"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[Dash]

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/us-...study-suggests

I may be trolling; I saw this article and I know some guys who are observant enough to see having money increases their options with females, while being married doesn't increase their options rather destroys them. With apps like Bumble and others, guys can find females without commitment.

I think money excuses may be worthwhile for guys; I have a male friend who hasn't much dough and lives comfortably with his parents; I told him just say "I'm saving up for my house downpayment next year. " Problem solved.

[MickyRocky]

Thanks to Quartjess and others for their inputs.

Had a dream with Caramellove and Amber a few weeks ago. They both are little old and good.

Caramellove is amazing in my opinion. Top-notch head game with BBBJCIM, MSOG, very accommodative. Will repeat for her head game. Placed my donation on the tables, she didn't even touch until I was there.

Just to warn you guys, she is bit loud.

https://www.seeking.com/member/10361...d-253c9fc9d8de

Amber is good, BBJ was okay but felt something missing. I felt like she hurried me after an hour, kept asking about donation. Will not repeat.

https://www.seeking.com/member/c3354...6-1587df5678d4

[Thunderbolt27]

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/us-...study-suggests

[Thunderbolt27]

I love hearing these success stories! It can take a little effort but the payoff can be great. We all have a lot of experiences on SA and as a group have come up with a consensus on "rules" but going against the grain can certainly pay off. It all depends on which each of us are looking for on the site. Stay safe out there guys!

Sorry, suffered from premature postacation there!

Was going to say that if they typed in a personalized platonic message in their profile, then I generally agree that they are not worth the trouble when there are other options. However, I didn't always know this and in my early days on SA and sometimes pursued them, and sometimes succeeded.

Case in point. One of my early successes. Very discreet profile, face blocked in photo and hard to tell what her body was like. But she was conveniently located to me, 19,5'2" and listed slim and blonde. Worth a try right? Her profile said she was looking for men 18-29, and something like "if you are looking for sex right away please don't message me. " I am 59 and definitely looking for sex right away. But I didn't know any better at the time, so I messaged her. No answer. Pinged her again a week later. She had had a lot of really fucked up messages and was about to quit the site. We traded photos, she was hot and she was up to meet for coffee.

She turned out to be the kind of gem we all hope for on SA. Smart girl, but very new to all this and really needed money. Coffee was just that, but we scheduled a "real" date later. She is the only girl I have ever taken to dinner off the site. Said she had never had a real sushi dinner and wanted to try it. I stepped up to the plate and invested in a fairly expensive dinner. No discussion of allowance or expectations. Asked her if she wanted to go to hotel afterwards. She did. Went back to hotel, drank some wine, started making out. Was fucking her bareback in no time. Stuffed some cash in her purse afterwards and got her an Uber (she was a live-in nanny and her family had a rule against staying out all night).

Phenomenal experience, one of the best I have had from SA. She stopped logging onto SA after I met her. Ended up seeing her for a couple months before she ghosted on me. Beautiful face and body, and eager to please. Tight as bark on a tree. Probably the only girl I have had off SA who was so tight it was actually hard to shove it in even when she was dripping wet! But worth the effort. She told me later that I was only the fifth guy she had been with in her life, and I believed it. So you never know until you give it a try.

[RicoC]

So, I'm on SB scrolling and find my step daughter's friend. Looks like she hasn't been active on the site for the past 11 months. I'm friends with her on FB and still have her contact info on my phone.

Looking for advice on how to approach her. Message her and just come right out and ask if she's sugar dating and would like to see if we click? LOL. Could be a dream come true or a nightmare. Coin flip.

Long story short. I did reach out to her. Asked her about a profile that I saw, and she thought it was tinder. Well, it's an old profile in SB as I suspected. Text convo revealed she had some past arrangements. I asked her if she'd be interested in a fwb discrete arrangement and she said she is down! Hell yeah. So far so good. She's taking direction very well via text. Sent some pics. And she is starting to open up.

[Hal1957]

You can find interesting hide-a-ways on AirBnB. I was meeting an SB in Valdosta and did a quick search just for grins. Found an upstairs apartment over a garage on a lake less than 30 minutes away. She was blown away. The place was something like $80 for the night, not much more than a 2 star room in town. Mid-week and short notice, the price was about 40 percent off.

Anyone use AirBnB on a regular basis for sugaring? I've thought about it but never really comes to mind when I'm actually going to see someone. I've looked at it before and it seems not all places let you check in remotely w / o meeting someone first. Then alot of places aren't really private as it's only a room in a house. Then I see the opposite scenario where it's a large 3+ bedroom house which is overkill and too expensive.

Just wondering if it's really a good option. I searched and saw a couple posts but didn't seem to be alot of people doing this. Like to hear any feedback, tips, etc. Also, if anyone has recommendation on places to use would be good too especially if it's in the Cobb / Perimeter / Roswell areas.

Thanks.

[DogBert77]

Sorry, suffered from premature postacation there!

Was going to say that if they typed in a personalized platonic message in their profile, then I generally agree that they are not worth the trouble when there are other options. However, I didn't always know this and in my early days on SA and sometimes pursued them, and sometimes succeeded.

Case in point. One of my early successes. Very discreet profile, face blocked in photo and hard to tell what her body was like. But she was conveniently located to me, 19,5'2" and listed slim and blonde. Worth a try right? Her profile said she was looking for men 18-29, and something like "if you are looking for sex right away please don't message me. " I am 59 and definitely looking for sex right away. But I didn't know any better at the time, so I messaged her. No answer. Pinged her again a week later. She had had a lot of really fucked up messages and was about to quit the site. We traded photos, she was hot and she was up to meet for coffee.

She turned out to be the kind of gem we all hope for on SA. Smart girl, but very new to all this and really needed money. Coffee was just that, but we scheduled a "real" date later. She is the only girl I have ever taken to dinner off the site. Said she had never had a real sushi dinner and wanted to try it. I stepped up to the plate and invested in a fairly expensive dinner. No discussion of allowance or expectations. Asked her if she wanted to go to hotel afterwards. She did. Went back to hotel, drank some wine, started making out. Was fucking her bareback in no time. Stuffed some cash in her purse afterwards and got her an Uber (she was a live-in nanny and her family had a rule against staying out all night).

Phenomenal experience, one of the best I have had from SA. She stopped logging onto SA after I met her. Ended up seeing her for a couple months before she ghosted on me. Beautiful face and body, and eager to please. Tight as bark on a tree. Probably the only girl I have had off SA who was so tight it was actually hard to shove it in even when she was dripping wet! But worth the effort. She told me later that I was only the fifth guy she had been with in her life, and I believed it. So you never know until you give it a try.

[DudeNextDoor]

I got a one bedroom apartment Airbnb about a month or so ago in the Marietta area. I agree with everything Virgil is saying here. One thing I'd add is that the one I used had a Ring doorbell so I was on camera every time I walked in and out as was the girl I brought there. It's how the host would know I got in ok. He even messaged me through the site saying "I see you made it in ok. Let me know if you need anything. " That was a little uncomfortable but other than that it was more comfortable than a hotel.

I used AirBnB with one of my girls last year. It was actually her suggestion because she knew I needed to be discreet. The best options are the one-bedroom apartments, since you have the whole place to yourself, but it isn't as expensive as renting a whole house. You just have to make sure you read the description carefully, because sometimes even if you search for properties where you rent the "entire space," it means you're getting one bedroom but have free access to the kitchen and den where other guests are staying. Before you pay, it let's you book a place and chat with the property owner. I always asked them "I'll be the only person in the apartment, correct?" just to confirm.

We used a different AirBnB every week except for a great location we found in Midtown, and I never once had to meet the property owner. They either had a keypad to get into the apartment, an app that lets you unlock doors when you hold your phone up to it, or they placed the key in a hidden area and told me where it was.

The AirBnBs actually made the girl more comfortable than a hotel room, so we had more fun and for longer periods of time than in a hotel room.

As far as price goes, for a single bedroom apartment, depending on the area, you'll be looking at between 75-150 after all the taxes and added fees (the price is never the one advertised. They all add cleaning fees, etc.). If you see an offering for below that, then it's probably just a single bedroom.

There are a ton of places near the new Braves stadium. Quite a few people bought or rented the new apartments when they went up just to rent out on game days, so no one actually lives there when it's not being rented. I prefer those properties, because it's awkward to be in a bedroom surrounded by someone else's personal belongings.

[DogBert77]

I play the odds on these things. My guess is a platonic girl conversion rate is prob going to be 10% or less w so much hassle. If you are having a different experience then please share about it in detail so we can all benefit from what you have learned.....

If you have found a new avenue to access these platonic girls, please share in detail your experience. School will be in session and I will be your first student. Ex: how many dates to get past platonic, did you get to FS? , allowance etc and how long did the arrangement last. I'm asking bc I have tried this numerous times and it's always beem annoying waste for me. In the meantime, I could snag 3-5 straight up SA girls with so much less effort and hassle.

Just my two cents.

Bojack.

OK, I don't know if I have "a new avenue to access these platonic girls" but wanted to share my view. If it's just a question of them having the "platonic" tag selected, I totally ignore that and proceed like I would with any other girls. Can't say the success rte is any lower. Lot's of girls check that box so they can have "plausible deniability" if anyone sees their profile that could embarrass them. Hell, some girls select both "friends with benefits" AND "platonic. " The box means nothing.

Now, if they have some thing like "ABSOLUTELY NO SEXUAL CONTACT!

[VirgilToole]

Anyone use AirBnB on a regular basis for sugaring?

Thanks.

I used AirBnB with one of my girls last year. It was actually her suggestion because she knew I needed to be discreet. The best options are the one-bedroom apartments, since you have the whole place to yourself, but it isn't as expensive as renting a whole house. You just have to make sure you read the description carefully, because sometimes even if you search for properties where you rent the "entire space," it means you're getting one bedroom but have free access to the kitchen and den where other guests are staying. Before you pay, it let's you book a place and chat with the property owner. I always asked them "I'll be the only person in the apartment, correct?" just to confirm.

We used a different AirBnB every week except for a great location we found in Midtown, and I never once had to meet the property owner. They either had a keypad to get into the apartment, an app that lets you unlock doors when you hold your phone up to it, or they placed the key in a hidden area and told me where it was.

The AirBnBs actually made the girl more comfortable than a hotel room, so we had more fun and for longer periods of time than in a hotel room.

As far as price goes, for a single bedroom apartment, depending on the area, you'll be looking at between 75-150 after all the taxes and added fees (the price is never the one advertised. They all add cleaning fees, etc.). If you see an offering for below that, then it's probably just a single bedroom.

There are a ton of places near the new Braves stadium. Quite a few people bought or rented the new apartments when they went up just to rent out on game days, so no one actually lives there when it's not being rented. I prefer those properties, because it's awkward to be in a bedroom surrounded by someone else's personal belongings.

[DArrow404]

Anyone use AirBnB on a regular basis for sugaring? I've thought about it but never really comes to mind when I'm actually going to see someone. I've looked at it before and it seems not all places let you check in remotely w / o meeting someone first. Then alot of places aren't really private as it's only a room in a house. Then I see the opposite scenario where it's a large 3+ bedroom house which is overkill and too expensive.

Just wondering if it's really a good option. I searched and saw a couple posts but didn't seem to be alot of people doing this. Like to hear any feedback, tips, etc. Also, if anyone has recommendation on places to use would be good too especially if it's in the Cobb / Perimeter / Roswell areas.

Thanks.

[Bross]

Is this the one you were referring?

https://www.seeking.com/member/97efa...f-eff5fa062056

I can't see the profile but if it's "Violettawishes" then that is her.

[TomSanders1970]

Pro and Agency. Wants 400 and in apartment off Perimeter. Hell to the naw.

Demanded ID and selfie. Told her to take a hike. Sorry no link, we mutually blocked each other.

Is this the one you were referring?

https://www.seeking.com/member/97efa...f-eff5fa062056

[Nickster53]

Fair enough. She was 24, I'm 62. M / G was at a Mexican restaurant for dinner, margaritas and conversation. No donations. She thought about it for a week, then messaged she would like to meet again. She didn't specify an amount. I try to make it a memorable experience, chose a 4 star hotel and she stayed the night. I put an envelope in her purse with $$, so my investment in the first meet was dinner, drinks, hotel and the envelope, about 4 $. Steep by most standards, but she is 5/10, athletic, blonde, stacked and good looking to my taste. College grad and the conversation was intelligent.

Those are the things I look for anyway. After the first meet there were 3 more but then she decided to move along. I get a text from her occasionally, but she doesn't seem interested in a repeat and after this much time it would be a little weird. But for me it was memorable and I'm glad I didn't block her.

Great report, I'm envious that you found one like that. I just finished "30 days in the bowl" (report coming.) and that's exactly what I'm looking for. Plenty of opportunities to get together but as I would put it, no real keepers. There are a few "booty call" keepers but not really what I was looking for. My first month just expired and I'm going to work the number list that I built to see if I can find one like this. I'll post a report in a few days.

[Bross]

Pro and Agency. Wants 400 and in apartment off Perimeter. Hell to the naw.

Demanded ID and selfie. Told her to take a hike. Sorry no link, we mutually blocked each other.