"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**TravelinSD** · 09-16-13 13:44

Hi everyone! I posted a fair amount about my SB experiences back in the spring of 2012. I got busy and stopped for a while, then I had an industrious POT ferret out my membership on this board. Boy was THAT a stupendously stupid leak in security. I'm not married (at least anymore, LOL) so it didn't matter to me from a blackmail or spouse or SO finding out, but still made me feel uncomfortable posting after that. I'm sure she's not still checking up on me, so I've decided to jump back into the fray and Jackson was good enough to allow for a change in name to give me a "fresh" start. To those that have been on the board for awhile you may remember me as the first 3 letters of a large city in GA combined with what Ringo was for the Beatles. Here's the Reader's Digest version of how I started in this world:

Boy meets girl.

Boy marries girl.

Sex stops.

Boy meets escorts.

Boy decides to find SB.

Boy meets escort that turns into SB.

Boy and SB happy for a year.

Wife finds out.

Wife divorces boy.

SB dumps boy.

Boy turns to SA and SDFM.

That was 20 months ago. Since then I've been on a wild ride in this world of ours and have experienced joy and frustration and the highest highs and the lowest lows. I've met some incredible women one of which has turned into a close friend and I've met some of the best actresses and scam artists you could imagine. I found this board early on in my journey and read every post from the beginning and have continued reading every post up until now. The depth and breadth of experience on this thread amazes me. It's helped so much along the way and I hope to add to it again.

That's it for now. I'll give my current status of babies and relate some harrowing tales in my upcoming posts.

It's good to be back,

Travelin

**Member #5570** · 09-16-13 13:36

Originally Posted by Walruscl [View Original Post]

S.

Thus the trips into the time machine continue-I have now officially been given a blow job in a movie theater

Brother, you just enjoyed the best movie in your life. .

This truly bring back memories.

**Member #5570** · 09-16-13 13:28

So after almost a year of chasing a sweet young girl's tails, I am finally close to my destination.

Been txting with this 18yr little spinner, and our date is set for tomorrow at the FC. So, she looks extremely low maintenance for now. All it will cost me tomorrow is the room, and $40 for her cab fares to get to / from the room.

She only needed some new shoes and have her hair done once a month. And may be few dollars here and there (her words). Not sure how that 'few dollars' will turn out, and I made it clear to her that if she constantly bugs me every week with 'requests', then this is over before she knows it, and she promised she's not that type of girl. But she likes to shop at Forever 21 for clothes, and Walmart for makeups. This is the first time ever, I've talk a girl that like to shop at those places instead of Nordstrom, Armani Exchange, etc.

I'll post update after tomorrow. So far, everything seems locked for the 'date', but you never really know until you've bagged it.

**FredMoore** · 09-16-13 12:40

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1875666]This is for the newbies on SD4M that are curious about the UTR designation. These are all girls I have messaged at some point that were either UTR or Pro. I saw a few for $. Didn't see a few because they were $$ or more. All of them had a set amount to go straight to the FC. No real SB's in here. The top group are UTR. The bottom group are pros. Maybe from looking at these you can see an obvious pattern. Most are AA, because thats what I like. I could ad 20 more profiles but I think this is enough to get the point across.

UTR.

Excellent point Hollywood. Common threads are 3, at least for SDFM. 1) SD age desired is (any) 0 to 90; 2) Total access member; and 3) have 9 pics available to see.

SA is harder to guess but they are usually on the site for years. Naifs frequently delete their profile after 6 to 12 months. If the girls are constantly on there and checking the site everyday they are usually lining up a string.

**Nostra3** · 09-16-13 11:50

Originally Posted by BigTigger [View Original Post]

I wholeheartedly agree. I've been amazed at the quality of good women out here in the suga world. Now I will dip below the 8s and 9s every now and then but usually they turn out to be great in bed. This is why I didn't understand Nostra who just wants to get in the GPS pants, but "hey" to each his own. I've literally been trying to scale back because my life is busier and I have a hard time saying "no". I've always been only willing to go up to about $.5 per meeting, but in many cases. Once the chemistry is there and you are giving them multiple ogasms, the money becomes less of an issue.

I definitely understand where everyone is coming from. I do want an SD / SB relationship and I actually consider a transactional only relationship to be not what I am looking for. However, I guess what I was saying was that at point where we were in the conversation I had decided this was not going to be anything more than a one time bang so I just was trying to figure out how to get said bang. I let my desire for very hot and young overshadow my real target. So, thank you to everyone for the great advice. I took it and I am currently working on a few new POTs and I hope to be able to contribute to the conversation going forward!

**HollywoodGuy** · 09-16-13 00:18

**Walruscl** · 09-16-13 00:11

So my SB, after hard work and persistence, is finally in school again and getting her life on track. When I picked her up after the first week she was such the college girl with her logo'ed sweatshirt and new backpack. Adorable, and most importantly, happier than I'd seen in a long time.

She continues to have a drive that's just off the charts, and I continue to be amazed at how into me she is. Surely she must be seeing a different guy than I do in the mirror.

She's also full of surprises. I recently had a weekend day unexpectedly to myself. It had started really, really badly, so even though I was getting some stuff done I was also wallowing a bit. On impulse I texted her to see if we could get together after her work, figuring maybe the break would cheer me up. I wasn't up for more than just some nice companionship, so I offered a low-key dinner and movie. I. E, a civvie date.

Apparently her idea of what one does at a movie is very different from mine.

We get there right on time, and thinking nothing of it, I chose an empty row with a few rows of space between us and some other people. I was shooting for enough discretion to be able to snuggle without it being PDA, especially given our age gap. It's an IMAX, so the steep slope and high-back seats provide some privacy.

We curl up to watch the movie, and not long afterwards her hand starts to roam. Sensual but innocuous at first, so I'm just enjoying the touching. She then starts to venture lower, then under, then some unbuckling and direct contact. Each step of the way is incremental enough that I'm not really putting up a fight, and so far it's all pretty discreet given the setting. But before I know it, she drops to the floor in front of me, gives the drawers a quick yank and starts going to town. At this point she has me thoroughly seduced, and the thrill is intoxicating. She has no intention of letting me off the hook, so she's got me pinned to the seat for at least twenty minutes while she brings me to the finish line.

On our way out she clues me in to the fact that while the rows provide some privacy, it wasn't enough to completely hide from the couple two rows back. While they weren't getting a peep show, apparently it was pretty clear what was going on. She found it amusing, though I'm glad I didn't find out until afterward. Not sure I would have had *that* much of a sense of adventure (!)

And you would never, ever guess that this sexual creature lurks below her sweet, innocent, slightly nerdy exterior. I *definitely* look at people in a new light now.

Thus the trips into the time machine continue-I have now officially been given a blow job in a movie theater. Something I would have given anything for when I was a teenager, and at this point in my life never thought I would experience. Just, wow.

**Revvo** · 09-15-13 10:35

All in all this has been a pretty damn good week. Lots of activity. Less and less frenetic, less money spent and some really good quality fucking. Not everything I planned it would be but it never is brothers. LOL So lets run the numbers.

REVVO_ATF: Like I said on the last update I am kind of easing her out. For a couple of reasons. First she is hard to pin down because of her travel to NY. Second I have others that are exciting me quite a bit more. And finally she costs more than all of the others. She may be the prettiest of the bunch and she is my asian baby. But its 250 for sugar. 80 for hotel. 50 for lunch and other costs. That puts the cost at close to 400. Hell I have some babies that my total nut for three nuts (haha) is 150. That is another thing we usually only go for two times. Even though she is willing two nuts is all I am really interested in with her. She texted me this week and I did not hook up with her.

REVVO_POT1: Never responded back. She is off the list.

REVVO_POT3: She flaked a second time and I get what I deserve for trusting a flake. Usually when I have a flake I schedule a second backup piece of ass since I hate the hole in my schedule. This time I just ate crow and did not say anything. She has problems I believe. Once again in that normal range that wants to make the leap and even told me at one point that I am her love. But she cannot bring herself to do anything. She is off the list.

REVVO_SB1: This is my cute little blond Boston Baby. But not calling her she is on the back burner. I am sure eventually she will lose interest and will move on to someone else. But as of now she is a booty call baby that I really do not need since I have plenty of quality pussy to keep me busy for now.

REVVO_SB2: So this is my little Brazillian baby and we had a great time on Friday. She is a no sugar baby and now she is hosting. She lives in a nice gated apartment complex and is so so sexy. She has the most sensuous and sexy voice and demeanor. I could fuck her all day long. In fact she is so orgasmic when I was eating her pussy it was dripping wet and running down the crack of her ass to the sheets. She came repeatedly and hard. Begging me to fuck her. And I did. When they are this sexual it motivates me more and I did three nuts in the span of about three hours. Can't always do that but when the mind is in the right place it is awesome. She is also so loud and cums so hard shaking and quivering and staring into my eyes with that glazed over look. I left her asleep in her bed.

REVVO_SB3: So my little morrocan contacted me again. And wants to meet but I do not. And she tried to ask me for money but I said no. So she just said ok. She is there if I want her. But do not really.

REVVO_SB4: My little Columbian coconut contacted me to let me know she had a dream about me bending her over and fucking her with her ass up in the air and her face shoved into a pillow. It was a nice image. But I did not have the time to see her. She is a good booty call baby also.

REVVO_SB5: This is my little euro baby. Same story no contact and she is kind of drifting in the background. She is one of the highest quality but like my ATF she does interest me but not as much as my others. And she is more expensive. Also back burner. I am going to have to ease some of these out. She is so sweet, I hate to do it.

REVVO_SB6: So this is my little girl next door. This is the one that had the report of the loan for money. I did make the loan / gift and she was extremely grateful and mentioned several times that she would repay me this Monday with her paycheck. I told her that we could just do an extra visit and call it even. She even was worried about this as not being fair to me. I was really impressed. I must say I worried about this whole thing a lot at the beginning but now I must say. This has not been a problem so far. We had a visit after the loan and she even told me I did not need to give her anything but I did anyway. And the sex is getting better and better. We are getting closer and more intimate. She is very young 23YO so she is still learning to express herself sexually but she is getting more trusting more affectionate and more verbal. We fucked hard and often, she also came hard several times, and she told me my cock is amazing. Usually a good sign when they start to tell you how much they like your dick. This is looking like real ATF material here. I am giving her a 9/8/9/7 as my updated rating.

REVVO_SB7: My little Venezualan cheerleader. She warned me before I came over on Thursday that she was starting her period, very cool of her. But I said I would come over anyway and we could do other things. She happily agreed but then called to tell me she has a migraine that she gets sometimes during period. She missed two days of work because of it. But now we are scheduled for two visits next week. I can hardly wait. She is very very sexually aggressive and capable for a 25YO. I am giving her a 8/9/9/10 for my updated rating. I could realistically see SB6 and SB7 being my two regulars and not needing any others except for booty call purposes.

I have done the math and I could probably do both of these for about 1500 to 1800 in the month. Or put them on small allowances and get it even down lower. As you noticed there are no new POTs and most of these POTs are coming off the list. I have not been on the site for two weeks and my membership expired four weeks ago. And I do not feel the need to get on there. In addition the babies I do have are either back burner or being eased out. Things are looking so much better. I am spending less money and having so much more fun. I am in a good place and I have to look back on what I have accomplished sometimes to understand how far I have come. I did the numbers there were about 7 or eight babies I could have potentially fucked last week. So the availability is there. But really only three that I am interested in. Of course everything could change tomorrow in this crazy world we call the sugar bowl.

What about the rest of you guys? Where are the real SD's and their reports? Enough lurking give it up.

Be careful out there.

REVVO

**BigTigger** · 09-14-13 10:10

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

And every day how many more thousands of women join these sites looking for a man to fuck them and to treat them with a little respect, understanding, generosity and fun.

Lets pick that fruit. Put pick carefully and don't bruise them.

Revvo

I wholeheartedly agree. I've been amazed at the quality of good women out here in the suga world. Now I will dip below the 8s and 9s every now and then but usually they turn out to be great in bed. This is why I didn't understand Nostra who just wants to get in the GPS pants, but "hey" to each his own. I've literally been trying to scale back because my life is busier and I have a hard time saying "no". I've always been only willing to go up to about $.5 per meeting, but in many cases. Once the chemistry is there and you are giving them multiple ogasms, the money becomes less of an issue.

-Update.

MsLilMama just loves to screw. Whether it's short or long, hotel or couch, she just loves it. We've had sex each time we've met. She has never asked for a dime and is very content with whatever I give. She texts often and if she had bigger boobs, I've give her 10 body. Here personality is so cool that I'm slowly (very slowly) moving away from others. She has her own place and I can come by any day. She's willing to take off work to hang out, willing to travel. Too good to be true in some cases. But she just wanted to be treated with respect, helped a little here and there and have some good sex.

Met a POT yesterday. Her pics showed her as curvy, but in person she had a lot of extra extra weight going on. Even she had a little GPS syndrome going on. I'm going to pass on that one.

I've been working on this other spinner in Virginia. She's 25 with a cute face. I was a little disappointed with how skinny she was, absolutely no butt at all. But she had these big boobs on such a small frame. We've yet to get to a hotel as the schedules have not allowed, but I was able to get some backseat time in last night. She let me lick all over the goodies and I think she even came once. She has a good look, but she hit me with the "I'm going to get you sucka" surprise. She had inserts for her boobs, big inserts. She is barely an A-cup. Now mind you, I sucked on them and licked that kitty until the juices flowed, but as I drove home I was really bothered. She's not asking for much either, just whatever I give. She's very chatty and I get oodles of credit for listening. I'm probably going to hit it once or twice and see if she's a good screw. I was just so disappointed, I was really looking forward to sucking on those big boobies. Ugh! I may keep her for emergency use. However MsLilMama is probably going to take most of my free time.

I have a 22 year old college-coed with a certified big booty. We are supposed to be meeting Sunday. I'm hanging out with MsLilMama, but she's on her period, so we'll have dinner and movie, then I'm debating if I'll take the other one to the hotel and end my evening with a bang. She's going to cost me $.5.

MsCoolSlim is still texting and emailing daily. I've got to get up to her next week one way or another. She closed her account and as pretty as she is, she gets plenty of attention. She's not had any in a long time, so I really need to close the deal. I'm the only SB opportunity she's allowing, so I feel like I need to leave her a lasting impression.

I'm supposed to have a meeting for a few hours with MsSuccessful on Monday night. This is a booty call request from her. She has the room and just wants me to stop by and work her over. What a deal! This will not require any funds from me.

Oops, I almost forgot. So an old SB of mine who I dumped because she was too much emotional baggage hit me up needing help. She asked if we could meet one more time for $$$.5. I was a little taken aback as the last time we talked, she was like we can meet as friends but no more sex involved. So I figured she must be in a big need. I responded and told her that for $$$.5 we'll have to meet at least 3 times. She agreed. I told her I'd let her know when I can meet the first time. She was a little bigger than I like, but she was very shapely and the sex was awesome. We'll see how it goes.

Finally had my meeting with the SB from SC that I've been chatting with for months. She's inexperienced and wanted to get out of her conservative lifestyle for once. So we met at the hotel. Since I knew she would be nervous, I had small gifts, but I had her bring, lingerie, high heels, slow dance music, massage oil and bath oil. On the way to meet her, I picked up some lingerie from one of those "adult toy stores". We had a good evening, I really spoiled her as much as possible. She had never been given oral before and that was probably my biggest motivation. OMG...she came in about 2 minutes the first time I started licking her...it was awesome. She's had only a few men so she didn't know she could have more than one orgasm. By the time the overnight date was done, she had 6 to 7 orgasms (oral twice, penetration 2 to 3 times and me fingering her once). She was soooo happy the next day, she raved and raved for at least 2 day. She had car problems and other issues on the way back, but didn't care. Unfortunately with her lack of experience I only took the compliments so much. But to see her having those orgams and hear her sounds of pleasure for me it was worth it. Funny thing is,, the sex itself wasn't all that good, but it was fun none the less. Total cost was supplies and gas $.5, I had a room anyway for my trip ( I upgraded to a jacuzzi room). She's a little bigger than I like, cute, big boobs and just a great personality. 8/6.5/9/2 (face/body/personality/skills).

BT

**BigTigger** · 09-14-13 09:43

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

I agree that this is a lost cause, and nothing good will come of it. Move on to the next, Nostra. There will be many, many more in your future, and you need to accept that frustration and lost opportunities are part of the game. If you've read the Journal, you know that these babies often throw out a high number just to see what might happen, but it seems to me that your back-and-forth has degraded to the point of non-salvageable. Pull her profile up on your laptop and take care of things yourself, if you catch my drift. It will be waaay cheaper, and just as "personal".

Tigg, I never figured you for a fuck-and-duck kind of guy LOL! Were you just trying to suggest that he teach this baby a lesson?

Be proud,

Scott

Oh, I'd never do it, but he said he just wanted to get into her pants. He did not seem to want a SB relationship or anything of that sorts. So if the goal is just to get GPS booty at reasonable rates, this might be a valuable option. So I wanted to give him an option of getting the goodies at the price he wants. It's not my thing, but who am I to judge others.

BT

**Revvo** · 09-14-13 08:51

Originally Posted by WoodSlinger [View Original Post]

Latest revision to ad has netted me 6 genuine replies this week. Two I tossed immediately as being below the 8 or 9's I like to work on. 2 more in the pipeline including a demure waify looking hippie chick with. Glasses!

This one is setup for a meet and greet later today.

Her response. Hi honey. I'm Ashley 24f. 5'2 115lbs. Blonde hair blue eyes. I live in downtown st pete. I'm very easy going and open minded. & I will always make you feel comfortable. I'm looking for work right now and sure could use some help. And in return I will rock your world. You just tell me what it is you like. Text meatXXX-XXXX.

This is a gem, her pics are hot, I rate her a solid 9. Hopefully I can get her to the FC, which in this case is her place. She claims to live alone in a nice gated apt community downtown. Wants help with her Electric Bill.

Wish me luck!

Dude tell us what happened. How did the M&G go? Was she nice looking in person? How much on the sugar?

How about some tips on your ad?

Revvo

**Copper Fool** · 09-13-13 23:10

Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]

After my incident below. I am considering a stealth vasectomy. I understand there is a no scalpel vasectomy that does not even leave an incision. It is very low impact and only leaves a small puncture. Plus a small shave area on the balls. Then there is a two week no sex period I believe.

I think I could get away with it. The only way I see to get caught is possibly if I get complications which are very low in probability.

Any thoughts?

Anyone ever go this route?

Successes or failures?

You might want to try something like a fake urinary tract infections or if you ride bicycle an injury caused by the top bar might work really good.

**HollywoodGuy** · 09-13-13 21:29

Originally Posted by WoodSlinger [View Original Post]

Latest revision to ad has netted me 6 genuine replies this week. Two I tossed immediately as being below the 8 or 9's I like to work on. 2 more in the pipeline including a demure waify looking hippie chick with. Glasses!

This one is setup for a meet and greet later today.

Her response. Hi honey. I'm Ashley 24f. 5'2 115lbs. Blonde hair blue eyes. I live in downtown st pete. I'm very easy going and open minded. & I will always make you feel comfortable. I'm looking for work right now and sure could use some help. And in return I will rock your world. You just tell me what it is you like. Text meatXXX-XXXX.

This is a gem, her pics are hot, I rate her a solid 9. Hopefully I can get her to the FC, which in this case is her place. She claims to live alone in a nice gated apt community downtown. Wants help with her Electric Bill.

Wish me luck!

Getting her there should be a slam dunk based on her reply. It will all come down to the $$$. Did you already quote her upfront.

**Member #5570** · 09-13-13 18:59

http://www.dailyfinance.com/2013/09/...cmp=latestnews

Does this guy ever heard of SA or SD4M? With the money he's got, he could bang 10 different SBs of the highest quality everyday. What a shame!

**Member #5570** · 09-13-13 14:20

Originally Posted by WoodSlinger [View Original Post]

Latest revision to ad has netted me 6 genuine replies this week. Two I tossed immediately as being below the 8 or 9's I like to work on. 2 more in the pipeline including a demure waify looking hippie chick with. Glasses!

This one is setup for a meet and greet later today.

Her response. Hi honey. I'm Ashley 24f. 5'2 115lbs. Blonde hair blue eyes. I live in downtown st pete. I'm very easy going and open minded. & I will always make you feel comfortable. I'm looking for work right now and sure could use some help. And in return I will rock your world. You just tell me what it is you like. Text meatXXX-XXXX.

This is a gem, her pics are hot, I rate her a solid 9. Hopefully I can get her to the FC, which in this case is her place. She claims to live alone in a nice gated apt community downtown. Wants help with her Electric Bill.

Wish me luck!

OK bud, you got to share with us your ads. I am in the Northeast, so I won't be fishing in your waters. Pm me if you prefer.