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 Originally Posted by Serpico99
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And when it comes to reports of human trafficking for asian spas, I only read about Chinese operated and staffed AMPs being linked, by LE, to human trafficking. Korean spas usually avoid this type of negative characterization.
Definitely the case up here. I've never once come across a girl in the NOVA AMP scene that spoke no english or couldn't leave the building. The korean girls especially speak decent enough english and usually rolling in porsches / bmws / audis / benz / etc (and that's not just mamasans).
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Ottawa. Canucks are lucky
If anyone has a trip north planned, I'd be more than happy to fill you in on what I discovered north of the border. Imagine not having to worry about tips and menu's. It's a completely different game up there.
Sure is going to make it difficult to get back into the NoVA thing.
Stoop.
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You bring up a good point
 Originally Posted by FullWood
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Wow maybe someone read the report. My guess would be he went there and expecting a BJ when declined talked about how someone said she did it. Whether true or not it shouldn't have been mentioned. I know situations with spas and salons the same thing happened to them and women loat jobs. Rhe men who do these things are haters and losers to the core.
Actually, he didn't, he got banned
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The reality
 Originally Posted by Serpico99
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For LE to go through the trouble of all that, they must be targeting a specific person (who is a major player in the AMP world down there) or group of owners (who are conspiring together) to have them go through all the effort to plant cameras while using a ruse of a bomb scare. For the normal AMP operation, having an undercover cop go in to check things out is all what I have have ever read about when LE wants to shut a place down. And when it comes to reports of human trafficking for asian spas, I only read about Chinese operated and staffed AMPs being linked, by LE, to human trafficking. Korean spas usually avoid this type of negative characterization.
Is that most people probably don't know or care to know the difference between how Chinese & Korean AMPs are run but yeah, I agree with you 100%. That whole Kraft issue is a little fishy though. Since most people pay in cash, supposedly they stopped his car on a "routine traffic stop" after one of his other non-filmed visits in order to get his name. Sounds like a setup to me. Catch a few huge perps and continue this "holier than thou" mentality.
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 Originally Posted by Mandane
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The day after they got the warrant they concocted a bomb scare at the AMP and fully evacuated it. That's when they planted the cameras.
For LE to go through the trouble of all that, they must be targeting a specific person (who is a major player in the AMP world down there) or group of owners (who are conspiring together) to have them go through all the effort to plant cameras while using a ruse of a bomb scare. For the normal AMP operation, having an undercover cop go in to check things out is all what I have have ever read about when LE wants to shut a place down. And when it comes to reports of human trafficking for asian spas, I only read about Chinese operated and staffed AMPs being linked, by LE, to human trafficking. Korean spas usually avoid this type of negative characterization.
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 Originally Posted by SexAddict96
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I went to Smooth Water based on previous reviews about BBBJ. Went there and a upper 40's to 50's lady which turned out to be Chinese took care of me. Opted for 30 min. No ts so straight to massage which was pretty relaxing. Flipped and I asked about BJ. She said no and that a worker there was fired because of reports on the internet. This is FYI.
Wow maybe someone read the report. My guess would be he went there and expecting a BJ when declined talked about how someone said she did it. Whether true or not it shouldn't have been mentioned. I know situations with spas and salons the same thing happened to them and women loat jobs. Rhe men who do these things are haters and losers to the core.
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 Originally Posted by Crankcase
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I tried to get an appointment with Ginger very recently, but she is only working a few days a week. A couple months ago, she sent me to Dara. I liked Dara better than a previous poster or two. I told Ginger I wanted a 'serious workout' and gave me the # and address for Donut, and her address.
https://nova.bedpage.com/Therapeutic...a/6579274.html
The Donut moniker is one of those opposing nicknames. Like Tiny, who is a giant. She is sweet, but possibly even thinner than the photos. I went with an hr $. 2, and as she stepped out she said 'D. Would take care of anything extra at the end. ' There was another attractive provider watching TV when I arrived, so I figured maybe she had been clued in for what I was seeking, and that was above her pay grade.
Her English was a bit better than the massage, and we could make some small talk. No real teasing, a pretty chilly room. Massage was not great, below average. Once she had me flip, she folded a small towel over me, and stepped out.
The shower ran for a minute or two and a different, curvier and well endowed provider came in. Not fully BBW, nicely curvy. I believe it may have been Luna.
https://nova.bedpage.com/Therapeutic...7/6592297.html
She initially asked to make sure we were on the same page, and I misunderstood. I thought she was asking for an additional $$ for the last 20 minutes. I balked at that, and I agreed to yes, more than original fee and 'I would take care of it.'
This portion went as I had somewhat hoped, adding a C to Ginger's normal repertoire, and some nice enthusiasm during CBJ, DATY, and ending with quite a bit more than that. I tipped $ and she was happy. Not sure if I would repeat. I would call Dara again if Ginger was not available, I think.
YMMV.
Donut is Dara's daughter. The person who made the assist is, I belive, Jenny who used to share Ginger's apartment. Jenny was out of the area for a while, but is back now and Dara, Donut, and Jenny are all working out of the same place.
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Papaya in Annandale
Decided to break my routine and give Papaya Therapy in Annandale a try this morning. It used to be called something else (I don't remember). Last time I visited this location, it has probably been 4 or 5 years.
Greeted by my provider in the inner lobby. Slender gal in jean shorts and tank top. I would guess mid-30's. Very pretty. She asked if I had been here before— I told her it has been a few years to which she laughed and said "we are both new!
Table shower was good and thorough. Massage was great. On the flip, standard NOVA finish. Overall, great AMP experience.
Really lovely girl, spoke good English, would make little jokes and laugh at herself. Would definitely recommend. As PA likes to say, YMMV.
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 Originally Posted by ScorpionFrog
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Could anyone shed some light on how several hidden cameras were installed throughout the AMP establishment and no one noticed anything. Not even the ladies noticed anything?
They don't have much in those rooms where hidden cameras can be installed without a tiny, still visible, hole poking through. . Maybe the vents, smoke detectors?
Finally, is there a defense against hidden Cams?
I thought these AMPs would be extremely careful about being monitored like that. It's not that hard to conduct visual inspections of a place you have complete control over.
The day after they got the warrant they concocted a bomb scare at the AMP and fully evacuated it. That's when they planted the cameras.
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Hidden Cameras, how?
Could anyone shed some light on how several hidden cameras were installed throughout the AMP establishment and no one noticed anything. Not even the ladies noticed anything?
They don't have much in those rooms where hidden cameras can be installed without a tiny, still visible, hole poking through. . Maybe the vents, smoke detectors?
Finally, is there a defense against hidden Cams?
I thought these AMPs would be extremely careful about being monitored like that. It's not that hard to conduct visual inspections of a place you have complete control over.
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TOFTT Reston. Donut and. Luna?
I tried to get an appointment with Ginger very recently, but she is only working a few days a week. A couple months ago, she sent me to Dara. I liked Dara better than a previous poster or two. I told Ginger I wanted a 'serious workout' and gave me the # and address for Donut, and her address.
https://nova.bedpage.com/Therapeutic...a/6579274.html
The Donut moniker is one of those opposing nicknames. Like Tiny, who is a giant. She is sweet, but possibly even thinner than the photos. I went with an hr $. 2, and as she stepped out she said 'D. Would take care of anything extra at the end. ' There was another attractive provider watching TV when I arrived, so I figured maybe she had been clued in for what I was seeking, and that was above her pay grade.
Her English was a bit better than the massage, and we could make some small talk. No real teasing, a pretty chilly room. Massage was not great, below average. Once she had me flip, she folded a small towel over me, and stepped out.
The shower ran for a minute or two and a different, curvier and well endowed provider came in. Not fully BBW, nicely curvy. I believe it may have been Luna.
https://nova.bedpage.com/Therapeutic...7/6592297.html
She initially asked to make sure we were on the same page, and I misunderstood. I thought she was asking for an additional $$ for the last 20 minutes. I balked at that, and I agreed to yes, more than original fee and 'I would take care of it.'
This portion went as I had somewhat hoped, adding a C to Ginger's normal repertoire, and some nice enthusiasm during CBJ, DATY, and ending with quite a bit more than that. I tipped $ and she was happy. Not sure if I would repeat. I would call Dara again if Ginger was not available, I think.
YMMV.
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Massage Dragon in Manassas
I often come here and this time I had some bad lower back pain. My provider was able to work it out with a very strong rub and hot stones. Her massage is the best I ever had. Half of the hour long sessions had me snoozing. She suggested cupping for my lower back for addition $25. I agreed and she applied the cups for about 15 minutes. On the flip I talked a little and she is very nice in responding. She plays hard to get. I could not touch her. Each time she would pull away. But the finish was great. She has an amazing body and is a fitness nut. I really wish I could get to know her better. Anyway, got cleaned up and she help me dress. I'm hitting this place a couple of time a month and will continue. Enjoy!
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Excellence spa Manassas
Was running around town and happened to see this spa, I had the extra time to burn so I took the leap.
It's in the "samantha's corner" business area, walked in.
And met "lili" (typical slender Asian nothing to write home about) massage was 40 hhr 60 hr, I threw out my signal that jr needed attention and waited for the for the flip. On the flip jr was ignored so I used one more tactic I spoke to her in Chinese and asked her about the "other" menu items. She smilded and said just the massage.
In a nutshell good massage, no nova.
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Smooth Water
I went to Smooth Water based on previous reviews about BBBJ. Went there and a upper 40's to 50's lady which turned out to be Chinese took care of me. Opted for 30 min. No ts so straight to massage which was pretty relaxing. Flipped and I asked about BJ. She said no and that a worker there was fired because of reports on the internet. This is FYI.
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Nice find
In my dream I opted for 60 minutes. The massage was ok, 6 on a 1-10 scale. Finish was a 10. Dream-self will return for 30 minutes next visit.
 Originally Posted by Lucretius
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I thought I'd enjoy my Friday afternoon and stop over at King in the Franconia area and see Cici. Went in and asked and was greeted by a girl I did not recognize. Asked for Cici and was told she is "off" and will "be back next week". I wasn't tempted to ask her whether she was free. Didn't feel any attraction.
So. There I was in the Franconia area with the itch. I spent some time in the car reviewing the reviews of Franconia Wellness. Sounded like that might be iffy. I had been to New Paradise a few weeks ago and wasn't overwhelmed. For some reason I thought there was another salon in that cluster of townhouse offices on the corner. So I parked and walked around the buildings. Came across an unassuming little sign "B&T Health Balance" and decided to poke my head in. Typical foyer setup. So far so good. I was greeted by a small, friendly woman in blue scrubs, who introduced herself as Holly. She's slight, early 40's perhaps, and I beleive of Chinese background. Spoke English well, and very friendly. There were accupressure posters all over the walls. She led me back to a room. I was looking around and asked if she had a table shower. She could see my disappointment when she said No, and quickly countered with an offer of half an hour for 50. I decided to take a chance, figuring that I would at least get a good massage out of it.
She was the only one there as far as I could tell, and when I asked, she said she was the manager. So apparently little risk of being disturbed / surveilled.
Nice comfortable massage table. I had everything off and she went to work. She asked medium or hard. I said hard. She did lean in on me pretty well, but I would say that it was more medium than hard. As I said she is small. But she's strong. She brushed against me plenty as she leaned in, and I enjoyed leaning back against her, letting my hand brush here and there, etc. She used a lot of forearm and elbow, overall quite good. I complimented her on her technique and all the accupressure posters and asked where she trained. She said China. That would explain why she has good technique of a particular type that I'll get to in a minute.
She paid some attention to my legs and butt, then asked if I wanted a full body massage, since tume was passing and I had only asked for a half hour. I said yes, so she suggested I flip. She started with some activity on my front, and I went ahead and asked if she does prostate massage. She said yes indeed, and moved to an external massage in the taint area, applying pressure but from the outside. She volunteered that this was very healthy for men to receive. Good to know. That was good for a bit, and then I asked if she would do it internally as well. No problem, she got a glove and proceeded. Excellent technique. She knew what she was looking for and how to work with it. I complimented her skill and she confirmed that yes, they teach it in China.
I encouraged her to apply more pressure, since I like it fairly hard, and she complied. She was also willing to take her time and not try to rush me to completion.
She stayed in close and allowed OTC roaming everywhere, and has a nice hard body, but declined UTC. She "doesn't do that".
It was an excellent finish, and she cleaned me up with a warm wet towel. Like I said. No shower. It was a bit over a half hour. I tipped her 60 for friendliness and skill.
L.
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