"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Mfp79** · 07-31-14 08:17

Hey guys. Just entering the sugar bowl here in Boston. Spent the last few weeks on SA with decent success. Been reading through this thread and really appreciate all the great info you guys have contributed over the years.

Thanks, keep it up. Hope to have some contributions of my own soon.

**JZLizard** · 07-30-14 22:54

Originally Posted by Walruscl [View Original Post]

On a semi-related note. Now that it's warmer weather, I've been to several venues where the young nymphets are out in their bikinis strutting their stuff. Either oblivious to their sex appeal or all too aware.

All too aware. While there are attractive females out there who are unaware what they have, they are rare and tend to not expend effort revealing it.

The ones wearing bikinis already know full well what they have, and in the case of SBs are trying to figure out the monetary value of their assets before those assets depreciate with age.

That's part of what makes this whole game possible, the innate female desire to answer the question of "what's my pussy worth?" It's just a competitive thing they are born with. They want to place a number on it and that's why they like fishing for SB allowance. It helps quantify their value in their own mind to put a dollar amount on it.

The same ones you see walking around acting like they don't know they are hot in their bikinis are the same ones that will have about 35 duck-face-lip-pucker selfies on their FB account.

But none of the hot ones are ever oblivious to their appeal. They learn young what they have, then various men and other women remind them of it on a daily basis, especially in an always-online society. The ones acting like "who?? Me?? hot??" are the extra slick ones you need to watch even closer... LOL

**Walruscl** · 07-30-14 22:46

Originally Posted by Dsprdo [View Original Post]

but hey, screw them, I'm taking her back to my place later and making her squeal.

On a semi-related note. Now that it's warmer weather, I've been to several venues where the young nymphets are out in their bikinis strutting their stuff. Either oblivious to their sex appeal or all too aware. In the not too distant past, this was a very depressing thing. I wasn't exactly a player in my youth, so I wasn't partaking of the goods back then, and these days it was all just a reminder of the unattainable being flaunted in my face.

But now, the hotties who wouldn't give me a second look don't phase me at all. Their loss, because I've got a baby every bit as hot as they are and I am seriously rocking her world on a regular basis.

**Ltnric** · 07-30-14 21:05

Originally Posted by Dsprdo [View Original Post]

I'm always a little self conscious about it too. I still do dinner sometimes, or coffee, or since it's hot out an ice cream place. My newest recently quit her job as a a waitress at one of the restaurants where I have met 5 or 6 girls for dinner, so I asked her what she thought when she served a couple with an obvious large age difference. I figured since she knows the deal it would have been obvious to her, but JL is right, she said she never thought twice about it. I have had a couple of male bartenders give me a smirk, and a guy once complimented me on my "lovely daughter", but hey, screw them, I'm taking her back to my place later and making her squeal.

Thanks guys I needed a good laugh. Several months back I met up with the most beautiful woman. She was only 21 but still young looking. So we went out to dinner and during the meal My date went to the bathroom and our waiter, obviously one of those stupid frat guys, leaned over to me and said "dude your girl is super hot!" LOL.

**Dsprdo** · 07-30-14 20:52

Originally Posted by Ltnric [View Original Post]

So, if you were going to met someone who was extremely younger than you are and it's noticeable, where would you meet her?

I'm always a little self conscious about it too. I still do dinner sometimes, or coffee, or since it's hot out an ice cream place. My newest recently quit her job as a a waitress at one of the restaurants where I have met 5 or 6 girls for dinner, so I asked her what she thought when she served a couple with an obvious large age difference. I figured since she knows the deal it would have been obvious to her, but JL is right, she said she never thought twice about it. I have had a couple of male bartenders give me a smirk, and a guy once complimented me on my "lovely daughter", but hey, screw them, I'm taking her back to my place later and making her squeal.

**JZLizard** · 07-30-14 18:59

Originally Posted by Ltnric [View Original Post]

So I have been chatting it up with young girls off of SA and it hit me "what if they want to do a meet and greet, where do I take them?

Let's face it 99.9999% of the time the SD is going to be much older than the SB. I thought about dinner but I don't want a waiter constantly coming over and giving us looks like "yeah I know what's going on here".

So, if you were going to met someone who was extremely younger than you are and it's noticeable, where would you meet her?

The waiter is only thinking about what kind of tip he's going to get, he's not judging you. It could be your daughter, niece, etc. for all he knows or cares. Just don't try to finger her knuckles deep at the table or anything and nobody will think twice about it.

**Ltnric** · 07-30-14 18:51

So I have been chatting it up with young girls off of SA and it hit me "what if they want to do a meet and greet, where do I take them?

Let's face it 99.9999% of the time the SD is going to be much older than the SB. I thought about dinner but I don't want a waiter constantly coming over and giving us looks like "yeah I know what's going on here".

So, if you were going to met someone who was extremely younger than you are and it's noticeable, where would you meet her?

**John252** · 07-30-14 18:38

This is hardly a report.

I am a committed guy with a lot to lose, so I keep it close to the chest.

I met a local a year or two ago for a M and G. Her place I think. She was likely scamming others with M and G fees, placed smelled funky as in weed, cigs, not the dog she said was there. Shootings nearby-student housing go figure. She was hawt but tough to get to. She might have gone with me on a shopping trip once but it was tough to arrange.

THis week, another from CL, nearby town. Great face. She expected FULL NAME and occupation before meeting. Criminal justice major in college. Would not meet, thought this would have been a first.

I'm worried about paying for SA, perhaps get a prepaid card? I expect the competition is stiff.

I might just stick with tried and true outlets. I enjoy reading youse all tails.

**EuroInCincy** · 07-30-14 08:30

Originally Posted by FredMoore [View Original Post]

So have you guys seen a rise in girls wanting to be dominated and participate in a little S&M since the book came out and the movie is OTW

The group was always there. One of my profiles is pretty much that upfront. And they flock like moths to the light.

They have always been there, just a bit more open about it since the book came out.

**FredMoore** · 07-30-14 08:19

So have you guys seen a rise in girls wanting to be dominated and participate in a little S&M since the book came out and the movie is OTW?

I have noticed that the majority of new profiles in my area are girls 18 to 26 and many list "server, bartender, and dancer " as their occupation. And many of those are in college. I run a screen for 30 to 40 yr olds on SA and there are very few new listings in my demographic. I screen for White / Asian / Hispanic, slim / athletic / average. It seems many college girls are broke and need a few extra bucks. And given their relaxed attitude towards recreational sex they are by far the most easy group to connect with.

**FredMoore** · 07-30-14 08:06

Originally Posted by KingGreg [View Original Post]

How safe it is to meet at SBs place? Lets say SB is staying in apt. She says, it is ok to come to her place. ! Is it safe? First time.

To me that is the Holy Grail. Yes, she could be a Pro but you can probably figure that out pretty quickly. I would not hesitate to take the free room. It saves you the $$ and she is in her home environment and maybe feels less escortish. Also the paper trail is not there as it would be in a hotel. I have had 4 SBs welcome me into their homes after a M&G. One had dogs (4) who slept in the bed with us, 2 had young children who woke up all night, and 2 were heavy smokers so the house smelled like an ashtray. In the end, I like saving money but I would not stay all night in those circumstances. Just do your business and leave.

Dangerous? Possibly if you get a total nutcase. Do not bring your wallet into the house, hide your car keys where you will wakeup if she rummages around for them, and lock your phoneor better still leave that in the car locked up. I lost my burner phone at one sleepover. I'm sure she unlocked my car and took it to use the free minutes.

**HollywoodGuy** · 07-30-14 03:06

Originally Posted by FredMoore [View Original Post]

If you want to find a social MILF to squire around go on Zoosk or another dating site and get an IRL girl "friend" Who cares about sex anyway ? You've got this bevy of hotties to fuck all day long . Besides ,who wants to do a mercy fuck with a senior citizen ? LOL Bang your 20 yr old before picking up the 40 yr old . If you have a good time at the opera and don't get laid again who cares ?

No, I just want to find a smoking hot MILF to fuck and that's it. No going out. Just sex at her place or a motel. I don't have time to be too social. Dinner is cool at a local ethinc place. The only purpose is to play. If that trophy MILF who probably hasnt had sex in 3 to 6 months would just get off her high horse for a minute to have great sex. She 'd be happy in the end.

And they mostly are not looking for sex on a first date anyway. just a dream.

**JZLizard** · 07-29-14 19:25

Originally Posted by KingGreg [View Original Post]

How safe it is to meet at SBs place? Lets say SB is staying in apt. She says, it is ok to come to her place. ! Is it safe? First time.

It's hard to say, there's always a chance it could be a robbery setup, a sting or something else weird, but most likely not one of those. The risk that would be more on my mind is something like other creepy SD's stalking her, waiting outside to see if someone goes in then barging in and creating issues etc. That's not to say probability of it happening is high, but if she invited you to her place for the first time she is at minimum a UTR girl.

I had a situation like that where a POT first said we would have to get a room. Then a few months later after no contact, she went nando1 on me, she was behind on bills and needed help (typical stuff, keep the phone going, etc). When I complained about needing to get a room she said "why not just come to my place". I did a little more research on her and it seemed like she ran with some shady characters, so I opted to avoid that one. It was tempting though.

**GeorgeRichmond** · 07-29-14 18:21

Originally Posted by Dsprdo [View Original Post]

How long have you been communicating with her? I have picked a couple of girls up at their place and gone out for lunch or something if they didn't have transportation, but the only time I've ever been straight to the apartment the girl was UTR or an outright pro. A girl towards the SB end of the spectrum is probably going to be more nervous about it than you. I would maybe do it, but I would be very alert and I wouldn't expect wide-eyed innocence from her.

Just texting for past 7-10 days. I just found out that she may be young mom, desperate.

**HollywoodGuy** · 07-29-14 18:16

Had date # 2 with my new and super freaky submissive baby girl (pictured). I picked her up from work and went straight to my lucky room at my favorite no-tel. She made it clear that I could only fuck her for a short amount of time (it turned out to be 15 minutes I am guessing) but that she needed to have something in her mouth at all times. She claims to have only had intercourse maybe a dozen times prior to meeting me.

She is an age player that needs to be heavily dominated, smacked around and gagged while being fucked. Afterward I fulfilled her gagging needs for another two hours non-stop rotating between my hands, feet and dick while simultaneously inserting my fingers and toes into her pussy.

This was all free of charge as she refuses to take my money and prefers to earn her own. She was overjoyed at my strict commands and probably drooled a gallon of spit as the multiple wet spots were the size of small dinner plates.

The more time I spend on the SD site, the more submissive the girls are that I find. Currently 4 of them are age players that need their daddy to be very happy by whatever means necessary. Rough sex, fucking other girls, gagging, etc.

I just did my top 5 girls in 3 days, so today is my day off, so far.