Korean Agency BB

[Toungsten]

Maybe I'm in minority, but how and when I give money for the session is completely irrelevant to me.

Two of my ATFs:

One always wanted the donation asap.

The other never even touched or looked at the money I put on the bedstand, with me in the room.

Both amazing k-women.

In all my years of hobbying there have been virtually no occasions where the donation was asked for up front. If it happened two or three times that would be a lot for me. Just my experience. Maybe because I enter as a trusted customer but it has been that way from the beginning.

[RocketManP]

Maybe I'm in minority, but how and when I give money for the session is completely irrelevant to me.

Two of my ATFs:

One always wanted the donation asap.

The other never even touched or looked at the money I put on the bedstand, with me in the room.

Both amazing k-women.

[TheAbc]

Avoid both unless you into 40's plus. Plastic surgery did not do enough for the 2. That specific org uses fake photos. Don't trust any of it. At least with some orgs there is some similar facial profile.

Rain and Hana is the best we will ever get and it comes once every 3 to 4 years.

If you want younger go on seeking arrange and bb the 20's for 400 but it will require some time and work and you have to put in 10 minutes a day to start the useless chit chat banter dance for several months before you land a 20 yr old that will bb you weekly. But once you get the plate rotation going its pretty worth it. Make them meet you at your schedule and place.

The third alternative is to go to Tj and drive several hours but you'll see quality better than the Korean organization, Hana is the exception.

Thanks for the info on Casey. I was thinking of going this week but I knew the pics were too good to be true. This agency is like the Palace and they look like they only stock older milfs hence the non upcharge. I really miss young talent with skill. Rain was one of the best in recent years. I've seen some since she left and maybe 1-2 were close in terms of both looks and service. Until this shit blows over, the scene is just upcharges, milfs and recycled girls.

[DHorn420]

I saw high end escorts before seeing Kgirls. So out of habit, I always lay out the money first. I do this now with Kgirls and 70-80% of the time when they see the donation first, their shoulders drop and are more relaxed. Does it make the service better? Shit if I know since I've been doing this since day 1 of seeing Kgirls LOL I've never paid after the session is over and wouldn't want, not sure what girls might have anxiety over not getting paid first or having that client run off because he didn't like the experience and is not going to pay anything in the end LOL so for me, lay it out then it'll be out of sight, out of mind and pure fun from that point on.

I am throwing it out there that asking for and / or verifying donation first has always been SOP in this hobby, especially outside of kgirls. The safety and security afforded by the kgirl model has mitigated a lot of the horrible outcomes you sometimes come across or hear about. As a matter of fact, it's been so successful to the point that money can be verified after the fact, out of sight and out of mind. Usually and unfortunately, if they verify first then something must of happened to institute this practice.

I just don't want mongers to equate and conflate verifying donation first as a foreshadowing of bad service. It could or could not. But if it does turn out bad, false equivalence and confirmation bias may be incorrectly established and applied. Logically, how exactly does the act of counting money in any way inform you of how a girl is going to perform?

[Kent747]

Wow, I've never seen M without anyone. Dying out like the palace?

Once girls establish themselves and deveop business connections, they realize that they can be indies with multiple bookers and sub rent apartments from various sources. Without M or other owners, girls can pocket that extra $80-120 to themselves. The reason there are a lot of same girls in different sites now is because they work as indies with multiple bookers. Before covid/closure of CV, girls exclusively were attached to just one booker and/or house.

[BrownPoopBB]

Avoid both unless you into 40's plus. Plastic surgery did not do enough for the 2. That specific org uses fake photos. Don't trust any of it. At least with some orgs there is some similar facial profile.

Rain and Hana is the best we will ever get and it comes once every 3 to 4 years.

If you want younger go on seeking arrange and bb the 20's for 400 but it will require some time and work and you have to put in 10 minutes a day to start the useless chit chat banter dance for several months before you land a 20 yr old that will bb you weekly. But once you get the plate rotation going its pretty worth it. Make them meet you at your schedule and place.

The third alternative is to go to Tj and drive several hours but you'll see quality better than the Korean organization, Hana is the exception.

[GoldDust58]

Idk dude, I have no horse in this race but to me it seems that money talks and Ms reputation, as good as it is, is struggling to compete against raw money. It's a quantity vs quality and safety issue, it seems, and it looks like many girls are choosing the former.

Oh for sure. Time will be the judge. Anything can happen. Newcomer org comes around with new young hotties and you will see how the business will change then. It's fickle because the only thing that matters is green paper.

[SsamX007]

Hi, does anyone have intel on Winnie at Ktown?

[Im Yours]

Allie is better in everyday. Period.

I concur with this statement, which was Ivy vs Allie.

Maybe some may think Ivy looks better, but that's subjective. Service wise there isn't even a comparison.

[StopTheMonger]

Older, kinda of bad teeth (smoker? But thinnish MILF. Actually decent sensual service BBBJ, and a lot of body and nipple sucking action. I wouldn't recommend, but can be an alternative option at in the 280/300 crew.

[RocketManP]

No. You are underestimating the strength of their client list. Many of their customers are not on forums. Sure they will travel to see other girls but they are guys who are consistent mongers who see girls a few times a week. If a new very good girl shows up at M she will be booked consistently. Hana was made popular because she was at M first and 80% of her regulars are M customers. Guys who only see her I'm sure. M regulars have the power to make the girl a star or confirm she is a dud. Not many girls can leave M and flourish elsewhere. M is well known and many Bay Area girls and legends have been through there.

Don't be so angry man. Just see another org. No big deal. Also I've heard from girls at Gray. They only get 3-4 per day and one of you suckers to pay the 420. Remember half their list passed through M.

Idk dude, I have no horse in this race but to me it seems that money talks and Ms reputation, as good as it is, is struggling to compete against raw money. It's a quantity vs quality and safety issue, it seems, and it looks like many girls are choosing the former.

[RocketManP]

I was hoping you'd post a mini from your visit, to provide first hand information on what you think of her.

I didn't know I was supposed to have a mini on her to comment that her reviews are bad.

I try not to see girls who give shitty service, sorry. And reviews are a good source of info about service.

[SsStuntCock]

I actually heard rumors of another popular Bay Area org looking at options down here. They tend to stick to non upcharge model.

If you say LSC I will literally shit myself.

[Toungsten]

M. Nari.

Sunny. Lyn, Joy, Niya, Nuri.

Newtopasian. LA Sera, Min.

Sexy Angels. Sophia, Erika. Emma.

SFK. Alyssa Viki.

PKL. Saki, Ara.

Sesang. Hana.

Angelsinwla. Hana.

KGLA. Haper, Saki, Piper.

[GoldDust58]

LOL she is hard to get in with but she has no shortage of clients. I don't think this has anything to do with her not having business. I think the girls are going to higher paying agencies sadly. $350 with no upcharge for BBFS might be the best new model for M.

I have asked some why they will not come back. They said money. They can make the same money with 2-3 mongers per day. If they went upcharge you would see them all return likely. M should hold on through the ride. When the travel restrictions ease it will be a new day. We will likely see new orgs develop and sticking to the 280/300 price model. Those up charge recycled girls better make their money now, those days will come to an end.

I actually heard rumors of another popular Bay Area org looking at options down here. They tend to stick to non upcharge model. Many of the girls who came to M last year came from Bay Area orgs. Jade (BK Evie), Mini (KGA Love/ BK Mini) Karen (KGA Diamond), Hazel (GFE Alicia), Dior (BK Aini/LSC Daisy), Allie (GSC Nicole), Kendall and Dora doubles (LSC) and many more.