Ripoff Reports

[Vegasguy324]

I never had an experience like this with Abby. I know she has booked multiple people at once before. I am sure Jeff is one of her clients / drug suppliers. I have seen her more recently at her apartment. At silver sevens, I don't think they have working cameras in the hotel. Good thing you got out, I have heard more bad experiences then good ones lately..

Yea, I had a lot of good times with Abby from the silver sevens to the Sahara and her apt. Last time I went to her apartment she was so spun out on something. Not drunk like I was used to with her. I truly think she went off the deep end and won't see her again. So sad, she was a great time.

[Funky40]

I never had an experience like this with Abby. I know she has booked multiple people at once before. I am sure Jeff is one of her clients / drug suppliers. I have seen her more recently at her apartment. At silver sevens, I don't think they have working cameras in the hotel. Good thing you got out, I have heard more bad experiences then good ones lately.

Went to see Abby. She had a room at silver sevens. When I got there she was sketchy af. Remnants of crack pipes, ghb and hypodermic needles. The door to the bedroom in the suite was closed. She said "oh. I locked myself out" I tried the door and she freaked out and said. My friend Jeff is in there. He is passed out on G. I said no problem and got ready to leave. She said, don't worry. I'm going to kick him out, he is a faggot anyway. She leaned in the door and said "it's ok, I love you baby, " and I heard him leave I told her no fing way am I staying. She was high as f pupils blown and blood running from the needle marks from whatever was going on before I got there. I told her again, I'm out. She calls this other dude and starts with this "this guy won't leave, he's forcing me to stay here. I'm trying to get out and I hear a bang bang bang on the door. She says OMG. Don't open it l, he's crazy. I try to leave, open the door and this 6'3 spun out white dude is standing there, glazed eyes and starts yelling, what are you doing to her. . (all I did was try to leave) she says it's ok jeff. I'm sorry. I lied. He doesn't believe her and shows me his gun, I get into the hallways so I'm in the open, he tells me to give her all my money, I toss a few bucks on the ground and walk off. Weirdest fkn experience ever. My impression, she is so far gone on drugs that she will do anything. Any money she gets she blows it in the casino. I don't expect her to be around long. I feel bad, she is a nice kid but she isn't long for this world at the rate she is using and the people she sees. It's not worth it. Stay away. She says she doesn't inject, today I saw all I needed to know she is a hazard.

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[IceCreamLicker]

Went to see Abby. She had a room at silver sevens. When I got there she was sketchy af. Remnants of crack pipes, ghb and hypodermic needles. The door to the bedroom in the suite was closed. She said "oh. I locked myself out" I tried the door and she freaked out and said. My friend Jeff is in there. He is passed out on G. I said no problem and got ready to leave. She said, don't worry. I'm going to kick him out, he is a faggot anyway. She leaned in the door and said "it's ok, I love you baby, " and I heard him leave I told her no fing way am I staying. She was high as f pupils blown and blood running from the needle marks from whatever was going on before I got there. I told her again, I'm out. She calls this other dude and starts with this "this guy won't leave, he's forcing me to stay here. I'm trying to get out and I hear a bang bang bang on the door. She says OMG. Don't open it l, he's crazy. I try to leave, open the door and this 6'3 spun out white dude is standing there, glazed eyes and starts yelling, what are you doing to her. . (all I did was try to leave) she says it's ok jeff. I'm sorry. I lied. He doesn't believe her and shows me his gun, I get into the hallways so I'm in the open, he tells me to give her all my money, I toss a few bucks on the ground and walk off. Weirdest fkn experience ever. My impression, she is so far gone on drugs that she will do anything. Any money she gets she blows it in the casino. I don't expect her to be around long. I feel bad, she is a nice kid but she isn't long for this world at the rate she is using and the people she sees. It's not worth it. Stay away. She says she doesn't inject, today I saw all I needed to know she is a hazard.

[MobyCock]

40 to 50 year old woman that put a few up, looked like pure white t, or a wigger. I hoped then thought she was the former when I went for IN the end of December. Sort of ok but all the facts didn't add up to rubber dog shit by a mile. So why return, way better options. For less. Well this Woman had sort of a annual come up and out of the blue asked me to come to her room, I thought a straight hh or H date. Well I get there right when she gets the room, So I know I'm first. Anyway, her idea is we spend the night together, like off the clock, OK good deal you'd think, now I'm not ripping the pants off marathon and that's not what she wanted either. What she wanted was to run her new service. Get this, she talks no she bitches and complains and crys about all the drama and looser men in her live from a to z and back again, and she doesn't want to hear more than 2 sentences in a row at a time for the man. No you pay for her to run her mouth. Straight out. Comical insanity except she uses some graphic suggestive language in her posts to "trick" you into the room in the first place. PUN intended. Now, I spent time the first time about 4 hours. And I don't want to say how long last night. (but off the clock I paid for dinner- that's it being the lab rat).

Keep in mind I knew none of this when she asked me to Come not cum but it all came to be as the hours past, not till the very end did she run it down. I can tell you she does not intend to fuck suck or get fucked, or get 4 ssd. She doesn't "take abuse" anymore. I didn't ask, I sure didn't intend and I don't know why the heck she chose me to crash test. I was hard uh 2 lifetimes ago, still TRY and look the part. I think she thought at some point, I'd loose it and. But no, I hoped for freebie, but I know her enough that she don't give freebies for fuck all, she even charged wouldn't give me soda the first date at her house with out I shuck a dollar!! Yeah no. I had nothing better to do, not that I didn't feel a bit ripped this morning, but. As I paid for nothing, with a hooker, lets stay in frame, I expected nothing from the hooker. And glad I am I held that perspective for as the wee hours passed and I began to rise. I put out some feelers and it was unspoken but clear then spoken clearly, nothing was going to happen, Interestingly she didn't append or hint at $$ opening that door. You follow, what ever has flowered in her head, she's not fucking for free or for cash. TO make a long story shorter and end. Don't waste your time $$ or freedom with the nasty looking Gigi, 1 of the self proclaimed queens of LV, if you do go, you will see she is a. A Drama Queen. I think she's at that point brothers, I think the first sorry fuck that goes and thinks he is renting her hoes and. And then gets pissed and tries to take it. I base that on a lot of things she let me know that can't and won't be shared. I know I tend to type a lot more than, but heed this one, don't think don't try don't even pause to consider. I bet she goes postal before March. . I hope not. But she hell bent. I'and not adding or replying so save your type, all you need is: queen or the name.

[And2021]

So just to understand I thought the WWW is for the Wild West Truck stop or is there a hotel instead now?

I know alot of you like the thrill of a cheap street walking drug *****, dirty and hi or desperate to get high. This lady knows it and she plays the part, but parts with your $$ no joy.

I was playing slots at Orleans & what surely looks like a homeless drug ***** sits by me and starts talking, first the sad story, yes she uses meds, with points. Got everything stolen, shares a room with 3 other SWs & their pimp, not hers. Right. She looses 3 dollars, "all of her $$" and now needs more offers head for 40.30. I have $17 - no hesitation, she's up & ready. I say where? I have no room, she wants car date, but she's dirty, not in my car, I say I am with a pal who drove so she says we can go to the WWW where the room is after I say No, not in the alley behind Home Depot, so we're off a few blocks to WWW right? Wrong, somehow, yes I let her, she manages to make the 20 minute walk take 3 hous, stopping everywhere and nowhere. We did stop on the train tracks I was like here will do, so I fork over 15, pull them down she gives 30 seconds of ok, but gets paranoid & tooth, she says lets go to the room, you can fk me for the same. We stop at the chevron & I get some food. We get to WWW she wants to check room, I don't watch her thinking. Could be bs, but at this point. I waited 15 minutes, she never returned, she had given me her # first as I was looking for latter. Avoid at all costs. She is a SW on trop phone doesn't work now. I called after 15 minutes, she hung up, I called an hour later from another # SHe was all you ready now, I said yeah for you to finish, she hung up, then texts an apology, If I go there now, we can work it out. Yeah, my friend is the night engineer at WWW and I got the info on her, they have complaints of guys going to meet her in her room only to be met my a man. They kicked her out but she does work with 2 or 3 other sws on the hustle so they all pick up guys to burn at the room. Beware, this is her I don't know who her co rip robs are. She is NOT this slim or young she is about 45 or older and looks very pregnant, he pics but very old.

Kids are away mommy ready to play ASK ABOUT MY EARLY BIRD SPECIAL- is her post, but its total bs, she's a homeless drug hoe.

Does everything, especially talk non stop except what you are trying to do, waste of time, she wants you to buy her smokes food, drink, gamble a few $$ 1st, subtract it from her rate, by the time you think its going to start, she goes to check the room. BS, & disappears. Also is VERY blunt about her pimp who lives in her room, dead giveaway. Wasted 3 hours 50 dollars. Got 30 second preview of head she's filthy and has a belly bigger than pregnant.

[MobyCock]

I know alot of you like the thrill of a cheap street walking drug *****, dirty and hi or desperate to get high. This lady knows it and she plays the part, but parts with your $$ no joy.

I was playing slots at Orleans & what surely looks like a homeless drug ***** sits by me and starts talking, first the sad story, yes she uses meds, with points. Got everything stolen, shares a room with 3 other SWs & their pimp, not hers. Right. She looses 3 dollars, "all of her $$" and now needs more offers head for 40.30. I have $17 - no hesitation, she's up & ready. I say where? I have no room, she wants car date, but she's dirty, not in my car, I say I am with a pal who drove so she says we can go to the WWW where the room is after I say No, not in the alley behind Home Depot, so we're off a few blocks to WWW right? Wrong, somehow, yes I let her, she manages to make the 20 minute walk take 3 hous, stopping everywhere and nowhere. We did stop on the train tracks I was like here will do, so I fork over 15, pull them down she gives 30 seconds of ok, but gets paranoid & tooth, she says lets go to the room, you can fk me for the same. We stop at the chevron & I get some food. We get to WWW she wants to check room, I don't watch her thinking. Could be bs, but at this point. I waited 15 minutes, she never returned, she had given me her # first as I was looking for latter. Avoid at all costs. She is a SW on trop phone doesn't work now. I called after 15 minutes, she hung up, I called an hour later from another # SHe was all you ready now, I said yeah for you to finish, she hung up, then texts an apology, If I go there now, we can work it out. Yeah, my friend is the night engineer at WWW and I got the info on her, they have complaints of guys going to meet her in her room only to be met my a man. They kicked her out but she does work with 2 or 3 other sws on the hustle so they all pick up guys to burn at the room. Beware, this is her I don't know who her co rip robs are. She is NOT this slim or young she is about 45 or older and looks very pregnant, he pics but very old.

Kids are away mommy ready to play ASK ABOUT MY EARLY BIRD SPECIAL- is her post, but its total bs, she's a homeless drug hoe.

Does everything, especially talk non stop except what you are trying to do, waste of time, she wants you to buy her smokes food, drink, gamble a few $$ 1st, subtract it from her rate, by the time you think its going to start, she goes to check the room. BS, & disappears. Also is VERY blunt about her pimp who lives in her room, dead giveaway. Wasted 3 hours 50 dollars. Got 30 second preview of head she's filthy and has a belly bigger than pregnant.

[And2021]

Since the last report I have noted on her instagram that she has reported trying to move to a new address so the Antelope Road address may no longer be current.

Also there is another provider associated with her which may also be doing the attempted robbery / ripoffs:

https://www.instagram.com/hannahmariecook702/

I tried seeing the second provider but she wanted me to give her the payment prior to coming inside and leave with the money while in my car waiting her further instructions. LOL.

Needless to say I declined to prepay.

Went to see this lady at a house in Summerlin on Antelope Bend Ct:

https://escortindex.com/ad/lasvegas/725-235-0/1/4040005

https://escortindex.com/search?id=4105242&city=lasvegas

https://www.instagram.com/alaynabethiya702/

https://www.instagram.com/notalaynabryce/

I parked a block away and walked in. First I noted two dark colored Honda Accords with no license plates. In one of the Accords with no plate, it was idling and there was a bunch of smoke coming out through the crack of the window and three guys in it. Then I walked up to the doorway of the house next to and then walked down the block and called her. She asked what car I was in and I told her the truck, which was not my car and then a guy gets out of the Accord and looks in the truck. Then she calls me back and finally admits that the three guys were planning on attacking me. I then monitored the street for about 15 minutes and another guy gets out of the house and in to the waiting Accord and finally drives off.

Then I call again and get a guy on the phone who asks how much money I had and then states that he is her boyfriend and that he is not jealous and knows she has an ad. Then he asks me if I wanted a BJ but I said I was promised a BBBJ but then he said she is not allowed to do that. Then they block my number.

[SFVsag]

Rip-off depends on one's POV. The problem is that the sub forum attempts to be a one-size-fits-all category. There is no other place in LV section to subcategorize all kinds of less than ideal service.

There's the Escort Reviews subforum. It's not limited to sterling reviews. Good, bad, indifferent. They're all reviews and really all should be reported.

[JmSuttr]

Rip-off depends on one's POV. The problem is that the sub forum attempts to be a one-size-fits-all category. There is no other place in LV section to subcategorize all kinds of less than ideal service.

However in my opinion, Las Vegas is the town that invented escorting rip offs, I present the Casino Girls and trick rollers as Exhibit A. The town built on bilking tourists out of their hard earned wages in the tables and machines also perfected the art of ripping off horny tourists who have little to no recourse after they realize the $200 they just handed to the catfish is nothing more than an agency fee for showing up your door, for a girl who looks nothing like the young, thin, sexy white girl in the ad.

I've mongered all over the world and, while LV may take the domestic crown, there are some overseas destinations where ripoffs are much worse and often life-threatening as tourists (especially mongers) are seen as easy prey.

But that's actually not my point. If there's no generally accepted definition, why bother having a separate ripoff thread? It's understandable when a monger gets upset because they got CBJ when they wanted BBBJ, or their "hour" session was only 45 minutes, but are those ripoffs? Haven't many mongers experienced being ghosted only to have a good session when they finally connected? I certainly have. There's a perfect place for those posts about less than ideal service, as well as posts about excellent service, it's called Escort Reports.

Definitions are useful because they help everyone stay on the same page. Take GFE, for example, in every USASG forum I've seen it's generally defined as, at a minimum, some degree of kissing, DATY, and BBBJ. Occasionally someone posts about a non-GFE session and mischaracterizes it as GFE, and it doesn't take long for other members to chime in and correct.

I understand YMMV and the subjective nature of the hobby, but some definitions add clarity and, IMHO, ripoff is one of those. There are lots of providers who are all over the place when it comes to service, professionalism, etc. And those deserve whatever reviews and field reports they get, good or bad. But there's a specific subset that have no intention of providing any service at all. They never have, they never will, and all they want is your $. Those are the true ripoffs and there's no YMMV element at all because, when it comes to different mongers, the ripoffs never change.

[Jedi69]

As you experienced, a provider reported as a "Ripoff" actually gave you decent service. And, as you correctly observed, it was more a case of YMMV than anything else.

A provider might be guilty of bad comms, or even ghosting, but that doesn't mean she will rip off a monger who manages to get an appt and meet her in person. A warning about timewasting and flakiness is certainly appropriate but calling her a ripoff is inaccurate, IMHO.

Similarly, a provider who meets you and actually gives some level of service isn't a ripoff. If she cuts the session short or provides lackluster service, by all means that deserves a warning to the forum. But it's possible for another monger that she won't flake and the session provided could be better. Again, YMMV is the rule.

A definite ripoff is when there is zero service provided and the thief walks away (or tries to) with your hard-earned money. And the vast majority of the time the woman never intended to provide any kind of service. Here's an example of a classic ripoff:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post5126703

I completely understand the frustration of any monger who has a bad experience with flaky behavior, time wasting, or poor service. But, IMHO, we should resist the temptation to call someone a ripoff or thief unless they really meet the criteria. Just one monger's two-cents worth.

Rip-off depends on one's POV. The problem is that the sub forum attempts to be a one-size-fits-all category. There is no other place in LV section to subcategorize all kinds of less than ideal service.

However in my opinion, Las Vegas is the town that invented escorting rip offs, I present the Casino Girls and trick rollers as Exhibit A. The town built on bilking tourists out of their hard earned wages in the tables and machines also perfected the art of ripping off horny tourists who have little to no recourse after they realize the $200 they just handed to the catfish is nothing more than an agency fee for showing up your door, for a girl who looks nothing like the young, thin, sexy white girl in the ad.

[JmSuttr]

I was pissed at myself for not checking here first, but I'd reached out to her, she responded. We set up the expectations for a meet and surprisingly, it went well. We had decent conversation, she was exactly like her pics, body was smooth and curvy, she even let me know she was running behind schedule.

The only thing I laughed at to myself, were a few of the ego striking theatrics. No need to holler like that, let's just catch our "O's" and go, LOL. It wasn't anything "deal breaking" but, she could also do with a bit of extra hygiene downstairs. After I left, I saw this post. I'm guessing it's a YMMV kinda thing? Still, thanks to you, I'll keep my eyes open for foolery and let why'all know if she switches things up.

Take it easy and stay safe.

As you experienced, a provider reported as a "Ripoff" actually gave you decent service. And, as you correctly observed, it was more a case of YMMV than anything else.

A provider might be guilty of bad comms, or even ghosting, but that doesn't mean she will rip off a monger who manages to get an appt and meet her in person. A warning about timewasting and flakiness is certainly appropriate but calling her a ripoff is inaccurate, IMHO.

Similarly, a provider who meets you and actually gives some level of service isn't a ripoff. If she cuts the session short or provides lackluster service, by all means that deserves a warning to the forum. But it's possible for another monger that she won't flake and the session provided could be better. Again, YMMV is the rule.

A definite ripoff is when there is zero service provided and the thief walks away (or tries to) with your hard-earned money. And the vast majority of the time the woman never intended to provide any kind of service. Here's an example of a classic ripoff:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post5126703

I completely understand the frustration of any monger who has a bad experience with flaky behavior, time wasting, or poor service. But, IMHO, we should resist the temptation to call someone a ripoff or thief unless they really meet the criteria. Just one monger's two-cents worth.

[YourFacee]

On the 1st at 9 am, I tried 2 that in the RIP ROB files here or elsewhere, both replied agreeing to host later, the first was at work until 3 pm agreed to 330-4 pm arrival.

1st Nasty No Owe Me! I doubt she has a real job, I know she doesn't do Out. If she was legit, I would have went & maybe had something positive in her case to share. 3 pm I msg "about to shower, 4 pm still good?" nothing, 90 minutes later "oh nooo, I;m still at work, LOL," & other BS & "I'm off Sunday, maybe then. " I ask her then Why she agreed earlier to my arrival after work No reply, 30 minutes later still nada so I reminded her that she seems to have a problem with meeting but, I had tried before where she had me wait at 7 11 an hour and ghosted after. Begged for a 2nd chance. Right. And she was blowing this, Her 2nd chance. Point is, I contacted her with a # she doesn't know, basically got nothing but a waste of time Again, only, I doubted her from the start, would have went, but was not counting on her 1 bit. I know she had some ok reviews but they may have been fake, idk, but she does have other reviews similar to my experience, guys go where & when she agrees to. Usually the 7 11 x from her, she ghosts, other negative reviews List: upsell, very rushed, obvious hard derr gg use, very old pics, much larger than pics, she claims "anywhere in Vegas" ONLY does ic, Avoid nasty Naomi, I mean Nasty NO! Owe me. https://callescort.org/702-504-9845.

2nd-Cocksucker Latina Jennifer, East of the Strip, I saw her a couple years ago, agreed to time donation & exactly what I wanted. Got super rushed 1/2 the time we agreed to & BS, she wanted a break to smoke not tobbacco, once she started her cloud break, she couldn't stop, got dressed asking me to return in an hour. I don't need to say what happened when I tried to return, So I also contacted her from new #, she was very positive at first, & I was ready right then, & would have went if. And I would have reminded her about our last meeting when she wanted the flowers. That would be nice & I suspect sooner or later that will happen, but not on the 1st, so I needed some info where are the cross streets, she had agreed to pretty much all, but didn't give incall area, she did keep texting more or less bs but never answering my question about where to go. But she kept textng for 4 hours before ghosting, again, had I expected to actually see her, I;d be pretty pissed.

https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...egas/57355944/

These BEE otch iss really need to respect that OUR time is valuable.

I was pissed at myself for not checking here first, but I'd reached out to her, she responded. We set up the expectations for a meet and surprisingly, it went well. We had decent conversation, she was exactly like her pics, body was smooth and curvy, she even let me know she was running behind schedule.

The only thing I laughed at to myself, were a few of the ego striking theatrics. No need to holler like that, let's just catch our "O's" and go, LOL. It wasn't anything "deal breaking" but, she could also do with a bit of extra hygiene downstairs. After I left, I saw this post. I'm guessing it's a YMMV kinda thing? Still, thanks to you, I'll keep my eyes open for foolery and let why'all know if she switches things up.

Take it easy and stay safe.

[And2021]

On the 1st at 9 am, I tried 2 that in the RIP ROB files here or elsewhere, both replied agreeing to host later, the first was at work until 3 pm agreed to 330-4 pm arrival.

1st Nasty No Owe Me! I doubt she has a real job, I know she doesn't do Out. If she was legit, I would have went & maybe had something positive in her case to share. 3 pm I msg "about to shower, 4 pm still good?" nothing, 90 minutes later "oh nooo, I;m still at work, LOL," & other BS & "I'm off Sunday, maybe then. " I ask her then Why she agreed earlier to my arrival after work No reply, 30 minutes later still nada so I reminded her that she seems to have a problem with meeting but, I had tried before where she had me wait at 7 11 an hour and ghosted after. Begged for a 2nd chance. Right. And she was blowing this, Her 2nd chance. Point is, I contacted her with a # she doesn't know, basically got nothing but a waste of time Again, only, I doubted her from the start, would have went, but was not counting on her 1 bit. I know she had some ok reviews but they may have been fake, idk, but she does have other reviews similar to my experience, guys go where & when she agrees to. Usually the 7 11 x from her, she ghosts, other negative reviews List: upsell, very rushed, obvious hard derr gg use, very old pics, much larger than pics, she claims "anywhere in Vegas" ONLY does ic, Avoid nasty Naomi, I mean Nasty NO! Owe me. https://callescort.org/702-504-9845.

2nd-Cocksucker Latina Jennifer, East of the Strip, I saw her a couple years ago, agreed to time donation & exactly what I wanted. Got super rushed 1/2 the time we agreed to & BS, she wanted a break to smoke not tobbacco, once she started her cloud break, she couldn't stop, got dressed asking me to return in an hour. I don't need to say what happened when I tried to return, So I also contacted her from new #, she was very positive at first, & I was ready right then, & would have went if. And I would have reminded her about our last meeting when she wanted the flowers. That would be nice & I suspect sooner or later that will happen, but not on the 1st, so I needed some info where are the cross streets, she had agreed to pretty much all, but didn't give incall area, she did keep texting more or less bs but never answering my question about where to go. But she kept textng for 4 hours before ghosting, again, had I expected to actually see her, I;d be pretty pissed.

https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...egas/57355944/

These BEE otch iss really need to respect that OUR time is valuable.

They don't care about our time at all. They are relying on the endless supply of tourists who accept poor service here.

[MobyCock]

**I am not race ist*.

**I am NOT targeting or against any race or color*.

**I am against any one of any color who is deceptive in advertising*.

**this is no criticism of Marco*.

Some of you have probably noticed that on LC Alligator Mega. Many ladies lighten there pictures & don't look like themselves their ethnicity or AA if AA on first glance. Without other shots fairly can be hard to determine what ethnicity they may be at all. I don't care what color a hooker is, we all have preferences, but altering pictures in that way has only one purpose and that is deception. If any lady is starting off deceptive, I pass. I don't expect them to say real name age or that but something you can't hide or lie about, when you meet you will immediately see, if you thought you were not meeting an AA it is an AA, yes girl in the pics, but not exactly what you were expecting. Bs another hooker hustle.

Please avoid at all cost she goes By Bamm Aka bambi her pictures make her look way better but she is hideous. Agreed on an hour after 20 min and 160 donation. She's started to complain and was avoiding me to slide in all the way. She is a complete buzz kill and will take your donation for nothing. She is darker in person makes her pics lighter, she stinks, her hair is nappy and had fried chicken bits on her face from raising canes. Has a bad attitude along with saggy doggy tits. You've been warned https://escortalligator.com.listcraw...egas/57370664/#.

[Chuck4]

"She is a complete buzz kill and will take your donation for nothing."

Did you thank her for taking your money or did you get it back?