"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Beachesnole02]

I,ve seen her 5 times in 2 months due to major distance problems. Its like a 2 hour drive. Too bad as she is a 8/9/9/9. Very normal girl. Almost too normal for me. She is a little older (28) so not too quick to make a rash decision about who she hangs with. Not sure how you guys deal with that. All the txting in the world isn't the same as seeing someone. But I am staying the course if she does.

They are Gnipples. I would continue to make the 2 hour drive to play with those. Oops guess I let another one of my fetishes out of the bag.

[DirtyDeeds38]

Stop paying her, stop fucking her and stop txting her. What else is there?

I'm legally separated, in the clutches of a messy divorce with many twists and turns. In the final agreement that we have both signed and was approved by the court, we are to be separated for one year and then the divorce becomes final. The settlement agreement includes me gaining complete control of a $425,000 home that is paid for. But with that clause and agreement is that during the 1 year separation period, I am not to engage in a romantic type relationship with another woman. This was set forth in that we might reconcile our differences, per her request in that year time span. I also agreed to marriage counseling. If after the end of said year, I still want to proceed, I get the house and she gets a condo in S Florida worth about half the value of the home I get. So I have $425,000 riding on her not finding out. THATS WHY just stopping all you listed is not an option. This girl will come looking and 10-1 she will find my soon to be EX wife before she finds me.

So I need a plan that causes her to go away and never even want to know who I am or was!

[HollywoodGuy]

She is truly trash and I want her GONE!

Stop paying her, stop fucking her and stop txting her. What else is there?

[HollywoodGuy]

Nice nipples! Not sure what your question is Hollywood? Maybe she wants more of a relationship?

I guess my question is can you really have a successful long distance relationship.

[FredMoore]

I,ve seen her 5 times in 2 months due to major distance problems. Its like a 2 hour drive. Too bad as she is a 8/9/9/9. Very normal girl. Almost too normal for me. She is a little older (28) so not too quick to make a rash decision about who she hangs with. Not sure how you guys deal with that. All the txting in the world isn't the same as seeing someone. But I am staying the course if she does.

Nice nipples! Not sure what your question is Hollywood? Maybe she wants more of a relationship?

[BigTigger]

Very Simple Advice: Use your intelligence and savvy and work a plan to get her to dump you. Were it be through being undependable, flaky, mean, low sugar, etc. You need to change your actions to get her to drop you. I speak from experience. The best is for it to be her decision and not yours.

"Peeking In From My Asylum".

BigTigg.

I've been out of the bowl, trying to end the SB #1 thing that maybe some of you recall turned into a relationship, gone messy with serious risks involved. Well, I'm still within the mess, but I have made a date that I will lower the final dumping and stick to it. I had to go to great lengths and costs to arrange a time I will be able to send her away for what I hope will be the final time. But I know for certain, a fallout of sorts will ensue. To refresh, the girl is 22, one daughter, clingy, plays innocent, met her family, she is suspicious of me, tried to trap me with pregnancy, talks about marriage, lied about birth control and last time I broke up with her, she threatened to "expose" me.

This girl can be very hard headed and controlling and such. I don't know whether presenting her with an approach that describes mutual destruction should she try to "ruin my life" or try the ole, "you are just not right for me", with serious explanations why, is best? I think the later will leave her open for trying to find me and fix things. I'm thinking of also telling her, I've met someone else, but she might get revengeful, as I will need to keep her hoping up until hours before I dump her sorry ass.

This girl has been a sugar baby before with a number of past Sugar daddies. I have not absolute proof, other then she was on the sugar site for months and online all day until a month after we met and after she agreed we were a "real thing" (she lied) When she agreed to go exclusive and date me, I spent $160 and signed up for two other accounts and emailed her under other names, and she agreed to meet and made prices etc for sex and a trip to the FC, When I confronted her about it, she denied that she would have ever really met those men and was just playing along. Yeah right! She also claims I'm the only man she met on those sites. Yeah right! She smokes weed, stays out all night and parties a lot, does not see her child very much, etc, etc, etc. I'm thinking to tell her, I am going to report her if she threatens me. Simply put, the girl is trash and if I call her out on it, she might come after me and my work, etc. Although, I've done nothing wrong to her, she is a young woman and we all know how that goes.

My question is, I have five days to go from the initial dumping, to being 100% sure this girl is done and not coming to look for me. I know after the initial dumping she will beg and plea, etc. This MUST be wrapped up and her moved along with no chance for contact after five days. Any ideas on how best to approach this?

Brothers, my story is much more involved then this. Moral of the story here, is a reminder to keep your SB dating clean and all business and when you stumble across a clingy one, dump her fast and swiftly or you risk ruining you life. I am in the middle of a huge mess and an tired of juggling it and I have only myself to blame. My goal is to slip out of this unscathed and return to the hobby in the way I should have all along. In the meantime, I hope to save my private life, financial stability and all that I know, cause they are all on the table right now. Any ideas, from anyone who has been through this is welcomed! I've truly been good to this girl and never treated her badly, but I fear the gloves might need to come off. Not in an illegal manor, but just one that scares he heck out of this fake cum bucket. She is truly trash and I want her GONE!

[DirtyDeeds38]

I've been out of the bowl, trying to end the SB #1 thing that maybe some of you recall turned into a relationship, gone messy with serious risks involved. Well, I'm still within the mess, but I have made a date that I will lower the final dumping and stick to it. I had to go to great lengths and costs to arrange a time I will be able to send her away for what I hope will be the final time. But I know for certain, a fallout of sorts will ensue. To refresh, the girl is 22, one daughter, clingy, plays innocent, met her family, she is suspicious of me, tried to trap me with pregnancy, talks about marriage, lied about birth control and last time I broke up with her, she threatened to "expose" me.

This girl can be very hard headed and controlling and such. I don't know whether presenting her with an approach that describes mutual destruction should she try to "ruin my life" or try the ole, "you are just not right for me", with serious explanations why, is best? I think the later will leave her open for trying to find me and fix things. I'm thinking of also telling her, I've met someone else, but she might get revengeful, as I will need to keep her hoping up until hours before I dump her sorry ass.

This girl has been a sugar baby before with a number of past Sugar daddies. I have not absolute proof, other then she was on the sugar site for months and online all day until a month after we met and after she agreed we were a "real thing" (she lied) When she agreed to go exclusive and date me, I spent $160 and signed up for two other accounts and emailed her under other names, and she agreed to meet and made prices etc for sex and a trip to the FC, When I confronted her about it, she denied that she would have ever really met those men and was just playing along. Yeah right! She also claims I'm the only man she met on those sites. Yeah right! She smokes weed, stays out all night and parties a lot, does not see her child very much, etc, etc, etc. I'm thinking to tell her, I am going to report her if she threatens me. Simply put, the girl is trash and if I call her out on it, she might come after me and my work, etc. Although, I've done nothing wrong to her, she is a young woman and we all know how that goes.

My question is, I have five days to go from the initial dumping, to being 100% sure this girl is done and not coming to look for me. I know after the initial dumping she will beg and plea, etc. This MUST be wrapped up and her moved along with no chance for contact after five days. Any ideas on how best to approach this?

Brothers, my story is much more involved then this. Moral of the story here, is a reminder to keep your SB dating clean and all business and when you stumble across a clingy one, dump her fast and swiftly or you risk ruining you life. I am in the middle of a huge mess and an tired of juggling it and I have only myself to blame. My goal is to slip out of this unscathed and return to the hobby in the way I should have all along. In the meantime, I hope to save my private life, financial stability and all that I know, cause they are all on the table right now. Any ideas, from anyone who has been through this is welcomed! I've truly been good to this girl and never treated her badly, but I fear the gloves might need to come off. Not in an illegal manor, but just one that scares he heck out of this fake cum bucket. She is truly trash and I want her GONE!

[HollywoodGuy]

I,ve seen her 5 times in 2 months due to major distance problems. Its like a 2 hour drive. Too bad as she is a 8/9/9/9. Very normal girl. Almost too normal for me. She is a little older (28) so not too quick to make a rash decision about who she hangs with. Not sure how you guys deal with that. All the txting in the world isn't the same as seeing someone. But I am staying the course if she does.

[HollywoodGuy]

HG,

You continue to be awesome hunting SBs in LA. I gave up after 2 months of no success w / even $200 per visit (had success before) earlier this year. In San Diego, the SB pool is pretty dry.

Nice to see your posting!! .

Today I txted with a true 18 year old NP hottie. I asked her. From all the messages you must have read, why did you choose me? And I got the same answer I always get. I seem laid back and I didn't push for sex on the first date. And when you are only offering $ a date does it really matter if you have to settle for a HJ or a BJ combined with a hot makeout session? Half of them at least are going to go for the full monty whether they say they are or not. And now the stage is set for date # 2. A girl would rather take $ with no pressure than $$$ and be backed into a corner. This only applies to NP's, because no UTR turns down $$$ or $$ (and about a third will take the $) . This does not apply to GPS girls, but no one is interested in them on this thread anyway. Unless you have some dream that you are going to talk them down, which never works and is a total waste of time.

Once, just because I knew this one UTR girl a while back was a little hot for me I started talking her down from $$$$. After 3 months I had her down to $.5 and still I refused to see her. In 3 months she could have easily seen me 12 times for a $. Instead she made nothing. It was just an experiment. Something I dont waste my time on. I believe there are too many willing girls. Actually I know for a fact there are, but it does take game. And thats why we are here, to improve our game. When I started I thought I was blessed to have a 9 or a 10 in looks girl under 22 bang me for $$$$. I just didnt know any better. Now I do.

By the time I got to this thread I was already at the $ level. But it cost me a lot more than that to get there and most of the girls were UTR's. Now its about 50/50 because I like UTR,s at the right price. But all my LTR's are NP's or if they are UTR they need to go exclusive except in rare circumstances. The bottom line is this. At a $ you can be flexible. At $$ or $$$ you expect to get it all and in this game there is no guarantee of that at any price.

Like the girl I quoted in the post below said "Every arrangement I've had is at least $500 per visit." Really? How many SD's have you had at 22? The answer is none. All she had were tricks. Because at that price even a newbie knows they can have a different 10 quality girl everyday for the rest of their life. So there is no incentive to be in a long term SD relationship. Actually in my area most pro 10's are $$$ a date. And it's not that easy to be a 10 in L.A.

[Dog Rice]

HG,

You continue to be awesome hunting SBs in LA. I gave up after 2 months of no success w / even $200 per visit (had success before) earlier this year. In San Diego, the SB pool is pretty dry.

Nice to see your posting!! .

Message the 10's all day as long as you don't mind getting the occasional disgruntled reply like the one I got this morning.

"$100 are you fucking kidding me? Every arrangement I've had is at least $500 per visit. You're gross and cheap. $100 doesn't even pay my car insurance. You're broke. ".

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLpr...rnia-SugarBaby

Lets see, at the moment I have over a dozen girls waiting for a first date that have agreed to my terms. Mostly younger and at least as good a body as hers.

It's just like when I post help wanted ads for a senior level programmer for 5k a month and the hate mail comes in saying "that job is worth at least 10k a month". But somehow I always manage to hire who I need, and I certainly don't need any attitude other than gratitude.

[HollywoodGuy]

I agree that you may well be surprised about what even the hot babes will accept, both in terms of money and in your appearance. The problem I find is that the 10's are so used to guys going gaga over them that are real disappointments in bed. That whole "I'm naked why aren't you hard yet" syndrome. They will let you do anything to them, but in terms of reciprocating, making it interesting, they just balk. A good 8-9 tends to be a lot better in the sack in my experience.

I just read this. And I am dying laughing. I heard those exact words one time from a so called 10. And if I knew she was going to suck my dick like it was the last meal on earth, I would have been. Unfortunately she was a dead fish that just liked getting pounded for 2 hours with little or no response. Not too exciting.

[HollywoodGuy]

Message the 10's all day as long as you don't mind getting the occasional disgruntled reply like the one I got this morning.

"$100 are you fucking kidding me? Every arrangement I've had is at least $500 per visit. You're gross and cheap. $100 doesn't even pay my car insurance. You're broke. ".

http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/ALLpr...rnia-SugarBaby

Lets see, at the moment I have over a dozen girls waiting for a first date that have agreed to my terms. Mostly younger and at least as good a body as hers.

It's just like when I post help wanted ads for a senior level programmer for 5k a month and the hate mail comes in saying "that job is worth at least 10k a month". But somehow I always manage to hire who I need, and I certainly don't need any attitude other than gratitude.

[Beachesnole02]

I agree that you may well be surprised about what even the hot babes will accept, both in terms of money and in your appearance. The problem I find is that the 10's are so used to guys going gaga over them that are real disappointments in bed. That whole "I'm naked why aren't you hard yet" syndrome. They will let you do anything to them, but in terms of reciprocating, making it interesting, they just balk. A good 8-9 tends to be a lot better in the sack in my experience.

[Norm Gerd]

In my contacting what many would consider a 10 on the SD / SB site I belong to, I've had good results. I basically ingnore the Sugar Baby's cost requirements not in small part to the wisdom I've learned here.

I don't have a public photo so I think it helps as my Profile is sort of a filter before I send my photos per the SB's request. I have to admit that initially I self censored as far as looks go. However at one point I said Fk'it I'm the one with the money so what the hell. Not every 10 responds to my notes but more than I would have thought possible. I've met two of them, had fun, and continue to see one of them though not on a formal allowance basis. It is a cliche' but my life experience has shown me time and again that sometimes the loneliest woman in the room is the 10. Oh, and by the way, as far as my looks go I am very very average in appearance.

I'm glad you posted this comment, because it brings up a topic I wanted to share. There has been a lot of discussion about photos in the past, and I know there is a difference of opinion on posting them, not posting them, or posting "similar looking" photos. I wanted to share my recent observations with the group. I have multiple SD accounts on different sites. The main one is SD (ie). Com and secondarily, SD4 M. But I also have a little used SA account. Little used because without a membership there is zero way to make any headway with a SB. But because SA used to allow you to send a message if you posted a photo, I decided to put one up. I blurred my face, and scrubbed any identifying data from the photo. I also did a google image search on the photo to ensure it did not link back to me in any way. I then posted the blurred photo. To my surprise, the number of times my profile was viewed, favorited and messaged increased exponentially! To say I was surprised would be an understatement. So based completely on my own unscientific observations, having even a blurred photo makes a huge difference.

Norm!

[HollywoodGuy]

Gentlemen,

I have a question I would like to pose to the assembled Brotherhood: when browsing whatever site you are using to find your babies, do you intentionally not message anyone who you think is beyond your grasp? I'm not talking about "financial expectations", which SA helpfully puts on the intro page now, but just relative hotness factor. I am experiencing an interesting phenomenon as I re-enter the bowl, and it may be due to being a little rusty, but I'm bypassing babies who I think are too hot for me!

WTF!

And yet, I am not giving a second thought to their financial requirements, since that is often an indication of their own self-delusion more than the reality of what it will actually take to get them naked. I've talked my way into more than a few pussies who's entry fee was listed as "substantial" for the cost of a dinner and a couple of benjis.

Just curious if any of you are bypassing those 10's because you're a 7. Somebody's got to fuck them after all!

Scott.

It only takes a second to message anyone. Why not hit them all up?. My only dry spot are these super MILFS. I refuse to play their game or pay their price. Same with the Russian girls, and I don't mean the fake ones. My last SB was a 10, but unfortunately not in the bedroom.