare ass and puss on my massage table and awaited my arrival. I stood up behind her and busted a nut right into my hands. Smdh. Stupid fucking cock! I wasn't too excited though about sticking my bare cock into her frowsy slot. Eeek. She stayed bent over my massage table, shaking her ass and waiting for my arrival, but that arrival never came.

I was trying to wipe all the cum off my hands, as I skeeted all over my hands and floor. Smh. I cleaned up for a good 2 minutes, as she was still bent over waiting. I then told her that I blew my load already and began to start dressing myself. She got off the massage table and continued to dance while the music was playing on her phone.

She kept dancing for a good 10 minutes before I told her that I was tired and worn out. She started getting dressed right after, as I apologized to her for being so tired. I could tell that I could have pretty much done whatever I wanted to with this chic, as she didn't seem to care a bit. She said she smokes a lot of weed, but I never smelled any weed on her the whole time.

We both got dressed and I walked her out as she thanked me for the cheddah. We got into my hooptie and I drove her back to her condo. Once there, she started talking my ears off in the parking lot about all her trials and tribulations, that I didn't really care for. She said that she and one other older black woman are the only 2 black people in that condo.

She says that she smokes a lot of weed on the roof top of the condo and a lot of the older white citizens of the condo don't like her for that. She also told me how she took care of a lady and her 2 kids that were living with her for a while. Funny, how a supposed stripper who's been on her own since 15 years could, could afford a condo in Buckhead and also take care of a woman and her 2 kids for some time.

She also claims that she's in school full time too. Hmm. Where the hell is she getting all her money from is what I wunna know. She said that she only works at the strip club in the morning time and only when she needs the money, but she doesn't seem to be starving for any money at all. Hmm. She's definitely not being honest about what she does for money to pay all her bills and such.

I didn't really care to know anways, as I started rubbing my eyes to signal that I had enough of her stories. Smh. She told me that she wouldn't hold me up anymore and said that she hopes to see me again. Sure. Not!! I wished her farewell and she was on her way. Nice friendly girl with ok body, but the frowsyness wasn't for me.

She's BB everything and seems like a lonely girl that will let you do whatever the hell you want to her. She just text me 3 weeks ago asking me if I wanted to hook up again. I made up a lie telling her that I was trying to buy a new car and fix up my old car. LOL. She's a nice girl, but not what I thought she'd look like from the pics.

The pics may be taken at good angles. Who knows? I'll give her a "6" in looks and an "8" in service, since she offered me BB everything.