"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**DrSummer** · 06-05-19 19:27

Had two FC dates with her so far. She is an Engergizer Bunny in bed. Basically I couldn't keep up. No issues so far. But, I am being extra careful.

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

Originally Posted by DrSummer [View Original Post]

I met a girl today for a M&G who is stationed at a Military base about 15 miles from me. According to her, she is attached to a technology unit, not a combat unit. She is asking for full discretion and possibly hanging out at my place or at a hotel. The other restriction is that she has to get back to base by midnight. She is a nice looking girl, and DTF. I have a feeling she would be great in the sack. She mentioned about financial help, but didn't try to negotiate any amounts. I am really interested in her and planning on a date later this week. My question to you guys- any additional potential risk with a military SB than a civilian SB? Anyone out there who had experience with a military SB?

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

**DrSummer** · 06-05-19 19:19

Some information that may be useful for anyone trying sugar babies in Colombia. Spent a week in Bogota, Colombia for business and wanted to try sugar in my free time. It was my first time trying the sugar scene outside the USA, so I was little nervous and careful. Most of the girls responded back to my initial SA message, but I picked the girls carefully. Anyway, I ended up taking two girls to FC, and it was a great experience. Both were college girls (they had college accounts, and I am sure they were college girls). I don't speak Spanish, but somehow managed to communicate in English (they use translation when messaging on SA).

First girl was 21, college junior. Met for dinner and she agreed to spend the night with me in my hotel room. Face 8/10, body 9/10, attitude 10/10. Slim, cute and sweet girl. Had 4 rounds including the morning round. All 3 holes were available. It was a memorable experience. She gladly accepted the 150 I gave her at the end of the date. It was a bargain compared to what I get in my hometown. Will definitely see her again when I go back there.

Second girl was 19, college sophomore. She insisted on dinner meet first (no allowance mentioned), and see if she liked me before committing to FC. Met her and had dinner at the restaurant of the hotel. She was happy to proceed to the hotel room. Face 9/10, body 9/10, attitude 10/10. Spent 3 hours (2 rounds of fun). Greek was not available. But we had lot of fun. She loved DFK and sensual stuff. Again 150 was the allowance.

May be I got lucky, but if you pick the right girl and do due diligence, is shouldn't be difficult. They seem to be straight forward when messaging and bit more honest than local girls. One caution. In Colombia (at least the hotels I stayed), all the guests have to report to the front desk and they keep a copy of the I'd of the guest with them. Very difficult to slip a girl to the room without the security noticing, and all guests have to go through the lobby. I stayed at Hilton and Marriott.

I asked both girls, they didn't want me sharing the information with others. So, I will not be posting their profiles.

Stay Safe.

Dr. S.

**Truncated** · 06-05-19 19:04

Originally Posted by Assaholic [View Original Post]

Can you cite some examples? Last year on SA, I spent four months sending out hundreds, maybe a thousand messages and got practically zero responses. I never even got to texting or M&G. Stumped and demoralized, I closed my account. I could use some pointers in case I decide to get back in, or at least understand what I was doing wrong.

Tell them what they want to hear: That you are the answer to their money problems and the path to their goals and dreams. Not that directly, but more subtle. But whatever you do, don't waste your time or their time by being a BS artist. Many of these girls talk to each other. You don't want to get a rep as a time waster.

Use a good pic for your profile. I don't suggest using a full face pic of yourself. That will come back to bite you. Instead, use one of someone who looks like you, or one of you with your eyes covered. Give them an idea of what they will be fucking.

Pass on any girl who insists on more pics from you. Most likely, those requests come from scam artists or picky bitches.

Have a catchy headline. Something like: Looking for a Goal Digger. Get their attention and make them smile with the headline.

Join SA as a SB and look around at other profiles for ideas. There are some good ones out there.

In your profile, be direct and to the point. But do not mention money in the profile or messaging system. SA will ban you real fast.

Instead, get them off the site ASAP and onto text messaging. There you can discuss money, but not in great detail.

Use a burner phone. ATT charges $35/ month for a basic prepaid plan.

The goal is to get a meeting with them ASAP. See if they are real, and if they are into you. If they are, make an offer right then and there for whatever it is you are seeking. If you want her to wear a Lora Croft costume and peg you once a week, just say so. If you want a weekly BJ, just ask for it and offer her what you can REALLY AFFORD to pay.

Pick a first meeting location where you can control the situation. A coffee shop with only one entrance and a good view of that entrance from the parking lot. Arrive early and wait for her to go inside. Never go in until she arrives. Try to see if she shows up with someone else.

The unicorns are the ones who really intend to provide what you seek in return for cash, and who will do so on a regular basis. They are rare. Most unicorns are desperate single moms or college girls with big student loan debts. Your goal should be to find one of these, and keep them interested.

At the first meeting, talk about their favorite subject. Them. Ask questions that give you an idea of what's going on in their lives. Because they are on SA, it will be fucked up, but it all comes down to degrees of fucked up. Avoid the druggies and drunks. Look for the slightly-crazy ones who still have their shit together enough to pay their bills. But need your help doing it.

Don't promise more than you can really pay. If they accept, you're good. If not, no more time wasted.

Expect to be ghosted. 100% of my arrangements have ended in ghosting, either by me or them. That's 2019 for you.

Never advance a SB money. Never.

**Assaholic** · 06-05-19 18:16

Originally Posted by Truncated [View Original Post]

Exactly correct.

If you have a good pic and a catchy headline, you'll get a lot of attention on SA. Otherwise, anything you write in your profile is missed by most SBs.

No one on SA gives a * about your hobbies and interests.

SBs have only one interest, and that is cash. They don't give a crap that you ran a marathon twenty years ago, or that your daughter just graduated college.

Can you cite some examples? Last year on SA, I spent four months sending out hundreds, maybe a thousand messages and got practically zero responses. I never even got to texting or M&G. Stumped and demoralized, I closed my account. I could use some pointers in case I decide to get back in, or at least understand what I was doing wrong.

**FTP1999** · 06-05-19 12:46

Funny enough, I was writing the same thing when I saw your comment.

Escorts and UTRs don't read the profile.

SB do.

I got contacted by SBs at times based on my profile content.

So, it depends on what you are looking for.

Be safe.

Originally Posted by Madaboutmax [View Original Post]

This hasn't been my experience.

Initially they don't read profiles, but once engaged in a conversation many do. The type of SB I target typically would.

Any girl that clearly hasn't read my profile during our conversation is a NEXT for me. I have not problem keeping my plate full. LOL.

Escorts and UTRs are all about time and volume and almost never read profiles, so if that's your target you are correct.

**EasyeOne** · 06-05-19 12:31

Originally Posted by Donethatonce [View Original Post]

Long time lurker but decided to try the SB world and to start contributing on here when I can.

Anyone have luck with this one beyond her wanting to sell pics? She had a different profile with a clean photo of her face back during the Christmas college break. Can't remember the name. She said she was open to meet once she got to know me.

https://www.seeking.com/member/69ae7...e-1f0e566d7a5c

Online and in person casual / discreet. What she always tells me. But the conversation is always "I need money for bills, please help me!" she wants money upfront or money for pics before meeting but could never tell me when she would be available. Silent after declining her request and a few days later returning with the same. Please help me, I'll meet when I can. Stopped responding last week. Good luck!

**Truncated** · 06-05-19 11:17

Originally Posted by Donethatonce [View Original Post]

Long time lurker but decided to try the SB world and to start contributing on here when I can.

Anyone have luck with this one beyond her wanting to sell pics? She had a different profile with a clean photo of her face back during the Christmas college break. Can't remember the name. She said she was open to meet once she got to know me.

https://www.seeking.com/member/69ae7...e-1f0e566d7a5c

"got to know me" means that she will ghost you after you send her a bunch of money for pics.

There are 1,000 different ways girls (or guys pretending to be girls) string along guys on SA.

Never give a dollar until the FC has been entered.

The ones who want to sell pics are always scammers.

**Madaboutmax** · 06-05-19 08:32

This hasn't been my experience.

Initially they don't read profiles, but once engaged in a conversation many do. The type of SB I target typically would.

Any girl that clearly hasn't read my profile during our conversation is a NEXT for me. I have not problem keeping my plate full. LOL.

Escorts and UTRs are all about time and volume and almost never read profiles, so if that's your target you are correct.

Originally Posted by BigOne73 [View Original Post]

I think it's hilarious that you guys think the girls read profiles. If they're not reading the profiles of hot 22 yr olds on their traditional dating sites like Tinder and Hinge, then why would they read ours. Dating sites for anyone under 40, are "swiping" pictures only. Nobody reads profiles. It's almost 2020. I know that a lot of you guys have been married for a very long time, but you need to talk to your single friends about how dating sites work. Profiles are just for clever jokes in case the girl actually reads it. And the girls who actually read it are the lonely, fat, "undesirables."

**DoneThatOnce** · 06-05-19 06:19

Long time lurker but decided to try the SB world and to start contributing on here when I can.

Anyone have luck with this one beyond her wanting to sell pics? She had a different profile with a clean photo of her face back during the Christmas college break. Can't remember the name. She said she was open to meet once she got to know me.

https://www.seeking.com/member/69ae7...e-1f0e566d7a5c

**Truncated** · 06-05-19 01:56

Originally Posted by BigOne73 [View Original Post]

I think it's hilarious that you guys think the girls read profiles. If they're not reading the profiles of hot 22 yr olds on their traditional dating sites like Tinder and Hinge, then why would they read ours. Dating sites for anyone under 40, are "swiping" pictures only. Nobody reads profiles. It's almost 2020. I know that a lot of you guys have been married for a very long time, but you need to talk to your single friends about how dating sites work. Profiles are just for clever jokes in case the girl actually reads it. And the girls who actually read it are the lonely, fat, "undesirables."

Exactly correct.

If you have a good pic and a catchy headline, you'll get a lot of attention on SA. Otherwise, anything you write in your profile is missed by most SBs.

No one on SA gives a * about your hobbies and interests.

SBs have only one interest, and that is cash. They don't give a crap that you ran a marathon twenty years ago, or that your daughter just graduated college.

**Ernest Ll** · 06-04-19 12:08

Originally Posted by BStreet [View Original Post]

Banging this, damn she is hot, but most likely GPS. Tried to make convo, never responds at least to me. Haha!

https://www.seeking.com/member/0abe3...9-b6a2dea815b3

Fake, fake fake fake.

**BStreet** · 06-04-19 10:43

Banging this, damn she is hot, but most likely GPS. Tried to make convo, never responds at least to me. Haha!

https://www.seeking.com/member/0abe3...9-b6a2dea815b3

**BigOne73** · 06-03-19 13:38

Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]

I agree. A veteran out here on the west coast, Hollywood Guy, says that he avoids any profiles that have any negativity in them. It doesn't bode well to find the type of girl he is interested in, a true non-pro who is actually doing this for the first time. Obviously, lots of experience (bad) disqualifies them for that.

I think it's hilarious that you guys think the girls read profiles. If they're not reading the profiles of hot 22 yr olds on their traditional dating sites like Tinder and Hinge, then why would they read ours. Dating sites for anyone under 40, are "swiping" pictures only. Nobody reads profiles. It's almost 2020. I know that a lot of you guys have been married for a very long time, but you need to talk to your single friends about how dating sites work. Profiles are just for clever jokes in case the girl actually reads it. And the girls who actually read it are the lonely, fat, "undesirables."

**FarFarAway** · 06-02-19 16:50

Originally Posted by Madaboutmax [View Original Post]

Interesting strategy! LOL. I don't think it ever helps to put a negative comment like that I a profile.

When I see comment like "Don't messag me if you're a scammer", "Don't ask for my private photos if we haven't had a conversation", "don't waste my time", etc. Its a turn off for me. Makes it sound like they've had a lot of bad experiences, which is not a good way to appeal to someone.

I agree. A veteran out here on the west coast, Hollywood Guy, says that he avoids any profiles that have any negativity in them. It doesn't bode well to find the type of girl he is interested in, a true non-pro who is actually doing this for the first time. Obviously, lots of experience (bad) disqualifies them for that.

**Madaboutmax** · 06-02-19 08:46

Interesting strategy! LOL. I don't think it ever helps to put a negative comment like that I a profile.

When I see comment like "Don't messag me if you're a scammer", "Don't ask for my private photos if we haven't had a conversation", "don't waste my time", etc. Its a turn off for me. Makes it sound like they've had a lot of bad experiences, which is not a good way to appeal to someone.

Originally Posted by ErnestLl [View Original Post]

Updated my profile to include:

If You think an arrangement involves nothing more than you practicing your conversational skills while someone twice your age imparts life lessons over a nice meal and covers your rent, you're not a sugarbaby, you're a niece. So delete your profile and go figure out which of your uncles likes you better than his own kids,.

Women over 27 or so find it funny, some of the youngen's want a debate!