"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Golfcart]

Well, She came back saying. We must trust each other. She is willing to meet now. Wow. What a turnaround. Should I still move fwd now. As looks like info sharing issue is gone? Or will she still try to investigate based on hotel room detail / info? I will try to use different name on my bookind.

She'll return with the same old song and dance because this is important to her. Confidentiality is important to KingGreg as it should be. KingGreg needs to move on to someone else.

The bottom line is things must be a natural fit or there is no fit.

[GeorgeRichmond]

There used to be a promotional ad for The Man Show after Joe Rogan and Doug Stanhope took over, where they were applying for jobs and asking if it would be possible to receive the annual salary up front. LOL.

I don't let the SB ask. I gift them after the deed based on how happy daddy is at the end of the date.

Thanks. I am certainly not new. SD but back from break. And making me act like newbie.

[JZLizard]

When do you all give sugar to SB? End of the meet or before? Some SB ask full upfront, half after dinner and half after the date. Thoughts?

There used to be a promotional ad for The Man Show after Joe Rogan and Doug Stanhope took over, where they were applying for jobs and asking if it would be possible to receive the annual salary up front. LOL.

I don't let the SB ask. I gift them after the deed based on how happy daddy is at the end of the date.

[GeorgeRichmond]

When do you all give sugar to SB? End of the meet or before? Some SB ask full upfront, half after dinner and half after the date. Thoughts?

[GeorgeRichmond]

I learned this long ago about women. It's the information they have on you that they swear the absolute very most they will NEVER use against you, that they will always use first when they are jaded. You can never be too guarded with these situations. When a woman becomes angry, she goes right for the nukes in an emotional rage and anything she has on you, will be the very first thing she uses.
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Well, She came back saying. We must trust each other. She is willing to meet now. Wow. What a turnaround. Should I still move fwd now. As looks like info sharing issue is gone? Or will she still try to investigate based on hotel room detail / info? I will try to use different name on my bookind.

[JZLizard]

I learned this long ago about women. It's the information they have on you that they swear the absolute very most they will NEVER use against you, that they will always use first when they are jaded. You can never be too guarded with these situations. When a woman becomes angry, she goes right for the nukes in an emotional rage and anything she has on you, will be the very first thing she uses.

When I was involved in my four year affair that I had hid from both my mistress and wife at the time, I purchased an investment house three years earlier into the relationship. When the house was vacant after purchase, I thought it would be a nice convenient place to bring my mistress to for a random night of sex. I didn't even think she paid attention to where the home was. During our breakup, three years later, she showed up at the front door of that home pounding on the front door demanding my tenants tell her where I was at. Scary shit! I was blown away that she had even remembered that random night and blown away even more that she went back to that house we had only been at once!

Yeah, I say retain anonymity as much as possible. On my last SB-traveling binge, I was going to be in one area for about 4-5 days. Due to all of these vacation rental websites that have made renting houses by the day feasible, I toyed with the idea of renting a nice house for my trip instead of a hotel, as there were lots of things I liked about it such as parking my car in a driveway next to the house, having lots more room and furniture possibilities for fucking etc. But I ultimately decided against it. Why? Dead easy for the girl to find out who the owner of the home is and trick them into revealing my identity. Not easy at all with a decent hotel as they have strict privacy policies in place. I also didn't like the idea that they could just drive by and see if I was there, potentially break in or screw with my car. I ended up staying in a resort that had gated security. Very nice because then I can tell the girl to follow me in with her car, and I tell the guard she's with me.

Also gives her peace of mind in terms of wondering about whether I'm safe, because she knows they have cameras all over the place, etc.

[DirtyDeeds38]

Thank JL, Tidad, HW for helping me and guiding me through this. I am glad I didn't reveal anything. I am going to pass. As it is too much txting now.

I learned this long ago about women. It's the information they have on you that they swear the absolute very most they will NEVER use against you, that they will always use first when they are jaded. You can never be too guarded with these situations. When a woman becomes angry, she goes right for the nukes in an emotional rage and anything she has on you, will be the very first thing she uses.

When I was involved in my four year affair that I had hid from both my mistress and wife at the time, I purchased an investment house three years earlier into the relationship. When the house was vacant after purchase, I thought it would be a nice convenient place to bring my mistress to for a random night of sex. I didn't even think she paid attention to where the home was. During our breakup, three years later, she showed up at the front door of that home pounding on the front door demanding my tenants tell her where I was at. Scary shit! I was blown away that she had even remembered that random night and blown away even more that she went back to that house we had only been at once!

[FredMoore]

The blogs tell the girls to confirm who you are going out with so they can tell a friend where they are and who they are with. Perhaps a reasonable request, what we would tell our daughters about a blind date. But for us married guys this will not work. It never ceases to amaze me what some of these girls will risk for the almighty dollar.

A Story: I had a M&G out of town with a 20 something. The deal was if we enjoyed dinner we would proceed to her house and spend the night. We did and I followed her home out in the deep woods, no neighbors within 2 miles. We prepared for bed and I had my travel bag with me containing candles, and other sex accouterments. She was under the covers naked with her eyes wide open and said "please don't kill me in the night, you're not a CL Killer are you? I'm thinking "WTF?" But seriously, she knew nothing about me. Fortunately for her she got a nice ride and a good nights sleep on my shoulder and survived the night. These girls do take stupid risks.

A Pot I am scheduled to see tomorrow wants a pic and I am reluctant to send her one since I don't want anything on the web with my real Pic. I'm not sure I will send her one.

[GeorgeRichmond]

God, then my answer to her would be easy: "Sweetheart sugar babying is not illegal. I'm paying for companionship only. I can't help it if we find each other irresistible and sex happens ".

Honestly though my interest in her would have waned the moment she said she was worried about a police sting, because it revealed her as a UTR or possibly back page girl rather than an SB. An true SB doesn't have police sting in her vocabulary.

Thank JL, Tidad, HW for helping me and guiding me through this. I am glad I didn't reveal anything. I am going to pass. As it is too much txting now.

[JZLizard]

Here is what she texted me.

This is a big deal for me. I want to be able to google you and your name and face show up. That's all I want.

Hahaha yes. You can find me on google. I think my twitter is the first link. But can I still verify you?

Then.

This is a big deal for me. I want to be able to google you and your name and face show up. That's all I want.

Before I drive an hour for a police sting.

She kept on going and finally says, All I want to see is a work bio. I won't google anything else. I'm not asking for much.

God, then my answer to her would be easy: "Sweetheart sugar babying is not illegal. I'm paying for companionship only. I can't help it if we find each other irresistible and sex happens ".

Honestly though my interest in her would have waned the moment she said she was worried about a police sting, because it revealed her as a UTR or possibly back page girl rather than an SB. An true SB doesn't have police sting in her vocabulary.

[Rouleur]

After a very successful start I chalk up to beginners luck, I've ran into some real lack lusters lately, but this one takes the cake. Emailed a girl on SA a week or so ago, she send one back tonight just as I'm about to call it a night. She wants to meet. She's only 25 miles away from me so I figure what the heck. We text back and forth and I was very specific with details. She agrees to them and confirmed she was "very open minded" and had no issues with being intimate. She even said since she only had a few hours, we could just mess around in the car. (she lives in a rural area.) So I pick her up at he corner store by her house. She is hot. A solid 8, super petite, blonde spinner. She is another one of these girls with tats and piercings, so 'm already red flagged about this one. We drive and she tells me where we can go park. I'm thinking out in the bushes someplace private. Well she guides me to freaking Walmart. So I started figuring out she was not going to be messing around. So due to the time limits, I just come out with it and cut right to the chase and ask her if she was still open for sex like we discussed over texting. She plays dumb, like she is confused and she just thought we were meeting for talking in the car. Than she start looking at her phone and saying she needs to be home soon. Literally ten minutes after I pick her up. I said, fine, I'll take you home and tell her again that I did not feel the agreed amount was warranted as we did nothing. She starts in with how a SD has to prove himself and should pay the girl before sex and so on. We drove back to the area I picked her up and she is acting like she is kinda pissed. So to avoid a problem, I pull out my wallet and offer up half of the $ $ we agreed on over texting. I did this to avoid any issues. She offers me a hug and jumps out. She was in my car all of 19 minutes.

I had no intentions of seeing this girl again, but I text her just to call her bluff. Sure enough she ignores me and half hour later she's back on SA.

I was mostly mad at myself and for the time wasted, not the $ I was out.

Sounds like a set up of one kind or another, none of which would have resulted in a happy ending for you. No pun intended. Others will disagree but I would have thrown her some sacrificial green as well. Just to end the date and move on. Fortunately you'll never know what would have happened if you had tossed her out of your car with nothing.

[Tidad]

Here is what she texted me.

This is a big deal for me. I want to be able to google you and your name and face show up. That's all I want.

Hahaha yes. You can find me on google. I think my twitter is the first link. But can I still verify you?

Then.

This is a big deal for me. I want to be able to google you and your name and face show up. That's all I want.

Before I drive an hour for a police sting.

She kept on going and finally says, All I want to see is a work bio. I won't google anything else. I'm not asking for much.

Work bio? Absolutely not. Your employment information plus a printout of the texts exchanged are enough for her to bleed you dry. She could easily threaten you w / www.exposingjohns.com or something of the like. It doesn't even have to be her plan right now, if you have a falling out in the future do you believe she has more to lose than you do? Does it matter? There's enough trouble in this world, don't go looking for it. Walk away. If she comes a round to some reasonable expectations then have fun, if not there are always more hot chicks.

[HollywoodGuy]

Here is what she texted me.

This is a big deal for me. I want to be able to google you and your name and face show up. That's all I want.

Hahaha yes. You can find me on google. I think my twitter is the first link. But can I still verify you?

Then.

This is a big deal for me. I want to be able to google you and your name and face show up. That's all I want.

Before I drive an hour for a police sting.

She kept on going and finally says, All I want to see is a work bio. I won't google anything else. I'm not asking for much.

I had some girl driving me crazy for pics last week. I always send a few (accurate and easy to see what I look like). Not good enough for her. After about 40 txts I told her to leave me alone.

[GeorgeRichmond]

What exactly is she trying to "verify"? Ask her specifically, is she just trying to "research you" because she wants to know? If so, you can politely remind her that you're not planning on doing any unreasonable research into her private life, because the type of arrangement you're looking for does not require this. If she says the type of arrangement she's looking for does, then pin her down on specifics. If she's being too much of a pain in the ass, then you already have reason to pass on her because she will be a much bigger pain in the ass later on.
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Here is what she texted me.

This is a big deal for me. I want to be able to google you and your name and face show up. That's all I want.

Hahaha yes. You can find me on google. I think my twitter is the first link. But can I still verify you?

Then.

This is a big deal for me. I want to be able to google you and your name and face show up. That's all I want.

Before I drive an hour for a police sting.

She kept on going and finally says, All I want to see is a work bio. I won't google anything else. I'm not asking for much.

[JZLizard]

Friends.

I am in dilemma. I met POT who is beautiful and my dream type. I could find all her info and she had 1 SD before. Also I confirmed identify as she told me. But she wants to know about my real name that she can verify. What should I do? How should I handle it? She want to verify me before going to next level.

Help me here. Should I or should I not reveal my real name. My small head is saying let's go and share. But big brain is telling me be careful.

Please advise.

If you are married or have career risks on the table I would probably pass on her. If you're single with less to lose then why not? Most of the married SDs probably won't give her their real name, so it will give you the edge over the competition. Is she forthcoming with her own real info? I've found many of them are. If she gave you all the info on herself, then you can't really blame her for expecting the same from you. We aren't playing fairly in the bowl if we expect them to be honest with us without us needing to reciprocate.

What exactly is she trying to "verify"? Ask her specifically, is she just trying to "research you" because she wants to know? If so, you can politely remind her that you're not planning on doing any unreasonable research into her private life, because the type of arrangement you're looking for does not require this. If she says the type of arrangement she's looking for does, then pin her down on specifics. If she's being too much of a pain in the ass, then you already have reason to pass on her because she will be a much bigger pain in the ass later on.

I will tell you that the most impressive SB I ever banged had some interesting opinions. She never pryed about my last name or whatever, but she mentioned more than once about how she absolutely hated married guys and that was her biggest peeve with meeting guys so far. I didn't want to get into a debate so I didn't bother to mention that most daddies are married, so she's playing with losing odds. Maybe she was trying to get me to tell more about my situation, who knows. I never told her about my girlfriend because I didn't want to screw up a perfect evening, plus I knew I wouldn't see her again and it wouldn't matter anyway.

Just tell her you are a private person and you reveal yourself to people after you know them better.

If you are married just tell her you are. Many don't care, and if that's the part she was planning to "verify" then it makes the rest of it easier.