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  1. #4753
    Quote Originally Posted by RogerOver  [View Original Post]
    Personally, I'm not an Abby hater. The reason I won't mess with her is because she's simply pitiful in my opinion. And I don't think someone as fucked up as she is can truly consent, since her mind is a messy vat of bullshit. But there's plenty of guys on here that think that's a feature, not a bug.
    I personally prefer my girls to be more FWB than cum dumpsters.

    It's just a personal preference so to each their own but because of that I have only seen Abby twice instead of the 600 or so times I have seen my ATF.

  2. #4752
    Quote Originally Posted by JMaster299  [View Original Post]
    The point I was trying to make is we all need to remember that providers are people too. A great provider going through a rough time should t be dismissed, avoided and forgotten. Because that means there will never be a chance they will be a great provider again and we all lose out.

    There are plenty of providers who aren't worth the effort. They exist exclusively as cheap cum dumps. I'll happily walk away from any of them the second they are no longer worth their already cheap rates. But IMO, the really good providers like Tasia are worth a little effort and patience when they go through a rough patch.
    Ashley Black is a legit provider who just so happens to be a person too. Let's not forget that now.

  3. #4751

    Abby

    Quote Originally Posted by Jedi69  [View Original Post]
    Out of the dozens and dozens of Abby haters on this forum, you are definitely the most rabid. Nearly half your posts are all directed against her. I already knew the reason why. Been mongering long enough to know that nothing brings out the drama and causes both hookers and mongers alike to be apoplectic than the subject of money and rates.

    Thank you for the confirmation. Yet one more shining example why I never mention donation in my reports. You ask 100 different nutsacks. You get 100 different answers. Each nutsack thinks his figure is the gold standard.
    Personally, I'm not an Abby hater. The reason I won't mess with her is because she's simply pitiful in my opinion. And I don't think someone as fucked up as she is can truly consent, since her mind is a messy vat of bullshit. But there's plenty of guys on here that think that's a feature, not a bug.

  4. #4750
    Quote Originally Posted by MrStaypuft  [View Original Post]
    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...vegas/72091360#.

    Asked for 1 hr, CIP no anal, responded $200.

    I will try to feel this out more when I visit next week, no reverse image search hit.
    No offense, but if you think that ad is real, you're going to have a tough time out here.

    The text sounds like it was written by a bot and not even a good one. You can tell by the watermark on one of the images that the pics were lifted off some random girl's * page. I guarantee if you continue texting that number you're going to get asked for a deposit or get led to some bogus link to steal your info.

  5. #4749
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mcsylv  [View Original Post]
    LOL I guess you guys are getting the insider price. I hit her up on HX, got quoted 5 benjis, she came over and I DID have Jameson for her. She poured a glass, took a couple sips, we fucked 2 rounds with her kinda rushing me, then she showered and put her clothes on and asked for the 500.
    Out of the dozens and dozens of Abby haters on this forum, you are definitely the most rabid. Nearly half your posts are all directed against her. I already knew the reason why. Been mongering long enough to know that nothing brings out the drama and causes both hookers and mongers alike to be apoplectic than the subject of money and rates.

    Thank you for the confirmation. Yet one more shining example why I never mention donation in my reports. You ask 100 different nutsacks. You get 100 different answers. Each nutsack thinks his figure is the gold standard.

  6. #4748

    # seems new.

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...vegas/72091360#.

    Asked for 1 hr, CIP no anal, responded $200.

    I will try to feel this out more when I visit next week, no reverse image search hit.

  7. #4747

    Turning in my Abby card as well

    Quote Originally Posted by BiffBallly  [View Original Post]
    You kept seeing Abby and I respectfully submit that you'll keep seeing Abby even after this little dust-up. Why? Because she has no real competition when it comes to hot AF cum dumpsters who will spread a long lovely pair of legs and eagerly take every load you can drop without complaint. For a fair price. Even for +100 we all know that Abby is a steal. Oh sure you can go find some cheap raggedy ass skanky fugly old hoe who would make most guys wretch & run for the hills and if that works for you? That's great. For the rest of us? Abby remains a guilty pleasure and we all know that we risk a worst-case "Abby Experience" like you describe here. As someone who has fucked Abby literally hundreds of times I can tell you that ditching clients mid-session is her latest "trick". It's extremely frustrating but it goes with the territory, apparently. My advice to anyone who will listen is this. No matter what. The minute you see Abby? Fuck her. Seriously. Don't wait, just strip and fuck the ***** as hard & as long as you can. Pound the shit out of her. Then if you want to shower / have a drink / chat / whatever with her? It could happen. Or maybe not. That's why fucking her the minute you see the whites of her trademark eyes with their dark artificial eyebrows is like an insurance policy. If she ditches you five minutes later? She's leaving with a pussy dripping with all the cum you could muster. That counts for something. And you can let her go until next time without feeling like you have been completely ripped off. There is no worse feeling and I'm sorry that happened to you.
    There has never really been a smooth point with Abby. I have been seeing her for a long time now and ever since ever she has always been guilty of trying to scam her clients out of money without giving anything up. She has robbed me multiple times over the years, whether it be running out on you during an appointment with the donation, or telling you to go get Jameson then doesn't text you back until hours later once you return with Jameson. Just about every single scheme she has thought of she's thrown my way. I kept coming back because I hate to admit but she's got some good pussy and her will to go along with whatever you want to do is astonishing and that's a hard deal to pass up but now I'm starting to get to my limit she is absolutely at her worst now. It is just exhausting to deal with her nonsense when you decide to meet up with her. The past few times I have seen her have all been in December and 2 of those time she managed to duck out after fucking once no matter how much donation it is iffy whether she will honor multiple pops which is what always held me back from giving her more money. The other time her drug dealer showed up which was not something I'm interested in being a part of especially with her. But now there are more BBFS providers starting to pop up around Vegas and it makes such a difference when the transaction is smooth and chemistry is always a plus but not necessary versus the fucking headache you will bring upon yourself with Abby. For any of you out there that are still hitting her up faithfully I don't know how you do it but it certainly isn't getting any better with her.

  8. #4746
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcsylv  [View Original Post]
    Interesting, why would girls work in these small clubs? Are they not attractive enough for the bigger clubs where they can charge more, and don't have to BBFS 8 dudes a day?
    Generally that would be the case, but you do find some diamonds. Most of these girls are from Romania, and when they arrive they speak zero german and even less english, so a translator app is your best friend. I became with a few of them and talk regularly on FB.

    8 dudes? I knew one that averaged 15 x a day. Most average 10 a day. Its a very niche market and clients.

  9. #4745
    Quote Originally Posted by Sam820  [View Original Post]
    I saw her Thursday night at her incall at cosmo. She only asked for 300.
    300? 500? Way to drive up the price when $150-$200 with booze works for two pops.

  10. #4744

    Back Down to $100

    Way to stay disciplined guys April is once again $100 down from $300.

    https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...vegas/72111425

  11. #4743
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcsylv  [View Original Post]
    LOL I guess you guys are getting the insider price. I hit her up on HX, got quoted 5 benjis, she came over and I DID have Jameson for her. She poured a glass, took a couple sips, we fucked 2 rounds with her kinda rushing me, then she showered and put her clothes on and asked for the 500.

    Curious how your experience goes when you see her. Does she know you from way back and back then she always did 100, so that's what you give her? Do you negotiate over text and she accepts 100? Does she show up expecting more, and you just tell her you only have 100 after you fuck her?

    Also curious as to whether Tasia and Trinity are also available for way lower rates. Tasia quoted me 600/ hr and Trinity 280/ hr.
    Speaking for myself I've never paid more than 200 to see Abby and this is going back to 2019. There's been times when I was on my way and she would text so you have 300? Or some other amount and I would just say what she agreed to and she responded ok and that was that. If she asked me to pick up drinks I would but I could never see spending 500 just based on the unpredictability alone but to each their own.

  12. #4742
    Quote Originally Posted by SfoDavid67  [View Original Post]
    This is one of the so called "Red Carpet Clubs" in Northern Germany. Entry into club is only 30 euro, and 50 euro for 30 min is the standard. Granted these RTC clubs are not as nice and the BIG FKK, and they are often out and off the beat and path but I am not there to enjoy the sauna and the food. There are three clubs I go to in the area, all pretty much cater to "Germans Only" and if any regular guy showed up at the door, they would likely be denied entry. I was able to gain entry with my German Friend who is a "stammgast", who goes to these clubs usually 4 times a week and fucks 3 times a day. He is very well known, and received his endorsement so I am good to go by myself now. One of the three clubs, I still cannot get into without my friend, but with the one 20 yo "Russian Model" that works at the 3rd club it is worth coordinating schedules.

    So yes if you go to a big mainline FKK near Frankfurt such as Oase or Sharks, you will pay 70 euro to get in, and 100 euro for a shitty CBJ, but I have not been to one of those clubs in years.
    Interesting, why would girls work in these small clubs? Are they not attractive enough for the bigger clubs where they can charge more, and don't have to BBFS 8 dudes a day?

  13. #4741
    Quote Originally Posted by Mcsylv  [View Original Post]
    I thought FKK was more expensive than that? $55 is Tijuana prices.
    This is one of the so called "Red Carpet Clubs" in Northern Germany. Entry into club is only 30 euro, and 50 euro for 30 min is the standard. Granted these RTC clubs are not as nice and the BIG FKK, and they are often out and off the beat and path but I am not there to enjoy the sauna and the food. There are three clubs I go to in the area, all pretty much cater to "Germans Only" and if any regular guy showed up at the door, they would likely be denied entry. I was able to gain entry with my German Friend who is a "stammgast", who goes to these clubs usually 4 times a week and fucks 3 times a day. He is very well known, and received his endorsement so I am good to go by myself now. One of the three clubs, I still cannot get into without my friend, but with the one 20 yo "Russian Model" that works at the 3rd club it is worth coordinating schedules.

    So yes if you go to a big mainline FKK near Frankfurt such as Oase or Sharks, you will pay 70 euro to get in, and 100 euro for a shitty CBJ, but I have not been to one of those clubs in years.

  14. #4740

    Abby

    Quote Originally Posted by Mcsylv  [View Original Post]
    LOL I guess you guys are getting the insider price. I hit her up on HX, got quoted 5 benjis, she came over and I DID have Jameson for her. She poured a glass, took a couple sips, we fucked 2 rounds with her kinda rushing me, then she showered and put her clothes on and asked for the 500.

    Curious how your experience goes when you see her. Does she know you from way back and back then she always did 100, so that's what you give her? Do you negotiate over text and she accepts 100? Does she show up expecting more, and you just tell her you only have 100 after you fuck her?

    Also curious as to whether Tasia and Trinity are also available for way lower rates. Tasia quoted me 600/ hr and Trinity 280/ hr.
    I saw her Thursday night at her incall at cosmo. She only asked for 300. She was high as a kite on something. Def not alcohol. She did offer me a drink, which I politely declined (water, soda, jameson). Was a fairly lackluster session. Some bad odor down there which I didn't realize until I was already in her. But she did get me to bust in her cip. She wanted me to go again, but I didn't want to deal with the smell, and the fact that she was struggling to put a coherent sentence together. Bolted out after 1 round.

  15. #4739
    Quote Originally Posted by EagleLuver  [View Original Post]
    If you are paying 5 Benji's for an hour with Abby you are crazy. You can get her a bottle of Jamison and a Benji.

    Abby WAS a 9/10 but now a 7/10 is probably accurate and as someone who doesn't care about kinks other than BBFS I don't care about how kinky she is. You are right though you can find MUCH better but its a lot of work and risk. I have found some absolute gems but for every gem I go through 10-20 complete mediocre ones.
    LOL I guess you guys are getting the insider price. I hit her up on HX, got quoted 5 benjis, she came over and I DID have Jameson for her. She poured a glass, took a couple sips, we fucked 2 rounds with her kinda rushing me, then she showered and put her clothes on and asked for the 500.

    Curious how your experience goes when you see her. Does she know you from way back and back then she always did 100, so that's what you give her? Do you negotiate over text and she accepts 100? Does she show up expecting more, and you just tell her you only have 100 after you fuck her?

    Also curious as to whether Tasia and Trinity are also available for way lower rates. Tasia quoted me 600/ hr and Trinity 280/ hr.

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