"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[BikeRider]

My brothers,

In Yoga News, my hot teacher baby has not been spotted, at least by me, in the past month or so, and I am beginning to wonder if she is still teaching there. Of course I could inquire, but I fear that would tip my hand. I could also book a private lesson through her website, but again, that might alert NORAD that an unauthorized flight plan was being filed, thereby disrupting detente at HQ just before the holidays. I had enough of Christmas Hostilities growing up to knowingly inflict them upon myself. In an odd but extremely enticing turn of events, both my ATF and my Maligned Baby have expressed a strong desire to take bikram classes with me. Of course I told them both yes, since the thought of seeing them each covered in sweat, skimpy clothes clinging to them like paint, is something that I can't pass up. I don't know how many more years I have in the Bowl, and I need to lock in some memories for when I am drooling in a rocker on the front porch of the Old Folks Home. Hopefully Scottie will be paying attention as well, so he can back me up if memory should fail.

...

Scott.

It's a bit forward, but why don't you drop her an email at her site and ask if she's going to be teaching at your studio again? If she says, no then you can schedule a private without the NORAD alert. If she says yes, then you can see about a coffee after the class.

No risk. No reward. From your posts, she seems worth giving it a shot.

[HollywoodGuy]

10-Dec Did a M & G with a 25 year old pretty AA girl. Maybe a 8/8.5/9/?. She was 5'5' and 120 lbs. Took her to dinner. Going to see her Friday for a real date at my place. X reality TV show participant. Has a good job and goes to school. Owns a decent car and lives only minutes away. Good personality. She thought it was sexy that I have a few regulars. It got her to thinking there must be a reason. I think we hit it off pretty good.

11-Dec Had a minor groin pull from the prior weeks activities. No sex yesterday or today. Skipping going to the strip club private Christmas party tonite to help speed up recovery. Also my girlfriend is worried that the other strippers will try to go to town on me (even sans tipping) to ruin my boyfriend reputation so they can all gossip about it later. As boyfriends are not even allowed in the club (management rules) it is kind of a big deal just to officially be on the guest list, as it is a once a year invitation only party for the regulars. So I can kill 2 birds with one stone (and save a bundle, because I would still have to pay for the dances) by just staying home. The girl I did the M & G with yesterday emailed me today to tell me she changed her mind about seeing me again. She said my kissing addiction was a deal breaker as she does not like kissing. Had another POT tell me today we needed to set a date even though she flaked on the first one. I'll give her another chance because she is 20, a student, and works 2 jobs and has that exotic baby doll look I can't resist. More on her after the date.

12-Dec Day 3 of my recovery. Hope it all goes well as I have a roommate date at 9 pm. And set up a M & G for Friday with the afore mentioned girl that flaked, that may or may not go to the FC. But if the chemistry is there she says she is willing. She gets a twenty to show up as it is an 80 mile RT drive for her to see me and $ if we proceed south of the border. She is a 20 year old 8/8/9/? so far. Mixed exotic looking black / mexican? As a side note, I have been off my daily low dose of vitamin C for 3 days and I still can't seem to stop getting spontaneous erections. A quality problem for sure. Roommate date went as per usual. Sweet and Sexy.

13-Dec Met with the exotic 20 year old student at my home at 4:30. She turned out to be a 9/7/9/9. She was 5'5' and about 150 lbs but with the face of an angel. She was much prettier than her pics and thick in all the right places (as they like to say). Black / mexican / pinay mix with naturally soft hair and beautiful soft skin with a nice even tone. We wasted about 5 minutes before getting right to the kissing and cuddling on the sofa. This led to some pretty hot fucking and sucking. Two hours later we took a break so I could pick up my roommate from the nail salon where I had dropped her off minutes before the other girls arrival. So I drove with the date to the salon, picked up my roommate, came back to the house and hit it for another 45 minutes. She loved to suck and would have gone on for another hour if I let her. Exhausted I went to bed at 9 pm and woke up at 8 Saturday morning. I guess she was a deep undercover UTR girl as her skills, calm demeanor and willingness to comply were all just TGTBT. She is definitely an awesome booty call girl worth repeating. Total damage was $. The double pierced tongue (pictured) was a new one for me.

14-Dec Taking my roommate to the hair salon at 1. No other plans for today other than to work. Lots of activity on the SD site. Must be the holidays. Girls needing money for gifts. I always use my downtime to catch up on my prospects.

15-Dec I see I have 8 hot UTR girls (all 19 to 22) on my spreadsheet that have all agreed to my $ offer that I never even followed up on, as I am trying to avoid the obvious pros. The non pro search continues. Looking forward to my roommate date tonight. I only have a couple interesting POTS at this time. Lets see if any of them pull through.

[AliasSM]

I went through a couple of weeks farming CL pretty heavily. Met with 2 women that were definitely UTR girls, neither as attractive as the pics they sent. One was pretty good in bed, but they were both one time deals, I think. Right when I was ready to quit I came across a 18 year old that actually sounds like she could be SB material, and the pics are of a cute spinner. She told me she had dumper a SD because he got crazy and cheap-they had some kind of submissive thing going on that apparently went too far for her. I am still texting with her trying to set up a M&G, we'll see what happens. Other than that I'm back to SA.

I have to agree with the overall CL feedback I have read so far. I do occasionally post an add there just to see what I can find. I always seem to get a few legit responses, but the overall lower quality and higher risks haven't been worth the effort. About a year ago I was seeing an AA MILF for a month or so that responded to one of my adds. She was OK, price was right, but drama was pretty high. Finally ended it when she told me her lights were cut off and got mad when I wouldn't foot the bill to pay her bill. Recently had another hit from an add that I had given up on a month earlier. She is a 30 something WF, a couple of kids, needed help with expenses. I met her once and it was just OK. She turned out to be a 5-6 in looks and rushed me through a visit way too fast for my tastes.

I just have never found that diamond in the rough on that site that we all seem to be looking for. By far, SA has been the best overall source for me.

Alias.

[F Scott]

HippyBaby, 30 – There must be something in the water in New Orleans. I know Scotty was smitten with an SB from there and the same thing happened to me back in Feb. I was there on business and put out some requests and she responded. We met and there was immediate chemistry. She's a native of NO so knew some great hole-in-the-wall restaurants. We saw each other two times during my trip ending up back in my room for an evening of fun both times. I've gone back to NO to see her, she's been to ATL to see me and we've met once in Portland, OR and in San Diego on recent business trips. She spends half the year in Northern CA helping with the "harvest". She is a total van driving, sometimes van living, free-spirit hippie type. She's definitely a departure from my conservative nature, which is probably why I enjoy her so much. She occasionally asks for help with her cell or storage bill, but aside from that is happy with whatever sugar I give her.

Happy Hunting,

Travelin.

Ah, Travelin, my brother, I hear you.

There is something about Nola that, when it hits you, it hits hard. In thinking about it since I met my baby down there, I think it is the underlying but all-pervasive sense of hedonism that spreads across the entire city. Down there, life is not just meant to be lived, but to be enjoyed to its fullest, every minute of every day.

Your baby sounds fantastic, and is exactly my fantasy type, which would surprise you if you would ever see what I look like. Picture a nerdy, 56 yo Ferris Beuhler, but with half his game at best, and you are close. But I just love those crazy, artsy, hippy babies, and thankfully they seem to love me back. I wonder if yours is someone I might have contacted on my first trip down there. Once I met My Infatuation, I passed on all others, so don't worry about me poaching your claim LOL!

Should we ever find outselves in the Crescent City at the same time, too many beers are an absolute must!

Scott.

[Dsprdo]

I have been hitting CL hard. I do get some responses from legitimate non pros, pros and UTR's. But most of them have not been cute enough to follow through on, or they were too expensive. I missed out on a couple winners (true non pros) cuz I was too busy with other girls. So I am continuing to work it for now. Tons of spam replies, but they don't bother me, I just delete them.

I went through a couple of weeks farming CL pretty heavily. Met with 2 women that were definitely UTR girls, neither as attractive as the pics they sent. One was pretty good in bed, but they were both one time deals, I think. Right when I was ready to quit I came across a 18 year old that actually sounds like she could be SB material, and the pics are of a cute spinner. She told me she had dumper a SD because he got crazy and cheap-they had some kind of submissive thing going on that apparently went too far for her. I am still texting with her trying to set up a M&G, we'll see what happens. Other than that I'm back to SA.

[HollywoodGuy]

So has anyone had any experience with some of the other sites? I am in the process of trying Craigslist and I posted my ad on Women For Men and it got flagged every time. I did not put anything in there that was offensive or dirty. I did not put the words sugar daddy or sugar baby or even the intials. But it still got flagged. First it would tell me the ad was posted and give me a link. And I could see it on the link put never see it if I went in normal. And then about an hour later it would get flagged. Anyone have this problem?

I am also looking into Ashley Madison, Social Sex, and Arrangement Finders. I will report back my experiences but anyone try any of these so far?

If so how did it go? Details?

Thanks,

Revvo.

I have been hitting CL hard. I do get some responses from legitimate non pros, pros and UTR's. But most of them have not been cute enough to follow through on, or they were too expensive. I missed out on a couple winners (true non pros) cuz I was too busy with other girls. So I am continuing to work it for now. Tons of spam replies, but they don't bother me, I just delete them.

[TravelinSD]

I guess it's about time I post about my life in the bowl thus far. Here's the Reader's Digest version of my past: I started in the escort world for about 25 years, about 3 yrs ago one of my ATFs left escorting and turned into my SB. That was great for a year until my wife found out. Within a month both my wife and the SB were gone. I've been in the open bowl for about 2 yrs now using both SA and SD4M as my main sources. I found this forum about 6 months into my quest and it has been a wealth of knowledge. Like most that have been at this for any length of time I've run the gamut from wonderful, sweet ladies, to UTR ladies, to crazy bitches, to outright scam artists. I've learned a lot, but am still gullible at times to the "damsel in distress". I'm working on that last one and think I have it out of my system, LOL.

Here are a few of my "old ladies" they range in age from 26-30:

FriendBaby, 26 – This is by far my longest. We've been seeing each other for around 18 months. We're actually more friends than SD / SB, I guess you'd call it FWB. We text or talk a few times a week, but rarely hook up anymore. When we do we have a great time though. She really doesn't expect sugar anymore, but I usually give her some anyway. She's a single mom with 2 kids and going to college.

MSBaby, 29 – This is my strangest one. You really can't call her an SB even though we met off of SA. She's the resourceful one that used my email address to find my original posts on here (I stupidly used a derivative of my email as my name here, duh! Here's the thing. She's absolutely gorgeous! Her face is a 10 in anyone's book, with a 9 body. Smart as hell and one of the most sexual women I've ever met. Here's the problem, we only have sporadic periods of seeing each other, but text each other a few times a week. There's lots of baggage here. She's in an "open" marriage, with a kid, has a major eventually debilitating disease. MS and runs her own business. Add to that she's a total narcissist. But, I'm REALLY attracted to her somehow. Anyway, the price is right. Free. So I deal with all the rest for the occasional fireworks show.

HippyBaby, 30 – There must be something in the water in New Orleans. I know Scotty was smitten with an SB from there and the same thing happened to me back in Feb. I was there on business and put out some requests and she responded. We met and there was immediate chemistry. She's a native of NO so knew some great hole-in-the-wall restaurants. We saw each other two times during my trip ending up back in my room for an evening of fun both times. I've gone back to NO to see her, she's been to ATL to see me and we've met once in Portland, OR and in San Diego on recent business trips. She spends half the year in Northern CA helping with the "harvest". She is a total van driving, sometimes van living, free-spirit hippie type. She's definitely a departure from my conservative nature, which is probably why I enjoy her so much. She occasionally asks for help with her cell or storage bill, but aside from that is happy with whatever sugar I give her.

These 3 really cost me very little, so last summer I began the search for my unicorn. A mature, hot 18-21 year old, that I could turn into a long-term baby. I'll report my success in that arena in a future post.

Happy Hunting,

Travelin.

[TravelinSD]

I've also tried AF as well. Like SA and SB4 M, it depends on your area and which sites the ladies use. Here in Atlanta there's a fair number of ladies on it and I got a fair number of hits. Nothing lasting though.

Travelin.

So has anyone had any experience with some of the other sites? I am in the process of trying Craigslist and I posted my ad on Women For Men and it got flagged every time. I did not put anything in there that was offensive or dirty. I did not put the words sugar daddy or sugar baby or even the intials. But it still got flagged. First it would tell me the ad was posted and give me a link. And I could see it on the link put never see it if I went in normal. And then about an hour later it would get flagged. Anyone have this problem?

I am also looking into Ashley Madison, Social Sex, and Arrangement Finders. I will report back my experiences but anyone try any of these so far?

If so how did it go? Details?

Thanks,

Revvo.

[Revvo]

Since you started talking about AM. I have been on the site for two years. In those two years I have had six hookups. Two out of town fucks, and four local girls. Found some freaky girls on AM. Don't give up on AM, just be consistent and patient. Lots of competition out there. I am working on a new AM girl met yesterday. Maybe I will be up to Seven soon.

I have tried Ashley Madison and my luck has been the same as Fred's and Scott's. Terrible. Thanks for the input guys. And this is coming from two very experienced mongers. Feedback from Tigg was the same by the way. I am not going to tell you how many credits I spent but it was a lot and all I got to show for it was a lot of how should I put this politely. Stuck up 40 YO's with no photo and not personality. Now I am patient. I am willing to spend money. I am a Sugar Daddy that has spent plenty. Too much in fact. I have a good profile and I have some game.

What did I get for it? A few very tepid responses. Two SB's that wanted to hookup for money. Both were too far away. By the way the SB's told me that my profile was perfect, and too good to be true. And their comments were unsolicited. And then there was one actual hookup that really wanted to meet. But she had no personality either and when she did send a photo. Well lets just say I wouldn't fuck her with your dick. LOL A 4 at the most.

And I am not picky. I realize these are mostly married women and I accounted for the few extra pounds and years. But they act as if they are in the sweepstakes of a lifetime. Anyway I believe the ratio is way out of whack. Someone told me that its around 60% men to 40% women. If that is the case. Heaven help the man who has worked this system. Just for comparison the ratio on SD4 Me is around 90% women to 10% men.

Now Virginia Guy you say that you have had success. That is awesome. Give us details. Let us in on your secrets. Don't have to show the profile. But we are here to learn from each other. I have shared countless anecdotes and lessons over the past year. You could write a book on what I have contributed here. Please fill us in.

Be careful out there. And stay away from Ashley Madison unless you just want to spend money to get ignored.

Revvo.

[TravelinSD]

I wrote an extensive post about AM a few months ago. My findings were: unless you're under 50, preferably under 40 and pretty attractive it's a tough road. It really is the ladies game there. They're picky because a. They can be. And b. If they're going to risk their marriage they want it to be with the perfect fantasy. I'm sure there are exceptions, but I just didn't find it cost effective to keep spending money on credits to search for them. Add to that, if you read the fine print, they admit to using fake profiles for "entertainment" value, plus keep charging you a monthly maintenance fee until you call to cancel it.

Just my opinion.

Travelin.

So has anyone had any experience with some of the other sites? I am in the process of trying Craigslist and I posted my ad on Women For Men and it got flagged every time. I did not put anything in there that was offensive or dirty. I did not put the words sugar daddy or sugar baby or even the intials. But it still got flagged. First it would tell me the ad was posted and give me a link. And I could see it on the link put never see it if I went in normal. And then about an hour later it would get flagged. Anyone have this problem?

I am also looking into Ashley Madison, Social Sex, and Arrangement Finders. I will report back my experiences but anyone try any of these so far?

If so how did it go? Details?

Thanks,

Revvo.

[F Scott]

Bikram Yoga: Am doing it and it is hard as the dickens but I can see the benefits. My SO and I do it together so I have to be careful not to ogle the 20 yr old hotties with no clothes on. Sigh!! I do look intensely to study the poses.-academic interest only of course.

Other sites: Revvo, I have worked AM pretty hard and have had 0 success. A lot of hot milfs there unhappily married but I can't seem to get them to buy my line. CL got one Nando 1 off there who was a decent fuck for a 19 yr old but flaked when I tried to repeat. Fling I got one super sexual MILF from there but she was too chubby for my taste.

ATF #4 is back in town and we are back in the weekly saddle. She loves fucking and time with her is just a joy. BC baby is a weekly or biweekly hookup and she is young and tight. So I am squeaking in 1 to 1 1/2 visits / week.

Hey Fred,

I'm glad you have discovered the wonder that is bikram. As you say, it is hard, but undeniably beneficial. Plus there are all those super-toned hotties. I applaud your willingness to study the babies in your class, purely to improve your own practice, of course! My Saturday class has a handful of 20 somethings, but mostly it is a group of the hottest MILFS I have ever seen. Taught, limber and sweaty. Hooray!

As for other sites, Rev, I tried AM a year or so ago, and got absolutely nowhere either. The only people to contact me wanted me to go to another site to "verify that I was for real", and of course be charged for the priveledge. I think Big Tigg may have had some luck with AM, but I think he could conjure something fuckable out of a bag of rocks, so that doesn't really count for the rest of us. My favorite is SA, followed by SD4 Me. I tried CL a while back, but again, no luck, only fakes and flakes, and a tranny who wanted to blindfold me and give me a BJ. Uh, no thanks.

Joy to you all.

Scott.

[Virginia Guy]

Since you started talking about AM. I have been on the site for two years. In those two years I have had six hookups. Two out of town fucks, and four local girls. Found some freaky girls on AM. Don't give up on AM, just be consistent and patient. Lots of competition out there. I am working on a new AM girl met yesterday. Maybe I will be up to Seven soon.

[FredMoore]

Hollywood: You roommate is darling! Congrats for having such a satisfying relationship. It makes me miss my Asian ATF #3 I love Asians!

Scotty: you are a stitch and I always enjoy your musings! I'm glad you are getting laid some anyway. As one parolee to another life in the suspect booth is trying to say the least.

Bikram Yoga: Am doing it and it is hard as the dickens but I can see the benefits. My SO and I do it together so I have to be careful not to ogle the 20 yr old hotties with no clothes on. Sigh!! I do look intensely to study the poses.-academic interest only of course.

Other sites: Revvo, I have worked AM pretty hard and have had 0 success. A lot of hot milfs there unhappily married but I can't seem to get them to buy my line. CL got one Nando 1 off there who was a decent fuck for a 19 yr old but flaked when I tried to repeat. Fling I got one super sexual MILF from there but she was too chubby for my taste.

ATF #4 is back in town and we are back in the weekly saddle. She loves fucking and time with her is just a joy. BC baby is a weekly or biweekly hookup and she is young and tight. So I am squeaking in 1 to 1 1/2 visits / week.

[Revvo]

So has anyone had any experience with some of the other sites? I am in the process of trying Craigslist and I posted my ad on Women For Men and it got flagged every time. I did not put anything in there that was offensive or dirty. I did not put the words sugar daddy or sugar baby or even the intials. But it still got flagged. First it would tell me the ad was posted and give me a link. And I could see it on the link put never see it if I went in normal. And then about an hour later it would get flagged. Anyone have this problem?

I am also looking into Ashley Madison, Social Sex, and Arrangement Finders. I will report back my experiences but anyone try any of these so far?

If so how did it go? Details?

Thanks,

Revvo.

[HollywoodGuy]

For the last month or so I have been getting back to the girls that turned me down to see if I can negotiate with them. I have some very strong arguments for my side. So far none of them has pulled through. With all 3 of my regular girls (and some past SB's as well) I basically hit it off with them right from the get go.

At this point I would have to say, that in my case anyway, it's either a home run or a strike out. Every girl I have struck out with, when I got another at bat, I struck out again. Just an observation.