LA LA Land Bullshit and Fight Club

[Jedi69]

I doubt it. And Phyre is still there. Just that account is gone. Safe411 is still there.
Hula made phyre the mod for the (ahem) Safety club. Hard to imagine a poorer choice and it says something about judgment. The fact that phyre self-ejected instead of being booted should tell you something too.ColossusJones, Douchiffir1, iTwerks, Ego, Butt, and a few dozen other guys of that ilk who spend their days on the site and have predominantly male networks are still around too. If burnsie didn't already have another account on that site, he does now.

Tell me who your friends are and I will tell you who you are. The fact Hulakong surrounded himself with members whose network is a sausage fest says a lot about him and his cronies. The way this gang replies to each other on the blogs is like a circle jerk except there is no chick in the center. Totally gay OMG. And they all think they are wise and funny.

[Edward Appleby]

Good riddance. This jackhole self-ejected after accusing several innocent members of being the same guy named FiredMedic. Hulakong called him out and said they weren't. Problem is this self-anointed judge / jury / executioner has been doing this for many years. Accusing many people of being alter egos of an account without any proof. Looks like Hx is also terminating his horde of white knights, starting with his #1 fan and BFF burnsie1169.

Good things up ahead for Hx now that the toxic atmosphere created by phyremedic is finally getting sanitized.

I doubt it. And Phyre is still there. Just that account is gone. Safe411 is still there.

Hula made phyre the mod for the (ahem) Safety club. Hard to imagine a poorer choice and it says something about judgment. The fact that phyre self-ejected instead of being booted should tell you something too.

ColossusJones, Douchiffir1, iTwerks, Ego, Butt, and a few dozen other guys of that ilk who spend their days on the site and have predominantly male networks are still around too. If burnsie didn't already have another account on that site, he does now.

[Jack926]

There may be a lot more cases, in China, that were not reported so fatality rate could be a lot lower than 2-3%.

Newly released article-South Korea virus cases surge as who sounds maximum alert.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/south-kor...034009720.html

The stopper for this virus is hot weather.

[BBNovice2018]

There may be a lot more cases, in China, that were not reported so fatality rate could be a lot lower than 2-3%.

COVID 19 that is coming out of Wuhan and spreading is 2-3% fatal.

The common flu is also a Corona Virus and 0. 1% fatal.

The common cold is also a Corona Virus, and is 100% gross and annoying.

[Jedi69]

Good riddance. This jackhole self-ejected after accusing several innocent members of being the same guy named FiredMedic. Hulakong called him out and said they weren't. Problem is this self-anointed judge / jury / executioner has been doing this for many years. Accusing many people of being alter egos of an account without any proof. Looks like Hx is also terminating his horde of white knights, starting with his #1 fan and BFF burnsie1169.

Good things up ahead for Hx now that the toxic atmosphere created by phyremedic is finally getting sanitized.

[KingsFoil]

More importantly, anyone notice a pullback in quality of service with coronavirus in the wild? Like less willingness to kiss and swap spit?

Corona is only 0. 2% deadly, so I'm not really concerned.

COVID 19 that is coming out of Wuhan and spreading is 2-3% fatal.

The common flu is also a Corona Virus and 0. 1% fatal.

The common cold is also a Corona Virus, and is 100% gross and annoying.

[DasBunka]

At the end of the day your entire post assumes that people the world over think like Americans, they don't. Especially Asians, I spend a fuckload of time in Asia and tipping isn't a thing. You will get way better service by making them laugh than you ever will by handing them more money.

Here's the problem. Today the price is X so you lay a 20% tip on them. People from non tipping cultures never really get tips. They don't really put it together that "I did well, so he gave me money" they put it together like this "He just paid me 20% more money than I asked for, I need to raise the price by 20% because obviously I'm priced too low. " Then the price goes up and you tip again, price goes up. I have never, not once, every tipped a hooker in Asia and I consistently get great service.

You need to cool your fucking jets. I moved this post from a review thread, if you post something like this on a review thread again you're gone.

This is my take because every time this "paying more money than they are asking" thing comes up some American guy (and only American guys) says something like this.

"Just imagine yourself, as a girl, in her place. Wouldn't you want to be paid more for giving up bare pussy or wouldn't you appreciate a tip for your hard work? You would honestly treat clients the same, if one never tipped and the other one always did? I ain't trying to white-knight shit".

Truth is, you think their job sucks because you have been socialized to feel bad about sex. I know you're going to argue you don't but it's pretty obvious you do. You say you're not white knighting but you are. It's not hard work, they are fucking and making shit tons of money doing it. Slopping fucking pigs is hard work. Shoveling shit is hard work. Working on a mushroom farm, hard work, chicken plants, really hard, nasty fucking work. They are working in an air conditioned environment, shooting the shit with their coworkers until they have to go have sex with some guy. You feel bad because you have been told to feel bad and you give them extra money so you don't feel so bad, you're buying off your guilt.

I've been in the third world for a long time. Only in the first world is having voluntary sex with somebody you might otherwise not want to fuck considered hard work. It's only considered hard work because women have been taught that men cannot have guilt free sex, they need to pay, a lot, every time.

Do what you want, it's your money, but know why you're doing it.

I know you're going to be compelled to write some post explaining why I'm wrong and you're a liberated guy who doesn't blah blah blah. You're not moderated, I'll never see it, and I already know I'm right. I've seen a thousand guys like you do this all over the world and the story is always the same. It's first world guilt, nothing more.

A2.

Actually some good points.

[Admin2]

If tips are exclusively for low wage earners, then would you still feel obligated tip workers that earn moderate to high wages? For example, a massage therapist, boutique hairdresser or bartender / server in a high-end restaurant can easily earn $75 - $100 per hour or more. But because it can be argued that these folks are earning too much money per hour, do you feel justified to not tip them? We don't tip doctors or lawyers because it isn't customary to do so, just as we don't tip fast food workers even if they're minimum wage. Some service industries get tips while others don't. I've never heard of a sex worker insulted by a tip but I have heard many wh_res say they were insulted by lack of a tip (especially if they're providing extras like bareback). Some girls even stop giving BB because they are not incentivized to continue. And then some No-Tip wh_remongers wonder why so-and-so changed her menu or what a shame so-and-so is strictly covered nowadays. Inconsequential my ass. Do you really think that extra money has absolutely no correlation whatsoever to a girl's mindset? Money has nothing to do with her cost benefit analysis or risk to reward? As we all know, some girls will BB without asking for a tip, other girls will not BB unless you make sure to tip upfront, but my guess is that every girl, no matter whether she says so or not, wants extra money because it's human nature to want more money. Just imagine yourself, as a girl, in her place. Wouldn't you want to be paid more for giving up bare pussy or wouldn't you appreciate a tip for your hard work? You would honestly treat clients the same, if one never tipped and the other one always did? I ain't trying to white-knight shit, ain't trying to be right or tell you you're wrong, ain't going to convince anyone to do anything with his money. Yeah, let's all organize the first American Wh_reMongers Union and boycott girls to stop runaway price increases in LA. Yeah, let's all unite against tips for bare service, because bookers and girls somehow won't know they can charge extra for it and we all got to keep that shit secret. You guys keep telling yourselves what you want to believe. I tip because I think it does make a difference, because I have had evidence of success, and I know girls that were / are under the radar for bare tips that would never be a Go without it. But then again, maybe I don't know shit. TBH, I rather you not tip so there's less likelihood of more diseased cocks all up in these chicks. Tippers vs. No-Tippers, I think we can agree that we don't agree, and as always, YMMV.

At the end of the day your entire post assumes that people the world over think like Americans, they don't. Especially Asians, I spend a fuckload of time in Asia and tipping isn't a thing. You will get way better service by making them laugh than you ever will by handing them more money.

I think some of you guys have it all wrong on the tipping. If you have extra money and had a good time with a provider, what's so hard about forking out extra cash to show appreciation? It's american culture to tip. Of course, if you have a below average time with a below average girl I don't think there is a need to tip. But if you had a better than average time with a cute girl and have cash to spend, then I say tip the girl to keep them happy and help keep them working in LA.

Here's the problem. Today the price is X so you lay a 20% tip on them. People from non tipping cultures never really get tips. They don't really put it together that "I did well, so he gave me money" they put it together like this "He just paid me 20% more money than I asked for, I need to raise the price by 20% because obviously I'm priced too low. " Then the price goes up and you tip again, price goes up. I have never, not once, every tipped a hooker in Asia and I consistently get great service.

Nothing against tipping but to those that complain about price increases or get mad at those who can afford to tip, you guys sound like cheap fucks and that shit makes you weak as shit. Save up to see your favorite girl, find someone cheaper or get yourself another hobby altogether. And to those complaining about the price discrepancy between LA and SF and how it's cheaper over there, that there is more suppose BB and whatever dick sucking praise you give to the orgs operating there, move your ass up to that City and stay there if it means that much.

You need to cool your fucking jets. I moved this post from a review thread, if you post something like this on a review thread again you're gone.

This is my take because every time this "paying more money than they are asking" thing comes up some American guy (and only American guys) says something like this.

"Just imagine yourself, as a girl, in her place. Wouldn't you want to be paid more for giving up bare pussy or wouldn't you appreciate a tip for your hard work? You would honestly treat clients the same, if one never tipped and the other one always did? I ain't trying to white-knight shit".

Truth is, you think their job sucks because you have been socialized to feel bad about sex. I know you're going to argue you don't but it's pretty obvious you do. You say you're not white knighting but you are. It's not hard work, they are fucking and making shit tons of money doing it. Slopping fucking pigs is hard work. Shoveling shit is hard work. Working on a mushroom farm, hard work, chicken plants, really hard, nasty fucking work. They are working in an air conditioned environment, shooting the shit with their coworkers until they have to go have sex with some guy. You feel bad because you have been told to feel bad and you give them extra money so you don't feel so bad, you're buying off your guilt.

I've been in the third world for a long time. Only in the first world is having voluntary sex with somebody you might otherwise not want to fuck considered hard work. It's only considered hard work because women have been taught that men cannot have guilt free sex, they need to pay, a lot, every time.

Do what you want, it's your money, but know why you're doing it.

I know you're going to be compelled to write some post explaining why I'm wrong and you're a liberated guy who doesn't blah blah blah. You're not moderated, I'll never see it, and I already know I'm right. I've seen a thousand guys like you do this all over the world and the story is always the same. It's first world guilt, nothing more.

A2.

[The Real Cost]

If tips are exclusively for low wage earners, then would you still feel obligated tip workers that earn moderate to high wages? For example, a massage therapist, boutique hairdresser or bartender / server in a high-end restaurant can easily earn $75 - $100 per hour or more. But because it can be argued that these folks are earning too much money per hour, do you feel justified to not tip them? We don't tip doctors or lawyers because it isn't customary to do so, just as we don't tip fast food workers even if they're minimum wage. Some service industries get tips while others don't. I've never heard of a sex worker insulted by a tip but I have heard many wh_res say they were insulted by lack of a tip (especially if they're providing extras like bareback). Some girls even stop giving BB because they are not incentivized to continue. And then some No-Tip wh_remongers wonder why so-and-so changed her menu or what a shame so-and-so is strictly covered nowadays. Inconsequential my ass. Do you really think that extra money has absolutely no correlation whatsoever to a girl's mindset? Money has nothing to do with her cost benefit analysis or risk to reward? As we all know, some girls will BB without asking for a tip, other girls will not BB unless you make sure to tip upfront, but my guess is that every girl, no matter whether she says so or not, wants extra money because it's human nature to want more money. Just imagine yourself, as a girl, in her place. Wouldn't you want to be paid more for giving up bare pussy or wouldn't you appreciate a tip for your hard work? You would honestly treat clients the same, if one never tipped and the other one always did? I ain't trying to white-knight shit, ain't trying to be right or tell you you're wrong, ain't going to convince anyone to do anything with his money. Yeah, let's all organize the first American Wh_reMongers Union and boycott girls to stop runaway price increases in LA. Yeah, let's all unite against tips for bare service, because bookers and girls somehow won't know they can charge extra for it and we all got to keep that shit secret. You guys keep telling yourselves what you want to believe. I tip because I think it does make a difference, because I have had evidence of success, and I know girls that were / are under the radar for bare tips that would never be a Go without it. But then again, maybe I don't know shit.Tippers vs. No-Tippers, I think we can agree that we don't agree, and as always, YMMV.

If I wanted to give a chick more of my money than necessary I'd get a girlfriend.

[Kreme69]

If tips are exclusively for low wage earners, then would you still feel obligated tip workers that earn moderate to high wages? For example, a massage therapist, boutique hairdresser or bartender / server in a high-end restaurant can easily earn $75 - $100 per hour or more. But because it can be argued that these folks are earning too much money per hour, do you feel justified to not tip them? We don't tip doctors or lawyers because it isn't customary to do so, just as we don't tip fast food workers even if they're minimum wage. Some service industries get tips while others don't. I've never heard of a sex worker insulted by a tip but I have heard many wh_res say they were insulted by lack of a tip (especially if they're providing extras like bareback). Some girls even stop giving BB because they are not incentivized to continue. And then some No-Tip wh_remongers wonder why so-and-so changed her menu or what a shame so-and-so is strictly covered nowadays. Inconsequential my ass. Do you really think that extra money has absolutely no correlation whatsoever to a girl's mindset? Money has nothing to do with her cost benefit analysis or risk to reward? As we all know, some girls will BB without asking for a tip, other girls will not BB unless you make sure to tip upfront, but my guess is that every girl, no matter whether she says so or not, wants extra money because it's human nature to want more money. Just imagine yourself, as a girl, in her place. Wouldn't you want to be paid more for giving up bare pussy or wouldn't you appreciate a tip for your hard work? You would honestly treat clients the same, if one never tipped and the other one always did? I ain't trying to white-knight shit, ain't trying to be right or tell you you're wrong, ain't going to convince anyone to do anything with his money. Yeah, let's all organize the first American Wh_reMongers Union and boycott girls to stop runaway price increases in LA. Yeah, let's all unite against tips for bare service, because bookers and girls somehow won't know they can charge extra for it and we all got to keep that shit secret. You guys keep telling yourselves what you want to believe. I tip because I think it does make a difference, because I have had evidence of success, and I know girls that were / are under the radar for bare tips that would never be a Go without it. But then again, maybe I don't know shit. Tippers vs. No-Tippers, I think we can agree that we don't agree, and as always, YMMV.

That's a long rant about tipping LOL. So for short, tipping to you is a sense of duty for extra service kinda like what I said about nuru menu. Aight. I get what you saying. Like I said though. Not many have deep pockets as you. The problem of tipping right now is it justifies the these agencies to hike their prices. Well as you mentioned agree to disagree. My main point and some others here is that tipping have high chance of driving cost up, which is happening already. In any case, as long as their are alternatives like Bay area and OC, I'm good.

[Toungsten]

If tips are exclusively for low wage earners, then would you still feel obligated tip workers that earn moderate to high wages? For example, a massage therapist, boutique hairdresser or bartender / server in a high-end restaurant can easily earn $75 - $100 per hour or more. But because it can be argued that these folks are earning too much money per hour, do you feel justified to not tip them? We don't tip doctors or lawyers because it isn't customary to do so, just as we don't tip fast food workers even if they're minimum wage. Some service industries get tips while others don't. I've never heard of a sex worker insulted by a tip but I have heard many wh_res say they were insulted by lack of a tip (especially if they're providing extras like bareback). Some girls even stop giving BB because they are not incentivized to continue. And then some No-Tip wh_remongers wonder why so-and-so changed her menu or what a shame so-and-so is strictly covered nowadays. Inconsequential my ass. Do you really think that extra money has absolutely no correlation whatsoever to a girl's mindset? Money has nothing to do with her cost benefit analysis or risk to reward? As we all know, some girls will BB without asking for a tip, other girls will not BB unless you make sure to tip upfront, but my guess is that every girl, no matter whether she says so or not, wants extra money because it's human nature to want more money. Just imagine yourself, as a girl, in her place. Wouldn't you want to be paid more for giving up bare pussy or wouldn't you appreciate a tip for your hard work? You would honestly treat clients the same, if one never tipped and the other one always did? I ain't trying to white-knight shit, ain't trying to be right or tell you you're wrong, ain't going to convince anyone to do anything with his money. Yeah, let's all organize the first American Wh_reMongers Union and boycott girls to stop runaway price increases in LA. Yeah, let's all unite against tips for bare service, because bookers and girls somehow won't know they can charge extra for it and we all got to keep that shit secret. You guys keep telling yourselves what you want to believe. I tip because I think it does make a difference, because I have had evidence of success, and I know girls that were / are under the radar for bare tips that would never be a Go without it. But then again, maybe I don't know shit.Tippers vs. No-Tippers, I think we can agree that we don't agree, and as always, YMMV.

None of the above make the $150 and more per hour and more that a provider makes. Add to that my personal experience and it has been rare for a good number of years that I would have to use a cover. Just saying.

[DHorn420]

Nothing against tipping but to those that complain about price increases or get mad at those who can afford to tip, you guys sound like cheap fucks and that shit makes you weak as shit. Save up to see your favorite girl, find someone cheaper or get yourself another hobby altogether. And to those complaining about the price discrepancy between LA and SF and how it's cheaper over there, that there is more suppose BB and whatever dick sucking praise you give to the orgs operating there, move your ass up to that City and stay there if it means that much.

If tips are exclusively for low wage earners, then would you still feel obligated tip workers that earn moderate to high wages? For example, a massage therapist, boutique hairdresser or bartender / server in a high-end restaurant can easily earn $75 - $100 per hour or more. But because it can be argued that these folks are earning too much money per hour, do you feel justified to not tip them? We don't tip doctors or lawyers because it isn't customary to do so, just as we don't tip fast food workers even if they're minimum wage. Some service industries get tips while others don't. I've never heard of a sex worker insulted by a tip but I have heard many wh_res say they were insulted by lack of a tip (especially if they're providing extras like bareback). Some girls even stop giving BB because they are not incentivized to continue. And then some No-Tip wh_remongers wonder why so-and-so changed her menu or what a shame so-and-so is strictly covered nowadays. Inconsequential my ass. Do you really think that extra money has absolutely no correlation whatsoever to a girl's mindset? Money has nothing to do with her cost benefit analysis or risk to reward? As we all know, some girls will BB without asking for a tip, other girls will not BB unless you make sure to tip upfront, but my guess is that every girl, no matter whether she says so or not, wants extra money because it's human nature to want more money. Just imagine yourself, as a girl, in her place. Wouldn't you want to be paid more for giving up bare pussy or wouldn't you appreciate a tip for your hard work? You would honestly treat clients the same, if one never tipped and the other one always did? I ain't trying to white-knight shit, ain't trying to be right or tell you you're wrong, ain't going to convince anyone to do anything with his money. Yeah, let's all organize the first American Wh_reMongers Union and boycott girls to stop runaway price increases in LA. Yeah, let's all unite against tips for bare service, because bookers and girls somehow won't know they can charge extra for it and we all got to keep that shit secret. You guys keep telling yourselves what you want to believe. I tip because I think it does make a difference, because I have had evidence of success, and I know girls that were / are under the radar for bare tips that would never be a Go without it. But then again, maybe I don't know shit.Tippers vs. No-Tippers, I think we can agree that we don't agree, and as always, YMMV.

[KGirlAddict]

I always said tipping is for low wage earners. Waiters and waitresses, delivery boys, etc. Not for someone making $150/ hour. Do we tip our doctors, dentists or lawyers for doing a good job? A $20 tip for someone making over $150/ hour could be looked at as insulting at worst or inconsequential at best.

If tips are exclusively for low wage earners, then would you still feel obligated tip workers that earn moderate to high wages? For example, a massage therapist, boutique hairdresser or bartender / server in a high-end restaurant can easily earn $75 - $100 per hour or more. But because it can be argued that these folks are earning too much money per hour, do you feel justified to not tip them? We don't tip doctors or lawyers because it isn't customary to do so, just as we don't tip fast food workers even if they're minimum wage. Some service industries get tips while others don't. I've never heard of a sex worker insulted by a tip but I have heard many wh_res say they were insulted by lack of a tip (especially if they're providing extras like bareback). Some girls even stop giving BB because they are not incentivized to continue. And then some No-Tip wh_remongers wonder why so-and-so changed her menu or what a shame so-and-so is strictly covered nowadays. Inconsequential my ass. Do you really think that extra money has absolutely no correlation whatsoever to a girl's mindset? Money has nothing to do with her cost benefit analysis or risk to reward? As we all know, some girls will BB without asking for a tip, other girls will not BB unless you make sure to tip upfront, but my guess is that every girl, no matter whether she says so or not, wants extra money because it's human nature to want more money. Just imagine yourself, as a girl, in her place. Wouldn't you want to be paid more for giving up bare pussy or wouldn't you appreciate a tip for your hard work? You would honestly treat clients the same, if one never tipped and the other one always did? I ain't trying to white-knight shit, ain't trying to be right or tell you you're wrong, ain't going to convince anyone to do anything with his money. Yeah, let's all organize the first American Wh_reMongers Union and boycott girls to stop runaway price increases in LA. Yeah, let's all unite against tips for bare service, because bookers and girls somehow won't know they can charge extra for it and we all got to keep that shit secret. You guys keep telling yourselves what you want to believe. I tip because I think it does make a difference, because I have had evidence of success, and I know girls that were / are under the radar for bare tips that would never be a Go without it. But then again, maybe I don't know shit. TBH, I rather you not tip so there's less likelihood of more diseased cocks all up in these chicks. Tippers vs. No-Tippers, I think we can agree that we don't agree, and as always, YMMV.

[DHorn420]

could be looked at as insulting at worst or inconsequential at best

However we may think that the girls will see at the notion of receiving a tip, no one would mind extra $. Especially these girls. If mongers can do it, so be it, their prerogative. Hope they are ready for when standard rates go much higher for not better service and mediocre looking girls.

[Kreme69]

I think some of you guys have it all wrong on the tipping. If you have extra money and had a good time with a provider, what's so hard about forking out extra cash to show appreciation? It's american culture to tip. Of course, if you have a below average time with a below average girl I don't think there is a need to tip. But if you had a better than average time with a cute girl and have cash to spend, then I say tip the girl to keep them happy and help keep them working in LA.

My man over here the hi roller I'm talking about. Hey, like I said more power to you if you making them big bucks. For me though, I'd spend that tip with another girl if I could. Just like previous poster mentioned though, I thinks tips are more for the waitresses, bellboys, car washers. I categorize escorts as dentists and doctors cause they already making the big bucks. As a side note, most kgirls tour. So they be travelling in and out of LA whether you tip them or not.