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  1. #23536
    Quote Originally Posted by DblEspresso  [View Original Post]
    If you're a real good regular they may give you a pass, but it has its limits andthey can't be chronic and not 1 or 2 hours before appointment unless you're in a car accident with proof or your bank account got hacked.
    Sure, that is reasonable and is how it generally worked before this news.

    However, this should also mean the other side shouldn't cancel habitually and you don't get cancels on a whim from a girl whod rather see her favorite monger instead and bumps you off.

    When one side is denied even emergency cancels, and the other can bump off guys who aren't vips or super regs, there is clear asymmetry here. Effectively saying "we do what we want and you do what you can" isn't a two-way business.

  2. #23535

    Cancelations

    Quote Originally Posted by RocketManP  [View Original Post]
    Well, maybe it's time to decide. Is it a two way business where treatment of customer is almost or even equally important as making profit.

    Or is it a ruthless "underworld" one-way business where no one owes anyone anything?

    If it's the latter. The underworld sure loves to monitor boards such as these and get their panties in a bunch when someone posts a mediocre review because "muh bizness". Dishing it out but not being able to take it is pretty hypocritical, and I would say cowardly, from this underworld.

    Review sites, boards, public groups and such are the equivalent of consumer protection and bbb.

    And clearly, they have impact. Otherwise the underworld wouldn't send shills, make up fake glowing reviews, make product sound better than it is and so forth. Even voicing your displeasure here have an impact.

    The way I see it, right now,
    If you get canceled on =you get fucked.
    If you have an emergency and have to cancel =you get fucked. Lose lose for mongers.

    And you're getting fucked without getting actually fucked.
    If you're a real good regular they may give you a pass, but it has its limits andthey can't be chronic and not 1 or 2 hours before appointment unless you're in a car accident with proof or your bank account got hacked.

  3. #23534

    Cancellations

    Maybe I don't partake as often as some here but cancellations are very rare for me. I used to get the occasional cancellation from quirky Joy / Glow, but besides her the last one was pre-COVID with M and she was very apologetic. Probably had all of 2-3 in my years with M and haven't had any from PKL or SA since they opened shop. I think it helps that I usually make same-day appointments or if I pre-book, it is just one day in advance. Some of you are are talking about giving more than 24 hours notice to cancel which suggests you book multiple days out. Do you have the volume to justify this level of service? I don't agree with it, but I can kind of understand a booker cancelling some guy that only visits once a month who prebooked Jean a week in advance so that a guy that visits multiple times a week can get an appointment.

  4. #23533

    Which agency? Saki

    Quote Originally Posted by GoldDust58  [View Original Post]
    Eunji didn't have slot but surprised to get offered Saki. She has always been a hidden gem within that org. Same great tits same tightness. I thought she was on a long vacation. Now back. Open the door and what a surprise. She was glowing. I know why she took time off now. I won't spoil the surprise for those who are going to see her soon but she looks stunning now. Absolutely stunning. She is truly my Asian Cindy Crawford. I couldn't stop staring at her. She is delivering hella eye candy right now. Noticed a little more plump to her ass too. DG an improvement.

    For those on the fence I do recommend. One of the prettiest girls in the market imo, especially today. Body is looking a bit more slender. She has been working out a little it shows. I left entirely satisfied. No regrets not being able to see Eunji instead.
    Which agency is Saki with?

  5. #23532
    Quote Originally Posted by SsStuntCock  [View Original Post]
    I've been on both sides of a cancellation and have realized this is simply par for the course.

    It can't be overstated that this is the underworld; a place where people make and brake their own rules for a living.

    Complaining to the BBB or writing a shitty Yelp review only means it time to find a new hobby.

    If the universe owes you nothing, the underworld even less so.
    Well, maybe it's time to decide. Is it a two way business where treatment of customer is almost or even equally important as making profit.

    Or is it a ruthless "underworld" one-way business where no one owes anyone anything?

    If it's the latter. The underworld sure loves to monitor boards such as these and get their panties in a bunch when someone posts a mediocre review because "muh bizness". Dishing it out but not being able to take it is pretty hypocritical, and I would say cowardly, from this underworld.

    Review sites, boards, public groups and such are the equivalent of consumer protection and bbb.

    And clearly, they have impact. Otherwise the underworld wouldn't send shills, make up fake glowing reviews, make product sound better than it is and so forth. Even voicing your displeasure here have an impact.

    The way I see it, right now,
    If you get canceled on =you get fucked.
    If you have an emergency and have to cancel =you get fucked. Lose lose for mongers.

    And you're getting fucked without getting actually fucked.

  6. #23531

    Tuesday Oct. 5


  7. #23530
    Quote Originally Posted by RocketManP  [View Original Post]
    Complete bs, dude. The funniest thing, is that korgs can't exist without mongers. Mongers can exist without korgs. Yet there is more assymetric systemic mistreatment of mongers as prices rise and overall quality plateaud ever since covid if not took a nosedive.
    There will always be business for orgs. There will always be mongers. Take a look at the big time B&S orgs. They aren't going anymore. They still keep getting girls. Why? Because girls know they can go there and the org will B&S mongers so they can make their money for a week or two and then go on to the next B&S org with a new name. No review will even be posted before they are out of there.

    Boycott, nice try. I tired to tell you guys don't pay Jamie the up charge when I moved here. No one really cared. Here we are now with girls charging 400 plus. We are 1/10 or less of the monger pool. Some guys don't really care as long as they're getting it on and fulfilling fantasies.

  8. #23529

    Monger's Union!

    Just' sayin'.

  9. #23528
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack926  [View Original Post]
    I think cancellation within 24 hours should be allowed without any penalty for both sides. I had an appointment in MW and drove all the way to get there and I was told that water heater is broken and the girl can't see me. I fricking confirmed at 8:30 AM that day and my appointment was at 11:00 AM and same booker lost her shit with me after I cancelled on her with more than 24 hours notice. How many times have I visited that booker ladies? In the past 6 months, I have visited eleven times and I had two cancellations and both were with more than 24 hours notice.

    Some Bookers are pissy these days because their business is slow. If they had guys lined up, they would not give a shit if you cancel at last minute.
    Complete bs, dude. The funniest thing, is that korgs can't exist without mongers. Mongers can exist without korgs. Yet there is more assymetric systemic mistreatment of mongers as prices rise and overall quality plateaud ever since covid if not took a nosedive.

  10. #23527
    Quote Originally Posted by BenderOver  [View Original Post]
    I've been cancelled on twice, while waiting parked in front of the apartment. First time was due to accidental double booking. The second time was due to provider not showing up for work. Different girl both times. All I got was a "sorry". Wasn't even offered a discount for a different girl or future visit.
    At least you got a "sorry". LOL. There were instances I wasn't even offered a sorry, just the other available girls.

    The degree of power orgs and bookers wied in this biz is starting to get ridiculous. Cancelation fees when canceling more than 24 hrs? Yet we don't even get a sorry when we get canceled on? LOL assymetric as fuck. We have to provide real selfies, but on the other side it's fake pic galore.

    These bookers / orgs are on a power trip with this bullshit.

  11. #23526

    Can't be overstated

    I've been on both sides of a cancellation and have realized this is simply par for the course.

    It can't be overstated that this is the underworld; a place where people make and brake their own rules for a living.

    Complaining to the BBB or writing a shitty Yelp review only means it time to find a new hobby.

    If the universe owes you nothing, the underworld even less so.

  12. #23525
    Quote Originally Posted by Shijia  [View Original Post]
    On the topic of getting banned. Do we get unbanned? If yes, for how long are we banned before letting is book again?
    This isn't some school or government organization that has rules and set penalties for certain violations. Maybe the Booker was having a bad day and was in a bad mood. Maybe it was some response from you (I've seen guys leave out details from their stories because they don't want to admit any perceived bad behavior on their part). You can try again or try to apologize and get back in their good graces.

  13. 10-04-21 19:47


  14. #23524
    Quote Originally Posted by NintyNine  [View Original Post]
    Cancellation fee is penny wise, pound foolish.

    Unless you're a repeat offender, cancellation or blacklist is a stupid policy.
    Become a booker and I guarantee you won't say that.

  15. #23523
    Quote Originally Posted by Jack926  [View Original Post]
    I think cancellation within 24 hours should be allowed without any penalty for both sides. I had an appointment in MW and drove all the way to get there and I was told that water heater is broken and the girl can't see me. I fricking confirmed at 8:30 AM that day and my appointment was at 11:00 AM and same booker lost her shit with me after I cancelled on her with more than 24 hours notice. How many times have I visited that booker ladies? In the past 6 months, I have visited eleven times and I had two cancellations and both were with more than 24 hours notice.

    Some Bookers are pissy these days because their business is slow. If they had guys lined up, they would not give a shit if you cancel at last minute.
    It's not as slow as we may think. Some bookers have girls who are busy all day and they don't want last minute cancellations which, regardless of how busy they may be, still don't want to throw away $300. I'm sure they view each cancellation on its own merit but if you're pre booking and object then maybe you shouldn't prebook.

  16. #23522
    Quote Originally Posted by Majieroero  [View Original Post]
    The agencies are the ones providing the business so they set the rules, but they should consider a balance of power within that business too. It seems one-sided and deterring when they get to charge cancellation fees for mongers cancelling, but also have the ability to flake out on the mongers consequence free when the bookers screw up. I get the rationale behind the cancellation fees and I'm sure plenty of mongers have been shitty towards them about it, but they should acknowledge their faults as well and come up with a system that feels somewhat fair for both sides. If a booker offers discounts for their f up, I'm sure mongers would feel more willing to pay for their cancellation as well. Otherwise they're just going to fall into a cycle of losing businesses, which only amplifies the loss from that cancellation in the first place.

    At the end of the day though, none of these bookers are actual business professionals. They're just retired provider turned mama-sans that probably never had any other opportunities outside of providing as they got too old to provide. I doubt any of them are actually educated about business practices. I'm usually very careful with my booking and try to minimize any interactions with the people on the other side of the phone screen because they're generally very unpleasant, overly dramatic, and unreasonable human beings that I want no part of.
    I know from my years of experience in the K-girl world the reverse has also been true. There have been times where an appointment was cancelled last minute due to a girl not feeling well or maybe a plumbing problem that required workers to enter the apartment. In the cases I'm familiar with there were steps taken to mollify the disgruntled or disappointed monger such as the offer of another girl or, as mentioned, a discount for a future appointment. They are not stupid or heartless and understand that these things sometimes work both ways. In my experience the hard line is usually taken with those who they find to be somewhat of a pain in the ass.

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