"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Dolato]

Question for the group.

Would you pay a premium for a fuck pad over a Hotel? How much would you pay per use? Obvious advantages would be complete anonymity without check in, record keeping. Etc.

Occupancy would be by the minute / day / hour, whatever is needed. The lease holder could possibly make some money on a deal such as this.

I feel bad about not remembering the name, but there was a fellow brother who recently left the hobby that had gotten a room as his dedicated FC.

I recall he got a room off CL and it was in a home owned by an elderly lady. She did not care what was done in the room as long as it stayed in the room and he took his SBs to it when the need came up.

[Bunker Buster]

Fancy travel trailer or camper / popup: Great plan! I would love to roll up to the M&G,have drinks and bang away.

I was going to post a joke pic, but ran across this luxury bus. The mobile FC would work, but it might set you back a few mil.

http://funalso.com/funmail/lux-bus.php

[FredMoore]

Question for the group.

Would you pay a premium for a fuck pad over a Hotel? How much would you pay per use? Obvious advantages would be complete anonymity without check in, record keeping. Etc.

Occupancy would be by the minute / day / hour, whatever is needed. The lease holder could possibly make some money on a deal such as this.

[FredMoore]

1) Don't have one.

2) be a traveling salesman. Far out of town you have the ability to date in public and entertain these Pots. Most real SBs want the illusion of a relationship. They want to meet for dinner, drinks, etc. There is a thin line between escort behavior and a direct trip to the FC with a new SB.

3) don't lose her trust to start with.

The bottom line, if you have a clingy, suspicious partner it will not work out for long. Once you are caught, you will never have an easy time of it again. Ideally we should not ever get married. We should have a string of SBs. A wife can chew up far more $$ than multiple SBs. THe only exception is a working one with a high paying career. Then you can be a kept man.

Fancy travel trailer or camper / popup: Great plan! I would love to roll up to the M&G,have drinks and bang away.

[Dolato]

WTF? Women, even young they are confusing. The sure bet, turned into nothing and the one I thought I could never tap, is now a sure deal. LOL.

I think if you're batting a 1. 000 for any extended period of time, you either have a real good strong game OR: 1) paying too much 2) dealing with serial SBs / utr / pros 3) have been getting real lucky.

In my past days working sales, if ALL my bids / estimates were converting into signed contracts then I had to take a good honest look as to why and how.

[Girlmoneys]

So the girl who texted me to come on over the other night when I was out with "good girl" with no FC visit, invited me over this morning. We texted and she was open for sex. I asked her if she would like me to bring some drinks. She texts me back what type of drinks she likes, but technically never said, yea or nay to drinking. So I took that she had texted me what she liked, as a token to bring some drinks. So I stop and buy a few rounds. Go to her house way out in the middle of fucking nowhere. She opens the door in a bathrobe and shakes my hand. She is a bit heavier then she lead me to believe, but still doable as we agreed to $200 for three hours of afternoon playtime.

So I walk in and set the drinks on her coffee table, and just like your ex wife of twenty years, complete with hands on the hips and that "tone" us old formerly married mongers know all too well, she says, "what the hell is that, you do realize it's 2 pm in the afternoon, a bit early for drinking don't you think? I'm not some drunk you know" I left the drinks on her coffee table, smiled at her, said "have a nice day" and walked right the fuck out.

Get home and the "good girl" I saw the evening before texts me and said she wants to go out again, she liked me and would be ok with going to the FC after another date.u

WTF? Women, even young they are confusing. The sure bet, turned into nothing and the one I thought I could never tap, is now a sure deal. LOL.

Ain't that the truth!

LOL'd at that post.

[FotoGuy1970]

Judging from your other posts on this topic and the manor by which you were able to connect with your other girls, I don't think this was you that was the problem. This sounds like a girl having a true inner moral dilemma. This is the slight risk we take with the younger, more nave girls. Some can jump right in with both feet, no second guessing, some are tentative but come alive once they are engaged and some, like the girl you describe, think they can, but in the heat of moment when it's right there, they can't do it.

In my humble opinion, chalk it up to another experience. It's all part of the challenge and game. And it's a part I enjoy. Sure, I want sex each time, but knowing there is a chance it won't happen and I have to charm her, connect with her and such to earn it, is part of what I'm enjoying about this.

There have been a few times in my sugar career that I've been with a girl whom, once we got to the FC, had the body language of a person who would rather be anywhere else but there. It sucks, but it happens. I try to be nice and understanding about it. Most every SB I've seen has been a first-timer (or claimed to be), so I can understand why some would get cold feet once they actually get into the room, away from public eyes. Just one of the hazards of the bowl that we play in.

[DirtyDeeds38]

I've been talking with a POT off and on for almost a year. We first communicated through SA, then she's responded to CL ads I've posted at various times. Each time we've talked, something has come up that has made me decline moving forward with a M&G. But she contacted me again about a week ago and we once again started discussing a M&G. Since I was forced to dismiss my free spirit SB (or more like she dismissed herself), I was open to meeting the off and on POT as soon as possible, which turned out to be last night. She seemed totally on board with everything and she always had been very enthusiastic about doing this with me. Based on her attitude, plus the fact that this was last minute plans, plus it was getting somewhat late and I was sort of tired, I decided to skip a true M&G and just go straight to the FC. I've never skipped M&G and just gone to FC, and I need to not neglect that rule in the future so that things like what happened next can be avoided.

I picked her up and we made small talk along the way. She reaffirmed that she was down for physical stuff. I checked us in, we went to the room, sat on the bed. Made small talk while we had the TV on for background distraction. She sat as far away from me on the bed as possible. Did nothing to further conversation or attempt to make any more than basic chit-chat. Body language conveyed that she was very uncomfortable and awkward. Even when I attempted some small caresses with her, I got no response. She was not at all receptive to being touched, even lightly. Everything about her told me that she did not want to be there. When I asked if she was okay, she expressed that she was tired and if it was okay if she could just go to sleep. We slept next to each other, but there was no cuddling at all. I woke up before her and when she woke up, she still seemed so uncomfortable. She went and took a shower and while she was doing that, I made the decision to cut our date early (we were supposed to spent a full day together) and just take her home. We were clearly not working out. As it turns out, when she came out of the shower, she said she wasn't feeling good, could I take her home? On the way back to her place, we talked about how awkward things had been. We both agreed it was nice to meet each other finally. But for whatever reason, she was totally uncomfortable with it all and she never elaborated on why. She didn't ask for any money and I didn't offer. All it cost me was the room (a cheaper hotel chain, but the room was actually pretty decent for the price) and some gas money to drive 30 minutes there and back. I would be very, very surprised if I ever hear from her again.

In the meantime, I'm speaking with my SDT SB about seeing each other again while I continue to try and find a regular SB. I've reached out to a few POTs on SA that I had either met or spoken with previously, just to test the waters there. A couple of them have responded favorably about picking things up again where we left off, including one that I had met back in April that I had liked very much, but she didn't respond to my follow-up texts.

Judging from your other posts on this topic and the manor by which you were able to connect with your other girls, I don't think this was you that was the problem. This sounds like a girl having a true inner moral dilemma. This is the slight risk we take with the younger, more naïve girls. Some can jump right in with both feet, no second guessing, some are tentative but come alive once they are engaged and some, like the girl you describe, think they can, but in the heat of moment when it's right there, they can't do it.

In my humble opinion, chalk it up to another experience. It's all part of the challenge and game. And it's a part I enjoy. Sure, I want sex each time, but knowing there is a chance it won't happen and I have to charm her, connect with her and such to earn it, is part of what I'm enjoying about this.

[FotoGuy1970]

I've been talking with a POT off and on for almost a year. We first communicated through SA, then she's responded to CL ads I've posted at various times. Each time we've talked, something has come up that has made me decline moving forward with a M&G. But she contacted me again about a week ago and we once again started discussing a M&G. Since I was forced to dismiss my free spirit SB (or more like she dismissed herself), I was open to meeting the off and on POT as soon as possible, which turned out to be last night. She seemed totally on board with everything and she always had been very enthusiastic about doing this with me. Based on her attitude, plus the fact that this was last minute plans, plus it was getting somewhat late and I was sort of tired, I decided to skip a true M&G and just go straight to the FC. I've never skipped M&G and just gone to FC, and I need to not neglect that rule in the future so that things like what happened next can be avoided.

I picked her up and we made small talk along the way. She reaffirmed that she was down for physical stuff. I checked us in, we went to the room, sat on the bed. Made small talk while we had the TV on for background distraction. She sat as far away from me on the bed as possible. Did nothing to further conversation or attempt to make any more than basic chit-chat. Body language conveyed that she was very uncomfortable and awkward. Even when I attempted some small caresses with her, I got no response. She was not at all receptive to being touched, even lightly. Everything about her told me that she did not want to be there. When I asked if she was okay, she expressed that she was tired and if it was okay if she could just go to sleep. We slept next to each other, but there was no cuddling at all. I woke up before her and when she woke up, she still seemed so uncomfortable. She went and took a shower and while she was doing that, I made the decision to cut our date early (we were supposed to spent a full day together) and just take her home. We were clearly not working out. As it turns out, when she came out of the shower, she said she wasn't feeling good, could I take her home? On the way back to her place, we talked about how awkward things had been. We both agreed it was nice to meet each other finally. But for whatever reason, she was totally uncomfortable with it all and she never elaborated on why. She didn't ask for any money and I didn't offer. All it cost me was the room (a cheaper hotel chain, but the room was actually pretty decent for the price) and some gas money to drive 30 minutes there and back. I would be very, very surprised if I ever hear from her again.

In the meantime, I'm speaking with my SDT SB about seeing each other again while I continue to try and find a regular SB. I've reached out to a few POTs on SA that I had either met or spoken with previously, just to test the waters there. A couple of them have responded favorably about picking things up again where we left off, including one that I had met back in April that I had liked very much, but she didn't respond to my follow-up texts.

[JZLizard]

Who has to change the sheets?

Yeah, when you put it that way maybe not such a good idea.

[JZLizard]

WTF? Women, even young they are confusing. The sure bet, turned into nothing and the one I thought I could never tap, is now a sure deal. LOL.

The one thing I've learned so far is to handle every SB under the assumption she is fundamentally broken as a person. Of course, they aren't all really that volatile, but so many of them are that it's just safer to assume they are and handle with care (or avoid handling altogether where appropriate).

I think you did the right thing by walking away from the loose wheel, I would have done same and probably taken drinks with me. I think it's better to see them in person before talking money (but then again I never talk money anyway I just gift them after the fact).

[DirtyDeeds38]

So the girl who texted me to come on over the other night when I was out with "good girl" with no FC visit, invited me over this morning. We texted and she was open for sex. I asked her if she would like me to bring some drinks. She texts me back what type of drinks she likes, but technically never said, yea or nay to drinking. So I took that she had texted me what she liked, as a token to bring some drinks. So I stop and buy a few rounds. Go to her house way out in the middle of fucking nowhere. She opens the door in a bathrobe and shakes my hand. She is a bit heavier then she lead me to believe, but still doable as we agreed to $200 for three hours of afternoon playtime.

So I walk in and set the drinks on her coffee table, and just like your ex wife of twenty years, complete with hands on the hips and that "tone" us old formerly married mongers know all too well, she says, "what the hell is that, you do realize it's 2 pm in the afternoon, a bit early for drinking don't you think? I'm not some drunk you know" I left the drinks on her coffee table, smiled at her, said "have a nice day" and walked right the fuck out.

Get home and the "good girl" I saw the evening before texts me and said she wants to go out again, she liked me and would be ok with going to the FC after another date.

WTF? Women, even young they are confusing. The sure bet, turned into nothing and the one I thought I could never tap, is now a sure deal. LOL.

[Dolato]

Your post gave me a great idea. SugarDaddy timeshare rentals, complete with online FC booking / scheduling. Where do I sign up?

Who has to change the sheets?

[JZLizard]

Kinda slow lately. The best I could come up with this week was a smoking hot 18 year old that offered a HJ but no sex for $. I might see her Tuesday just to get my hands on her amazing body. Sometime (but rarely) you can convert a HJ or BJ only date to something more down the road. She only lives 3 minutes from me so that's helpful. Also going to look at a tiny but perfect single to use as an FC that's only 10 minutes from me. I miss out on too many opportunities due to not wanting to take a strange girl to my place. And I like a lot of nando 1 girls. Just to hookup. So I am checking into it. 7 to 8 hundred a month. I may try it for a year. My home is kind of homey plus I have a kid. Sometimes a place like this can amp up the sexiness of the date, as obviously there is only one reason to be there.

Your post gave me a great idea. SugarDaddy timeshare rentals, complete with online FC booking / scheduling. Where do I sign up?

[DirtyDeeds38]

Kinda slow lately. The best I could come up with this week was a smoking hot 18 year old that offered a HJ but no sex for $. I might see her Tuesday just to get my hands on her amazing body. Sometime (but rarely) you can convert a HJ or BJ only date to something more down the road. She only lives 3 minutes from me so that's helpful. Also going to look at a tiny but perfect single to use as an FC that's only 10 minutes from me. I miss out on too many opportunities due to not wanting to take a strange girl to my place. And I like a lot of nando 1 girls. Just to hookup. So I am checking into it. 7 to 8 hundred a month. I may try it for a year. My home is kind of homey plus I have a kid. Sometimes a place like this can amp up the sexiness of the date, as obviously there is only one reason to be there.

Also got an offer for FS from a white 24 year old utr I did like 3 years ago. But she is not really my type. A little tall and heavier than I like.

I'm setting up the same, but with my RV. And it's not a "camper" it's late model luxury cruiser with two slides all the amenities of a penthouse on wheels. Going to sign on to a resort style RV park and bring my dates there. This will cut down on the expensive hotels and hopefully they are willing to dine and drink with me there. Of the few girls I've had in, they LOVED it! I even met one in a Walmart parking lot once and banged her there, with all the shoppers walking by. Curtains closed, slides out, generator and AC running. She got a huge thrill out of having sex with shoppers literally feet away who were clueless. LOL.

I have a few questions about abbreviations and yes, I read the forum and abbreviation chart and these are not on there. UTR, BC and nando 1 definitions?