"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

**JoyDrop** · 02-08-21 22:23

Originally Posted by DeterF [View Original Post]

If you find a gem on SA, and she is really is great, you could be in for a serious amount of fun in a lot of ways. I treated these women no differently than I would a date under a "normal" scenario. I chose women who really needed help; who were really striving to succeed and had goals; who weren't looking for Gucci bags, but really to have support for their goals, and have a chance to do something special.

Not sure people think about how much certain women really appreciate this; you can literally help them advance their lives. Believe me, they'll never forget you. I like to help people, and sure it was certainly for me to have that fun, but I wanted to leave these women seeing how they should be respected, appreciated and supported. They would have all done it without me, I am sure; I feel so much satisfaction that there three women have succeeded.

You sound a lot like me, we take the exact same approach to arrangements. Here's a link to a post I made in the Richmond SB thread about a 4 year relationship I had with a girl I met on SA:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...=1#post4307822

A lot of the guys approach the girls on SA like they would any escort or UTR (that is, paying to get laid with zero strings attached). While that's certainly a valid approach, I prefer longer term arrangements that are pretty much indistinguishable from traditional dating. There's just no substitute for the attention, affection and enthusiasm you get from a super hot 20-something who is genuinely into you. Like you, I enjoy helping a hard-working girl reach her goals, and I've found that a little effort invested in the right girl can pay incredible dividends. I've had 3 long term arrangements since 2012. I'm still good friends with all 3 of them. The last one, the girl I was with for 4 years, she really was something special. Almost too good to be true. My experience was exactly like yours in that she was by far the best relationship of my life. We were 20 years apart but I've never been with anyone who was a more perfect fit and it's not even close. Toward the end we did talk about the possibility of staying together. But ultimately she decided she wanted to settle down with someone closer to her own age, and that was definitely the right choice for her (I am married). We shared a lot of great experiences together and we were a big part of each other's lives for quite a while. It was exactly what we both needed at the time. I'm certain she and I will be close for life.

**PunkedLife** · 02-08-21 17:07

I hope none of you are clueless fools like this guy. Because you can buy them all the expensive gifts, vacation resort trips, dinners, allowances and at the end of the day they will still choose to spend your money with the guy who getting it all and more for the free because that's who makes her wet.

https://youtu.be/WZKKBZqKHZg

https://www.ktnv.com/news/kelsey-tur...ntil-next-year

**Gatka** · 02-08-21 13:00

Man the scammers be out there in full force but it is easy to identify if you are asking them the right questions.

**SkyWalker21** · 02-08-21 12:13

Originally Posted by NoswtTea [View Original Post]

Anyone using SDM? The app sucks compared to SA, and it always shows people out of state, but I've had much better luck recently. Less scams / deposits / online only stuff.

I used it for about a year, and had great success. Bagged about 6 chicks off there and still hitting one on occasion. Got busy with this whole pandemic (work in Healthcare), and haven't had the time to play as much.

Skywalker.

**OopaRam** · 02-08-21 11:33

Originally Posted by DocHolliday35 [View Original Post]

Be upfront and honest about what you want. Hide the profiles of girls that are unattractive or don't fit what you want. It takes some time and effort to filter out the scams, fake profiles, and overpriced girls but I have found a few gems who are attracted to me and we agree to terms quickly.

All I say Doc is that You Got Game! Merry Mongering.

**DocHolliday35** · 02-07-21 22:50

Originally Posted by Nallafaltu69 [View Original Post]

SA deactivated my account saying voilation of T & C's. I tried with a diff card and it didn't go. Any suggestions on how to create a new account?

The address of the card probably flagged it. Try sending SA an email apologizing and that you will never do it again. They will re activate you.

**NallaFaltu69** · 02-07-21 18:20

Originally Posted by BubbaLove [View Original Post]

How did you manage to get a discount? By attempting to cancel your membership?

SA deactivated my account saying voilation of T & C's. I tried with a diff card and it didn't go. Any suggestions on how to create a new account?

**Smalto59** · 02-07-21 12:35

Originally Posted by Ngasub20 [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/c7676...9-49705d859174

This one approached me, while certainly not my type, to each their own. Down for pretty much whatever you want, kink-friendly. However, she wants no less than 7 xx per meet, "because of COVID". I guess it's kinda like buying something at the butcher with this one.

WOW dose she charge per pound LOL.

**DocHolliday35** · 02-07-21 09:51

Originally Posted by OopaRam [View Original Post]

I have been reading this forum and found that most of the providers on SA are either scam artists or overprice manipulators. For the price paid per encounter, many other options exist. I just want to know more about the merits of this type of encounters. Someone please enlighten me. PM is welcome.

Be upfront and honest about what you want. Hide the profiles of girls that are unattractive or don't fit what you want. It takes some time and effort to filter out the scams, fake profiles, and overpriced girls but I have found a few gems who are attracted to me and we agree to terms quickly.

**Bubba Love** · 02-06-21 19:24

Originally Posted by Harley32 [View Original Post]

I already got a discount offer from them, 25% off. Of course 75 is still higher than the 67 it would have been with a discount last year.

How did you manage to get a discount? By attempting to cancel your membership?

**DeterF** · 02-06-21 13:28

Originally Posted by Hal1957 [View Original Post]

It's the thrill of the chase, with a greater expectation of success. Why does a guy go sit in a deer stand all day instead of sleeping in and going to a restaurant for dinner? Thrill of the chase. If it's not for you, then it's not for you.

If you go into it acting like a John, you're going to find hookers and scammers. If you set the bar too high, looking for a blonde size 2 fuck bunny with a DD rack, you're going to have to sift through a lot of chaff to find that one pearl.

If you're looking for a young (er) girl / woman who will make time to spend time with you on a regular basis, in return for making her life better, you've come to the right place. Some of the qualities you want to look for are:

Comes from broken home.

Working dead end job like fast food or food service.

Lots of impersonal contact with people she can't connect with.

Single mother.

Now:

Be a nice guy.

Chat her up for a few days before suggesting a meeting. Don't even mention sex unless she brings it up.

Don't discuss money. If she goes straight to the money conversation, she isn't the right one. Keep looking.

Take her someplace nice, a sit-down restaurant that requires reservations where you order from a menu. Order something mid to upper price from the menu so she understands she can do the same.

Encourage her to talk about herself, her life, her goals. No vulgar talk, no bad language. Be a gentleman.

Send / take her home with no discussion of sex.

Send her a note right away that you had a great time.

Wait a day or two, then suggest an overnight at the beach, in the mountains, something that sounds exotic to a woman who's never been spoiled..

I started on SA at the end of 2010, before there were scammers and a lot of media attention. I was 49, and hooked up with a beautiful, smart, fun 21 year old. We met at a nice restaurant, and I did not plan or expect us to hook-up immediately, but there was an awesome connection. Turned out she lived about 4 miles from me, and for about 1200 a month or so, I saw her several times a week, (was married; wife traveled; no kids). We went out to see music, ate. She was awesome, and I am still in touch with her. She has her own business, and lives in FL. Spoke with her 2 weeks ago, she might come visit next weekend. The X and I were relocating back to DC, and she came up there twice.

The next girl, I met in DC. She had never done this before, and was super cautious. We had great email discussions, and I liked her so much that I waited. We exchanged emails for two months (I had a couple of meet and greets during that time). Finally she said she wants to meet. We had two brunches together, and one date at a bar, and then the 4th time, off to the races. She was 23. She was working at a bar in Georgetown and a student at University of Maryland; she was smart; cool; needed help, and was the cute GND. So, we'd meet a couple of times or so a month. She would dress beautiful; we'd go out, and bar to the hotel. We took a weekend blowout trip here to Atlanta; went to the Euclid Ave Yacht Club, Vortex and then back to the high-end hotel, next night out for steak and Clermont Lounge. The issue with her was that there were too many feelings forming, and she said if I was single, she would be all in. We are in touch; she has a Master's degree now and is in practice as therapist in Philly. I woulda married this chick in a heartbeat.

The last and best was a freshman at school in VA, and I was preparing to leave DC finally time to posit up with the X, and had kept in touch with this woman. Short story was there was a 33 year age difference; it was like she was almost 40 years old in spirits. We lived together here as a real couple from 2014-2018, and both our families accepted our relationship. The age difference made it unsustainable, and nature's cruel trick for me is that she by far was the best "fit" for me in my entire life. The time finally came, and she's 26 now; we are close like family and still get together, and I am sure we'll always be close friends.

I chose women that I would "date." The one woman in DC had very strict communication boundaries when we were not together, and I totally respected her. After I left DC, she tried the SD thing a few times, and messaged me on FB telling me that no man had ever treated her so respectfully, kindly, etc. She wrote a very sweet and loving email.

I think it's true, if you find a gem on SA, and she is really is great, you could be in for a serious amount of fun in a lot of ways. I treated these women no differently than I would a date under a "normal" scenario. I chose women who really needed help; who were really striving to succeed and had goals; who weren't looking for Gucci bags, but really to have support for their goals, and have a chance to do something special. The woman in DC loved the Beatles and Paul McCartney. He came to DC, ad I texted her one day, telling her that I have two tickets, and they are good seats. She called me right way almost crying. She could have never afforded this on her own.

Not sure people think about how much certain women really appreciate this; you can literally help them advance their lives. Believe me, they'll never forget you. I like to help people, and sure it was certainly for me to have that fun, but I wanted to leave these women seeing how they should be respected, appreciated and supported. They would have all done it without me, I am sure; I feel so much satisfaction that there three women have succeeded. OF course, I played only a tiny role in their lives, with the exception of the one with whom I lived.

**LoriTruck** · 02-06-21 10:36

Originally Posted by BadNewsBear [View Original Post]

She hit me up 3 days ago, wants 350 per meet but will probably go lower, she doesn't host and says she wants something consistent. She was extremely anxious to meet up this weekend, I told her I had major plans because of the super bowl so I couldn't meet.

Thanks, this helps. I have about 5 lined up this weekend but I have only about an 8 hour window. If I can do process of elimination, and skip the ones that are as high as camel couchie and don't host then I've done good.

**BadNewsBear** · 02-06-21 04:44

Originally Posted by LoriTruck [View Original Post]

https://www.seeking.com/member/79318...0-514f30e7d175

Any info? Looks familiar, as in someone reviewed her here. Got a meet and greet this weekend.

She hit me up 3 days ago, wants 350 per meet but will probably go lower, she doesn't host and says she wants something consistent. She was extremely anxious to meet up this weekend, I told her I had major plans because of the super bowl so I couldn't meet.

**LoriTruck** · 02-06-21 00:18

https://www.seeking.com/member/79318...0-514f30e7d175

Any info? Looks familiar, as in someone reviewed her here. Got a meet and greet this weekend.

**Machintosh** · 02-05-21 20:59

Originally Posted by SgtSoros [View Original Post]

More power to you Sir. If it's pay to play, I do not have the time or patience to go through this relationship merry go round unless I'm looking to hook up with a future wife and it ain't happening anytime soon.

Half the work and effort still pays dividends. The milage WILL vary.