BBFS Providers Manhattan

[Abimahajan]

So I wanted to give an update to put everyone on alert. I know this isn't an SA / SB thread, but this isn't strictly related to just that. Also it doesn't appear there's a thread for that topic in the Manhattan forum anyway. But I digress:

So there's apparently a series of Tik Tok videos out there put out by a girl who's used SA to scam and she essentially explains what we all already knew; they're using the pandemic as a way to convince you to give up your dollars in advance with the promise of meeting at a future date when it's safer. I'm not saying that everyone on there is lying when they tell you they're taking care of someone who's at risk or a similar story, I'm saying it's impossible to tell who is and who isn't and who plans on honoring the promise of meeting in the future. It's also impossible atm to really know when this pandemic will be over, as we haven't even gotten through the first wave yet. So the whole premise of pay now for an online arrangement to establish trust and meet later is total bullshit.

I had such good experiences outside America on SA. It is not worth here, I heard lot of guys / girls create a fake profile to scam men in America. I would avoid SA in america, 2 years back I had found some great girls, I would avoid completely for time being and also report profile. It is waste of $90.

[Arkhan76]

Is gina BBFS friendly? Or anal? Thinking of seeing her.

At least from what she texted me, and I've seen her.

[BBPornoGeek]

Is gina BBFS friendly? Or anal? Thinking of seeing her.

Gina is all that a more. Best fucking experience you'll get. Pretty much anything goes with her.

[UncleThrax]

Is gina BBFS friendly? Or anal? Thinking of seeing her.

She does just about everything and is quite open about. Which is why she's the gold standard by which all others are measured.

[SexVoyager]

Still bareback. Have creampie her this year.

I mean the model Taylor.

[JohnnyBones23]

I guess I've been lucky that I've only had good experiences with EROS. For 4-6 I've met far more attractive and fairly young.

To mid-age providers off of EROS that provided Gina Rollins level service.

Anyone I met for 800 and above were porn stars or at least looked like porn stars.

Whole reason I went to Lears was to test my luck and see if I could get the total package (looks, presentation, and Gina are level service with all options) for significantly less than 4 (like 250. Or. 3). From what you're telling me it's hit or miss. Such is the struggle of bottom fishing I guess.

Is gina BBFS friendly? Or anal? Thinking of seeing her.

[SexVoyager]

Still bareback. Have creampie her this year.

[DudeNuts]

With phase 3 starting tomorrow, KKP will now consider new clients. You must call and talk to the MMS, she may or may not make an appointment for you based on the conversation.

I think I've read before that hana and julie are BBFS friendly or is that YMMV? I'm probably like the 10 thmilion guy asking a repeated question LOL sry.

[UncleThrax]

So I wanted to give an update to put everyone on alert. I know this isn't an SA / SB thread, but this isn't strictly related to just that. Also it doesn't appear there's a thread for that topic in the Manhattan forum anyway. But I digress:

So there's apparently a series of Tik Tok videos out there put out by a girl who's used SA to scam and she essentially explains what we all already knew; they're using the pandemic as a way to convince you to give up your dollars in advance with the promise of meeting at a future date when it's safer. I'm not saying that everyone on there is lying when they tell you they're taking care of someone who's at risk or a similar story, I'm saying it's impossible to tell who is and who isn't and who plans on honoring the promise of meeting in the future. It's also impossible atm to really know when this pandemic will be over, as we haven't even gotten through the first wave yet. So the whole premise of pay now for an online arrangement to establish trust and meet later is total bullshit.

There's also a different scam, that's probably been around for a while but seems way more prevalent now (and this is how it relates to the BBFS forum):

You iron out an arrangement, usually for a ppm rate that's way too good to be true (200 or below). They tell you whatever you want to hear (I totally do X,why, Z, I can host, etc.) You set the time and date and when the date arrives, hours or even minutes before, they'll make something up about how they need you to send them money in advance. There's several different excuses they'll use:

- "Need money for the Uber". When you suggest that you'll send them an Uber if they provide an address they'll say that they don't feel safe or make something up about not wanting to give out their address. When you tell them "just pick an address nearby to meet the Uber at so you don't have to worry about giving out your address", you'll get crickets. The goal here is to convince you to send them money thinking that they'll be on their way once you do. Obviously that doesn't happen.

- "I'm x minutes away, I need you to send me something digitally so I know you're serious, I've been scammed before. ": You mean to tell me that you willingly made the trip out knowing that you could be potentially wasting your time and only decided to institute this test RIGHT before you walked to the door? The goal here is to make you feel pressured into thinking that if you just do this one thing right now, they'll be right there in a few minutes. When you stop and analyze the situation with your bigger head, it becomes clear it's a scam.

-" I need you to send me something so I know I'm safe": How exactly does sending digital payment for some chunk change correlate with safety? Response: "Well we can just meet in a public place first with lots of cameras and people around. Once I see you face to face sitting in front of me, I can (venmo, cashapp, paypal, whatever) you on the spot. " Of course they'll come up with some other flimsy excuse.

I'm probably preaching to the choir here, but it seems like this needs to be highlighted because there's way more of it going on now. It's one thing to send a deposit to a reputable pro who's reputation is at risk if they scam (and I know most mongers here are against that too, that's a different discussion), but there's absolutely NO reason to send anything in advance to someone you've never met before. Period.

Apparently it's gotten so bad that even on SA, there's now a warning right above the message bar that literally tells you to never give out sensitive financial info or send any kind of digital payment in advance to someone you've never met (I'm guessing SBs have been scammed on there top).

Stay safe and stay smart mongers.

[UncleThrax]

I make notes of chicks in case my dick tries to fuck with my memory.

My first visit to Lears, the chick's pussy stank. Which obviously sucked, but also she seemed cool, which sucked more.

Second visit was amazing with another chick.

Third chick was Emma Grace! She definitely would've fucked up their business. That was the first time I walked in and immediately wanted to leave. Of course I didn't like a jackass. All around bad experience. Didn't bother complaining, because the line / connection with Lears was more important than anything they may have done. I actually just wanted to let him know so others don't get turned off, but didn't. Figure I'll stay in my lane as he seems to come off as dickish sometimes in text.

After that I actually saw an indie chick. She was ok, but service was great! Went back to Lears for one chick. She was "tired" from the day. So 1. I don't want a chick who's been fucked all day tired and 2. If she's legit just tired, she's going to be a drag.

Saw someone else. English was a second language, but passable. Gorgeous, but her bedside manner was meh.

Then back to same indie chick. Then back to Lears.

He's got some good chicks, any for the most part it gets the job done, so.

For $400. - $600. Though, you should be able to get some good providers!

Then again my friend paid an indie $800. From EROS (first mistake). He wanted American not European (nothing against them, he just had many of them already and wanted homegrown). Her demeanor sucked, was hesitant on everything service wise, and her pussy stank! I think he tried to finish with a handy, couldn't and just told her to leave.

I guess I've been lucky that I've only had good experiences with EROS. For 4-6 I've met far more attractive and fairly young.

To mid-age providers off of EROS that provided Gina Rollins level service.

Anyone I met for 800 and above were porn stars or at least looked like porn stars.

Whole reason I went to Lears was to test my luck and see if I could get the total package (looks, presentation, and Gina are level service with all options) for significantly less than 4 (like 250. Or. 3). From what you're telling me it's hit or miss. Such is the struggle of bottom fishing I guess.

[HeroesBlend]

After my experience there with Emma Grace, I never tried them again. I might be wrong on this but I've always had a sneaking suspicion that just like with a Chinese takeout menu that's TGTBT, the pictures of the food always look way better than the food itself.

I make notes of chicks in case my dick tries to fuck with my memory.

My first visit to Lears, the chick's pussy stank. Which obviously sucked, but also she seemed cool, which sucked more.

Second visit was amazing with another chick.

Third chick was Emma Grace! She definitely would've fucked up their business. That was the first time I walked in and immediately wanted to leave. Of course I didn't like a jackass. All around bad experience. Didn't bother complaining, because the line / connection with Lears was more important than anything they may have done. I actually just wanted to let him know so others don't get turned off, but didn't. Figure I'll stay in my lane as he seems to come off as dickish sometimes in text.

After that I actually saw an indie chick. She was ok, but service was great! Went back to Lears for one chick. She was "tired" from the day. So 1. I don't want a chick who's been fucked all day tired and 2. If she's legit just tired, she's going to be a drag.

Saw someone else. English was a second language, but passable. Gorgeous, but her bedside manner was meh.

Then back to same indie chick. Then back to Lears.

He's got some good chicks, any for the most part it gets the job done, so.

For $400. - $600. Though, you should be able to get some good providers!

Then again my friend paid an indie $800. From EROS (first mistake). He wanted American not European (nothing against them, he just had many of them already and wanted homegrown). Her demeanor sucked, was hesitant on everything service wise, and her pussy stank! I think he tried to finish with a handy, couldn't and just told her to leave.

[Chief5665]

Seems like most providers right now are only seeing regulars, if at all, bc of CV. I don't really do AMPs but it seems like that's the trend everywhere ATM. Depending on whether or not the infection rate drops, you might start to see some loosening of that in the coming months.

With phase 3 starting tomorrow, KKP will now consider new clients. You must call and talk to the MMS, she may or may not make an appointment for you based on the conversation.

[Masoko23]

Is she only seeing regulars or can new people make an appointment?

I had actually tried to schedule a session with her at the end of Feb. But she texted me back saying she was on vacation till April.

She is back in the city. She told me her tatget return date is July 15 pending the corona situation.

[UncleThrax]

Any info on any ladies doing it who's donations are 400 to 600 range? BDJ or EPA or ladiestonight.com ? Lear Talent current line up seems bottom of the barrel and some likely in suspicious health.

After my experience there with Emma Grace, I never tried them again. I might be wrong on this but I've always had a sneaking suspicion that just like with a Chinese takeout menu that's TGTBT, the pictures of the food always look way better than the food itself.

[DudeNuts]

Doctor Lisa is back. Anxious to see her again after the epic double we had with the queen of kink Gina.

Is she only seeing regulars or can new people make an appointment?

I had actually tried to schedule a session with her at the end of Feb. But she texted me back saying she was on vacation till April.