"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Walruscl** · 07-21-14 11:11

When I first met my SB, she didn't even have her license (though she had a car). She had big mental block on going to take the test. I told her just how vulnerable she was if she couldn't drive, and helped her out with the final skills she needed, and now she's been mobile for awhile.

But she has another mental block with finding her way around someplace new, so finally last week I used a coupon and got her a $90 gps. Just got the biggest thank-you text ever.

It really is all about treating them well.

**ICantGetNo** · 07-20-14 20:53

Originally Posted by Ltnric [View Original Post]

So I am back on SA, god knows why, but I reach out to this 42 year old and she admits that she is more UTR than SB. Well I am in the hobby so I don't mind. However, I know that UTR who are SB can also bring with them some drama. Can anyone give me any info on this girl? It would be greatly appreciated. She goes by the name Kristy and has a child.
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Raiders Gal, who also goes by the handle CuriosIt on the Richmond Escort thread (she may also be on other Richmond threads). Personally, she's not even close to SB material. One of her most recent posts said she was looking for a couple more "regulars. " To her credit, she has received some good reviews. But an SB? Don't think so.

**Ltnric** · 07-20-14 18:37

So I am back on SA, god knows why, but I reach out to this 42 year old and she admits that she is more UTR than SB. Well I am in the hobby so I don't mind. However, I know that UTR who are SB can also bring with them some drama. Can anyone give me any info on this girl? It would be greatly appreciated. She goes by the name Kristy and has a child.
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**Ltnric** · 07-20-14 17:17

So last week I hit up this AA young girl. She seems cute, fit and supposedly she had a SD that paid her $1,500 a month. On top of that she tells me that she is Pre-med and currently an undergrad at VCU. We scheduled to meet today for a meet and greet. This ***** confirms and texts me if I was going to spoil her at our meeting. I told her no that this was just a meet and greet. Finding out that she isn't going to get money to show up she cancels. She is in RVA and goes by be or Beatrice. Don't waste your time with this one, unless you like paying for women just to show up.

**HollywoodGuy** · 07-20-14 15:16

I have given up on fetlife for the time being. Its mostly just a poser site for people that think they"re hot. And some of them are. And a lot of them aren't. Also every time I go on there it freezes up my computer. I thought it was just a coincidence, but its every time. So I need to set it up on an old computer or something as I am not going to risk crashing my main workstation. I did send out a few messages and the only replies I got back were from pros.

**HollywoodGuy** · 07-20-14 12:25

I may have struck NP gold. The recently pictured spinner I posted and I went on a second date (post 6806). This time I got a room. Spent a great 3 hours together, 2 hours playing, 1 hour talking. I have her now at an 8/9/9/9. She is a self supporting, no drama girl that will have her BA In 3 months. She still has a clingy same age, broke ass XBF hanging around, but that's it.

As I have tapped almost every existing local girl, I started looking out side my area and found this girl 100 miles away. We met halfway the first two times but date 3 will be at my place. I think I am technically her second SD, but the first one only lasted about a month. Just a very submissive, small town, girl next door type, looking for her Daddy.

**CreamyBare** · 07-19-14 16:23

Originally Posted by MuffDiver72 [View Original Post]

What is the best way to juggle a SB and a wife? I need some helpful advice.

Well, the "best" way is you get a SB that is bisexual (aren't all women?) then while the SB is going down on your wife, you fuck the SB from behind. Everyone's happy.

**Brian139** · 07-18-14 21:39

Originally Posted by Beachesnole02 [View Original Post]

I hear it is the current thing to take pictures of what you eat. Here was my lunch today. Had an incredible cardio workout after that. Life is good.

Does not look like a nice lunch bro, I would rather skip it.

**FredMoore** · 07-18-14 17:26

Appreciate the feedback for a M&G location. If anyone in Rich has a specific quiet hole in the wall they would like to share PM me. I'm thinking airport. Locals in my part of town should not be anywhere near an airport restaurant. Starbucks are just too small and public if the wrong person walks in.

RE: SB with wingman in tow, another negative is I had to treat two hungry girls to Lattes and a bunch of food. All for naught. I think I could have talked the target SB into a liaison if she were by herself.

Addicts are all Nando 1's. They become nonfunctional very quickly. Avoid them.

Week roundup:

1) down to SB#1 -very dear and passionate but not a spinner like I like them. Once / week with 2 x an option at no extra. Total 1. 75.

2) FB at 75 . No passion, just tank drainage. Looking for the next best thing. She was a spinner but is gaining and falling out of my interest zone.

3) SB #2 a 10/10 /7/7 in the wind. Did not communicate and just flaked. I don't get it but she either did not like the experience or $. This pisses me off more than anything!! Why can't they do the right thing and write a Dear John note for closure? It is still anonymous on line so they don't have to do it face to face. Just " thanks for the nice time but I did not connect. Good luck in your search. " How hard is that? By not saying anything they leave the door open for other followup and leads to more hassle for them. End the fucking thing!! Sorry for the rant.

4) POT # 1 Pulled a disappearance act last week. I sent a Dear Jane probe saying that if she found someone else it is OK but say so. Oh No she says, I still want to see you. ,but she is on line all day. End the fucking thing!

So this week has not been a good one in Sugar Town. Got to get back to the drawing board. I've been afraid to go on M&Gs since I am so wary of being seen. It's hard to do Sugar in an environment of fear.

**John G Smith** · 07-18-14 16:27

Originally Posted by AsianFrosty [View Original Post]

But they are also addicts that might want to feed their habits by stealing.

Make sure you don't take her back to your house.

I pretty much try to avoid addicts entirely. Especially if they were on the harder stuff, they are in a high risk group and could be carrying all kinds and very serious diseases. Everything would need to be covered, which pretty much defeats the purpose of me seeing SBs.

Also once an addict is back on that stuff, they will sell you out, blackmail you, or put you in danger just to get another hit. Even if I was single, I wouldn't want to risk dealing with an active addict. There's just too many other options out there.

If the SB is just a pothead, I'll make an exception. Potheads tend to be more lazy and aimless, than dangerous. But I'd stay far away from a girl who did hard drugs even if she's recovering. Addicts are the master's of deception and will swipe your valuables, financial information, and etc before you even knew what happened.

**TexasMonger** · 07-18-14 15:40

Originally Posted by Beachesnole02 [View Original Post]

I hear it is the current thing to take pictures of what you eat. Here was my lunch today. Had an incredible cardio workout after that. Life is good.

She must be an Asian kitty.

Cheers.

TM.

**Beachesnole02** · 07-18-14 15:16

I hear it is the current thing to take pictures of what you eat. Here was my lunch today. Had an incredible cardio workout after that. Life is good.

**Graham111** · 07-18-14 09:45

Been primarily using CL and have had 2 good experiences.

SB19 - as Hollywood mentioned recovering addict, fucks like a champ. 31 YO. Very open. DP with vibrators and the whole nine yards. Constantly needs money so hope she is not back on the "stuff". But want to get a little too close so trying to temper the enthusiasm. She is active on sb sites so "it's not love".

SB20 - took a chance on a 43 yo off CL. Apologized for being heavy. She could use a few pounds, etc etc. Finally got her for $0. 5 and a tank of gas! What a ride. Wildest 2 hours I have had in a long time. Tight and wet, even after 4 kids. So me normal is young spinners but what a blast. I will try to see her a few more times and see just how kinky she can get. Of course totally fucked up personal life but I can't be a white knight. Just let them talk.

**JZLizard** · 07-18-14 09:38

Originally Posted by NormGerd [View Original Post]

I have to agree. $ never gets me anywhere. I think it is because a) the cost of living is pretty high where I live and b) the type of girl I am interested in tend more to GPS. I like hot white, asian or latin young ladies. I know HW loves mixed or AA spinners. In my experience, they definitely ask for less money. Maybe it is a self esteem issue. But in the DC area, even $$ is considered low-ball.

Your demographic is like mine -- I like the occasional mixed or AA girl but they tend to be the type that have more Caucasian / Asian / Latina features. AA girls do tend to have lower cost expectations, but there's another reason not to rule them out -- they typically have strong sex drives (which makes them generally enthusiastic fucks) and pretty much across the board they love Caucasian men, it's kind of like a status thing with them I think (I. E. Some seem to feel higher in rank if they are able to land a white boyfriend, or in the case of the bowl a white SD), so once you combine the sexual enthusiasm with the price advantage it's something to consider.

For your preferred demographic, $200 is a reasonable range. Lower than that will probably be possible in edge cases but the average backpage hooker probably makes better than $100 a pop, so if they are claiming to be an SB and going for that rate you have to ask yourself why.

**Norm Gerd** · 07-18-14 09:08

Originally Posted by Ltnric [View Original Post]

Hey Hollywood, when I first chatted with the girl I offered $100 and I've done that every single time. But maybe it's me or maybe it's the area I am in but $100 doesn't get me any where. I think most women in this area have a bad case of GPS. The first two times I got on SA $100 was a joke for me. IN this area I don't have a lot of options. I understand that $100 or move on is key but when you don't have options I need to up it. $200 is the cheapest I've ever had accepted by a girl. So believe me, I have followed your career closely and have used your tricks when ever I could. $100 just isn't getting me any where in this area. Believe me brother, I've tried. .

I have to agree. $ never gets me anywhere. I think it is because a) the cost of living is pretty high where I live and b) the type of girl I am interested in tend more to GPS. I like hot white, asian or latin young ladies. I know HW loves mixed or AA spinners. In my experience, they definitely ask for less money. Maybe it is a self esteem issue. But in the DC area, even $$ is considered low-ball.

Norm!

P.S. Took the advice of the posters on here and told the POT that the friend is a no go. And basically blew her off. She was not happy with the allowance and not comfortable with me, so I think a pass is in order.