"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[DirtyDeeds38]

I am looking for perhaps some impossible advise to give my friend before his life ends, as he knows it.

As most of you know, I have no SO, but my buddy, does. Wife of 23 years, bored as fuck in his marriage, always complaining, etc. So over drinks about five months back, I reluctantly told him of my new found hobby that I have all but now perfected. He was beyond intrigued and like I was, instantly addicted to the idea. He wanted to model my blueprint so to speak, so he rented a pad, furnished it etc; etc.

He played the game the first month well and as advised, not falling for any of the girls, then he fell hard for one. A petite little spinner, who like a few of mine, extrme high sex drive, quiet and polite, true college girl, a bit of a loner, seeks reassurance and has some deep seeded mental issues she hid quiet well. I warned him over and over as I had, "been there done that. ".

He dated this girl and made long term plans with her. She wanted marriage and my buddy actually was considering it. But ultimately, he knew he would never leave the comfort of his wife and life. She got clingy, jealous of everything and poseesive of him and his time and as a consequence my friend got sloppy. He left mail at the pad he rented for her and she found it with his real address, etc. She went on a fishing expedition and while she does not know he's married, she knows where he lives. For some reason of fate, she waited to confront him and did not just show up at his front door to meet his wife.

Long story short, he somehow pacified her, and she agreed for the time, not to show up at his house. He fed her a, "made for movie" excuse, but he knows once he can't see her, pacify her, or accommodate her, she will likely run to his home. The girl does not let shit go and recycles everything in her mind. I'm sure some of you more seasoned veterans get the type of girl she is. She will ruin him and everything he knows, if she shows up. She is not the type of girl who he can tell her and offer to buy her off. He really does love this girl, but come on, she's some 25 years younger and there is no future.

Anyone with any very creative ideas here on how to handle this? I feel responsible for having brought him into this. Confessing to either his wife or the girl, is not going to be an option. He has to end it peacefully and prevent her curiosity from showing up at his front door.This girl has made my buddy her fucking life. She is all in with him. One of his ideas was to just end it and make his wife believe he got caught up with some very bad people he screwed over and they threatened to tell her he was having an affair, so when this little girl shows up, she might slightly accept it. I told him his wife is smarter than that and the two of them probably would end up having a chat. Personally, I think my buddy is totally fucked. I don't think this one goes away even with a envelop full of large bills, she will want revenge.

Any far reaching, creative advise would be greatly appreciated.

[Dolato]

I can't say I've encountered a lot of latina SBs but I've banged a lot in civy dating, and over the long term and on a large scale you won't find any level of consistency that you can count on. You might find some recognizable pattern with the first few, then a new one comes along and shatters any conclusions you may have come to about the ones you've known so far. I'm guessing that's even more true with SBs, especially the type that grew up in this county, who have been Americanized by going to high school here.

I've always been fond of the latinas even before the bowl and have encountered many in the la / oc area. I may be generalizing here, but from my limited sample size I've gotten used to a few common traits: Family priorities can make them iffy with scheduling dates (large families and always something going on). Almost always still living at home so no chance at a quick easy bang at their place. Unlikely to be on birth control (partly for catholic upbringing, but also just getting knocked up doesn't seem all that bad to them).

FC skills and overall experiences have all varied.

[FredMoore]

Latinas (2) very passionate, wet quickly, vocal, thick bodied (most passionate).

Asian (1) not passionate, controlled, but screamed at the top of her lungs at orgasm. Best spinner shape, Scared the shit out of me. (most vocal).

White (300+) a mixed bag MILFs (4) most orgasmic, most squirting, fattest. (best squirter) Teens (18-19) quiet, physically most active,20 somethings soso (sweetest pussies).

AA (1) boring (most funky).

As you can see I see mostly Caucs, but I am open minded about all. The AA girls in my area tend to be more ghetto, but less open to Pay to go. Asians are GPS. MILFs are too hard to get and too GPS.

[Orbits]

I want girls to know I am a serial SD. It creates a fierce level of competition. I don't use it against them in a mean way. Its just a reality. You better keep Daddy happy or someone else will. And they know I'm not blowin smoke. My profile on SD4M is 5 years old. But I have had other profiles with different language to see what works.

I tell all of them I have had many past SB's.

In my admittedly somewhat limited experience, being able to discuss past SBs with a POT is very helpful. I've not yet met one that minded that at all, in fact they mostly seem to prefer it. Most of them are attracted to assertive types, SDs who know what they want and can state their "requirements" clearly. Having experience with past SBs helps to establish that image.

Another advantage of having an "old" profile might be that it lets them know you're probably safe to meet (the SB sites would delete a profile if it got reported frequently).

[HollywoodGuy]

After a while - 6-9 months. Do you not renew the profile and start a fresh one so it does not appear that you are a serial SD.

I want girls to know I am a serial SD. It creates a fierce level of competition. I don't use it against them in a mean way. Its just a reality. You better keep Daddy happy or someone else will. And they know I'm not blowin smoke. My profile on SD4M is 5 years old. But I have had other profiles with different language to see what works.

I tell all of them I have had many past SB's. If its just a first date I may neglect to mention that I am currently seeing a few girls (but sometimes I do for a variety of reasons). And if they are gonna be around for even a couple of dates it would be impossible to hide. A lot of SB's claim they dont want anything clingy so knowing you are busy with someone else takes the pressure off them worrying about you wanting to have a GF. This doesn't stop them from trying to become the #1 girl though. Also being a serial SD tells them that you are for real. You have a proven track record of taking care of women like them.

I currently have three regulars and they are all cool with the scheduling issues involved. Occasionally they cross paths. This has only been an issue one time. With my stripper X. She was very disrespectful to one of the other girls. And guess what? Now she is gone. More because of poor FC skills, but her inability to get along with others was also a factor.

Also I try to have regulars that dont compete in the FC. Meaning they all have something a little different to offer. And currently they are all different ethnicities. And none of them are white. lol. Also none of them has the title of "Girlfriend". So I am enjoying being "single" for now. Having a "roommate" doesn't hurt either. As far as keeping the girls in line and also showing that I can take good care of a deserving girl.

[Member #5055]

After a while - 6-9 months. Do you not renew the profile and start a fresh one so it does not appear that you are a serial SD.

Part of the reason I am successful is that I put in the hours. Many Hours. After work today I messaged girls till midnite. I got a few maybes and one pretty solid hit (pictured) from a young spinner. We are going to do a "no sex, no money" date. I love that phrase. I forget who posted it (and it may have been on my local NP thread) but it is now part of my repertoire. Thanks guy, whoever you are. And if the girl happens to change her mind on the date? Well if I only get her off, no sugar. If she gets me off as well then I do pay.

Since I started on SA I have tried to limit myself to the 18-20 any race, slender or athletic. There are so many girls (as I am new). Over time I will see a diminishing return. But the girls on SA respond at a much higher percentage than SD4M at this point. Of course I was experimenting with my new approach (learned on this thread). And while I did score enough with my old approach to keep me busy I am sure I lost out on a lot of good pussy. BTW... It took me over a year of reading this thread everyday to modify my approach. On SD4M I was just basically asking them if they wanted to hook up in my intro letter. Having had virtually no dating experience until my 50's I had a lot to learn. I married very young and was really only serious with 5 women in 30 years except for pussy that fell in my lap. And I never dated in H.S. Same story. I just waited for them to hit on me. And just did hookups. Not formal dating per se. I still lean heavily to the hookup style because that is what I am comfortable with. I would rather fuck than talk anyway.

As you can tell by the pics I post I mostly date black girls (because I like them). And hitting them up cold doesn't really put them off too much as long as you do it with some style. But with this softer approach I am getting all races except the white girls. I just dont have the patience for their BS. If they could out perform the non-white girls in the FC I might put up with it. But honestly as hard as they try (and some really put in the effort) I have never had sex anywhere near as good as with a black or asian girl (except once with a russian GF). I am still new to latinas and have only banged a few so I dont have a read on them yet. Although my one regular "Sugar" is half mexican but identifies as native american. One thing I love about L.A. is the diversity. I am originally from an area that was just black or white and no mixed girls as back in the day mixing was not tolerated in my hometown. But the times they are a changin. I am now going to apply the same tactic on SD4M and see what happens.

[JZLizard]

I am still new to latinas and have only banged a few so I dont have a read on them yet.

I can't say I've encountered a lot of latina SBs but I've banged a lot in civy dating, and over the long term and on a large scale you won't find any level of consistency that you can count on. You might find some recognizable pattern with the first few, then a new one comes along and shatters any conclusions you may have come to about the ones you've known so far. I'm guessing that's even more true with SBs, especially the type that grew up in this county, who have been Americanized by going to high school here.

My experience ranges from a complete dud of a Puerto Rican baby who didn't have the decency to shave her damn legs for our date and wasn't a sexual person at all, to a 23 yo Peruvian exchange student who gave me one of the best blowjobs I've ever had, swallowing the load, and when she saw I saw so aroused that my cock was staying hard 10 minutes after the deed, started sucking again (tugging on it with both hands like a porn pro) and brought me to a second equally intense CIM, where she swallowed again (politely not making a mess in the backseat of my car). Never gave a latina anything other than maybe a couple drinks in a bar or dinner, yet they all seemed grateful. I'm particularly fond of Panamanians too, some nice threesome memories there (the ones I've known have been very sexual).

The only distinguishing pattern I could really cite is that some of them are so inordinately sweet-natured and put out a vibe like they want much more than just sex or money, that it can pit you against your conscience on whether to bang them or not when you know they are looking for something real and you're not.

[A Bubba Here]

Please give me, the heads up. What site?

[HollywoodGuy]

Part of the reason I am successful is that I put in the hours. Many Hours. After work today I messaged girls till midnite. I got a few maybes and one pretty solid hit (pictured) from a young spinner. We are going to do a "no sex, no money" date. I love that phrase. I forget who posted it (and it may have been on my local NP thread) but it is now part of my repertoire. Thanks guy, whoever you are. And if the girl happens to change her mind on the date? Well if I only get her off, no sugar. If she gets me off as well then I do pay.

Since I started on SA I have tried to limit myself to the 18-20 any race, slender or athletic. There are so many girls (as I am new). Over time I will see a diminishing return. But the girls on SA respond at a much higher percentage than SD4M at this point. Of course I was experimenting with my new approach (learned on this thread). And while I did score enough with my old approach to keep me busy I am sure I lost out on a lot of good pussy. BTW... It took me over a year of reading this thread everyday to modify my approach. On SD4M I was just basically asking them if they wanted to hook up in my intro letter. Having had virtually no dating experience until my 50's I had a lot to learn. I married very young and was really only serious with 5 women in 30 years except for pussy that fell in my lap. And I never dated in H.S. Same story. I just waited for them to hit on me. And just did hookups. Not formal dating per se. I still lean heavily to the hookup style because that is what I am comfortable with. I would rather fuck than talk anyway.

As you can tell by the pics I post I mostly date black girls (because I like them). And hitting them up cold doesn't really put them off too much as long as you do it with some style. But with this softer approach I am getting all races except the white girls. I just dont have the patience for their BS. If they could out perform the non-white girls in the FC I might put up with it. But honestly as hard as they try (and some really put in the effort) I have never had sex anywhere near as good as with a black or asian girl (except once with a russian GF). I am still new to latinas and have only banged a few so I dont have a read on them yet. Although my one regular "Sugar" is half mexican but identifies as native american. One thing I love about L.A. is the diversity. I am originally from an area that was just black or white and no mixed girls as back in the day mixing was not tolerated in my hometown. But the times they are a changin. I am now going to apply the same tactic on SD4M and see what happens.

[HollywoodGuy]

You can give the 18's an extra point on the looks. Unless she's got ads up on CL or asking you to meet her at her notel room, it's all the same fun.

Her pics and number lead to nothing.

[Dolato]

This one agreed to do the M&G in the FC. I guess that makes her a UTR, but I post any girl on here that was met on a SD site. She is about a 7, but the pics make her look like an 8. Maybe she will surprise me. When they are 18 I cut them a little slack.

You can give the 18's an extra point on the looks. Unless she's got ads up on CL or asking you to meet her at her notel room, it's all the same fun.

[HollywoodGuy]

This one agreed to do the M&G in the FC. I guess that makes her a UTR, but I post any girl on here that was met on a SD site. She is about a 7, but the pics make her look like an 8. Maybe she will surprise me. When they are 18 I cut them a little slack.

[HollywoodGuy]

Well from all my M&G's the last few weeks I now have three new choices (all from SA). The french / latina 19 year old spinner I had the $0 sugar car date with a week ago. She was all pouty last night because we can not seem to get our schedules to align. And failed to do so again today. Except this time its on her. I was going to see her even though I have only had one day off from the FC in the last week. But she is so sexy I figured it wouldn't matter.

The 21 year old tiny dancer I met twice and now she is ready for the FC. She is so aloof. I did get her to smile on the second M&G. I am really not sure what her issues are. Maybe she has just been hurt in the past. She seems agreeable yet cool at the same time.

But the newest girl, (a chatty 19 year old), new as in I just contacted her for the first time yesterday, is coming over tomorrow to hangout for an M&G / FC date as she said she was totally comfortable just from our convos.

I am going to pick her up straight from her job (an upscale clothing store) which is only 10 minutes from me. She apologized for not being able to stay overnite (sweet girl). Something I never do anyway. This girl is so excited she can't stop txting me. She is someone I can talk to easily. So we will definitely have a good time unless she is weak in the FC. A chance we all take. I have my regulars on hold till the weekend. So I have all week to explore new pussy.

My new ATF is on call as she has finally secured some reliable babysitting. I have her on a strict eight hundred a month for 4 months now. This month she will tap it out at about the 20th of the month at a $ a date. I asked her "then what?" She said not to worry. At this point she is "adickted" so I am not too worried. We only had one month so far where her dates exceeded the allowance. And that was only by one date. It will be interesting to see if she is willing to go 2 or 3 dates over.

Here is a moderately interesting site I ran across that has someuseful dating / relationship advice. It's not a competing site to this one so hopefully its ok to put the link here.

blackgirlsareeasy.com/.

[HollywoodGuy]

I wish there were more women like this. Once you've had a taste of one who is really into sex, it is very hard to go back. These are the rarest of all Unicorns.

I remember reading back in my work out days that the ones that take hormones (testosterone) go into sexual overdrive.

[DirkMcQuickley]

So the question is, do the SD's on USA like some real muscle on their babes?

I wish there were more women like this. Once you've had a taste of one who is really into sex, it is very hard to go back. These are the rarest of all Unicorns.