"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Rouleur]

Gentlemen,

I have a question I would like to pose to the assembled Brotherhood: when browsing whatever site you are using to find your babies, do you intentionally not message anyone who you think is beyond your grasp? I'm not talking about "financial expectations", which SA helpfully puts on the intro page now, but just relative hotness factor. I am experiencing an interesting phenomenon as I re-enter the bowl, and it may be due to being a little rusty, but I'm bypassing babies who I think are too hot for me!

WTF!

And yet, I am not giving a second thought to their financial requirements, since that is often an indication of their own self-delusion more than the reality of what it will actually take to get them naked. I've talked my way into more than a few pussies who's entry fee was listed as "substantial" for the cost of a dinner and a couple of benjis.

Just curious if any of you are bypassing those 10's because you're a 7. Somebody's got to fuck them after all!

Scott.

In my contacting what many would consider a 10 on the SD / SB site I belong to, I've had good results. I basically ingnore the Sugar Baby's cost requirements not in small part to the wisdom I've learned here.

I don't have a public photo so I think it helps as my Profile is sort of a filter before I send my photos per the SB's request. I have to admit that initially I self censored as far as looks go. However at one point I said Fk'it I'm the one with the money so what the hell. Not every 10 responds to my notes but more than I would have thought possible. I've met two of them, had fun, and continue to see one of them though not on a formal allowance basis. It is a cliche' but my life experience has shown me time and again that sometimes the loneliest woman in the room is the 10. Oh, and by the way, as far as my looks go I am very very average in appearance.

[FredMoore]

Gentlemen,

I have a question I would like to pose to the assembled Brotherhood: when browsing whatever site you are using to find your babies, do you intentionally not message anyone who you think is beyond your grasp? I'm not talking about "financial expectations", which SA helpfully puts on the intro page now, but just relative hotness factor. I am experiencing an interesting phenomenon as I re-enter the bowl, and it may be due to being a little rusty, but I'm bypassing babies who I think are too hot for me!


Scott.

Scotty, I find I have better luck with the 7 to 9 crowd. I still hit up all cummers but I think the super hotties are too self absorbed to nail dowm (so to speak) They tend to be GPS to be specific.

[JZLizard]

Gentlemen,

I have a question I would like to pose to the assembled Brotherhood: when browsing whatever site you are using to find your babies, do you intentionally not message anyone who you think is beyond your grasp? I'm not talking about "financial expectations", which SA helpfully puts on the intro page now, but just relative hotness factor. I am experiencing an interesting phenomenon as I re-enter the bowl, and it may be due to being a little rusty, but I'm bypassing babies who I think are too hot for me!

WTF!

And yet, I am not giving a second thought to their financial requirements, since that is often an indication of their own self-delusion more than the reality of what it will actually take to get them naked. I've talked my way into more than a few pussies who's entry fee was listed as "substantial" for the cost of a dinner and a couple of benjis.

Just curious if any of you are bypassing those 10's because you're a 7. Somebody's got to fuck them after all!

Scott.

I like them slim, young and hot, the hotter the better, so the farther away they drift from a 10 the less interested I am in contacting them at all. But, I am a part-time seasonal SD with very limited time so I have to keep the focus on the ones I really want. There will be some I'm not their type, there will be some who I want to reply but they don't until 2 months later, and there will be some that I thought were SBs that turn out to be escorts or GPS hoes or whatever, so when I contact the ones I really want, it's already understood I'm not going to get all of them. But when dealing with women, confidence is everything and more important than money, so go into it with that attitude and you'll make out better no matter what. Rejection, or just being plain ignored, is a normal part of any online dating. Hunting them down in bars is no different -- sometimes a girl acts holier than thou when you first approach her and an hour later she's blowing you in the parking lot. If you are defeated before you ever walk up to her, you end up with nothing.

If the real world acceptance rate you're seeing is not to your liking, send out more initial contacts. Cast a wide net.

[F Scott]

Gentlemen,

I have a question I would like to pose to the assembled Brotherhood: when browsing whatever site you are using to find your babies, do you intentionally not message anyone who you think is beyond your grasp? I'm not talking about "financial expectations", which SA helpfully puts on the intro page now, but just relative hotness factor. I am experiencing an interesting phenomenon as I re-enter the bowl, and it may be due to being a little rusty, but I'm bypassing babies who I think are too hot for me!

WTF!

And yet, I am not giving a second thought to their financial requirements, since that is often an indication of their own self-delusion more than the reality of what it will actually take to get them naked. I've talked my way into more than a few pussies who's entry fee was listed as "substantial" for the cost of a dinner and a couple of benjis.

Just curious if any of you are bypassing those 10's because you're a 7. Somebody's got to fuck them after all!

Scott.

[F Scott]

In Illinois it is twenty percent of your after tax income, and a sympathetic judge can actually up that.

Well, I guess I should hope for an out-of-court arrangement, if it comes to that!

[Dsprdo]

I could hide child support depending on how much it would be, I'm pretty sure, since I will be starting up another company once things calm down after the move.

In Illinois it is twenty percent of your after tax income, and a sympathetic judge can actually up that.

[F Scott]

I shoot blanks. Had a new baby two weeks ago and driving for home. "I shoot blanks". "are you sure" yes I am. Lot's of fun. Post about another adventure shortly.

Did some of your sentences get left out?

[Graham111]

If a girl wants to bareback how many of you would resist? (assuming you actually like her).

I shoot blanks. Had a new baby two weeks ago and driving for home. "I shoot blanks". "are you sure" yes I am. Lot's of fun. Post about another adventure shortly.

[JZLizard]

Jeez, Lizard!

You should buy a lottery ticket, my friend, because you have some awesome luck! I don't know how you can keep such control over The Gecko! You are lucky you've never been caught before if you always ride without a saddle!
Bio 102 - Human Sexuality - in college taught us that there are always a few extra-eager swimmers that get out ahead of the gun, and all it takes is one little Phelps to spin your world 180 degrees from warm and fuzzy to married! But look who's talking, LOL!

Yes, I don't know if I have less pre-cum, or if my early swimmers are just not very committed to their purpose, but pulling out just in time for the money shot seems to do the trick for me. Then again, there could be some lizard clones out there in various states that I'm just not aware of.

One of the great things about Facebook is that I can actually keep tabs on former sex partners. Every now and then I see one with a kid that is in an age range that raises an eyebrow, I can usually research it a little further and confirm it's not mine. As I said though, I've only had one confirmed pregnancy, followed by a confirmed abortion, but the same girl later pulled what I think was a false pregnancy intended to make me sweat and potentially come back to her, as she didn't "discover" it until after I went dark. I heard through the grapevine (by her roommate) that the second pregnancy was a lie and that there was never even a doctors exam, which confirmed my suspicions, but if it was a lie designed to worry me, it was effective for a week or so, and after that I did always wonder since she moved out of state. Looking her up on Facebook today reveals that it was indeed a lie (either that or she aborted it, I'm guessing the former).

[F Scott]

I only do bareback so for me its no problem. I never cum inside though. The one pregnancy scare I mentioned was a long time ago, and I did cum inside in my youthful ignorance. Always pull out and spray them.

Jeez, Lizard!

You should buy a lottery ticket, my friend, because you have some awesome luck! I don't know how you can keep such control over The Gecko! You are lucky you've never been caught before if you always ride without a saddle!
Bio 102 - Human Sexuality - in college taught us that there are always a few extra-eager swimmers that get out ahead of the gun, and all it takes is one little Phelps to spin your world 180 degrees from warm and fuzzy to married! But look who's talking, LOL!

[JZLizard]

If a girl wants to bareback how many of you would resist? (assuming you actually like her).

I only do bareback so for me its no problem. I never cum inside though. The one pregnancy scare I mentioned was a long time ago, and I did cum inside in my youthful ignorance. Always pull out and spray them.

[F Scott]

Welcome back Scotty! What a wonderful ending to a Romance! You got to enjoy her during your reunion, made a love child, and don't have to support or raise him / her (hopefully).

There are a couple of scenarios good and bad.

1) good memories. Let sleeping dogs lie.

2) They might enjoy a romp with a stone cold stud and give you a call to service both (how cute is the GF?).

3) They might break up and:

A} she comes to you for support or.

Be} she comes to you with no strings attached for love and more affection.

For the couple they probably don't want you involved as a paying Father because you could make demands for visitation or coparenting. But if money is tight they might come to the deep pocket. Hopefully the GF is financially secure.

Finally, what would your wife say about child support? Or could you hide that?

Anyway, I look forward to hearing about Scotty Jr's exploits!

Hey Fred,

As always, your cogent analysis of the situation is helpful.

You are right, it IS a wonderful end to our romance! As I said, I kind of enjoy the thought that we will always have a bond, and that she (possibly) will always have a reminder of our time together.

As for the three-way, no thanks. The GF is definitely the Butch, and I'm certain could knock me out with one punch. Well over 6 feet and probably a fantastic field hockey player in her day! Funny because my ATF is barely 5' 2" on tiptoe!

I had not thought about the demands I might make if it turns out I'm the father. Of course I would want some visitation. She always talked about wanting to more back to the Northwest, which is where she is from, and I might be able to block that legally (if it's proven I'm the dad.

My wife would have at least four words to say to me if this came out into the light of day "Get the Fuck out!" so let's not hope for that. I could hide child support depending on how much it would be, I'm pretty sure, since I will be starting up another company once things calm down after the move.

Of course no one can predict the future, but all I know about her tells me she will not come after me, even if things get bad and she and the GF break up. The baby will be biologically hers, so she gets to keep it, right? I mean the GF will have a weak claim, if any, am I correct?

In any event, the most pleasant scenario I am concocting in my head is that we move into the city, I see ATF and baby walking down the street one day when we both are alone, we get to talk, and I can admire said baby and then deal with the flood of emotions for the rest of the day! Hooray for me. What a world the Bowl can be, but not entirely unpleasant from time to time haha!

Do no harm.

Scott.

[FredMoore]

If she was crafty enough to plan things this far, who knows what ace she has in the hole. I would just try to distance yourself as much as possible, including changing phone numbers. Who knows, maybe it's not even yours or maybe she isn't sure.

If a girl wants to bareback how many of you would resist? (assuming you actually like her).

[FredMoore]

Gentlemen,


I'm just having a little trouble making all this lie down comfortably in my head and stop making a rukus.

In the meantime, things are starting to normalize on the Homefront, so I am back in the Bowl and having a blast.

Peace to you all, my brothers, and do no harm!

Scott.

Welcome back Scotty! I agree with your analysis of her project. What a wonderful ending to a Romance! You got to enjoy her during your reunion, made a love child, and don't have to support or raise him / her (hopefully).

There are a couple of scenarios good and bad.

1) good memories. Let sleeping dogs lie.

2) They might enjoy a romp with a stone cold stud and give you a call to service both (how cute is the GF?).

3) They might break up and:

A} she comes to you for support or.

Be} she comes to you with no strings attached for love and more affection.

For the couple they probably don't want you involved as a paying Father because you could make demands for visitation or coparenting. But if money is tight they might come to the deep pocket. Hopefully the GF is financially secure.

Finally, what would your wife say about child support? Or could you hide that?

Anyway, I look forward to hearing about Scotty Jr's exploits!

[JZLizard]

Lizard,

I'm not entirely sure she knows exactly who I am, but she may. I know there are private detectives out there who can find just about anyone, so I'm under no delusion that I can remain hidden if she really wanted to contact me.

At this exact point, I'm not sure that I wouldn't be willing to help her out if it turns out that her baby is ours. From all I think I know about her, she is not vindictive, and probably really did just want a baby.

It's good if you held onto your anonymity, that's one of my cardinal rules in the bowl, never let them know your last name, but I also don't play too close to home, because as your run-in with her illustrated, it's a small world. Hopefully like you said she has no intention of going it alone, it's just that most people run into financial difficulties raising a kid alone, and when that happens they often behave in ways that are uncharacteristic of prior behavior. If she was crafty enough to plan things this far, who knows what ace she has in the hole. I would just try to distance yourself as much as possible, including changing phone numbers. Who knows, maybe it's not even yours or maybe she isn't sure.